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3 BODY PROBLEM Explained: Why The DARK FOREST THEORY Is Horrifying & Season 2 Will Be Even Scarier. In this video we break down the Dark Forest Theory, as it is the title of the second book in the trilogy we thought we would go into the meaning behind it in more detail. Explaining what it means and the reasons why we have thus far been unable to contact any kind of alien life forms, what the scientists say and how this could lead into the second season of this sci-fi mind bender. lots to get through so lets get into it!
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Greetings and salutations, my Fellow Bugs! It’s me MT and I come in peace! Welcome back to the Heavy Spoilers Show, y’all! Spoilers for Netflix’s 3 Body Problem series coming your way because we’ve got to discuss a key concept about what is coming next in this existential crisis of good television. So stop this video, go watch 3 Body Problem, cancel that boat cruise you scheduled with your kids and then come back here so we can talk about one of THE scariest concepts about OUR own reality that 3 Body Problem has begun to dive into in preparation for a potential Season 2. Because there might just be spies in the night sky.
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@heavyspoilers
@heavyspoilers Месяц назад
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@MaxPower-vg4vr
@MaxPower-vg4vr Месяц назад
@heavyspoilers The "three body problem" you refer to regarding the challenge of analytically solving the motions of three gravitationally interacting bodies is indeed a notorious unsolvable conundrum in classical physics and mathematics. However, adopting the non-contradictory infinitesimal and monadological frameworks outlined in the text could provide novel avenues for addressing this issue in a coherent cosmological context. Here are some possibilities: 1. Infinitesimal Monadological Gravity Instead of treating gravitational sources as ideal point masses, we can model them as pluralistic configurations of infinitesimal monadic elements with extended relational charge distributions: Gab = Σi,j Γij(ma, mb, rab) Where Gab is the gravitational interaction between monadic elements a and b, determined by combinatorial charge relation functions Γij over their infinitesimal masses ma, mb and relational separations rab. Such an infinitesimal relational algebraic treatment could potentially regularize the three-body singularities by avoiding point-idealization paradoxes. 2. Pluriversal Superpositions We can represent the overall three-body system as a superposition over monadic realizations: |Ψ3-body> = Σn cn Un(a, b, c) Where Un(a, b, c) are basis states capturing different monadic perspectives on the three-body configuration, with complex amplitudes cn. The dynamics would then involve tracking non-commutative flows of these basis states, governed by a generalized gravitational constraint algebra rather than a single deterministic evolution. 3. Higher-Dimensional Hyperpluralities The obstruction to analytic solvability may be an artifact of truncating to 3+1 dimensions. By embedding in higher dimensional kaleidoscopic geometric algebras, the three-body dynamics could be represented as relational resonances between polytope realizations: (a, b, c) ←→ Δ3-body ⊂ Pn Where Δ3-body is a dynamic polytope in the higher n-dimensional representation Pn capturing intersectional gravitational incidences between the three monadic parties a, b, c through infinitesimal homotopic deformations. 4. Coherent Pluriverse Rewriting The very notion of "three separable bodies" may be an approximation that becomes inconsistent for strongly interdependent systems. The monadological framework allows rewriting as integrally pluralistic structures avoiding Cartesian idealization paradoxes: Fnm = R[Un(a, b, c), Um(a, b, c)] Representing the "three-body" dynamics as coherent resonance functors Fnm between relatively realized states Un, Um over the total interdependent probability amplitudes for all monadic perspectives on the interlaced (a, b, c) configuration. In each of these non-contradictory possibilities, the key is avoiding the classical idealized truncations to finite point masses evolving deterministically in absolute geometric representations. The monadological and infinitesimal frameworks re-ground the "three bodies" in holistic pluralistic models centering: 1) Quantized infinitesimal separations and relational distributions 2) Superposed monadic perspectival realizations 3) Higher-dimensional geometric algebraic embeddings 4) Integral pluriversal resonance structure rewritings By embracing the metaphysical first-person facts of inherent plurality and subjective experiential inseparability, the new frameworks may finally render such traditionally "insoluble" dynamical conundrums as the three-body problem analytically accessible after all - reframed in transcendently non-contradictory theoretical architectures.
@cosmicdioxide
@cosmicdioxide Месяц назад
San-Ti had already started their plan to weakened humanity by utilising tiktok
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Месяц назад
Tiktok is a communist plot to destroy America
@Plusimurfriend
@Plusimurfriend Месяц назад
Don't be racist or anti-semitic.
@ramy8207
@ramy8207 Месяц назад
Love that you're doing so many of these. Gotta give this show as much buzz as possible to fight that Netflix cancellation curse
@jeffghant4760
@jeffghant4760 Месяц назад
Keep your expectations low. I fully expect Netflix to cancel the 2nd season.
@ramy8207
@ramy8207 Месяц назад
@@jeffghant4760hope for the best, expect the worst
@darklordofyocommunitah4781
@darklordofyocommunitah4781 Месяц назад
*Coughs in Mindhunter...
