Get in the care of a beautiful RN or doctor, trigger the Florence Nightengale effect with your charm... Set for Life! And you get tons of free time, because they spend 48 hours a day at work! 😄
My dog is a much better chick magnet than my motorcycle. I've had maybe two women come up to me on my motorcycle. With my dog, it's literally been hundreds, more so when he was a puppy.
I like old shit too so my entire life is this x4 Just try and drive a 1975 Pinto or an 88 GS1150 or a foxbody without everybody coming out of the woodwork lmao.
@@alphastratus6623 If you live long enough to have them and dont lose your jewels. My parents allways start screaming at me when I talk about bikes because they lost many of their friends to them.
I'm surprised about the saving money part - one of the first things I felt while riding compared to driving a car was less worry about paying for gas or insurance, I go places I would never go in the car because I'd weigh up the cost of a tank of fuel but my bike does 200 miles on $13 so the cost is pretty much removed from the equation when travelling for me. I have to learn how to properly maintain my bike so it doesn't decay too badly sure but that's also a plus - teaching me personal responsibility.
True on motorcycle maintenance teaching you personal responsibility. It's especially true if you didn't get good role modeling for that kind of thing as a kid. Every time I do maintenance on my bike I feel a double sense of satisfaction - getting a job done, and getting myself a little stronger on self-discipline.
that one is specially not true, everything in a motorbike is cheaper, from insurance to licence plates. Plus with the cheapest car you can buy several motorbikes. Theres just no beating it, its cheaper.
Me too.....only I never gave up Riding and still have a bike now that those kids have now grown up! I started riding as there was no way I could afford to run a car in the 80's and a bike was a cheap form of transport. So much so, that I had a bike as my main form of transport for over 20 years before I even passed the car test and finaly bought one!
Stopped for a coffee over the weekend and a guy about twice my age started chatting to me. Spent about an hour with him talking circuit racing, road racing different bikes, commuting to work and more. Beat sitting there on my own staring at my phone, that’s for sure 👍🏼
My father is from the silent generation/baby boomer generation, somewhere in between there so I know how to talk to older people. It's easy for me. I'm the millennial gen. I see these new kids and they act so uncomfortable and cringe talking to older folks.
@@theenzoferrari458 My hobbies growing up meant I was always around people much older then me. Speaking to my elders never bothered me in fact I came to prefer it due to the maturity of conversation but also the insight. Respect your elders, kids haha
@@VB_31 I drive a V-strom, the sound isn't something to write home about. It also prevents tinnitus by breaking up the road noise. It's not like you can't hear horns and sirens. There a big difference between noise cancelling ear buds and internal speakers. I can hear mostly everything around me still. It would be the same difference as playing music in your car. Music also keeps my brain active and alert by keeping me from being tunnel vision from gaping out on long stretches of highway.
I can confirm the older people that like to talk. That's how it should be though. Meet people, hear stories and enjoy it all. If it wasn't for the bike you wouldn't have met that person. Everybody be nicer to each other.
@@jasonswiatkowski9127 Knowledge is priceless. I miss my old man, one of the few people whose opinion I highly value. One hell of an awesome driver too...
yeah if i'm out for a ride I love talking to the old guys that used to have a bike..usually very friendly and we share a common interest..it's a part of what makes motorcycle riding so great..
My car broke down a couple of months ago, had it at a shop, told my friend how much the repair would cost and he explained to me why that sum was outrageous. So he took me back to the shop, racing the clock and we managed to do a trip of 17 minutes with low traffic in 8. Got off the bike when we arrived and I was shaking and sick to my stomach. And now I want one too 😂
For about 3 years my wife and I were a one bike, one car household. She doesn't ride and was working full time so she had the car pretty much every day. I rode everywhere, rain, hail or shine, went to work, the gym and even did my groceries on the bike. It was a great money saver for us.
I got mine to save on gas and tolls, was about up to 400€ with a very diesel efficient car (BMW 116Ed). Even paying credit for the bike, I'd save about half a month or more. Then the pandemic started before I even had my license, lol, there goes the money saving. But now my dad has my car (he lives in the UK, but pandemic made him stay here for a year now), so we are a one bike, one POS deadbeat car (2002 Peugeot with more broken stuff than I can count). My GF was already a bike rider before I even had a car license, so now we can divide the bike and the POS car, instead of having just one vehicle to get around with, plus making the POS car last longer by putting less kms in it. My bike being a NC700x with a 52L case, I can fit three full bags of groceries between the met-in and the case.
@@sorayaimperial I was on a Honda CBR 500R with a 42L top case. Cheap to run, cheap to insure, cheap to service and reliable as taxes. I miss those days.
@@sorayaimperial I rode a Honda Reflex scooter for years with a top case and saddle bags as well as the underseat storage. People would stop and watch me pack my grocery shopping for the week into it. Even had a couple bet that I couldn't fit all my groceries in. I won ;).
Try that riding a boxer bike in the UK. Every dude over 50 feels the compulsion to come over for a chat and tell you about how much they miss their R1100 or similar. I will say that 90% of the time it turns into a decent and pleasant chat, but more often than not you were just stopping for a quick toilet break!
I think longevity of a motorbike highly depends on the motorbike itself and how well it has been maintained and looked after. When I did my CBT training in the UK, the test centre had Honda CG125’s with 150,000 miles on the clock, driven by learner riders daily. It’s possible for them to last very long but I think careful consideration of the bike, ownership and maintenance from new is essential.
