[3.20] Top 12 Most OP Builds in Path of Exile History (Old Version)

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I was recently thinking about the direction of power creep in Path of Exile and was wondering if GGG is actually slowing down the game as some people claim. This lead me to think about all historically OP builds and rate them on how strong they were before nerfs. It seems like many of these builds are actually recent creations thus, I have come to the conclusion that POE is actually not being slowed down. Many people remember the days of running strand in less than a minute with various Headhunter builds, but looking back, these maps had very little mob density compared to now, the maps had easy modifiers (no delirium and other league mechanics), and if the builds didn't have HH buffs, they were very squishy and couldn't kill endgame bosses reliably.
Power Creep:
Hateforge - 3.14
Mageblood - 3.16
Squire - 3.16
Eldritch Crafting - 3.17
Maximum Resistance on Shields - 3.17
Omniscience - 3.17
Forbidden Flesh/Flame - 3.17
Melding of the Flesh - 3.17 (Nerfed)
Impossible Escape - 3.18
Recombinators - 3.18 (Removed)
Kalandra's Touch - 3.19
Oriath's End - 3.20
Progenesis - 3.20
Anathema - 3.20
Original Sin - 3.20
Top 12 Builds:
12. Cyclone - • [3.7] Cyclone VS 5 Emb...
11. Hateforge Vaal Ground Slam - • Hateforge Vaal Ground ...
10. Spellslinger Essence Drain - • [PATH OF EXILE] - 3.11...
9. Mana Storm Brand - • 200 Million DPS Storm ...
8. Accuracy Stack Bow - • [PATH OF EXILE | 3.13]...
7. Ward Loop - • [POE 3.18] CWDT Scion ...
6. 12L Str Venom Gyre - • [PoE 3.17] Venom Gyre ...
5. Elementalist Ignite - • Path of Exile - Ignite...
4. Vaal Spark or Vaal Storm Call - • [3.4] Vaal Spark: Path...
3. 12L Int Wander - • [PoE 3.18] Turning Squ...
2. Spark Aura Stack - • [PoE 3.11] Aura Stacki...
1. Purposeful Harbinger Wander - • [PoE] Stream Highlight...
Viewer Commented Builds I Forgot About:
Lightning Arrow Frostwall (Probably Top 12 Build)
Arc Traps + Lightning Spire
Mana Miner Ball Lightning/Arc
Armour Stacking Transcendence Lightning Strike
Insta Leech HOWA Spectral Throw
Music - • Path Of Exile - full s...
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@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Read the description for more information. Sorry for some of the clip quality. POE has historically had very bad performance during juiced content being one shot by these various OP builds, thus lots of lag could not be avoided. In the past few patches, GGG has addressed this with loot changes and some graphical improvements. Additionally, after viewer feedback in this comment section and the new release of Original Sin since the publishing of this video, I created an updated video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4fcYuMw3s48.html

@こよロボ Год назад

where is double dip poison build ? in version 2.0 ~ and where is all dmg immune build ? these build are not only nerfed, they changed some of poe system

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

@@こよロボ Ramping up poison stacks is worse than just killing bosses in sub 5 seconds. Immune builds aren't build in my opinion, they are just broken interactions GGG overlooked, and the immortality doesn't kill mobs, other skills kill mobs.

@lautarocapezio2590 Год назад

What about LL volatile dead, it was from one league before betrayal

@Sanctifiers Год назад

Honestly you can build Carrions to get around a total of 80 million dps. Somewhat expensive but doesn't even cost 100 divines. Give or take.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

@@Sanctifiers Minion builds never lack damage. They typically lack defense and regen.

@V___X Год назад

For #8, accuracy stacking ballistas had a rather substantial nerf of losing 30% accuracy if you haven't killed recently on abyss jewels. It was by far the largest scaler of accuracy for the build.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

The list incorporates overall performance, so this mod wouldn't do anything in mapping. Plus, since release of build, they added 6 mod abyss jewels, which I haven't seen any video min max a build with yet.

@cacahca56 Год назад

and you can buy them on standard too!

@jonekfv7944 Год назад

@@Path_of_Chigurh it would, since it's not you killing but the ballistas. Unless you are running around culling white mobs with frenzy or something then you still get the "if you haven't killed recently" bonuses. Same thing goes for ele pen boot enchant and traps for example

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

@@jonekfv7944 I showcased mainly the self attack tornado shot variant since ballista is just overkill single target, but added it in just so show the potential.

@Okcettefoiscbon Год назад

I for SURE was certain you would include Zerphi's Last breath + Volatile dead. It' was the most broken combo in the entire game. DPS out of this world, especially if you could pre-cast for bosses and ULTRA tanky. People used to "darkness farm" delve with it since it could outregen almost any amount of stacks of darkness debuff. Good days.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

People have said this build and I remember it being good. Yes it is a strong build, mainly because tanky. But the DMG wasn't insane and map clear wasn't great. Unless you can provide the name of a video of a good version of the build. No links.