@ramy8207
@ramy8207 Месяц назад
@@darklordofyocommunitah4781fr. and Archive 81, and 1899, and...
@Quietstrife
@Quietstrife Месяц назад
@@darklordofyocommunitah4781 *cough*Daredevil *cough* Altered Carbon *cough* Archive 81 🙄
@windspast
@windspast Месяц назад
What is horrifying, is the realization that one person can some how usher in the doom of an entire solar system. Imagine if 40 years ago, ONE PERSON on earth also invited ET to come and destroy us and we don't even know it yet.
@LiquidLez
@LiquidLez Месяц назад
We already sent a probe out with a bunch of shit, I don't remember if it says how to come to earth or not 😂
@cgi2173
@cgi2173 Месяц назад
When you think about it, it's not that horrible. Her conditions at that time. If you and I went through that, you'd want someone to come down and wreak violence against the people that have caused you suffering.
@cgi2173
@cgi2173 Месяц назад
@@LiquidLezI think it does. There's also info about the planet etc. 😬
@windspast
@windspast Месяц назад
@@LiquidLez yeah I remember when I was young, reading about stuff that we've been sending out. Guess we'll really know. Guess we'll know if space aliens come and conquer us because we gave out our position.
@LiquidLez
@LiquidLez Месяц назад
@@cgi2173 our intergalactic friends look at all the raw material we have on our sick planet. Don't come and hurt us plz.
@Kaijutopia
@Kaijutopia Месяц назад
"In the Dark Forest, it's kill in silence or be killed with violence." - Love this line! Always a pleasure to listen to an MT video breaking everything down!
@giancarlodr.iodice1701
@giancarlodr.iodice1701 Месяц назад
It's not what is happening now in every forest on this earth??!!from Fishes to Snakes. some flowers....mostly. we ARE bUg..S What a painful way to love!!
@VespoLiveGaming
@VespoLiveGaming Месяц назад
In the grim darkness of the future, there is only war.
@giancarlodr.iodice1701
@giancarlodr.iodice1701 29 дней назад
@IronThreads9 Feynman would say who knows if the electrons team up or compete to reach stable orbits..As below so above and beyond I imagine....
@SB_Tommy
@SB_Tommy Месяц назад
Everyone gangster til 2 solar systems got annihilated by a minimum wage worker name "Singer" 😬
@GangstarComputerGod
@GangstarComputerGod Месяц назад
Whose boss basically told him to stop being so lazy.
@drgirlfriend211
@drgirlfriend211 Месяц назад
Now Singer the gangster😂😂😂 what a world…. Er, galaxy…
@tjw2469
@tjw2469 Месяц назад
If you read the book carefully, the three body star system and the solar system were annihilated by more advanced civilization,Singer was too slow
@mr.m2659
@mr.m2659 Месяц назад
​@tjw2469 isn't it just a possible typo with the dates in the book?
@tjw2469
@tjw2469 Месяц назад
@@mr.m2659 It is a miscalculation by the author. However, it’s up to you to perceive it as either a mistake or as an indirect hint that many more “hunters” in the dark forest are always ready to pull the trigger to eliminate any potential threat. And, Singer is not even the fastest among them.
@meowzzies
@meowzzies Месяц назад
Season 3 will be even more terrifying with respect to the Dark Forest theory, but in the interest of no spoilers.. read the books!
@cgi2173
@cgi2173 Месяц назад
I'm too scared to read the books. 😂
@ConnerKent08
@ConnerKent08 Месяц назад
After episode 5 if I was the aliens, I'd be scared too
@kristingallo2158
@kristingallo2158 Месяц назад
Well episode 5 gave an unfortunate realistic view . We don't like it, but in all seriousness war has casualties and sometimes unfair choices have to be made. That's typically what sets leaders apart , they don't sacrifice a million to save one. They sacrifice one to save a million. And earth itself is a violent planet. We didn't make it that way. It just is that way.
@jonkerwin
@jonkerwin Месяц назад
Wait til the dark forest. Things get wild. Really wild.
@Oyi_14
@Oyi_14 Месяц назад
​@@kristingallo2158Only problem is I don't trust any leaders to make those kind of decisions.
@kristingallo2158
@kristingallo2158 Месяц назад
@@Oyi_14 doesn't really matter if you trust them or not, they do it every day.
@eternal_napalm6442
@eternal_napalm6442 Месяц назад
The San-Ti know about The Dark Forest.
@Maya_Ruinz
@Maya_Ruinz Месяц назад
Personally I think this is a solid explanation for why we might not see life, its had plenty of time to expand.. either they are hiding or just to far away.
@cgi2173
@cgi2173 Месяц назад
Too far away. 😁
@Quietstrife
@Quietstrife Месяц назад
@@cgi2173 optimistic point of view
@LucasAndrei
@LucasAndrei Месяц назад
Plenty of time....according to?
@aaronpop0083
@aaronpop0083 Месяц назад
It's important to note that the dark forest theory isn't a set answer. The Fermi paradox itself has its own answer to its question. The other possible answers is that we are the first and most advanced, or any other xeno have been destroyed before contacting us.
