I am tired of "It's an alpha" and "It's a first iteration", we are in year 10 and it will be the same first iteration 2-3 years from now. Other players having full access to my console is not acceptable. *You can even re-set spawn locations of other players or click on "pay fines" when a player is standing at his console.*
I mean, on the one hand I agree; like many other loops lacking polish this one is one that jerks can make use of that I just rather not have be a thing... on the other hand that will always be the case & dealing with stuff via realistic control measures beats suspend-your-disbelief-restrictions much of the time... Like, If the game had "full realism" the enemy could even use your limp finger to operate the console if it were fingerprint locked- ...so for the specific of consoles we could have a pin or such to change respawn points or big medical decisions etc.. right?... but what is more broadly missing is more serious consequences or barriers for various offenses.. --but that's a single facet of the general need to improve the game's law system to actaully deter certain types of game plays in certain zones without unduly burdening the players who'd need to step outside the game's "laws" to stop actions that don't trigger crimestat but are clearly detrimental to others and lack appropriate mechanics to counter or address beyond in-game violence and subjecting the would-be victim to a crimestat, or just letting the jerk do it. I've seen a few situations like this in principle ingame already, but its pretty glaring to imagine seeing/hearing "unfriendly" players without crimestat messing with your buddys spawn point and laughing out loud about it in local comms, & know you get to choose between getting a crimestat to try n stop them & yourself becoming a criminal (& Having to do more criminal acts to hack away the stat or serve a sentence for it.)... or just watching powerless to intervene meaningfully..
G CIG knows how to do it. If a player is for example at a console to buy medical equipment, you have no access to this console. Why should another player be able to reset my spawn location, click on pay fees on my console or drug me?
No no no, you don't understand. CIG is going where no one has gone! Inventory tech is stellar, it's a pioneering tech! So much tech CIG need to do for the first time that no one has yet done! Physics? No one has done too! It's marvelous! /s
Yes, there is a plan for other players to administer drugs to patients for medical roleplay. This is fine. The issue here is that other players can use the console above the player's head (which is odd), and also shoulder surf any of the other medical consoles with full permissions. At the top of the console it lists patient and operator, but when shoulder surfing the operator is given as the patient - you won't know who is clearing your respawn point or drugging you. If you want to find other players, just wait in a respawn room, one will turn up after a while. At least it gives you something to do when people bed-block at events.
This is why the medical system needs a consent system, similar to Star Wars Galaxies. Which would prevent such things as the medgun battles inside safe zones.
I actually think it's a good thing for other people to be able to access the med console (might be useful for a doctor profession in the future). I see the problem more with people glitching through the door/wall in a hospital.
FearAngryTrees if there is something like doctor profession and they need access to the console maybe. Other players having full access to the console, they can drug me, kill me and even re-set spawn location is just terrible, though.
I kinda like this idea... Now when you board a Carrack and kill the pilot, you have the choice of kill them repeatedly, reset their spawn so they don't come back on the ship, or just drug them into being so useless they're no longer a threat.
What I found pretty strange (also annoying AF) was that during the JT event, some Orgs that we or I were up against managed to prohibit respawns at the nearest station to the drug lab. So Grim Hex if the lab was on Yela, for instance. If I died, it would simply print a message on the screen that all med bays are occupied, I'm number 3 (or whatever) in cue and that was that. This status wouldn't change even after waiting half an hour. The only thing to do was to go back to the menu, hop servers, then join back in with my mates and immediately relocate the regeneration point. All in all, this cost so much time that whatever Org or group of players was abusing the med-bay system could make bank down on the moon totally undistracted and could have probably left the rifles at home. (because every step of the way is a time sink in Star Citizen, even the most mundane routines are designed for retired people who go feed the ducks at a near park in between in-game chores) I wonder how they did that, though. I can't believe they had 3 or 4 guys just laying around in med beds watching Netflix while the others were busy making millions of credits. Multiboxing comes to mind, and that's the only explanation I could come up with up until now. Any ideas? In this special case, however, it would have been handy to know about the issue this video is about if only to fuck with these spawn campers and waste a bit of their time too as they did with ours.
AncoGaming they glitched into the spawn rooms using emotes like /dance2 and then occupied the beds. It sucks and is bad sportsmanship. However, it also shows how terrible CIG's systems in year 10 still are, exploits all over the place.
I'm pretty sure Grim Hex medical area was bugged for the entirety of Jump Town. I've not been able to spawn there since about 3.15.1 I think. The smart move would have been to set spawn at CRU-L1, but I was personally too lazy to fly all that way and opted just to keep relogging to a different server and then back again.
