3 Levels Of Melodies - NOOB vs PRO vs GOD 

Not just sometimes, but pretty much always, almost every viral song has a simple melody

Yeah

@@Astro_retired yea a simple melody can help your brain remember it.

@@Astro_retired dont complicate it makes sense here

I think using both complex and simple melodies in a song is the best option because using only simple melodies can make the song repetitive.

You just haven’t ascended yet

honestly i think the base melody for the pro one is just better

I think it depends on the style ... Pro one goes perfect with a more repetitive style like Slap House or Brazilian Bass... The God one definitely fits a more complex one like Electro Swing or Melodic Dubstep I would say

@@jonathanridinger2208 I'd like to say that melodic dubstep doesn't need this much complexe rhythm of notes. Most of the time, the notes will be long to support the length of the chord rhythm, but that's just my opinion

A melody doesn’t need a lot of effort to be good

Same

Yea,I think that is most nice to listen

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Yeah beacause this video mean nothing, it’s full bullshit, he is just adding more instruments in the god version + you don’t need to know how to make very complicated midi melodies to do a good sound, a lot of real famous bangers are simple loops.

super alan walker/NCS esq

Dont worry your ear gets smarter after a while

@@nikolozparulava3169 I'm 40. It's all down hill from here

jazz.

Which is why I think the 2nd level sounded the best and more pleasing.

Surprise Surprise it's DUBSTEP🔥😂

The disonnance at the beginning of the god melody also doesn't do it for me

@@Whysp You're exactly right

@@Whysp that's on purpose but yeah

@@wobblestone3148I get that it's on purpose but it just doesn't work for me.

@@Whysp maybe the god melody sounds better with other instruments but I understand you

first thing i thought of tbh

and an outtro being a softer variation of all 3

@@carltonsmith4750 lol

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Actually, that isn't a bad idea.

electronic trance music 101: noob with hi pass filter for 4 bars noob with hi pass opened for 8 bars impact sound with white noise 4 bars while pro builds first drop with pro opened up with some different varieties of notes 8 bars lull for 8 with noob build with pro second drop with Godmode engaged 3 minutes of the drum track to bleed into the next one

Actually, I think that the god melody works the best for tropical house

Fatrat vibes 😇❤️

Lmao

they all sound like that tbh

holy shit you’re right

what the pro songs name? sorry for asking

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@@pawoxesports6105he made that on the spot no official name I don’t think

@@randoman9122 that was used on so many peoples back ground song remember?

@@pawoxesports6105 oh I didn’t know 😅

Layout a chord progression first, as a beginner it's probably best to stick with simple chords, like triads, diminished, or 7ths, rather than the more complex ones, 9ths, sus2, sus4, 11ths, diminished 7ths, augmented 7ths. Then you can either do bass or melody first, but melody is usually better to create first. Making a melody is pretty much just experimenting, but as a beginner you can just use the notes from the chords like in the video, (but that can get old fast).

@@displayclayton3407 thank you :)

@@displayclayton3407 sometimes the melody comes first and then the harmony

@@handel671 Yes, I agree. Harmony is almost always made after the melody since it acts as an accompianate. Though, I should have mentioned harmony in my first reply, because it is very important.

When you create a melody you create a chord progression behind it as well. Your basic chords will follow on each root note change of your melody. From there you can really mess with where chords change and such adding bass etc

Same

So wake me up when it's all over!

RIP

I agree it's much more to it than shown in this video. Regarding your criteria, I just thought criteria such as catchiness & rememberability were too subjective. Your other criteria do make sense though. The reason I progressed the levels with complexity was because it's easy to see and hear objectively that it gets more advance. Even though of course, each level doesn't necessarily get catchier or sound better, but that's to each their own.

Yes! Just keep it simple!

Songs with the best rhythms and melodies have over a billion views on RU-vid, but do you think 1.7 billion unique people listened to Linkin Park's Numb? In reality, only as far as 100 million unique people saw the video, but the replayability and memorability of the song kept them coming back - so multiple 100 million by 10, and that's how it got so many views. Of course, this is not meant to suggest that everybody listened to it exactly 10 times; mileage will vary. But that's how a great melody is made - because people can remember it. When you ask a friend to rate one of your songs, don't ask them if they like it. They'll obviously say yes (especially if they're not musicians). Ask what they remember the most listening to it.

@@hotel_arcadia I never thought of looking at it that way. Thanks.

Barely any music creators use any more than the bare minimum music theory, anyways.

Man if u want to make better music just trust your inner sense and go with it

If I understand you correctly, that would be interesting af :O

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Good luck with your career!

Wdym, you just play with your toes brah

and a g sus chord

i come brazil but pls first u send me all ur best flps for free i need for learning porpose only i promise

Yeah, simplicity is also godlike

honestly, i think just the 3rd bar of god level was weird. like the 4th bar seems to lead pretty good into the 1st bar but obviously it's very subjective

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@@grantcanty7294 it is supposed to feel a bit "strange", to spice things up. I believe it's taking the melody into the relative minor scale or something like that. The leading tone is also syncopated, meaning that, in theory, that second note should've been shorter and the third one should've been longer, but they swapped their duration, giving it more energy.

yeah exactly what I was thinking ! it sounds like Japanese edm!

it's coming, eventually, soon, very soon, eventually, hopefully

@@Memphy can't wait for it :)

Bro There's A Song Called "Stay" By Memphy!!