@gj9157
@gj9157 3 дня назад
​@@LucasAndrei The age of the universe
@JerryLJackson
@JerryLJackson Месяц назад
The Dark Forest is “an” explanation to the Fermi paradox, it’s not the only explanation. The great filter we face toward becoming multi-planetary is likely a common issue for any advanced life forms, but the biggest issue is sharing a similar technological evolutionary timeline. It’s possible we are either very early or very late, essentially the forest could simply be currently empty, because the other aliens have come and gone or they’re just not here yet. 🤷‍♂️
@mr.m2659
@mr.m2659 Месяц назад
Yes but in this series, the universe is a dark forest, I'm sure we're all well aware of the solutions
@aaronpop0083
@aaronpop0083 Месяц назад
No unfortunately. There's a lot of people that don't put that much mental energy into critical thinking. Look at the test scores of gen z in America, should be all the proof you need for that.
@eyespy3001
@eyespy3001 28 дней назад
A fellow kurzgesagt watcher I see
@BRIMxmusic
@BRIMxmusic 16 дней назад
@@aaronpop0083 who do you think taught gen z what they know?
@aaronpop0083
@aaronpop0083 16 дней назад
@@BRIMxmusic part of it is on us yes. The biggest part however is on them.
@thedethrocker8858
@thedethrocker8858 Месяц назад
If any of you guys haven't read the books.....you do not know true terror 😂😂😂 love the show aswell btw
@mikejack257
@mikejack257 Месяц назад
Droplets inbound 😢
@thedethrocker8858
@thedethrocker8858 Месяц назад
@@mikejack257 argh!!!!!!!!!!!!
@nihitseraphim3613
@nihitseraphim3613 Месяц назад
@@mikejack257 Hold my Dual-Vector Foil. - Singer (Probably)
@CarrieArt7
@CarrieArt7 Месяц назад
Hearing the Dark Forest theory made me really think about how it is kind of dangerous for us to try to make contact with extraterrestrial life.
@user-ky7rr4zr1i
@user-ky7rr4zr1i Месяц назад
No freaking way netflix will cancel this phenomenal show.
@drag-ha
@drag-ha Месяц назад
Please
@giovannifoulmouth7205
@giovannifoulmouth7205 Месяц назад
if they do, we riot!
@choppydell
@choppydell Месяц назад
When the San-Ti/Trisolarans explained how fast we grew as a society and the ability for deception, it really showed how much we as species are very dangerous. With the amount of extraterrestrial activity happening in recent years. Perhaps they're already making a move on us
@LiquidLez
@LiquidLez Месяц назад
We are really good at killing, they're toast brah.
@NRV0
@NRV0 Месяц назад
From San Ti point of view, I guess it does indeed make sense for them to view Humanity as a threat when you put it like that.
@choppydell
@choppydell Месяц назад
@LiquidLez doesn't mean they're slouches in that department. Especially considering they have a permanent spies that can see and hear anything & everything all at once.
@glennac
@glennac Месяц назад
What “extraterrestrial activity” has been “happening in recent years”? 🤔
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter Месяц назад
Them aliens act like it isnt natural to tzeench yourself. Them chaos spawns.
@gabrielvelazquez714
@gabrielvelazquez714 Месяц назад
MT my guy ! I’m so happy this channel is breaking down this series!! Great 👍 job !!!
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley Месяц назад
MT!!!! THANKS for this serious level of detail!!!!
@kristingallo2158
@kristingallo2158 Месяц назад
Maybe aliens just don't use radios. All our ideas on advanced life is always based on ourselves.
@JerryLJackson
@JerryLJackson Месяц назад
Critique on the Netflix show, they did a terrible job of not explaining why ships traveling 10% the speed of light would take 400 years to travel 4.2 light years. Here’s what really happened (in the book) Simple arithmetic would suggest that a vessel traveling at 0.1 the speed of light would take at least 40 years to cover a distance of 4 light years or more, and that's assuming it traveled at its top speed constantly from start to finish. If the journey actually took 400 years rather than 40, it would suggest the vessel was only moving at around 0.01 the speed of light rather than 0.1. In the novel it is stated that the Trisolaran feet can travel at 1/10 the speed of light, hence the confusion This apparent paradox is addressed explicitly by Liu when Ye Wenjie is being interrogated. Just as the OP asks: INTERROGATOR: Then I have a question. If the Trisolaran Fleet that had been launched is capable of flight at one-tenth the speed of light, it should take only forty years to reach the solar system. So why do you say that it would take more than four hundred years? The answer is: YE: Here’s the thing. The Trisolaran Interstellar Fleet is composed of incredibly massive spaceships. Accelerating them is a slow process. One-tenth the speed of light is only their maximum speed, but they cannot cruise at this speed for long before decelerating as they approach the Earth. Also, the source of propulsion for the Trisolaran ships is matter-antimatter annihilation. In front of each ship is a large magnetic field shaped like a funnel to collect antimatter particles from space. This collection process is slow, and only after a long wait can it gather enough antimatter to allow the ship to accelerate for a brief period. Thus, the fleet’s acceleration occurs in spurts, interspersed by long periods of coasting to collect fuel. This is why the time it takes the Trisolaran Fleet to reach the solar system is ten times longer than the flight time of a small probe.