Very true, I own a cg125 myself and it costs all in all £800 for the bike, £500 for insurance and about £7 a week on fuel plus minor maintenance and is the most reliable little run around. Couldn't have made a better decision.
Having a bike to save money in university worked for me, partly. I had a car too, but would remove liability from it during riding season and the bike was half the price to insure. The CBR125 was great on gas in the city, but my Geo Metro actually beat it at highway fuel consumption (and was faster too - a rare thing to say about a Metro). Parking permits on campus were expensive and elusive for cars, but a motorcycle permit was cheap and let you park in more convenient lots (often a widened part of the sidewalk in front of your desired building). Being young and cheap, I skipped much of the riding gear that I now cringe to ride without.
Yeah this pillock clearly doesn't know what he's on about. No one wants to ride a push bike 40 minutes to work when a motorcycle can do it in 10, and cheap at about 80+mpg. Also in my experience I've made friends with women through motorbikes, so thats bollocks. Then emissions, if it uses less fuel then there's more natural resources.
Lol mine hasnt been out of the garage in 2 years.....shame i used to ride it from when the roads didnt have snow on them until they did regardless of tempature.....coldest ride was -28c.
@@silver_YTfps the start of covid was the best time to ride, so much less traffic in lockdown. And gas was cheaper, I would fill up for $7 now it cost $9
Hey if you're not using it can I erm borrow it for 5-6 months 😔 I swear I'll maintain it and give it back to you in better condition And with with a full tank of gas 😬
I actually think getting a motorcycle was one of the best financial decisions I ever made. At the time I only had a truck and a bicycle. The truck was annoying cause I could never find street parking, so I just kept it at home where the battery would repeatedly die on me cause I never drove it. Meanwhile I still had to pay something like $100/mo on insurance. The bike cost more like $30/mo to insure and it did end up lasting me nearly 10 years/(30k miles). It was really useful for the kinds of trips I just never could have made on a bike in a reasonable amount of time. The gas consumption was decent, though not as good as good as it should have been given how much smaller it was compared to a car (no wind tunnel tested body?). Maintenance was pretty cheap too. Unlike a car, there really wasn’t much on the motorcycle I couldn’t figure out how to fix myself.
@whiteAfrikkkanNun I really couldn't disagree more. Try ripping the engine out of a v8 truck.... chances are you can't, don't have a crane to lift the damn thing. I sure as fuck don't. On a motorcycle? Chances are you could lift the engine by hand.
@whiteAfrikkkanNun your argument fell apart and so you react with extreme anger. Congratulations, you've reduced your argument to people who own tractors. I'm sure that's widely applicable.
@whiteAfrikkkanNun No, you speak for yourself. You literally just acknowledged you're speaking from a place of privilege. That other person COMPLETELY has a point and just because your panties are up in a twist doesn't mean they're wrong. It's a PRIVILEGE to be able to work on your engine, even being taught how to do so and being able to use cranes are a privilege. So while you are right that he can work on his truck, the other person is also right about it being a privilege to work on your v8 engine to begin with. Stop being so mad
@whiteAfrikkkanNun Because you get to spend money on that instead of forking it over to your insurances, mortgages, studen loans, etc. Yeah getting to work to play with your toys is a privilege, working to survive is just something everyone has to do though. The moment you get to have any control over what you WANT instead of just what you NEED then you are at a privileged point.
Bikes are actually significantly cheaper in the UK especially for youngsters. I ran a bike every day of the year for years, never had a car - just made it work (like most developing asian countries do). Everyone else was bitching they couldn't afford to save, to buy a house etc. Same £900 bandit 600 parked out in the elements 365 and ridden in temps as low as -10c parked up next to £20,000 cars driven by people my age bitching they can't afford to buy a house.
@@lazthegreat10 Bruh that's nearly a full year of wages for most folks, and a deposit of ~10k is enough to be accepted for a 2 bed starter home mortgage. I bought a brand new bike I actually liked for ~2K, meanwhile the cheapest crappy 2 door car is ~15k. You are also missing the hidden cost of finance, most folk finance cars but just outright buy a bike. For used vehicles that gap is even better as most cars have a huge amount of mileage and issues on them to get cheaper. Also MPG is often double on a bike and all you need is CBT. It's 100% more economical.
In the UK bikes are just flat out cheap and border line free. My bandit I run all year around , my ktm net me 18k savings letting me up my life and go, public transport and cars would both have been a lot lot more expensive.
Is no one gonna talk about how amazing it was that he did this whole video in a poem format while still presenting his argument. The man is a modern day Shakespeare.
First bike I got was a Suzuki TC125. A true barn find, back in the 80s before "barn find" was a thing. I was a poor kid who had to learn how everything worked so I could get it working. No google, didn't know such things as workshop manuals existed and probably wouldn't find anything but confused blank stares if I asked at my small town's library. Got her going and kept her going for years. She's still in my garage although she needs more TLC than I can give at present. She set me up for maintaining vehicles, especially bikes. My other bikes have all gotten well into the 6 figure mark and all in good condition. Only one, a mid-80s Shadow, needed anything significant prematurely, and that was new rings in the first weeks after I got it at around 60,000miles. I have no idea how the PO got them worn without other damage. It's nothing for cruisers to get into 6 figures if they're maintained. If a car's not maintained it won't get there either. I've seen a number of bikes like litre+ CBR's happily get into 6 figures, even with things like ceasing timing chain tensioners. Admittedly my experience is mainly with Honda and Suzuki, and other jab brands. But I cannot see why, unless a bike is thrashed and mistreated it won't last quite a long time. With the price of petrol over here, bikes are far cheaper than cars to run, even factoring in all purchase price, gear, maintenance and registration costs! Of course, lane splitting vs sitting in traffic helps a hell of a lot. As does 1/3rd the engine size hauling less than 1/4 of the weight.