@elantonelle Год назад

Nah, the only broken thing was the defences

@SuperRahimie Год назад

you can darkness farm delve right now with INQ RF doenst mean its broken

@gabrielguimaraes1577 5 месяцев назад

@@elantonelle”the only broken thing was the defenses”, if you are a softcore player its not important, to a hc player its the most important

@ruckus7554 Год назад

Great video. I had the #5 Discharge Elementalist. Popped whole screens and melted all the Ubers in a few hits. Nice to see it's still viable.

@KuuYami_ Год назад

I miss herald stacker :c I played CoC Guardian in 3.10. Literally just precision aura capped my accuracy and crit rate. It was so dope.

@youqqwheniq8502 Год назад

Does anyone remember VD Body Swap with the old Zerphis flask?

@antoniosalinas8178 Год назад

or lightning warp/arc

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

This has been said by a lot of people, but if you look back, sure it was the tankiest thing at the time, but its bossing was kinda slow (not killing bosses in seconds) and mapping was even slower.

@SearedBite Год назад

i remember playing old ea with zerphi's i think that was the most op build i ever played. if you don't get 1 hit, on a build with 8k life, you simply cannot die. also was hilarious to play pvp and just afk with right click held down

@m1xxx3r Год назад

Zerphi at it's time was basically in concept what modern Wardloop is, " if you're not one-shoted then you're basically immortal"

@Percyway Год назад

Cast on Crit Discharge Assassin from Perandus league was really strong too

@MyNameIsSalo Год назад

For the investment required to make CoC builds work in the past, they always underperformed other setups. They were just hella fun to play

@ELscid Год назад

auto bomber cleared faster and molten strike did more damage at the time discharge was good

@FangedLion 7 месяцев назад

@@ELscidMolten strike was nowhere near coc discharge single target and autobomber had difficulties in higher tiers especially survivability wise. Elementalist coc discharge would be better than Assassin aoe wise with pre nerf ele conflux while Assassin would be better damage overall.

@THE_BLOOD_MAN Год назад

do you think cast on death discharge has a place in here? maybe as an honorable mention. It was so strong that there are specific boss damage reduction mechanics in place JUST so that build has a harder time working, but you literally can't map with it

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

I thought about it, but tankiness would be 0, so not making this list.

@Monkkae Год назад

@@Path_of_Chigurh tankiness would be -1, since you are literally killing yourself with flasks :D

@goldenducky12 Год назад

I think Akane's ball lightning/arc miner should be here somewhere. That build was so disgusting back in the glory days of archemage (rip). MoM archemage, perma berserk (alt qualtiy gave lots of spell damage back then), super fast, super tanky, insta phase bosses. If we wanna go back even further, in the old days of double dipping like poison blade flurry, was busted.

@MyNameIsSalo Год назад

Mama storm brand should have just been “archmage *insert lightning skill here*”. Because there was a lot of insane archmage builds

@kahrl4063 Год назад

pretty sure the build never used archmage, at least not when it was most powerful by far (3.13).

@dionje5TV Год назад

What about shroud of the lightless boneshatter? It was infinite damage and immortal as far as I know, but it only lasted 1 league because it was an unintended effect which made it physical immune permanently.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

It took a very long time to ramp up damage, thus in total can't kill bosses in seconds.

@joevanweedler Год назад

I would add the mana stacking scion miner from 3.13ish era. 0.2 second sirus A8 kills, tanky as any build except aura stacker, perma-berserk so map clear was fast but a little clunky (arc mines)

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Yeh. I agreed with a commenter about arc traps when they super buffed arc, so this build would be a similar playstyle and strength.

@SearedBite Год назад

Ci vaal pact howa. 10k+ es with instant leech CoC cospri's discharge 2x Poet's pen volatile dead with vitality watcher's eye (insta kills bosses and is incredibly tanky) Wand builds pre 3.0 were insane. also 3.0 had vaal power siphon (which was only good for clear though, unlike previous wand builds) whichever league the elder first came out in, there were so many items that had phys as extra elemental, everyone just played bv elementalist with insane proliferation and 1 shot everything on screen clearing maps insantly

@jackxlifer6346 Год назад

Vaal Immortal Call(pre-nerf) + soul ripper + pathfinder/(charge generation). Allowed to be immune to (!!!)ANY damage with (!!!)100% uptime. It was used for searching of fractured walls in delve without spending sulphite for cart. Or standing in Sirus cloud with 1HP and 0 ES. Nerfed in 3.16

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Yep. I didn't add this because its kinda cheating. Obvious oversite by GGG. Kinda lame in the longer term to just be actually unkillable.

@Sh00peh Год назад

Not in the top ten. But back when Voltaxic rift first came out, you could stand in the entrance portal of a canyon map and kill the bosses with poison spark. Nerfed obviously, but it was the most fun I ever had playing this game.

@FangedLion 7 месяцев назад

Voltaxic Rift had existed for a while before Voltaxic Rift Spark became a thing. It was Spark receiving a huge buff that made people want to do it. It still sucked massively compared to regular Spark with pre-nerf Vinktar’s, though.

@NeloGTz Год назад

Venom gyre / any str stacker are playable at 150% power in 3.20 with relic and original Sin ring

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Agree. The video was made before sin ring came out.