@noturmum7967
@noturmum7967 Месяц назад
☝🏽🤓
@BeczaBot
@BeczaBot Месяц назад
Too wordy for a TV show. I want aliens go boom boom not talk talk
@noturmum7967
@noturmum7967 Месяц назад
@@BeczaBot this is more lovecraftian than fast and the furious. If you want alien boom boom I'd recommend Quiet place Life Alien 1-2 Falling Skies District 9 Prey Underwater Cloverfield Probably quite a few on Netflix as well
@christopheraaron2412
@christopheraaron2412 Месяц назад
I like a program that essentially appeals to the intellect. The fact that in the series they stated that Earth would become more advanced than by the time they reached us and that they probably would have been destroyed by their own star system in the unstable orbit is actually a very very appealing.
@lankyimnida595
@lankyimnida595 Месяц назад
I think netflix did pretty well on balancing the "nerdy" stuff and instead presented it in a digestible manner. At the end of the day, being this detailed would be pointless if the point was not sent across. I for one got more interested because of what I saw that's why I'm digging deeper. I'm thinking of reading the books ☺️
@SgtCrypto
@SgtCrypto Месяц назад
Wait those blue aliens have 2 snatches? No wonder he betrayed humanity. Sign me up.
@mr.m2659
@mr.m2659 Месяц назад
Theyre also the size of a grain of rice 😂 but their appearance is unknown
@ouroboricscribe3201
@ouroboricscribe3201 Месяц назад
​@@mr.m2659 He was talking about the Navi from Avatar
@PrabhablyAGoodYouTuber
@PrabhablyAGoodYouTuber Месяц назад
@@mr.m2659 apparently their appearance is similar to water bears (tardigrades), and it also explains their ability to dehydrate/rehydrate. I haven't read the books yet, but I plan to soon - however I heard that their description could also not be considered "canon" because they were described in a spin-off "4th book" in the series written by a fan of the series called "The Redemption of Time". But it is messy because the book was also approved to be published by Cixin Liu... but maybe he felt pressured to do so because he believed he had cancer at the time (fortunately it was a misdiagnosis). The behind the scenes of this series seems to be just as interesting as the series itself lmao
@thegatheringknights
@thegatheringknights Месяц назад
Good inputs coming from you MT. learn a lot with your breakdowns. Never a boring moment. You have my respect.
@elijahrausch3797
@elijahrausch3797 Месяц назад
MT SO HAPPY YOURE DOING BREAKDOWNS AGAIN! Missed you watching NR
@Reedtechnology
@Reedtechnology Месяц назад
Love your style man, keep up the good work!
@SuperPiper27
@SuperPiper27 Месяц назад
Thank you for breaking this down!
@tko_5
@tko_5 Месяц назад
I was hoping you were doing this!!!!
@Quietstrife
@Quietstrife Месяц назад
Loving the 3 body videos good job
@dbooker8339
@dbooker8339 Месяц назад
Love the videos Brother keep it up
@leahcimwerdna5209
@leahcimwerdna5209 Месяц назад
Quinn's ideas getting a lot of traffic lately lol
@fingal113
@fingal113 Месяц назад
8:05 "SPOILER ALERT" i don't think they had as much problem with our lying as they did with our treatment of "pests". that's why they called us bugs. they are in fact highly evolved small insect like beings. keep that in mind and rewatch the scene where evens scared and pissed off the San-te.
@drewskywalker3451
@drewskywalker3451 Месяц назад
Honestly they might not be going that direction. They are only described like that in redemption of time which is a spin off novel written by a different author. Liu never seemed happy about it and we never got the 4th book because of that spin off. It's place in canon is HEAVILY debated
@fingal113
@fingal113 Месяц назад
@@drewskywalker3451 i wouldn't be surprised if they did go a different direction. Dan and Dave like to give a big middle finger to the creator of the art that they are adapting to make it their own thing. as far as book 4 goes, i thought Liu Cixin signed off on it making it canon.
@BruceKendallMartinJr
@BruceKendallMartinJr Месяц назад
A decent reach but still a reach. They were scared more of the lieing because they can't defend against lieing cause they can't read minds
@fpl_djhammer
@fpl_djhammer Месяц назад
I highly doubt it's more to do with our potential treatment of them due to their appearance but rather their inability to lie/deceive/conceal their true intentions it's a foreign concept to them and I can see why they would be terrified that such a thing was possible for humans to do
@JustRoy11
@JustRoy11 Месяц назад
Love this. Best explanation ever!
@zollen123
@zollen123 Месяц назад
Using radio wave for intergalactic communication is like putting your message in a bottle and throw it into an ocean and expect your friend somehow pickup your message shortly. Advanced aliens would have a far more advanced and more *effective* means for communication.
