3 Alarm Fire Tears Through 3rd Story Of Law Firm Offices | San Bernardino 

All the evidence is SAFE and SOUND. Why do you ask?

He's taking early retirement.

LOL! Right!

The cake to people ratio was not correct.

If I don't get my red stapler....

The cause to a fire is not always immediately known. It can take days or weeks to determine a cause. Sometimes a cause is never determined.

Sometimes the fire is so hot and so much damage is done that the cause can’t be determined , I have seen and heard of fires starting in a lap top or computer towers but the fire marshal can’t be 100% because there isn’t anything left but a pile of melted Metal and plastic which was unidentifiable

In San Bernardino? Tweekers.

palm to forehead---sheesh, i left the coffee pot turned on!

*MOST* Of the fires lately in SB have all been caused by Homeless people, like the several fires in Carousel Mall.

Don't know much about how a fire is fought do you? Difficult to tell in an eight minute video what was actually going on.

@@station079 A little bit, l spent more than 34 years otj on the east coast. 8 minutes can be a either a very long time on the foreground or depending on what's going on. Either way, in 8 minutes your ladder or tower should be in the air, hydrants grabbed, companies fed and if need be a deck gun running. All l see if on poor sob on the roof by himself! Everyone one has an opinion, is what it is long as they all home!

There’s several rigs outside and you see no one outside besides the roof guys, also the streams of water shooting out? Why would you put a deck through when crews are inside working interior?

You don't put water from the outside on to teams that are working interior but you can put water on the fire from outside before the interior crews are set up and ready to go and if they had done this the fire would have been knocked down far quicker and would not spread as much. Simple stuff really.

the Clinton's ?? 😅

@@DirtyDog995 or Trump

@@DirtyDog995 - No, they would've come down with a terminal case of the Arkansas Sudden Death Syndrome.

@@DirtyDog995 that Clinton body count gets higher and higher each day

Don't want to push the fire into the un burned area of the structure. You want to attack it from the inside with hose lines and push it out in an offensive strategy.

@@medmark I had no idea you could push fire with water?

@@williamheber2118 yes. The water and airflow will “push” fire

@@medmark whatever would have been "pushed" inside still would have been less damage that the fire ripping for 10 more minutes unimpeded. An outside master stream should have been the very first thing setup. "Unburned attack" is antiquated.

A deck gun on an engine would have even made this better.

@@whermanntx Yeah that would’ve been good choice too. I don’t know if they have deck guns on their engines

LOL, just goes to show you that even video can be misleading. That fire could have been much, much worse. Most of the action took place out of the view of the camera.

Sort of difficult to tell by the video. Heck, the best hose usage in the entire video was a guy using a booster line putting out hotspots in the flower bed. Most of the action took place inside the building via an interior attack. San Bernardino County Fire's website stated that they responded with "13 Engines, 4 Truck Companies, three Chief Officers, an Air/Light Unit, a Medic Squad & three Fire Investigators. Colton, Rialto, Loma Linda also assisted each with an Engine Company."

Bands will play no more...too much fighting on the dance floor

Bro it's a wasteland.

@@dinnerisgood that’s crazy. If that was the 323, you’d see a mob of people with cellphones out, and a traffic jam in front of that burning structure

Well from what I saw from the drone footage, they had the block shut down.

They had a whole area shut down there was police cars blocking the road

Oh shut up! It’s county workers they will have jobs!!!! I bet you are a work snitch

Probably currupt government officials

It does have sprinklers and standpipes They were working the fire from the interior and had water on it before the video even started

sprinklers arent designed to necessarily put out a fire.. they are designed to buy time and also help to get a stop on a fire.. if the fire started above the ceiling level its p[ossible the code in that area doesnt require heads above a drop ceiling and so the fire could get a decent run before the ceilings come down and activate sprinklers.. in a raging fire scene from outside to see that the fire was pretty well contained to one quadrant says that the sprinklers did their job and helped to slow the fire anbd buy time for the fire crews inside to mount an interior attack (a succesful one by the looks of it).

Why to you ask so many questions based on limited information?

I'm sorry. I used to live there before it went to shit.

You see all the apparatus on scene and no one standing around? That means the crews are inside fighting fire. No need for a master stream if there are crews inside fighting fire. No need to mix offensive and defensive strategies.

In San Bernardino county they only do Master streams when they're doing defensive and there is several firefighters inside actually fighting the fire you do see a some moments where there's water shooting out from the inside

REALLY??? Are you seriously this ignorant? You should seriously consider NOT making comments about subjects you clearly know nothing about Doing such might prevent you from making such a fool of yourself

Maybe they did a interior attack.

Master stream seriously? You would go defensive with only a single floor and a few offices involved? Oh, and the drone footage is pretty good showing the exterior from another platform for the IC to have additional information that may play a part in the tactics. It's pretty obvious that these guys are interior and setting up their fire attack. These guys in Berdoo know what their doing. Respectfully

So Cal city fire departments are anything but fire fighters. LA are the worse. Even the city I live near by can let a dumpster fire turn into a 5 alarm disaster.