I got a motorcycle in part to save money. It worked out super well! $2800 bike, $100 a year liability insurance, and about $4-8 in gasoline a week (going to school, work, social gatherings, and the odd grocery trip here and there). That was 7 years ago, and while I've also had to put in a few hundred in maintenance, and probably about $2,500 in gear (cost of two full set of gear, my beginner and more premium gear), I've saved quite a lot of money. No regrets.
The small talk if you happen to stop together at a light is a pleasant change of pace these days. Feels way more connected in a way you'd never get just going from point A to point B in a car
its also a great way to get pinned down in Harbor Freight for an hour when you really shouldnt have stopped there in the first place and your girl is steady texting you (this was yesterday - 3 dudes raving over my rebel 250 ratbike I shit you not - one of them DID put the idea in my head of attaching magnesium strips to cars/bikes to shower out sparks while driving/riding, so it wasnt a total loss)
Says my son, "It's all been done And someday you're gonna wake up old and gray So go and try to have some fun Showing warmth to everyone You meet and greet and cheat along the way" Sturgill Simpson
Went for a walk downtown, saw a guy with a helmet, started chatting, came along very well. Turns out that he is a pilot for small aircraft. Now we are planning to do a little trip! I love motorcycle riders🤗
I was a heavy rider in my younger years, putting almost 100k on a CX500... I loved riding! After a couple crashes, becoming a paramedic, working many NASTY crashes where the motorcycle wasn't at fault, I'm actually terrified to ride a motorcycle at this point in my life.
@Socucius Ergalla Unfortunately, no I have not. I count myself lucky to see someone wearing a helmet. The airbag collars and suits do look promising and I am curious as to how well they protect as well.
Last summer, I had what was actually a really delightful conversation in a grocery store parking lot, with a neat little old dude who looked approximately 112 years old. He asked me if my Oldwing was a 650, and was quite impressed by its 1100 cc’s. “I’ll bet it’ll touch 100 eh!” “It certainly will,” I told him. Then he talked about riding across Spain, and parts of Europe after WW2 on a bike who’s brand he couldn’t recall. Sometimes it’s good to give a few minutes of your life to an old timer; they gave up a lot so I can enjoy this quality of life, and they have some really great stories to share.
My good ole '89 Honda CT200 gets the same reaction from the old farmhands, they go on and on about their old paddock basher bikes and how the Hondas went forever. Always nice to find someone who remembers the days way before my parents ever met like it's just yesterday and get another look at the world through different eyes.
Absolutely. That's part of the joy of it all. I once got stranded in a parking lot on my pacific coast. It was cold, tow truck took forever and a half to get there. But, I started conversations with 4 completely different people. Some who were just curious about the bike, a guy who had a beat-to-hell pickup truck that also wouldn't start. An army veteran and his wife, and a guy who wanted to know what the actual hell my pacific coast was. I sipped away at my coffee and enjoyed the conversations, it really brightened my day. Eventually I got a friend to pick me up, but that experience reminded me that there's more than one way to have fun with a bike. Stay safe at there, and be open to new experiences!
@@GameCyborgCh it might work for some, but not most. If anything, most chicks would want you to quit riding. Just finding a woman that willing to accept your hobby is already a big win.
@@joemann7971 my partner just wants to make sure I come home alive haha, otherwise she is accepting of my hobby while at the same time wanting nothing to do with it. That's fine with me, it's good to have independent interests and hobbies.
@@GameCyborgCh If someone gets into riding to "pick up chicks", they are riding for the wrong reasons. But thats the same mentality you see with flashy cars and lifestyles. And you end up attracting the "chicks" you really don't want anything to do with anyway lol
I disagree with that first point. I got into riding because i simply couldn't afford a car at the time and a bicycle was inadequate for my 40 mile commute. I got a really good deal on a cheap bike and it lasted me well through college until i could afford a decent car. A $500 car will absolutely strand you and/or get you fired, but there abound $500 motorcycles that will get you to and from work/school. add a $30 jacket and a $50 helmet plus negligible insurance/ registration and you have a very low barrier for those below the poverty line. Sure i got wet a lot and rarely had any fun, but was able to improve my life and stay out of debt on 2 wheels.
My first way to get around was a motercycle, I have been riding through rain and snow, constintly finding ways to make it work till I couldn't anymore. I have been hit twice, I am part metal. I have wrecked countless times on my own. Too many to count. Yet still here I am, trying to put life back into my motercycle
I was debating whether to ride my motorcycle or drive my car to mine the other day. I ended up taking the car. Guess that statement will remain true for now
Always have the old guys talking about theirs stories. Love them…instant connection with the world..that is a great benefit of riding. Always get better connection on a bike then with a car!