@iori1303
@iori1303 Месяц назад
The point behind the DFT is NOT to communicate at all outside your own World. And no advanced alien civilisation would asume their way of communication is superior to others and cant be detected. If the DFT is true, the silence is intentional on EVERY form of comunication...
@rudolfambrozenvtuber
@rudolfambrozenvtuber Месяц назад
Gravity and neutrino communication in the world of 3BP, to be specific
@Rishabh-Dev
@Rishabh-Dev Месяц назад
I am excited to see Water droplet destruction sequence in live action. 😅
@ErnaPachulke
@ErnaPachulke Месяц назад
A wolf senses another wolf in the dark forest. His reaction: "Oh, another wolf" A man senses another man in the dark forest. He thinks: "It must be a murderer"
@garedmorort
@garedmorort Месяц назад
We don’t even know if another civilization had to share their planet with other intelligent species thus learning to distrust other intelligent species
@duckofdeath3266
@duckofdeath3266 Месяц назад
The Fermi Paradox is indeed _a_ theory. The reality of us not encountering any alien species yet is however more due to the fact that we can't even properly classify the habitability of the "goldilocks zone" planets in our nearest star system, a measly 4 light years away. The main problem is the unfathomable distances in our galaxy. There are around a hundred billion "solar systems" in the galaxy, but even light needs almost 100,000 years to travel from one end to the other. Unless we completely break known science, we will never be able to travel anywhere near the speed of light. What speaks against the reality of the Dark Forest Theory and Fermi Paradox is, even in the darkest of dark forests, you won't have to stay still for long until you see or hear life. Just like Ye did in the show. Beings do what beings do for all their odd reasons. For instance, there are always predators actively trying to create contact by tricking or mimicking prey.
@fpl_djhammer
@fpl_djhammer Месяц назад
fair point but if there ARE any out there, they are 100% just observing and keeping track of what humans are doing/developing
@christophersims7060
@christophersims7060 Месяц назад
I haven't watched the show yet but this whole explanation of what it's about has me very intrigued. It's very scary thought process this is. Great video!
@Kcruz1400
@Kcruz1400 Месяц назад
Honestly I'm glad you made these videos bc more people will now watch the Netflix adaptation I want it to get a second season
@jiveairplane
@jiveairplane Месяц назад
Real talk - in our understanding of 3 dimensional physics.. the probability of an advanced civilization surviving long enough in ANY solar system to produce a form of space travel (which would also need time travel or inter-dimensional travel..) is extremely low. Space is mostly chaotic and we are lucky enough to happen to live in a relatively stable single star system. This still doesn’t ensure that a disaster on a single planet (ie. meteor that killed the dinosaurs, ice age, great flood) couldn’t wipe out the population on any habitable planet. Even for us to travel far in space we would have to somehow break our born perception of only 3 dimensions just to maybe make it outside of our solar system. And if not there would be no chance any interstellar traveler could ever return here without Earth being destroyed or substantially changed. Science is so fascinating
@jaybain4337
@jaybain4337 Месяц назад
MT, thanks for sharing this "cosmic sociology" breakdown! Quick question - do you think the San-ti that said "we are afraid of you" (and later "You are bugs") was the same San-ti as "The Listener" who said don't reply to this message from the beginning of the first book?
@danadziekan
@danadziekan Месяц назад
No. In the book, The LIstener is punished (harshly). And from their perspective, we were the ones who should be afraid.
@BeczaBot
@BeczaBot Месяц назад
It is the same race but the listener was an individual of the San-Ti who decided to warn the humans partly for their own self interest, eg. afriad of losing their job.
@parkerfitness7173
@parkerfitness7173 Месяц назад
Guy has a convo at lunch and makes a Nobel worthy theory But yet my theories when I was a teen I’d just hear back “that’s crazy” or “you’re too high dude”
@Tremori_A
@Tremori_A Месяц назад
Man i was watching NR more than Heavy spoilers now that MT is here im doing the vice versa
@roberthahn6496
@roberthahn6496 Месяц назад
Watching these great videos will sustain me for a bit but the long wait until season 2 seems daunting 😟
@AnnieAreU0kay
@AnnieAreU0kay Месяц назад
Shoutout MT 💯💯
@kafairybliss1
@kafairybliss1 Месяц назад
Where dey at doe?! 😂😂😂 So friggin hilarious 😂😂😂
@RoyVanRivero
@RoyVanRivero Месяц назад
One other theory says "alien civilizations had become so advanced that they ended up killing themselves in a nuclear war, which is why we haven't detected any radio waves from space." -- which also implies that we, the earthlings, will do the same (nuclear war) some time in the future, and the reason why we will cease to exist.
@poppapa289
@poppapa289 Месяц назад
Tbh my favorite things on Netflix I need more of right now are these 3 parasyte arcane and this show
@marwell21
@marwell21 Месяц назад
I still cannot understand why they named them San-Ti and not Trisolarans like in the books.