@lakie92 Год назад

Uber dans scion elemental hit in incursion, running around with 10k life, insane overleech from slayer, and bosses would phase in less than a second. Bow weapon swap made it god tier for mapping and bossing with gems swapping out.

@limweihongeducation2529 Год назад

i remember the #10 essence drain spell slinger. the Spell slinger mana nerf bricked my build in standard. it was the fastest mapper in delirium league i ever had the chance of playing

@inquirusinq6060 Год назад

Some notes about #0 : It would be 3.10 spell aurastacker. Wander could achieve like 100m dps, but spell version could have probably billions of damage especially before "aura buff" nerfs. Herald stacker had 700% effect of auras and that actually applied to Tailwind and some other "aura buffs" like Aspects. This thing would one-shot uber bosses with one little spark i think. And it also had: 90% all res 90% phys damage reduction 2k+ es regen 12k+ es 400% ms without vaal haste And more, much more broken and overpowered interactions that were too beauteful to exist

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Agree, but you don't need more than 100m dps if the bosses have 100m hp.

@1604MafiaBest Год назад

@@Path_of_Chigurh u need, if u go delve

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

@@1604MafiaBest This isn't a delve tier list.

@1604MafiaBest Год назад

@@Path_of_Chigurh yes, it's isn't but for my experience, it was only one build which can farm 6k +old delve and any content in game

@michisauer Год назад

You also missed 3.15 forbidden rite totems. Absolutely insane when scaling totem hp and chaos-damage.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Thought about it. It has insane boss damage but IDK about top 12 when you factor the sub par clear speed compared to these builds and tankiness.

@cuakman Год назад

Does Snapshot builds count? I remember RF Spectres back in the days 0.01 bosses lol. Also power siphon snapshot auras. Lightning arrow frostwall, groundslam impale, early self chill build with trinity. So many broken things...

@LifeForAiur Год назад

Very interesting and well made video, however there are many inaccuracies- especially in the rating of each build for boss dps, map clear, and tankiness. For example, ignite elementalist should not have a 9/10 tankiness given the lack of defenses provided by the ascendancy. Next, I think a mention of seismic trap is necessary. That skill has dominated the gauntlet for a while now. I think mentions of certain double dipping builds (back when double dipping was a thing) is important as that mechanic gave some really insane numbers back in Breach. Snapshotting zombies should probably be an honorable mention. There are a couple of other historical builds that defined the meta for their era. You are 100% correct on the power creep of course. And considering only the most OP builds on an absolute scale (not relative for their era) reveals that power creep PoE has went to.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

I put Ignite Elementalist at a 9/10 because these builds are rated based on multiple mirror budget, thus they would have mageblood thus 50k armour/50k evasion. Ignite doesn't scale well with auras, thus all defensives are run. Also, since it is a dot build. You can just ignite the target and spend all your time dodging, thus "tankier". I could have lowered to 8 I guess.

@FangedLion 7 месяцев назад

@@Path_of_ChigurhIf multiple mirror budget then this whole list should be Kinetic Blast or Tornado Shot with mirrored wands and bows.

@Paperclip_Tank Год назад

Poison bladefall mines were probably the most OP, they got to tripple dip and did a few billion dps each.

@deleno7290 Год назад

definitely missed pre-3.15 indigon pathfinder builds. boss dps: up to 9/10 (tough to push past 100 mill) map clear: 10/10 (natural 350%+ movespeed, explode scaling, BV or CoC, infinite flasks) Tankiness: 9/10 (5k+ life with 3k+ mana @40%+ MOM; almost Infinite recovery so it's impossible to die to degens, lots of damage mitigation with old wise oak and taste of hate scaled with flask effect) the build was truly insane for all round gameplay. it's clear rivals the best BV/Explodey builds, can choose either coc ice nova/ice spear, BV, or BF/BB spellcast cwdt loop. you can facetank 99% of the game except for giant one shot slams. super smooth. build is playable pretty much only in standard, and the only version you can play (even in standard) is BV. All the other versions cost too much mana after the trigger spell mana cost nerf in 3.15, and self casting a rapid fire spell like EK costs too much too, so only BV is viable. I have a vid on my channel of clearing all content in 3.16 on indigon BV. The build got a near 100% MORE damage buff post 3.17 - we got easy crit cap with hatred sublime vision, BV got 50% more base damage, and a few other buffs here and there. again only in standard but the build def deserves to be here.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Yeh. #9 is an indigon mana stacking build that I thought was the best of the mana architypes since storm brand got nerfed into the ground after this point since it was so strong. I agree mana pathfinder was also strong with various skill, but I felt I had to pick one.

@filipe5201 Год назад

do you have a updated pob?

@deleno7290 Год назад

@@filipe5201 if you're in standard, it's pretty much the same. I'll try and get an up to date pob for you but nothing much has changed other than slightly better weapons and fitting in sublime vision with hatred mod.

@bobbysnobby Год назад

Missed possibly the strongest build in poe history Discharge totems. Used to be they would snapshot your charges but not spend them so they would chain gun like 22 charge discharges incredibly fast.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Yes, could be one of the strongest bosses build ever, but for mapping, the build is slow, discharge AOE was way worse than it is now, and the build was squishy.