Damn, I hit all three of these... But for real, I'm young, I live in a rural environment, I'm eco-conscious, I'm poor and I'm a lonely lesbian. All that being said, I bought my first bike second hand super cheap from a guy who was moving away and couldn't use it any more, it was poorly maintained and I've sunk almost three times as much as I paid for it into bringing it back to it's former glory. I may have wanted a bike for all the reasons this video says not to, but I always think back to watching my dad put together an old 125 in the back garden when I was young. I think about the motorbike road racing that takes over my country for two weeks ever year, I think about the freedom and the thrill that comes with riding and the responsibility I have when in the saddle. I think about how in looking to ride myself I was able to give riding back to my dad and how we can ride together now and about the stronger relationship we've been able to build because of it. So even if it's marginally cheaper, even if ecologically it's not as bad as a car but still not great, even if I never meet my future partner through riding well... I'm still going to ride, because I want to and in retrospect I've always wanted too. Whatever your reason when you start out, if you enjoy it, if you want to do it, you'll find any reason to keep on going.
The "motorcycle insurance is cheaper" line is absolutely true in the USA for us young unmarried men. I'm 27 with zero accidents on my record. Liability insurance with uninsured motorist coverage costs me around $100 a year instead of $100 a month for the same coverages on literally any four-wheeled road vehicle no matter how safe.
$100 a month is considered dirt cheap up here in the North. $10K+ per year is standard for sportbikes and companies with reasonable rates flat out refuse to insure them.
@@guest426 Yikes. Your literally paying for a new bike every year with those premiums!!!! I pay $150 liability A YEAR, for my 2018 R6 and only like $50 for yearly registration. I was pretty surprised how cheap the rates are. Now if you want full coverage, it's like $120-160 a month, which is still nowhere near 10 grand your quoting. Big yikes.
Or they get, “It was an R6 with a burned out headlight” 😂 I’ve actually seen a police BOLO press release that said that. It said we are looking for a black sport bike with a burned out headlight. I wanted to respond, “Well Edmonton Police, you just described almost all sport bikes.”
I got stopped riding my Norton doing about twice the speed limit and the cop was acting tough until the helmet came off and the gray hair came out. He rolled his eyes and went away to write the ticket.
I live in VA and I work in DC. By car, it takes me 45 min to get to work, on my Tracer GT 12 minutes (Bikes can go on HOV/Easy Pass lanes for free). So yes, it saves me money, time, it helps the environment, and IT'S FUN!
During the summer here in the California Bay area. For years I would get off working overtime at 12:00 noon on Saturday and head home 30 miles to Santa Cruz. Beach traffic back up on the only Mountain Highway would mean 3 hours by car or 50 minutes by motorcycle splitting traffic (legal in Ca.). Which would you chose?
A good friend of mine recently acquired a classic Yamaha Enduro from his late grandfather with less than a 1000 miles on it, original tires, original plates from 50 years ago, etc. The first time he took it out after getting it serviced, I went with him to take photos. Three separate attempted photo locations all were interrupted by elderly men intent on talking my pal's ear off about "the bikes they didn't have." Nostalgia is a drug!
@@njpaddler You’re perfectly safe on old tires, so long as you keep speeds down and don’t push corners hard. Tires don’t magically explode when they reach the ‘Best Before’ date!
I have cut my screen time down by over 50% because I was wasting time watching UTube videos but I will never stop watching this fabulous Canadian from beautiful British Columbia.
Reason number one definitely caught me off guard when I first started 😅 Now I just embrace the expensive and inconvenient but supremely enjoyable motorcycle lifestyle 🤣
as a 64 year old with 2 Victory Motorcycles I am now going to be self conscious about talking to other bikers if I am not riding. for about 40 years my motorcycles have always cost more than any car or truck I owned. I am one of those guys always buying accessories, never ran stock pipes, always trying different tires, endless small mods, changing handlebars, custom paint jobs, etc. Since switching from Harleys to Victory in 2004 I have about 160,000 miles on the Victories and about 18 different length Iron Butt certifications. All while living in Alaska, with a very short riding season. Have made a couple trips to Florida. I am the old guy that always stops when I see a motorcycle and ask about mods, tires, gas mileage, stage 1 kits, always wondering what to try next. Even run a car tire on my crossroads. I have probably annoyed someone watching this video asking questions about their bike.
Too right, as a 63 year old I have been riding since I was 13, done loads of miles, loads of different bikes, raced solos and kneelers, and I make a point of not talking to young riders.
It is ok to be self-conscious. Wait for them to ask. Open up, be friendly, but be ready to duck out. the danger of politeness is that most adults in America have lost the ability to say, "no". Kids are no better.
Greetings from Fairbanks! I'm 71, I got a Honda CB500X three years ago after not riding for nearly 45 years because of a wreck doing crazy sh*t on a bike. Buying that bike was the best thing I've done for myself in decades. I don't do crazy sh*t anymore and my bike is no screamer. But you know what they say: "It is more fun riding a slow bike fast than riding a fast bike slow." Safe riding.
I road a my KLR and saved $2,500 a year. I crunched the numbers to the point where I was comparing tires, brakes, fluids, fuel, and the added cost of gear(along with estimated replacement by time/mileage, Thanks FortNine for that video) 100 miles a day at 45 miles per gallon for 5 days a week, front tire at 10k rear tire chain and sprockets at 20k, clean and lube 2 times a week, factory brakes lasted longer than expected(highway riding) at 20k, did all my own work(I am a mechanic) with the help of my factory service manual.