@@Camural Haha! There is no sportsmanship in online gaming, never has been. If there was, the majority of players wouldn't chase some arbitrary Meta just to get a slight advancement over n00bs and the uninformed. They'd put in the work and training to git gud instead, alas, this is too much to ask for and seasoned devs know this. Therefore, a good balance pass is one that forces players to actually learn a game's mechanics and good game design allows them to build up proficiency over time with experience. Not so with Star Citizen, where decisions about buffs and nerfs are made during business meetings of the sales team as it seems and get thrown on top of inherently broken core gameplay systems so any changes have their impact multiplied if they don't spiral out of control right off the bat. Besides the fact that corporate greed is calling the shots when it comes to "balance", "gameplay" and design decisions, the other problem is that the higher-ups at CIG, for the most part, have never played any MMO or competitive multiplayer game whatsoever, let alone have they ever made one. You can see at every step of the way that they have no idea of what they're doing and heavily rely on collecting data and feedback from the playerbase to tidy up the mess they've made. If they can be arsed to do so, that is, which only happens when there isn't any sales event taking place that takes top priority every time, all the time. CIG is the equivalent of a rich kid dabbling in moody business ideas thanks to Daddy's money without the slightest clue of any matter at hand and no intention of putting in actual work because no one gives a shit if their ventures tank or turn out to be a pipe dream. They'll still be rich nonetheless. The only difference is that, as far as CIG is concerned, it's our fucking money going down the drain.
@@derptyderp5287 CRU L1 is where I live now. I've carried over all the stuff from Hex even though that means I have to circumnavigate a gas giant now before doing bounty missions. It's still less cumbersome than dealing with all the ass-hats that dwell within Green Imperial's area of not giving a shit. I'll handle them once they appear in my mission menu but I decide when or if. Other than that, my main point of origin is ArcCorp because there I get all the parts, weapons, armor, ammo etc. I need to restock once they decide to disappear from the server database due to package loss, latency or whatever and it's handy to have the main local inventory right there at the shopping mall. Things appear there from time to time out of nowhere that I didn't even know I was missing, lol. So I can recommend this combination of spawn point and point of origin as of now. For some twisted game design reasons and the joy of having the option to ignore the general server population whenever I feel like it makes this combination less of a pain in the ass than spawn point at Hex, point of origin at Orison with your main local inventory accessible from Port Olisar. If you had told me that only 4 weeks ago, I wouldn't have believed it myself. :D
I think they should keep access for the concole to others. As if you where not in shape youself to operat it, they could. But this is far in the future. The machine should be smart enougth to not be able to kill its patient's. At least without anyone hacking it. As a safty feature.
Noipr0x it is far worse, other players can reset your spawn location, can click on pay fees etc when another player is standing at a console. This makes no sense and shows CIG hasn't thought anything through yet.
I spawned into a bed that already had someone there, that was the first thing I did i was overdose them 🤣 they would go down to 1% health then the bed would regen them back to 100%. You can't help but do it when your put in that situation lmao
I guess I can understand your problems with this, but I honestly think with some modifications, CIG could ship this as a feature. Add some sort of "biometric verification" so that other players can't do certain things since they are not you. however, they could just add a little hacking chip slot on the side of the screen so that a player could feasibly hack their way past this verification, and administer high levels of drugs or change your regeneration location. It goes without saying that this would be a criminal offense, and the security guards in stations would come hunt the hacker down. (I acknowledge that spawn closets are not a thing in stations right now)
What is meant by "glitching into your room"? If they are already inside your ship, you cannot expect any room to be locked and inaccessible. What am I missing?
This seems more realistic, if you can use the console then it would only make sense that others can as well. It's no different from some one coming over while you're on your computer and they start hitting buttons, it's rude and annoying but not impossible. Now the clipping corpses in the same bed seem to be of more importance.
ShadowByNine other players can reset your spawn location, can click on pay fees etc when another player is standing at a console. You cannot access a trading console when someone else is buying for example medical equipment.
Aeases yes other players can even re-est your spawn location. I am tired of "It's an alpha" and "It's a first iteration", we are in year 10 an it will be the same sh!tty first iteration 2-3 years from now. Other players having full access to my console is not acceptable.
I've had NPC's walk in on me during healing with the med bed on an 890 mission before. Freaked me out cause I wasn't sure if they would be bastards like human players and just camp my body. They left in a hurry ,which was even stranger. Fun trick knock out a load of npc pirates then leave the ship and jump away then jump back board the ship again, the disarmed AI surrender to you ...then kill themselves.