@201214011 Год назад

how could you forget bv herald stackers? and vaal rf abberath hooves? divine ire ignite? incinerate shotgunning? mjolnier discharge? hello?

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

There are better builds.

@Drails Год назад

hateforge ballistas were a thing for a few days before the hotfix deletion in 3.14

@sandguyman Год назад

Ignite elementalist is unnerfed? Didnt ggg gut ignite dps a couple leagues back to compensate for skill buffs?

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

No. They nerfed ignite "equivalent" to the gem buffs during the same patch. Thus net 0 change.

@joaopc94 Год назад

There's this gigachad guy who makes a one-hit doryanis prototype+touch jugger almost every league for some 6 leagues now. His build is the epytome of convoluted, but i tryed to recreate it and my budget version was basically unkillable + it one shotted almost everything short of 110% Guardian map bosses. I can't recall his name for my life, but If you search poe ninja for juggernauts using the doryanis touch skill you're sure to find him.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Yeh. A similar thing can be done with ice crash.

@ProKillTk Год назад

Blight/Bane flaskfinder with the divergent berserk and indigon was possibly the strongest build I've played in my 9 years of playing poe. The clips would be hard to find, but I've never played tankier and faster build than that.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Bane has always been really good on clear, but chaos over time has never been OP vs bosses.

@ismaelgonzalezvazquez8407 Год назад

Mana miner ascendant in ritual was busted, using same tech he mention and more, incredibly tanky, quite fast mapper for a miner with divergent berserk and old chainbreaker keystone, and amazing bosser

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

@@ismaelgonzalezvazquez8407 Agree, I already added mana miner to list of viewer comments.

@matijaklasan5102 Год назад

coc fr with recombinators has to be up there as well right?

@dami050 Год назад

W8 where is herald stacker from delirium?

@ichmagbratwurst4999 Год назад

Literally #1

@redwood1542 Год назад

#1/#2 are pretty close to the same build imo - stack legacy aura clusters and be your own aura bot. But honestly missing so much stuff here... Personally I think VMS arguably the most ridiculous build I remember. Use any movement skill for clear and had theoretically infinite single target damage w/ "The Rat Cage" (since fixed)

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

VMS clear for mapping is at best 3/10. That why didn't make the list. You have to charge 4-5x per screen to clear it and beyond spawns behind it when charging around. #1 and #2 are similiar, sure, but purposeful harbinger was only in the game for 1 patch vs auras were for many patches.

@phusonhuynh9912 Год назад

Self curse boneshatter. It's weird because there were like three variant of that build: delver, mapper, bosser. And none of them can combine together lol. So obviously cannot take a place in the hall of fame, but wanna mention a build that has such a weirdest way to invest ever.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Agree

@greetingstraveler9774 Год назад

where is VD pathfinder? it was an immortal build

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

This has been said by a lot of people, but if you look back, sure it was the tankiest thing at the time, but its bossing was kinda slow (not killing bosses in seconds) and mapping was even slower.

@fuyou5183 Год назад

Ok, so Inquisitor Cyclone CoC Purifying flame (phantasmal) int+str stacker Throught following gear and gems: Enegy baldes -> Battlemage -> Ivory tower (full hp reservation) -> Elixir(unique ruby flask against chaos damade insta kills) -> Shapers touch -> Inspired learning (x2) -> Eyes of the greatwolf(attributes+crit multy) -> Aegis Aurora -> Crown of inward eye -> Replica stampede and most importantly: Traitor node (timless jewel Brutal restraint {variant Balbala})

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Yeh, I have played a version of this build. It is good, but not top 12 builds good.

@azazeeel5043 Год назад

2 (or 3? Man time flies) leagues back we had Tankiness 100/10 on any of the various unkillable leech builds.

@rdubyeah Год назад

Saw this video and came looking to see if my deadeye would make this list. It utilized a bug in Replica Soul Strike to work but I can't think of many other builds that took literal 0 damage. Was patched out before end of league though, so that's probably a big reason why. Super shocked to not see shroud of the lightless boneshatter jugg on here either. And hateforge VLS is a better hateforge entry than Slams imo.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

I agree for bossing or invitation farming VLS was better, but overall, 100 radius Slam is too OP IMO.

@8redbeat4 Год назад

Immortal boneshatter slayer 12 link accuracy stacker berserker with KB CoC MOM Ice spear (ascendant or pathfinder) CoC FR in sentinel league

@klerkusmaximus Год назад

From my history horizon: - Rain of Arrows/Split Arrow Lioneye's Glare 1k Life Kaoms - Soul Taker Melee Builds (especially with Aegis Aurora, and maybe Bringer of Rain (bossing at that time would be 8/10 tankiness 11/10) - optimized low life builds Spork Totems or more broken LL Spectral Throw with Crown of Eyes RF interactions would be 10/10 at mapping and bossing but more like 6 to 8 at tankiness due to massive dps (some got integer overflow on screen back then). - LL Discharge (mapping 7 to 8/10, bossing */10 were able to one shot bosses and its time and state of the game, tankiness 7 to 8/10 or optimized 10/10) - memories after it are not really chronical and might be unsorted - Chaos Sporker with Voltaxic Rift - CoC Assassine - Poison Stacker with Double Dipping - Howa Jugg (Int stacking) Spectral Throw later MS/LS - and probably all others who got already mentioned