I completely agree. Besides, I do all my groceries just fine with a top case and luggages and my bike cost me 500 bucks (DL650 from 2005), my father is a mechanic and taught me how to do 90% of the work needed on a bike. Overall, my gear cost me more than the bike itself but still less than getting a car I could restore in the same condition. The bike will last for a while and there's ton of spare parts to make it worth it in the long run. Though, no luck on the chick side of things haha
I have the full SW Motech setup and that is what I used for shopping. Used a soft cooler with ice packs in the summer time here in Texas for cold items. I think is really depends on what your are expecting to accomplish with your motorcycle, and what kind you are looking at. You are not getting a 650 sport bike and using it like a car, maybe a cruiser. But dual sport bikes are the most versatile for this due to the luggage options, you could do it with other types of motorcycles but dual sports just the aftermarket support with luggage options. I have done 500 mile solo road trips with it.
That $2500 value disappears really quickly when you start talking capability. I would easily pay $2500 to have a 4 wheel vehicle. I did 600 miles of 50/50 on/off-roading yesterday in my 4Runner. It rained almost the entire time. I can sleep in a vehicle. I can carry way more. I wasn't getting pissed on. I had a KLR as well. I now have an Africa Twin.
@@someguy5035 I factored that in. I have done 1,000 mile round trip vacation on my KLR. Have you heard of a tent? Also if you are afraid of a little water, how do you bath? Also if I had $2,500 extra for disposable income, and the fact that my car at the time had no cruise control and I have a bad right knee that throbs with pain after holding a gas peddle in one position for more that 10 minutes, I would have been in a car too. But I did not have $2,500 of disposable income, my knee is really bad, and I am not afraid of minor discomfort because I not a wuss.
I agree. I live in Kitchener Ontario, and I got rid of my car. Bicycle for shorter trips and winter, moto for long trips. cars are far more expensive to maintain than bikes.
Would love to see a video on suspension... Finding the right shocks for the kind of ride you want can be very tricky and unclear what and why shocks perform the way they do given various parameters....
"save money" unless you're a courier. went from buying 4gal a day in my reasonable focus to half a gallon. 8x savings (in monetary terms, 8172 a year to around 1021 a year) H&R insurance went from 6k/y third party only to 1k/y fully comp. 6x savings. that alone is a used busa and a grand change sure my maintenance cost went from 200/year to 1200/year, but remember ive saved a busa on the insurance! all in all, saving approximately 11k a year!
I am an old guy who still rides the bike he owned 30 years ago plus a couple of newer ones. When I get approached by someone talking about once having or wishing they had a bike I turn the conversation around and ask them why they don't ride when life is so short.
I still have my first 'real' bike I got 45 yrs ago... a '76 XLCH which I still ride. First bike was a beat up '70 or '71 Honda CB350 that if I had used my head I would never have purchased from this guy. It wasn't even street legal since it was missing its turn lights! With what I had to spend to make it legal and to fix stuff I could have bought a new bike! But it has been a great adventure and I wouldn't change anything. Least not bike wise! lol
On the topic of "once the kids arrived", I know a lot of guys who rode in their thirties but their wives wouldn't allow them to ride because the kids are small and they were worried he might die. A couple of them started riding immediately once the kids turned 18. Kids are also costly to grow and you won't have a shortage of money sinks.
I’m an emergency medicine doctor who has ridden 54 years on over 30 bikes, loved 500,000 miles on 4 continents in all kinds of weather. When one of my patients tries to tell me they’re dangerous, I tell them “most people over 65 consider walking from the bedroom to the kitchen dangerous. I’m going to live the life I love with no regrets.” Fear controls most people’s lives.
To be fair I first got a road motorcycle at 16 and can confirm that at high school and first year of university motorcycles do attract young women. However after that "Dating a boy because Daddy will hate him" loses it's appeal thereafter. That said motorcycling has had an enriching experience on my life, I think. 🙂
I was thinking about getting a CB125F for my daily commute to save on gas, then I remembered I have to buy the all the kit. So now I'll just buy it because I want it and not give excuses 😎
While I must confess that motorcycling has never gotten me a woman, but I will say that one of the key moments early in my relationship was reminiscing about my old motorcycle, like the young idiot I was I had bought an 80’s motorcycle, rode it until the engine broke, fixed it and rode it again until the electric system failed and I couldn’t find the parts or the time. Anyways, we we driving along and I described to her the meaning that suzuki gs450e had to me at that time in my life and talked about the night’s cracking the throttle in third gear, my visor slightly open to taste the crisp air of a midsummer northern Michigan evening. She listened enamored. It is impossible to show the emotion I expressed in that moment but she later told me that was a moment she knew she wanted to spend her life with me, because I was able to express the love and joy and appreciation for existence I had at that time. A motorcycle may not get you a woman, but if you can learn to express your passion and emotion in a meaningful way a woman worth keeping will find that very special.
I bought my first bike 2008. I wanted to save on gas cause i had no money. Today i still ride to save a little money, but now its more because i love the feeling of absolute calculated risk of freedom
I rode a motorcycle through college and beyond to save money. Bungie corded a milk crate to the back and did grocery runs and everything else. In rain or snow I sucked it up, rode carefully, and wished for warmer gear. Even went on a bunch of 500 mile road trips. Insurance was about a fifth of car insurance, and gas mileage was better than any car. It was a Honda CM400 and it was pretty good to me. Plus "want to go for a motorcycle ride?" made for a cheap date
I did buy a type of motorcycle once to reduce expense, and that worked fine for my situation. When I was in the US military, I was stationed in Japan for a couple years. I could easily walk most places on base, and there was good public transportation off base. But I wanted a low-cost vehicle of my own to go exploring at my convenience. So I bought a used moped. I bought the moped from a mechanic and it was in perfect running condition. The moped cost a lot less than a used car, and insurance was almost nothing. The only additional "gear" I bought was a helmet.