@radientproductions9799
@radientproductions9799 Месяц назад
i'm not sure if the average person can handle just how DARK this show will get if the upcoming seasons happen
@IDaydreamALittleTooMuch
@IDaydreamALittleTooMuch Месяц назад
Now you've got my attention. Might have to read the books to find out.
@bro918
@bro918 Месяц назад
aint no way
@eternal_napalm6442
@eternal_napalm6442 Месяц назад
I hear production studios have 2D down lol.
@fpl_djhammer
@fpl_djhammer Месяц назад
as a person who didn't read the ASOIAF books that rawdogged the show with no prior knowledge, I AM EXTREMELY EXCITED by your statement hahaha shows like Black Mirror are also one of my favourites because of how dark or messed up it can get can't wait for S2 of 3BP!!!
@bro918
@bro918 Месяц назад
They're going to need some SERIOUS budget to get the later seasons on point
@AHSEN.
@AHSEN. 29 дней назад
3:14 The Dark Forest theory was created by Cixin Liu himself. The book wasn't titled referencing the theory, _he made the theory._ I highly recommend reading the series as soon as you can. 5:43 Also, it's safer to just _not_ attack because who knows how powerful your adversary is? If they are more powerful than you, you might die yourself. Therefore it's safer to just stay silent and hidden... I'm not sure if that's a part of the theory, though that seems to be an important part of it.
@felixrcandelaria
@felixrcandelaria 24 дня назад
Where they at tho 🤣🤣😂😂 MT you've been fantastic man!
@romemakes794
@romemakes794 Месяц назад
Love hearing MT on this channel
@Beastxpower01
@Beastxpower01 Месяц назад
Been obsessed with this series
@cgi2173
@cgi2173 Месяц назад
When it first dropped on Netflix, I kept seeing it and thought, nah not gunna watch it. 4 days ago, I thought I'd check it out. Finished the whole season yesterday. 😊
@mr.m2659
@mr.m2659 Месяц назад
​@@cgi2173 try the tencent version if you get bored, it explores the cosmic sociology and philosophy a lot more
@artificiallyflavord5588
@artificiallyflavord5588 Месяц назад
Love the 3body love
@NightRunner417
@NightRunner417 Месяц назад
The Dark Forest hypothesis cannot work for one very simple reason: You can't know you're in a hostile universe until you step out into it and stir up the hornets, so to speak. Take our own planet as a fine example. There's no shortage of horror here on Earth, and we know this because it happens all the time. Probably, for our own safety, we should all be hiding from each other in the deepest holes we can make to hide in. But we don't. We wage war, we rape, murder, lie cheat and steal ALL THE TIME. And the noise we make while doing it is pretty epic. There's no doubt in my mind that as we evolve, we WILL take these traits out in to the galaxy with us, and be even noisier with it. WE ourselves fly in the face of this poor attempt at explanation every single minute of every single day and anyone out there with reasonable means to detect industrialization would EASILY discover our activities without any need for us to attempt to contact them. We've already broken that Dark Forest silence, times beyond count. Any other intelligent civilization just stepping out into the wider universe would be doing the same, and the Dark Forest being the dark, violent place it is would put on a spectacular show as civilizations clash and wipe each other out. The Dark Forest hypothesis by definition renders the universe even noisier than we are. There's no way that everyone would know to be quiet and that's it, not in a universe of trillions of galaxies and a galaxy of hundreds of billions of stars. The ONLY two rational explanations for the Great Silence are either that there simply is nothing happening out there but simple, planet locked life that never makes it to anything greater, or, our endlessly irrational ego does not match our capabilities and we are simply too deaf and blind to see what's all around us. Given that we are not only VERY much alive but also intelligent enough to move outward from our home planet, it stands to reason that in a universe this vast and complex, we ARE NOT ALONE. Thus, we just still suck at detecting our neighbors. We still have a lot of growing up to do.
@sabrinae486
@sabrinae486 Месяц назад
MT has some mad dialogue in this video "Darker than the back of Daniel Kaluuya's neck." bro loool
@Kallosar
@Kallosar Месяц назад
So the universe is a giant Battle Royale lobby? :D
@eternal_napalm6442
@eternal_napalm6442 Месяц назад
With bonus XP for not being spotted
@fpl_djhammer
@fpl_djhammer Месяц назад
and the understanding/mastery over "dark matter" is the golden loot box of the universe
@jonathanprin1998
@jonathanprin1998 27 дней назад
The most important was not said : that the SAn'ti stopped remaining silent because of the only reason out of their reach that their stellar system is chaotic and may kill them for good.
@TRANGNGUYEN-vd8rb
@TRANGNGUYEN-vd8rb 19 дней назад
I love MT! His narration is so awesome!!
@erickhart8046
@erickhart8046 Месяц назад
Very nice
@kasepollard7923
@kasepollard7923 Месяц назад
You had me at Space Cookout!
@motivatedt9926
@motivatedt9926 Месяц назад
Quinn's Idea's been making content on Three Body Problem 4 years ago. Talk about being ahead of the curb
@anonymousone6075
@anonymousone6075 Месяц назад
whop cares...... the books been out for over a decade......