I heard it before, it's very nice he needs people to hear his songs and get his fame like martin garrix

@@Memphy I'm not hopefull though, because all your music sounds like existing music..

It's not noob actually. It's just simple. Sometimes simple is more effective than complicated

@@maximevanraemdonck1712 yess i liked the pro verison more than the god level,, but the thing is i am noob now 😥 it will take time ....

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Get a life

Tl;dr Music theory is a descriptive practice, not a prescriptive one. True, for western functional harmony, and maybe just as so for this specific video's style of music. The music theory that is widely known and taught in music schools is for common practice period music -- Even just staying in English culture there is different theories/analysis/systems for the idea of music, some Jazz, rock, blues, metal; to post-tonal theory with schenkerian analysis, transformational theory, set theory (music), microtonality, xenharmony, to name a few if you would like to research more into it. And that's not even touching other cultures of Mongolian, Middle Eastern, Bulgarian, Indian, to which I know nothing about myself. Just remember that music is just… art. You can really do whatever you want, i.e. if it sounds good then it sounds good. Quote from Harry Partch (?): Music, "good" or not "good," has only two ingredients that might be called God-given: the capacity of a body to vibrate and produce sound and the mechanism of the human ear that registers it. These two ingredients can be studied and analyzed, but they cannot be changed; they are the comparative constants. All else in the art of music, which may also be studied and analyzed, was created by man or is implicit in human acts and is therefore subject to the fiercest scrutiny, and ultimately to approval, indifference, or contempt. In other words, all else is subject to change.

@@tauntos Oh yeah I know this. My music teacher taught me that there are no rules in music. There's no formula. Music theory is just there to help you, not tell you what to do. I recommend to go to Ian Ring's website and you'll be able to find all 3000+ scales which is every single note combination. Music theory is just there to help you with what sounds you want

@@chopholtz4950 HOLY CRAP HOW MUCH DID YOU WRITE

@@chopholtz4950 Maybe record what you play using a smart phone or other recording device. Then you don't need to remember it and you won't lose your songs.

it was the opposite for me haha it's great

maybe the god version played on a piano with more velocity sensitivity could work though? here everything is kinda hit with the same strength so maybe it doesn't do it justice for me on the piano only version

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you could say its 'insame'

@@R4M_Apex_GT xDDD

NAH you mean noob vs pro vs TEVVEZ

@@atrov7817 not really sure because i don't know alot of tevvez tunes tbh

@@icecoldtristan6434 check him out then

Honestly Chop, I was pretty fair to this video in my original post. Even as a starting point for a beginner this still gets beginners off to a bad start because instead of teaching them this, you could instead teach them some very basic ideas about rhythm and cadence and that would put them in a far better position to write enjoyable and unique music from the very beginning. On the contrary, this video doesn't really show a beginner how to compose music as such, it just shows them how to compose the same one song over and over again in a way that has already been done a million times before. Just because someone's a beginner, that's no reason for why they should be seeking to write identikit and uninteresting music from the beginning. Generally, you don't learn how to write enjoyable and unique music by learning how to write cookie cutter music first, you learn how to write enjoyable and unique music by learning about it bit by bit and composing as you go along.

@@riffmason I'm not particularly advanced but I have made a small handful of good tracks, have like 2 years of production experience and 6 of DJing. It gave me a different perspective on melody writing, because that pro one sounds pretty darn good while still just being a one-bar melody with some variation attached to it. I usually find that I go too complex a lot of the time, it can definitely be good to keep it simple and formulaic, especially if you want to go for something catchy.

@@LillyAnneMeadows Hi, I only took issue with simplicity in the context that this video was advertising the composition in the video as being 'God level' composition as if it was somehow expert composition writing which I thought was misleading. Really my problem isn't simplicity but the issue of being formulaic which I did then discuss. As good as you might think the pro example sounds (which I don't being completely honest), it is a problem for producers to make music this formulaic because the issue they will then have is that their music just isn't going to stand out and is going to sound boring and generic. If a producer makes a song so formulaic that it sounds exactly like other songs that have been done by other producers over and over again already, then why even bother listening to that producer when I could just listen to plenty of other producers instead?

Like you're not wrong, but dude haha. Like it is complex, depending on view amongst other things. Taking the base of everything away, listening to the overall sound link like strings with subtle hooks. Like the sound is complex regardless of how 'generic' it is. And you do realise you sound like you have like the biggest ego Like you think you are super smart for knowing some music stuff lmao - not trying to be provocative but damn dude. And like for the last comment you sent, like yeah you're not wrong, but its taught with a generalized meaning. Like its not to teach what to do for your entire melody, its advice and tips let alone not the point of the video, but he decided to add tips and advice because hes a GC. Not 'do this 4 times, copy paste use for everything song complete' I never got the rigid and formulaic feeling because creativity isn't meant to be constricted with those types of things, but its a very good generalized base to start from. You have seen this too much from a literal and specific view point. Like you expected to see more complexity of a type that you know, rather than in a way you might not think, your too literal and wrong in many ways as you are right. He was being general and you took it literally, like dude. You're quite tunnel visioned thought wise, I do hope you come to work through that - truly.

@@riffmason Like "whY iSNt THis A pRopPER BegGinERs TuTOriAL!?"

wops lol