Got into motorcycles becuase of my dad. And he said from day 1 this is an expensive kinda dangerous and impractical hobby. Dont think you will get ladies, but you will meet some of the best people this world has to provide.
All that's been my experience with riding for 7 years now. I'd add that it makes the rider a better person also - more self-disciplined, more practical and no-nonsense in thinking, and more deeply confident overall. Your dad was right, it's kinda dangerous, and fairly expensive, being more expensive the more enthusiasm you have for it. You do meet a better quality of fellow human beings, and on more positive terms. I'd compare it to becoming a dog owner, but on the tougher side of things. As for meeting women, that's a myth. For every woman who thinks you're cool to have a bike, there are ten who think you're (probably) immature, undisciplined, and under-employed. The real disappointment comes when you're just being your friendly self with a woman fellow motorcyclist (in a parking lot or wherever). They're not rude, but they're too wary to talk.
I legit saved money in college by purchasing a Yamaha Maxim 400 at a garage sale for $550. I spent another $1,200 for new tires and riding attire and about 40 hours of my own time going through everything on that bike to make sure it was in good working order. It was my first street bike, having just a little bit of experience on dirt bikes and I remember that first ride after I dialed it in (30 years ago!) like a meal ago. I sang Motorcycle by Love and Rockets inside my helmet. The little twin didn't have a lot of power but it had nice short gears and was an absolute hoot on the curvy low speed roads in the Santa Cruz mountains. Insurance was cheap on that bike (not a crotch rocket) and I managed about 50mpg commuting and high 30's on the back roads. It's a miracle I never dumped it on those dozen or so times I stopped by the liquor store and rode home with a 6 pack between my legs on that bike!
Been watching your channel for the better part of a decade now .. FortNine, you're the best MotoVlogger that doesn't Vlog ... Much love my friend (can we be friends?) ...
Yeah ppl say this but I kinda disagree, women just aren't going to come up to you and ask about your bike like a guy will but that doesn't mean they don't peep it. Ofc it's not like that'll make a huge difference in having a chance with them but ultimately it makes you more interesting which means you'll be slightly more attractive to them.
60 is *ancient* ? Hahaha... I'm 67 and ride a sport touring bike that'll get me into the felony zone in less than 4 seconds, and answer questions from younger riders who approach me most often. I tell them to escape their day jobs asap and do some touring because it is truly the spice of life. 😎
@@HPCAT88 Yep Senf, and glad I am. The 60s and 70s era was a great time to be alive. Good music, hot women galore, and much more unregulated freedom than you have today.
Transmission died on the car I was using a while ago so I got a little 50cc moped that is my daily driver, cold weather and rain gear has kept me going pretty good so far as it’s a pretty easy commute to work and local groceries. Working on upgrading to a bike so that I can go a little bit further a little bit faster while still keeping my gas and insurance ($80/year btw) as low as they are. If it’s something that you can make work based on where you are and what you do it’s definitely not the worst way to save money. I can afford new gear every year or two a lot easier than I can afford insurance and gas on a whole car. Plus it’s a lot easier (at least for me) to do my own work on a moped or bike than get down into what’s wrong with the giant block of confusion that is a car engine
@@thatjokerperson7062 youre not an actual rider if you really think just 1500 bucks, stock, no 2. bike is really enough.... also, your bike must be janky asf
In Europe the environmental aspect is slightly more true I'd say tho, you don't stop moving when traffic gets congested bc we're allowed to filter through traffic in specific conditions so in the end you burn less gas idk
@@SwainixFPV the quality of exhaust is just so much worse for bikes in the day to day, that it does not make a difference. If you'd go for similar emissions quality as in a car, the bike would be a dog to ride.
I would personally argue that in the United Kingdom a motorcycle is definitely a cheaper option, this is mostly because of our licensing in that you can only get a 125cc at 17 but the insurance is extremely cheap monthly or annually and you can get a reasonably long lasting machine for a approximately £995 or $1200 USD as you mentioned however, kit is a different story as I spent £180 on a helmet which is about $220 USD. On the other hand this is far cheaper than the £1000 minimum for a quality car added with the costs of driving lessons and tests. Not to mention the much higher insurance and cost of other legal requirements such as a more expensive MOT and labour fees for fixing a car. So in my personal opinion, a motorcycle is a cheaper option, depending on where you live, and adding the sacrifice you mentioned such as storage. If you read this far, have a great day or night :)
my three reasons: 1. I hate public transport 2. I don't want a car 3. I'm getting too old to do a hundred miles in a day on a bicycle. Not in the list but close behind are the day trips, occasionally multi-day trips, and the aftermarket parts and gear I've bought: two helmets, body armor, leg armor, two pairs of boots, three pairs of gloves, Bolt Sold Secure gold lock and half inch square chain, alarm disc lock, ground anchor, all for change out of £450. I've got the full suite of tools in my garage carried over from my 42+ years building, fixing, and riding pushbikes.
@@GreenMntMoto When you have a well know high end brand, it will only attract women who thinks it is expensive. You know the type. But a T100, eye popping!