@motivatedt9926
@motivatedt9926 Месяц назад
@@anonymousone6075 you care obviously if you took time to comment about it 😂
@BruceKendallMartinJr
@BruceKendallMartinJr Месяц назад
*curve
@anonymousone6075
@anonymousone6075 Месяц назад
Just like pointing out ridiculous fanboi comments @@motivatedt9926
@cgi2173
@cgi2173 Месяц назад
There is also the Drake equation. Fermi wasn't the only one. 😁
@steveoconnivo9666
@steveoconnivo9666 Месяц назад
I heard MT and thought I clicked on the wrong video. Homie is all over my internet lol
@JohnUyArts
@JohnUyArts Месяц назад
Based on the dark forest theory, then, what earth does in broadcasting its location would mean earth is the deadliest civilization of all, since announcing ones location would both mean confidence of power and luring and traping other civilizations. So its somewhat still a paradox in itself.
@streets05
@streets05 Месяц назад
Or the least intelligent
@mr.m2659
@mr.m2659 Месяц назад
It's a lack of the hiding gene, it's inherent to many species of the series but the lack of it means you are an expationist threat which is why humanity was attacked with extreme prejudice instead of the simple blowing up the san ti got
@itowmyhome797
@itowmyhome797 Месяц назад
Thank you
@josephdarby2001
@josephdarby2001 Месяц назад
Had never heard of this theory before, but it’s pretty awesome
@josephholyfield4867
@josephholyfield4867 Месяц назад
Love MT!! So glad you found a home at Heavy Spoilers.
@christopheraaron2412
@christopheraaron2412 Месяц назад
One more thing about the three-body problem series is that on the alpha centauri with the three stars it made for a very very unstable orbit of that planet so therefore that civilization never had a chance to develop very long before there was a catastrophe that destroyed their civilization so therefore they may have been going through rebuilding and destruction for several million years and basically for us and only took $100,000 years because we have a stable orbit. The reason why they want to disrupt our scientific ability is because in 400 years in which case that's the time it takes for them going at 1% speed of light by the time they were to get to us we would be more advanced than they are at the moment. Well that is happening their civilization would have collapsed again because of the fact that their planet has an unstable orbit and therefore the three stars would have basically reached havoc at some point in the next few hundred years. now the Santee believed that we would go and destroy them as opposed to perhaps us being a bit more evolved by then saying that you know we stopped them or absorb them when we get to us and then we can reach out to them and basically give them some help. Will you give him some help or else basically put them in a zoo like scenario where we'll just simply keep them primitive by essentially not letting them get out of their solar system because of the facts sooner or later their planet destroys their civilization with his unstable orbit.
@sifuweber1478
@sifuweber1478 Месяц назад
So very scary! These books get ya really thinking.
@103-bb7gr
@103-bb7gr Месяц назад
The biggest plot error in my opinion is there is no absolute location in the universe. It always expands and moves fast. Just like 3 body problem Universe location is much more complex problem. The star we are seeing now is hundred of years past light from the star. If aliens are moving in 10 percent of light speed even small miss calculation will lead to big out of track.
@jingbow7496
@jingbow7496 Месяц назад
What a video!
@mikecasey3055
@mikecasey3055 Месяц назад
This show intrigued me, I loved the idea and the whole story. Btw I miss your face MT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section
@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section 15 дней назад
It would be great if you could list all the B-roll material. There were several scenes from series / movies that I would like to check out.
@chriscunningham8703
@chriscunningham8703 Месяц назад
I’m on the Aliens side if they promise to execute “Auggie”!
@justcallmesando
@justcallmesando Месяц назад
In the show there are many references to bugs... which make me think the San-Ti could pretty much look like bugs themselves or according to our own idea of what bugs look like.
@tylersteward8917
@tylersteward8917 Месяц назад
How ironic they are literally bugs.
@fpl_djhammer
@fpl_djhammer Месяц назад
hopefully Aerys Targaryen makes an appearance to say "BURN EM ALLLLLLLL"
@albertoarredondoart
@albertoarredondoart Месяц назад
I heard another soluition for Fermi's Paradox: Civilizations, advance technologically until they sef destruct or return to a more primitive state by depleting the resources of their own planet either by pollution, overpopulation, etc. So they never really get to the point of space colonizing.
@mr.m2659
@mr.m2659 Месяц назад
There are a lot, another is we are too early or too late to the party
@fpl_djhammer
@fpl_djhammer Месяц назад
aka the Great Filter
@eu4juke785
@eu4juke785 Месяц назад
love it
@TimmyneutronHBCG
@TimmyneutronHBCG Месяц назад
I swear earth is just mojoworld for the rest of the galaxy lol😂😂😂
@VespoLiveGaming
@VespoLiveGaming Месяц назад
Dark Forest theory proposes that space is more like Warhammer 40k than it is like Star Trek.
@yen-8680
@yen-8680 5 дней назад
This series origin & background has its own drama & thriller…. Just saw the vid by rotten mango, its crazy and really has 3 body problem.