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Thank you very much for the list of builds. While I agree many of these builds could kill bosses in a similar time compared to today and die equivalently less, the main issue I have is clear speed of maps. If a 9/10 map clear is full clearing the highest content at the time in around a minute I don't see many of these doing so just because movement was so limited back then. IE: People were mainly weapon swapping to fast weapons to leap slam, which is magnitudes less clear speed than now. *I don't see 1k koams bow build better than any mirror bow build of today. *I don't see a non screen wide clear melee build making the list. *A lot of huge dps totem builds will little tankiness have been available in past. *Current discharge has much larger AOE and probably equivalent damage. *Chaos sparker is probably equivalent to today's alt quality chaos spark, if not worse due to today's higher movement speed. *No cooldown CoC assassin has potential to be a top 12, but I don't see it performing that much better than other builds. Kind of just a vanilla strong DPS build. *Double dip poisons I think is just worse than killing the boss in sub 5 seconds without having to stack poisons. *Howa jugg will prob make the list after multiple mentions in the comments.

@matthughes6964 Год назад

@@Path_of_Chigurh hateforge champion lightning strike

@tshavok Год назад

Missing most of the OP builds pre 3.1. Shatterchuck, Rainbownuke, poison bladefall mines, etc

@IgnistusiaPOE Год назад

Surprised Transcendence Aura Stacking (Heist league 3.12) was not top 1? That build literally was immortal (4m-5m ehp in pob) and had more damage than deli herald/aura stacking. Remember, this is the league with broken numbers on alt quality gems

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

You can only get so immortal. Aura stacker is on the list.

@ELscid Год назад

no elemental hit 1 shot change phase uber elder with tabula rasa?

@Андре-к4с Год назад

My coc es assassin in Metamorf ligue was absolut insane. Immortal, fast and fun Also different variations of golems was good

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Yeh, CoC has been strong in various iterations and ES use to be extremely strong, but I don't put it in the category of OP. Very very good, not OP.

@aryman6589 Год назад

I was thinking of the exact same build. Kami’s 3.9 Glancing Blows Assassin. I farmed Cortex and Sirus (who had just released) nonstop without a single hiccup.

@SoPe_00 Год назад

i remember playing in 2.6 with spectral throw with the old vaal pact, CI and the other notable that i dont remember, that was instant energy shield leech, with the HOWA

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Yeh. HOWA crossed my mind. I think it was one of the best overall builds at the time, but isn't good enough to be historically OP. It just had good balance of defense and dmg. Strong build tho.

@Leon-yg5gm Год назад

@@Path_of_Chigurh Howa not being on the list actually surprises me. It didnt have access to any of the OP shit we have today and could just faceroll all content in the game. damn build was immortal. If influenced items were in the game at the time, it'd definitely make the list.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

@@Leon-yg5gm I added it to honorable mentions.

@silvioantonio6952 Год назад

Cast on crit with explody chests. The thing was out of control, i used to delete screens of mobs, melt bosses. It get so many nerfs i cant remember all, they nerf the spells, they neef Cyclone AOE, they nerf trigger mana cost, they nerf enduring mana flasks (twice). They nerf Cospris malice, they nerf crit chance flasks, mana reservation, defense, multiple assassins nerfs.

@M0th3ater Год назад

Somehow you missed RainbowNuke, the original cospris discharge and Blade Flurry from breach

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

These were some the best builds at the time, but doesn't hold up historically. No screen wide clear. Not great movement speed. Bossing was solid dps, but discharge actually didn't do that much dmg with no cooldown because you couldn't get full charges at 0 cooldown.

@quanghuyo9657 Год назад

spellslinger VD DD Necromancer in Ritual and Ultimatum

@МаксОлейник-л4ь Год назад

I'm missing so much Storm brand mana build. It was so cool. All what they needed to do is just made core items for all this builds cost XXX currency. They are just removing fun part from the game.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Agree. Mana Storm Brand was a very fun and smooth playstyle.

@unholyscream3810 Год назад

great music great video 10/10

@youduntknowmyname Год назад

Remember old vinktars BV days? That shit was op as fuck back then

@man.newton Год назад

Honestly unbelievable that you went for Vaal Ground Slam over Vaal Lightning Strike for the strongest Hateforge build. VLS is the reason Soul Catcher got nerfed, not VGS.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Rocks and walls beat VLS.

@man.newton Год назад

@@Path_of_Chigurh Sure, but VLS could AFK full power HoH feared with all bosses releasing at once

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

@@man.newton Agree. VLS is up there with wardloop and spark on doing invitations.

@man.newton Год назад

@@Path_of_Chigurh Incidentally, it's possible in Sanctum to play VGS at 100% power, but people don't because plenty of builds can clear at that level and boss at that level. If VLS came back, it would probably push spark off of the bossing tier list entirely.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

@@man.newton It's possible to play VGS at 200% power, but not a lot of people want to play melee or have Original Sin.