There is an old dude round the corner who on a rainy day opens his garage to show off his motorcycle collection, on a sunny day he wheels them out on to his drive. I think in the hope someone will stop and talk to him. I really should stop and talk to him.
I have a motorcycle as a woman, and dudes my age dont even talk to me so I can relate! Its the older guys like the video coming up and asking the year of my bike and telling me they used to ride lol
but isnt it better like this? women often get annoyed at random dudes talking to them for no reason i ride a bicycle and in my parents home city i often get called by kids and brats who want to know if i want to sell mine and it's annoying really when i started riding my bike, i get tailed by one motorcyclist who talked me while riding in a curve and it was dangerous asking about where i bought it and what price
Last month I had just gassed up and stretching and relaxing before continuing home. A young lady on a sport bike stopped for gas. I'm at least 25 years older and said, "Nice day for a ride." She gave me a sour look and said, "Leave me alone." I backed off, walked to the next pump island, donned helmet and gloves, fired up Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic and putted away. Funny thing I saw her waive in my rear view mirror. Too bad.
@@mongosafariadventure she assumed that everyone who says hi to her gonna start some lame convo and try to hit on her i can relate, when it comes to kids asking if i want to sell my bicycle or younger guys asking if i want to sell my motorcycle but i if they ask for info about my motorcycle i feel happy to talk, just annoyed how everyone assume you want to sell it i think girls get asked too much or flirted on too much that it rubs them the wrong way
the endining with the old man...Man i felt you!My father is a biker and the love for the bikes comes from our first ride(yamaha rd 350lc),since then i always thinking about motorcycles...BUT the lack of understanding that bikes are not the same as used to be,in performance handling and safety..He will never understand and when we talk about that he is going me crazy!!RUN Ryan!
I got a bike as my daily because I had dirt bike experience and it's all I could afford. Years later and I could afford a car but I just ended up switching from sport bike to adv for comfort and capability. Driving a cage feels like something I have to do while riding is something I get to do. Be safe everyone!
@cedrick I'm a motorcycle guy, a car guy and a truck guy, and I'll tell you that any motorcycle, even small displacement ones are fun to ride. Where as with cars, only sporty cars are fun to drive. Trucks and body-on-frame SUVs are usually boring but they can be very fun if you off-road them or go overlanding but they are sooo much more expensive than a dual sport or ADV bike for that purpose. Motorcycles are the most fun for the money in my opinion.
I don't know about Motorcycles, but in college I had a small, cheap 50cc scooter. It was about $500 new from Amazon, it cost $80/year to insure, filled my 1.5 gallon gas tank once a week (with a 40 mile daily commute; 5 days a week), and with a 150cc big bore kit, 40mph was a breeze. I still have it and the odometer reads just a little more than 25,000 miles.
If I only had $1 for every old guy (older than me) that comes up to me talking about the bike he ‘used to have’ or the friend/relative that was killed/injured on one.
I'd have been rich 35 years ago if I had $1 every time I heard "You're gonna kill yourself on that thing." ...now that I'm old, no one says that to me any more.
Usually it is the old ladies telling me I'm gonna kill myself on it, and their husbands mumbling something about how he misses the bike he sold when he met her.
If honest, if I had $1 for every old guy that has come up to me over the years.... I might have 10 or 11 bucks. It really isn't the epidemic everyone in the comments seems to be making of it. That said, I am pretty much anti-social, so anyone walking up to me while I am minding my business, getting ready to roll, is a pain. I'll entertain it for a moment and then just tell them straight up that I have to get going.
I bought a Honda VFR to save money and find parking. I soon realized I found another passion. VFRs last longer than some cars and motorcycles are practical all year round if you live in a good spot ;)
Guy, I am not a rider. I am just looking now at an EMB for fun and cheap go around. Even still, I cannot deny you make great entertaining videos. Consider me subscribed. Please consider a few more EMB to expand the market.
One of the reasons I bought a motorcycle was to sabe money, on the daily commute... So far it has been working out fine! I save money and time (I can arrive home almost one hour earlier before having my CB)
That lane splitting used to save me a ton of time. Not sure it every did save me money though because I paid a lot more for my motorcycle than I did for my reliable old Honda commuter.
If you buy specific bikes, you can save money, especially if you cut your car insurance a bit. Just don't expect to on a $40,000 Harley or a Ducati or whatever. A CB is a perfect commuter bike.
@@PaulGuy I have a 2019 CB300R. Insurance is 88€ anually It doesn't pay anual vehicle tax (in Portugal, below 350cc you are exempt) Dealer anual maintenance is 65€
Maybe it's because my father raised me on motorcycles but I feel deep, profound joy even just from sitting on a bike and feeling the cool metal of the gas tank beneath my fingers, the mechanical click of the key turning the ignition. I can't imagine life without being able to go on a ride at least once in a while
Honda Super Cub 125 and CB125F are the few motorcycles that get below 1.8l/100km mileage. And they cost significantly less than cars. The insurance is horrible though. But there is no mandatory annual inspection, and no vehicular tax at least here. The real issue is: you will want a car regardless, at least for winter. So the only reason to get a motorcycle is to just enjoy the ride, and maybe spend a little less on fuel while doing it, having less issues for parking, and being able to off-road trails and stuff where a car just wouldn't fit.