He was putting out the burning bark mulch that would have kept going and engulfed the entire first floor.

I'm an old fart, but I think they didn't position close to the heavily involved portion of the building because of the collapse potential. They entered the uninvolved part of the building and made an interior attack, into the wind, which is of course beyond their control. That looks like lightweight steel or "J-bar". Parellel chord teel trusses made from re-bar and steel channel. Trusses don't do well in fires. Nonody seems to know this crappy construction was the same thing used in the World Trade Center. There were all these nuts running around saying "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" like they knew something. Never read a book. There WERE NO steel beams, only the facade, It did pretty well though, all things considered. It was sticking way up after everything else was long gone. Good job San Bernardino and LA Co!

RU-vid fire investigator.

An Electrical fire is a appliance that keeps you warm ..try using vocabulary along the lines of perhaps it was caused by an electrical fault of an electrical appliance sounds more professional and doesn't make you out to be illiterate or ignorant have a nice day 😉

@@firekev5166 Shut Up, Karen!

Maybe that law firm represented a client who filed a law suit against against one of that city's Police Officers.

@@dand3975 very likely.

👍😆 and let's not forget, the Big Guy always gets 10%

@@optimusprinceps3526 yeah, there's definitely some shadiness here

@@optimusprinceps3526 damn he hit me up fo 75% some dayz just not wirth gettin outta bunk.

From a FF in NZ - nice job considering how involved it was early on but why no aerial attack from upwind positioned from the intersection (especially in a resource-rich city like San Bernadino)?

Hay diggernator, thanks for the question. The reason is, you have crews inside trying to advance lines into the involved area and add to that, against the wind. A ladder pipe or master stream from an engines deck gun would drive the fire down on the guys and really fry their asses. It was explained to me years ago when i was a young pup fire chief at 26, having a master stream directed down or at you while in a building is like ordering an artiliary barage on yourself. Not a good move. However, the position of the fire couldnt have been at a better place: top floor, corner of the building and a fire resistive building. No doubt there was a heavy fire load in those rooms/offices for that amount of heavy fire volume. Their was a stick to the roof corner of B/C, (ladder trucks aerial), in the opposite rear corner. Escape for the roof ops crew if thr roof becomes untennable. The guys did good. Id of made the same calls. Stay safe my brother!

@@chief1945 I wouldn't have had the crew 'down stream' of the aerial, though our building code calls for mandatory sprinklers in buildings of this age so a different world really ... at the end of the day they did a good job and saved the bulk of the structure..... Cheers for the answer brother you stay safe too

Chief, like everything you said, I didn't see any interior attack lines going into the buildings. Was there hose cabinets in the building? Preserving the lower floors, from water damage? Where I am from, the amount of vsible exterior fire, would of required us to make an exterior attack, with a ladder tower.

was probably worth more dead than alive!

Because they are on the inside working the fire properly As for the fire, with the vast majority of structure fires the primary fire load isn't the structure itself but rather the contents Think of how much stuff today is petroleum based, especially compared to things made decades ago I started my firefighting career in the 80's and we did not face the fire loads that firefighters do today

I Thought The SAME Thing!, Maybe This Is A "HIGH RENT" District!

It’s Hollywood, the trucks are props and the firefighters, if you find them, are paid actors.

First impression....you are a YT Comment expert. Sit back in your recliner and continue your nap.

@@virgilhilts3924 Large open plan office space is subject to totally uncontrollable fire when it gets going, modern fire load is so high. It is very dangerous for firefighters.

lol, in the third world US?

What about it?

@@virgilhilts3924 Did they have one?

They are...from the inside.

Out of collapse zone.

@@komohale3522 Not sugesting they park against the building, but you could certainly park the rig at the corner or on opposite side of street. I don't see any indication this building is going to collapse BTW. Would certainly have a ladder or two on the street side for a potential exterior attack. I'm all for going inside, but I suspect you could have knocked this thing complete down rather quickly with 1 elevated master stream.

I agree with you as far as this one goes but there's about as many approaches to putting out a fire in the United States as there are fire departments.....

And the fact they failed to hit the fire from outside in the first place.

@@andyoxleyonhistravels they were hitting the fire from the inside Andy

@@andyoxleyonhistravels Once again proving you aren't a firefighter and never have been 🤣😅😂 VIRGIL HILTS

@@fastkarr8256 He thinks firefighting is squirting water with a garden hose from the sidewalk as fast as you can

@@virgilhilts3924 lmao.🤡

Where do you see them working slowly?

Marijuana ?

@@quantumrealmtourist71 pfff

@@Flintmanx ?

Billable Hours

Nope.

@@komohale3522 why not?

No affect on our air.

Because you do not fight a fire with a master stream from the outside when you have firefighters inside Doing such is how you get firefighters killed