@EmoWiesel Год назад

The harvest + worm flasks pre 2.5 should be on this list.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Disagree. Even tho worm stuff was strong at the time, I don't think they are historically strong overall builds.

@amaggixz Год назад

I find old Vaal Pact + CI howa builds were OP as fuck, getting that insta leech on ES was beautiful

@CYI3ERPUNK Год назад

7:57 tells you everything you need to know about that build XD

@justinpurcell3717 Год назад

I feel like Valtoxic lightning arrow with 100% chaos conversion (I think that's what it was) should be on here. That build is still probably the most broken build I've ever played imo. It was popular during prophecy, perandus, and so on until it got nerfed into oblivion. So a long time ago lol

@MyNameIsSalo Год назад

With the frost wall yeah, that shit was broken.

@SmellyBadger Год назад

Honestly these builds kinda seems more balanced than what we used to have. Like snapshotting a RF build or play quillrain+COC with no internal cooldown that could nuke all content with a 10c budget.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Quill rain CoC spell vomit I think is just weaker than wardloop builds in comparison. Assuming snapshotting your RF triples your dps, its still RF. Thus it can't clear screen in 1 hit or nuke bosses in seconds.

@henrikswanstrom9218 Год назад

Think the nightblade nerf to Venomgyre was pretty substantial.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Agree. Added that detail to new video in pinned comment.

@ttsooker1 Год назад

mana storm brand is what hurts the most, just a normal build trying to make it through life it did not deserve the amount of nerfs from all sides like that...

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Yeh. A lot of people commenting agreement that storm brand was fun and did dirty by GGG.

@Athreous Год назад

Missed Archmage Arc Trickster/Assassin. One shooting bosses and cleaning maps with massive chain reaction was really awesome. Build is dead, sadly.

@KyokujiFGC Год назад

Yeah, this video basically skips over the entire Archmage era of PoE.

@ichmagbratwurst4999 Год назад

What about the 3.12 Ground Slam + Impaler + Call of Steel Champions. They just set up their warcries and deleted bosses from the game and their Clear was screen wide because Seismic Cry gave like 250% aoe and Fist if war gave another 60%.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

I don't think you can beat vaal ground slam spam with hateforge.

@hiimswiss2930 Год назад

Well done. Only thing I'd ad as an honorable mention would be Phantasmal Cremation Necro. Boss DPS 10/10 Mapping 6/10 Tankiness 10/10 They nerfed the damage by reducing corpse life and Melding of the Flesh so it's at about 70% in 3.20

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

I thought about adding this build. I agree with boss and tankiness, but map clear was just really bad compared to other builds. Maybe would have made honorable mentions.

@Gryphenprey Год назад

@@Path_of_Chigurh it wasn't bad with profane bloom jewels. ;) Good clear speed had mostly to do with investment and player skill imo. Still likely not more than a 7/10 though in speed.

@ahmed-alnoor Год назад

I know you said no temporary buff builds, but self curse builds before the HH nerf was the most broken build in POE history. Reason why i think you should have included it anyway is because temp chain effect buffed made it so that HH buffs would stay active for a very very long time. Im talking up to 10 minutes, also your character would be so large because of size buffs stacking you could only see your feet, most of your character model was outside your screen😂.. not to mention the insane amount of attack speed and move speed. Understandable you didnt include it, since it was a mapping/5way build and could not kill major bosses. Still great video If anyone wants to see what it looked like: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ikafT8ChwyE.htmlsi=_g7p5LRkBv8S3Yqk

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Yeh. I am aware the the interactions, but you can't get HH buffs on boss fights, which is why I didn't include.

@sddulloo Год назад

Notice how most of these build are 3.10 to 3.15 ish. The glory days of poe.😢

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

3.10 was wild but most of the chase uniques that makes these builds strong are 3.16 to present.

@rk-li9ks Год назад

What about the Fakner or OG Mjölner Discharge build? ES leech was instant at that time.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

This is one of the builds that some people look back on with rose tinted goggles. It was strong at the time with being one of the best builds, but not OP IMO.

@FangedLion 7 месяцев назад

@@Path_of_ChigurhWhat held them back? They could clear multiple screens at once with the amount of aoe they had and move faster than pretty much any other build with maxed attack speed Shield Charge/Whirling Blades. They were pretty much immortal back with old Vaal Pact. They could shred basically any boss even on what is effectively a 3l discharge.

@Path_of_Chigurh 7 месяцев назад

@@FangedLion Clear multiple screens at once? You should go back and look how small discharge was back then. Tiny AOE.

@FangedLion 7 месяцев назад

@@Path_of_Chigurh If you built tiny AoE, then you built it wrong. Look at bakedchicken’s elementalist coc discharge. Keep in mind this was with pre nerf ignite prolif as well.

@Path_of_Chigurh 7 месяцев назад

@@FangedLion I watched it. It's tiny. Old discharge didn't scale AOE with more charges = tiny.

@GrupPasoai Год назад

#7 CWDT gem lost more damage multiplier in 3.19 iirc

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

True.