1975 CB 750s, 350s, 200s and even 125s are still rolling and many look and ride like they did in 1978 with a couple years of use. GL500s and up seem to last forever. Insurance is dollars a month on those basic riders too, often less than 10. Mine is $5.50 a month basic liability and comp, since the bike is so old they would only hand me $1000 if I totalled it...no collision.
Motorcycles are more of a daydream topic for me. I don't know if I'll ever get one, but the thought of having a near silent one with a storage cube behind where I sit, kind of like the Trail 125, then driving home at 5 a.m. after filling the cube with apples or whatever is a really chill thought. Especially if there aren't any other vehicles on the road. I think about that situation a lot.
I ride for my mental health. Unlike every single therapist and psychiatrist I've ever talked to, the motorcycle actually helps, and since I'm in the US, it's cheaper. Plus, for some reason, there is a huge stigma around mental health issues. Not as much of a stigma around motorcycles. Insurance for bikes in the US isn't that expensive, I have insurance on two bikes, one of them comp and collision, and I pay less than $400 a year. What seems to cost a lot of money compared to a car is tires, especially if you have something like my DR650 that eats back tires about once every oil change. Doesn't matter if it's a $50 Shinko or a $200 Metzler, that tire is done in 5,000 miles on my DR. A more typical street bike will wear tires down slower, but still not as slow as a car. Gas mileage is almost a wash depending on the bike and the car. I used to have a Street 500 that got 60 mpg on the highway, but a Prius can approach that. I had a Suzuki Intruder 1400 that got about 40 mpg, and a clapped out old Civic could get that kind of mileage.
"But a motorcycle with 6 figures on the clock will be absolutely shot" Laughs in BMW with 150k on the odo But yeah really depends on the bike and how you drive it. A bike designed to be used a daily will rack up a lot of highway miles and keep doing that a loooooong time.
Maybe not in North America, but where I'm from, around 50 years ago men started riding those 2 stroke 50 and 70cc motorcycles. They used them for everything. To go to work, to go shopping, to go out on the weekends. To this day I know many and see a few more who still use the same motorcycles for their daily commute.
Disagree with the first point on saving money unless you're deciding between a motorcycle and a car, unless you don't already own a car and also need a car to carry more than your significant other and plenty of luggage or groceries. For those that can make do with small luggage and one passenger, or for people that already own a car, then I think buying a motorcycle can save money. Less upfront cost (even with starting gear), less maintenance cost, less on insurance, and even less on gas. If I'm wrong for some reason, do tell, but saving money is one of the reasons I want a motorcycle. I'll use my motorcycle most of the time and my car when I need to take my mother in law, friends, or brings lots of luggage on a resort style vacation trip. Anyway, this is more of an ancillary reason, but do tell me if I'm wrong somehow. My main reasons are being able to cut through traffic and having fun. Every day on my commute to work I see a motorcyclist whizz by me to cut through deadlock. Eventually, "I need a motorcycle" verbally fell out of my mouth and I decided to get one at that moment.
A motorcycle will put a smile on your face, and that my fellas is priceless. :) Great vid as always Ryan, love the blend of long full blown documentaries, mixed with the little skits like this
A new, non-luxury car midpoint price is $43,000. A new motorcycle can be had for $5,000 to 9k for a good midline bike. That stated: $500 for a helmet $500 for a good winter riding jacket $250 summer riding jacket $250 boots. $250 gloves (winter) $80 gloves (summer) $250 riding pants $100 rain gear $100 heated grips Annnnd depending on the model of your bike, tires every 10,000 miles (16,000km). $300 to $500 So, technically… still around or under $10k if you’re not buying a power bike or a status symbol. Just two wheels to get around on. Which means, if you can get through the winters, you just saved $30,000. I ran a bike for seven years (no car). That said, MUCH easier in the city. Rural, it seems you always need stuff that isn’t gonna fit on your bike.
that old guy comment is so true for me, with my roadbike being a '78 cx500. anywhere i go someone will comment that they used to have one. Also on the money saving... i couldnt really claim that one... since I have 3 bikes. doesnt quite save me money
Yeah, I get stopped at gas stations all the time by guys wanting to talk about the bikes they used to ride. I had one girl interact with me because of the bike - it was at 90mph on the highway, and she accelerated beside me and beckoned for me to follow her. It was also my very first day on said bike (2020 Superduke GT), and I was seconds away from my exit to go back home to my wife. Truthfully, the girl probably just wanted to talk to me about my car's extended warranty, so I don't know if the story even counts.
I dont even ride bikes, I might not ever (although this channel is slowly changing that), but I appreciate how this channel gets critical of its own hobby/lifestyle. Cool sweater too.
He's being realistic.. which I appreciate. If I could i'd own every form of transportation on the planet but $$ and space. I currently use a bicycle, e-bike and car (for distance and cargo).. I could do a motorcycle again but can't justify the insurance. Depending on your circumstances I'd suggest at least giving a motorcycle a try, it's still the best option for stretching gas vs distance and unlike a car it really connects you to the world around where you drive, and of course that feeling of freedom and speed.
I first bought a motorcycle as in the UK its so expensive to get a car at the age of 17 even when you factor in the bike, the gear and insurance a bike is just cheaper. I carried on owning/riding motorcycles even though I now have a car as its clears my head and help's my state of mind. For most owning a motorbike is a frame of mind you can't put a cost on.
You should definitely respect your older Riders and look up to them for keeping the Spirit Alive so you can enjoy it in your generation. I will always have an open ear and a few minutes to listen to an older person's motorcycle story.