@MyPisceanNature
@MyPisceanNature Месяц назад
I believe that the solution to the Fermi Paradox is that there is no paradox. I just think the Universe just isn't old enough for interstellar civilizations to exist yet. I don't think any civilization so violent as the Dark Forrest suggests would survive to make it to be an interplanetary civilization, let alone interstellar. Humans dominate the planet by cooperation. Our problems with violence against each other stems from our inability to see all humans as part of our tribe, which is something I think we have to get passed to make it to space. Cooperation is always more beneficial than competition. This is in no way a commentary on Cixin Lui's story, though.
@keyto5526
@keyto5526 Месяц назад
haha tell that to ants colonies around the world. even ant colonies of the same species tried to extermine each other for millions of years. there are reasons why these aliens call us bugs. Humans are not the only species they study on Earth.
@MyPisceanNature
@MyPisceanNature Месяц назад
@keyto5526 Ants are not sentient, and the story is fiction.
@aaronpop0083
@aaronpop0083 Месяц назад
That is one possible answer. That we are the most advanced in space technology.
@MyPisceanNature
@MyPisceanNature Месяц назад
@aaronpop0083 I don't know if we are the most advanced, but I expect that the most advanced civilization that exists is probably not that far ahead of where we are today.
@fpl_djhammer
@fpl_djhammer Месяц назад
we don't really know the exact timescale it takes a civilisation to become interplanetary/interstellar tbh technological advancements are very non-linear so there might be a boom once a certain civilisation discovers why/how XXX works, so I'm not sure if the argument against their existence of "universe isn't old enough" is that strong...
@richardqiunn1473
@richardqiunn1473 Месяц назад
Quick pass the Mustard 😅😅😅😅
@iflow593
@iflow593 Месяц назад
Daniel Kaluuya's neck MT....😂😂 YOU BOGUS😅
@Player456London
@Player456London Месяц назад
I think we should stop giving away our position before it's too late
@Clevergirl09
@Clevergirl09 Месяц назад
If they're so advanced why don't they terraform another planet?
@kingsway731
@kingsway731 Месяц назад
Better watch out for dual vector foils
@kg322
@kg322 Месяц назад
Has this been renewed? There are 2 more parts to the story, and a spinoff book that has been cannonized.
@IDaydreamALittleTooMuch
@IDaydreamALittleTooMuch Месяц назад
Knowing Netflix, it might not be renewed.
@MrHiszpan999
@MrHiszpan999 Месяц назад
I'm gonna start reading the book after watching the show, where does it end?
@eden20111
@eden20111 Месяц назад
This doesn’t explain what Luo Ji sent to that star system. In the book he sends a “SPELL”. 200 years later that star system is destroyed. What kind of spell did he send that destroyed a star make it make sense.
@KermitOfWar
@KermitOfWar Месяц назад
This book series has a very, very, eery feel to it, once you learn about the Apex beings in this book universe ("Hunters", they are called) older than our world, that are far more technologically superior & far more dangerous than the San-Ti. Hunters aren't fortune seekers or philanthropists, they are star system destroyers with the sole purpose of making the universe "smaller" & their universe is filled with them. That's dark. And the San-Ti weren't truply evil, but they couldn't take any chances with humanity, as they saw humanity as a loose end that did not deserve Earth, a paradise world. They played by their universe's rules: The strong destroys the weak. 👍
@chalos23
@chalos23 Месяц назад
MT you left New Rockstar?!
@pillsburryDoughFun
@pillsburryDoughFun Месяц назад
I just hope they add a side story show. Since we closed off good. To flesh out the story more. Maybe even sway us to agree with the other beings.
@SetInTheWestDoc
@SetInTheWestDoc Месяц назад
I have 1 word......Oumuamua
@jamesishmaelwilder8597
@jamesishmaelwilder8597 Месяц назад
OR just maybe, we’re very young compared to the elder alien council that see our barbaric ways and just don’t want anything to do with us until we have evolved, biologically and culturally, beyond them. And the dark forest hypothesis does exist but only among younger civilisations that aren’t yet trusted to sit at the grown-up table.
@stuart2777
@stuart2777 Месяц назад
So why did the aliens answered the call from earth and then they said: "ok, prepare to be conquered"? Like..shouldn´t there be silence (according to the theory) and then a silent attack from them?
@DameSoWavyVevo
@DameSoWavyVevo Месяц назад
Daniel’s neck is crazy 😂
@eRael999
@eRael999 Месяц назад
I'm afraid they would cancel season two just what happened with "Another Life" Series.
@Nite2012Mare
@Nite2012Mare Месяц назад
The only reason for advanced aliens to come here is to study us or eat us, many habitable planets out there without us to fight. 🙄👍
@davidblank420
@davidblank420 Месяц назад
"I am your neighbor, gimme some suga."- MT, probably.
@Spacecrust
@Spacecrust Месяц назад
Human beings are either the first intelligent lifeform to space travel or the last. Either is terrifying
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