@Roptydeporc Год назад

No blade flurry or double strike ? Could clean over 10screen with explo and 0.01sec each boss. Damn always remember my poor self curse bv and winter orb ( best build the game had to offer ) Carrion golem for free afk boss fight.

@jeremyreplenish Год назад

Where’s cold BV PF from 3.13 😮

@Dandudanable Год назад

Great video, very informative and fun for us people that joined in the later leagues or that only played every other league. I still regret skipping delirium. The aura stacker concept sounds cool as hell and I'm sad that I missed it while it was at its prime.

@elantonelle Год назад

Best build ive ever played hands down

@justshane2805 Год назад

it was BROKENLY good back then so i had to try it, it was so powerful that i was simply bored playing it after a week(50->100ex budget)

@llaime5864 Год назад

literally cost 1 - 2 to start it

@axelhornqvist2812 Год назад

It was piss broken but was also fun because you could invest infinite into it. Was always an upgrade you could get

@cerberus4545 Год назад

@@llaime5864 1 to 2 what

@vladimirzaitsev3614 Год назад

You forget synthesised winter orb with eternal shroud and full shaper items pack

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

I did not forget. It is a very strong build, but not OP.

@AveragePoE_Enjoyer Год назад

I miss burning arrow elementalist, so much fun

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Agree

@princecuddle Год назад

Replica Forbidden shaco flicker has always been an extreme powerhouse.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Flicker isn't great IMO. Fun for fast mapping, but I think other ranged skills are better or melee skills with more AOE.

@NihilisticGoliath Год назад

#7, Ward Loop in 3.20 - will lose the Survival Secrets jewel in 3.20, making it much harder to reach the flask duration needed (still possible) - needing other jewels for the flask duration now makes it even more difficult to get resistances capped - it is also likely that getting the needed 3-4 "To Dust" jewels (since they are becoming corruption-only) is going to be expensive as heck

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Impossible escape to Arrow Dancing is an option for flask duration. Or Anoint something. I'm not a Ward Loop expert, but I think it will be fine. Yes expensive, but this list is based off infinite budget.

@NihilisticGoliath Год назад

@@Path_of_Chigurh Just noting things that people trying to play the build in 3.20+ might have to think about, and compensate for. :) You are right on the anoint; you probably want Replenishing Remedies, going forward.

@panzu5781 Год назад

I played the number 2 spot build (the EK version, it felt smoother) and it was actually crazy, delirium was truly broken lmao.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Yeh, there was a good amount of skills you could use at the time, but it seems like people now have more or less settled on spark for aura stacking with 10L gloves.

@elantonelle Год назад

With proper investment spark fwlt better

@dd2hc Год назад

Where is Old School ts with bugged rigwals quiver most brokken build or insta leech elemental hit

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

I didn't add bugged stuff to list. Insta leech was strong for any build that could use it. Insta leech HOWA spectral throw was prob the best at the time due to offense and defense synergy.

@ber-zer-ker Год назад

Look at old loot explosions and wanna cry.... Смотрю на старый лут дроп и хочется плакать, такую игру запороли

@Menturioxx Год назад

How about scourge int stacking flicker?

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Flicker requires explosions for mapping and other skills can create those explosions better. IE BV or Winter Orb.

@Menturioxx Год назад

@@Path_of_Chigurh ?? What? He was clearing easily without explosion, had huge amount of damage and was near immortal on top of it. Idk if you know about which build do I talk about. It was basicly the strongest build on scourge if it comes to overall possibilities

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

@@Menturioxx Flicker doesn't have screen wide clear, thus worse than other builds that do as I note in the requirements of an OP build.

@cattochi_ Год назад

No way this list doesn't have original EK/Spark Hearld stacker from Delirium. Build was literally unkillable and had like 100M+ dps easily

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Herald stacking is #1 on list. You can pretty much use any skill with it since it just scales flat dmg.

@cattochi_ Год назад

@@Path_of_Chigurh Ah yes I misunderstood the naming of it. I forgot that the node used was called purposeful harbinger. sorry about that

@MyNameIsSalo Год назад

Seen people estimate those builds have 2b+ dps. Obviously exaggerated a bit but nothing in the game has close to enough hp to properly test its damage. Shit was insanely op

@MarianDoruPopa Год назад

Most builds haven't got a direct nerf, but most had indirect nerfs and most come from Harvest crafting and other small changes!

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Agree

@MyNameIsSalo Год назад

Strong disagree with that. Most of these builds had direct nerfs that make the interactions they use much weaker, or impossible. Like the first build isn’t playable, the aura stacker is much weaker than it used to be (70% is very generous, it’s more like 10%, those aura stackers reached billions of dps), Vaal spark isn’t playable, archmage is currently lower dps than just not using it etc etc. It’s almost all been nerfed heavily. Harvest crafting changes is the least of the concerns for these builds. Harvest didn’t even exist for most of the builds on the list. There’s a time and place to bitch about harvest but this isn’t it.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

@@MyNameIsSalo I had aura stacker at 40%. Lets say harvest crafting was a 20-30% nerf across the board and support gem nerf was 20-30% across the board. That's more than specific nerfs to skills besides some outliers skills that have been meta. Like seismic trap or essence drain or lightning spire.

@kyroslangen618 Год назад

I am actually playing wardloop rn with progenesis and petrified blood it is tankier than it has ever been imo

@beetroot3211 Год назад

With the new nimus ring (that causes projectiles to return to you) the dps got doubled lol, particularly in simulacrum

@Arbys626 Год назад

Vaal storm call was my favorite build :( wish they reverted vaal skill changes

@zagato77904 Год назад

Ah, the infamous aura stacker builds. Fun times lol.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Cluster jewel balance team were on something when they made the pre nerf aura clusters.

@MyNameIsSalo Год назад

I love how every build is something super specific like strength stacking venom gyre or whatever the fuck that is, but then you get hit with the “ignite elementalist any skill lol” Which is so true, sure some setups are far superior to others but it’s almost impossible to make an ignite ele build that can’t clear maps smoothly. Literality doesn’t matter what damage type you use, elementalist ignites with everything. That said, this is missing so many actual broken builds like 100% uptime immortal call, or 25k ES Vaal pact builds. Shit that was literality unkillable.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Being unkillable doesn't make the list if you can't kill bosses in a few seconds or have a spammable aoe screen clear as I list at the beginning of video. A lot of the immortal call builds used vaal spark or vaal stormcall, which is on the list.

@ShadeOfSadness Год назад

Mana stack CoC with indigon one of the best builds i ever played, with insane dmg and mitigation, but now its dead 😢

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Yeh. Mana architype was OP.

@ТимурСуворов-ц1м Год назад

CoC Nova got forgotten? This shit is 11/10 map clearing and low budget too

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Disagree. 8-9 Map clear. The frostbolts are slower than just killing them with screen wide AOE or projectiles that travel multiple screens.

@princecuddle Год назад

Mom archmage coc ice nova was a super strong nearly unkillable build. Then they added mana cost to coc spells

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Yeh. There lot of MoM archmage builds that were strong before nerf. Storm brands was prob most OP tho.

@mihailtitov3301 Год назад

in terms of damage, something is generally superfluous, many of the builds in the list simply had normal damage and no more. Potential damage if you put everything into it - it will be different.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Damage =/= Good build

@mihailtitov3301 Год назад

@@Path_of_Chigurh yes, it is only necessary to evaluate it more globally. the game does not end at the stage when you kill the boss in 3 seconds. the build of the empi(wander), for example, the solo target was generally low, as he maven damage was at this horror.

@holyshiet787 Год назад

Cast on Death Discharge Assassin was great for bossing only.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Yeh. 0 Tanky 0 Map clear.

@EpicMidnite Год назад

strongest build i ever played was arc traps. they buffed arc the same league and didn't think of the trap interaction. was insane.

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

True. This is a good one. Very strong clear. I don't remember how single target was compared to other builds.

@EpicMidnite Год назад

@@Path_of_Chigurh was really strong at the time. But the game also had way less bosses. So hard to judge

@Jameshowardadventures Год назад

Pretty much any build in delirium.. those original cluster notables were INSANE. I remember you could get like 14 impale stack or something crazy like that. And the zombie character size, Screen wide zombie slams.. +1 herald of agony cluster jewels were insane. I’d do anything to play delirium league again.

@NycKFetzer Год назад

Infinite vaal lightning strike was great too, too bad there were like, three gloves in the entire game lmao 🤣

@gohan1771 Год назад

lightning strike champion potentially? incredibly fast mapper, bosser, and super tanky

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

I have pre nerfed armour stack LS in pinned comment. I agree should be honorable mention.

@rebirthofshien364 Год назад

There was Black Zenith EoW Totems. Was killed mid-league cause people botted bosses with it

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

There has been many totem builds throughout time that could/can destroy bosses in seconds, but I don't consider just that to be OP so many many many builds can do that.

@corneliussaume5681 Год назад

Zerphis last breath, voletile dead, poets pen, pathfinder

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Volatile dead did cross my mind, but the map clear and tankiness doesn't hold up to these builds. The time it takes the balls to hit the target vs just blowing up the screen is "clunky".

@metropolis10 Год назад

Thanks for this! Wish you were able to mention which were still playable in standard and how much power they lost there with legacy gear. But that would be a big effort to find I think.

@LPZonline Год назад

old mana miners were pretty insane until ggg changed the interaction with mines and indogon

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Miners were god tier at bosses yes, but map clear was ok compared to these builds, and miners really didn't have any defense because they typically just 1 shot things.

@ukdnbmarsh 11 месяцев назад

loving the Witcher music :)

@caspet11 Год назад

could have also added VLS in the same spot as Vaal ground slam, was also crazy good

@Path_of_Chigurh Год назад

Yeh. VLS is pretty clunky tho. Too many rocks and walls in the game, thus ground slam I think is better.

@jayteez6414 Год назад

Hateforge VLS was my number 2 after Delirium aura stacker. Literally did maxed qty Feared runs blind. Mapping was also insane with it and I never recalled any issues with rocks during play.