He is absolutely correct in stating the problems with neet. But giving admission on basis of school marks is much more problematic. That would open doors to corruption and also board marks are evaluated by different teachers which adds to a lot of subjectivity, the same answer may fetch you 3 out of 5 marks or 5 out of 5 marks depending upon the teacher.
Before NEET people were getting admission based on their board exams So people who whose parents were labourers were also able to go to govt school study for boards and get good marks and get a medical seat After NEET the same person who got good marks in their boards didn't get a medical seat because he didn't get the qualifying marks They didn't get neet cut off coz they don't have the money or resources to go for coaching institute and prepare for NEET This is based on a real incident where a person in TN got 97 percent in board exams but didn't get a medical seat because they didn't qualify in NEET Now you tell me how is this justice
Ok bro if what you are telling is true then why have NEET in the first place I am telling this because there are many cases when we have seen students getting 95+ percentage in boards Where as they are not able to crack NEET A guy who can get 95+ in boards is definitely not a average joe I do agree boards have a significant pattern and mugging up part But still it's not like doctors without NEET were bad TN was no 1 in producing great doctors without any kind of entrance exams In fact they actually had an entrance exam from engineering in TN till the 90s which was removed later That did not cause any bad effect in particular to the engineering colleges or students in TN I am not saying tn engineering college are best or something, but they definitely aren't bad is what I have seen in the large scheme of things Ps: this is my opinion nothing against a political party or group as such , if u have a valid counter I am ready to take the inputs. Do tell
Yes but different states have different boards for eg cbse board gives more marks relative to my state board. In that case none of my state board students can get into MBBS
@@ShivaGanesh271 97 Percent is scored by two dozens people in the same batch of a school. So will they all get MBBS seat? That way you will ask jobs for IAS/ IPS should be given based on the marks scored in graduation degree?
@@Nikhilkumar-on8vgIAS or IPS is not Four years or five years course to study. It is an eligibility test for Job... NEET is eligibility test for study? Does test require before study or before getting post?
2023 1st rank was from Villupuram, a smaller town in TN, studied in state syllabus school. All he did was just hard work with full dedication and conviction, as simple as that. He has also clarified in the interview that state syllabus is good enough to study and understand the concepts, and he also didn't attend any coaching classes. 4 students from TN are in top 10 ranks this year.
Before NEET people were getting admission based on their board exams So people who whose parents were labourers were also able to go to govt school study for boards and get good marks and get a medical seat After NEET the same person who got good marks in their boards didn't get a medical seat because he didn't get the qualifying marks They didn't get neet cut off coz they don't have the money or resources to go for coaching institute and prepare for NEET This is based on a real incident where a person in TN got 97 percent in board exams but didn't get a medical seat because they didn't qualify in NEET Now you tell me how is this justice
Ok bro if what you are telling is true then why have NEET in the first place I am telling this because there are many cases when we have seen students getting 95+ percentage in boards Where as they are not able to crack NEET A guy who can get 95+ in boards is definitely not a average joe I do agree boards have a significant pattern and mugging up part But still it's not like doctors without NEET were bad TN was no 1 in producing great doctors without any kind of entrance exams In fact they actually had an entrance exam from engineering in TN till the 90s which was removed later That did not cause any bad effect in particular to the engineering colleges or students in TN I am not saying tn engineering college are best or something, but they definitely aren't bad is what I have seen in the large scheme of things Ps: this is my opinion nothing against a political party or group as such , if u have a valid counter I am ready to take the inputs. Do tell
@@ShivaGanesh271just to inform u after the entrance exam was cancelled in engineering , there are colleges every little area and gets crowded up with students with less quality hence reducing the quality of engineering itself and leads to taking movies velai illa pattadhari which poses a thought that engineering does not provide u jobs,we do not want the same done to the doctors
@@ShivaGanesh271why does the government go against neet can't they provide quality coaching in government schools? Learn to face problems not shape it to easy things... Life is not as easy as it seems buddy,.
Before NEET people were getting admission based on their board exams So people who whose parents were labourers were also able to go to govt school study for boards and get good marks and get a medical seat After NEET the same person who got good marks in their boards didn't get a medical seat because he didn't get the qualifying marks They didn't get neet cut off coz they don't have the money or resources to go for coaching institute and prepare for NEET This is based on a real incident where a person in TN got 97 percent in board exams but didn't get a medical seat because they didn't qualify in NEET Now you tell me how is this justice
Why DMK is not opening free coaching centres for the so called poor and underprivileged, just like AIADMK was providing free meals. All political drama in the name of poor and underprivileged. The country can't afford to compromise quality when it comes to Healthcare. Let the DMK politicians don't get treatment from other doctors, except so called products from poor and backward background...
You don't understand the basics of NEET, it is good for students who get marks good enough to get government seats, other than that, it is all based on how much you can pay...
might as well close the schools and start coaching classes. Me a senior medical academician, do not see any difference in the quality of students before and after NEET at any level from UG to super speciality from academic point of view. NEET is some thing that is not needed at present and it has not done any real good
People of TN built an ecosystem of medical Colleges for TN students to become doctors. They paid the tax to fund their government colleges since formation of TN, so that economically and socially weaker sections of the society can become doctors. Now, why don't other states build their own medical colleges instead of NEET coaching institutes?
Tamil nadu is the medical hub of india they have every right to question and oppose. Tamil Nadu developed their medical College and north indians will come and occupy those seats
NEET ONLY ULTIMATE FOR TRANSPARENCY. IF ANY STATE GOVERNMENT HAVING THAT MUCH LOVE ON STUDENTS, GIVE SPECIAL COACHING FROM INTERMEDIATE 1ST YEAR ONLY_ JAI SHREE KRISHNA.
Before NEET people were getting admission based on their board exams So people who whose parents were labourers were also able to go to govt school study for boards and get good marks and get a medical seat After NEET the same person who got good marks in their boards didn't get a medical seat because he didn't get the qualifying marks They didn't get neet cut off coz they don't have the money or resources to go for coaching institute and prepare for NEET This is based on a real incident where a person in TN got 97 percent in board exams but didn't get a medical seat because they didn't qualify in NEET Now you tell me how is this justice
There is too much nonsense in this argument. Lets Clarify : 1. The 12th education system in TamilNadu is a excessively corrupt and arbitary system. They marks are given by the subjective opinion of the teachers and objective retake is not possible leading to large dissattisfied students. 2. Talented people are arbitarily reduced of their marks and the premium talent goes unrecognised. These talents are left to the mercy of the Private college mafia which collect HUGE capitation fee. Incidentally, these colleges are largely owned by the DMK politicians(and other parties) which gave them free access to loot of the middle class people in the name of education. These talented people who can't memorize and don't have money sometimes commit suicide which is conviniently ignored by these politicians. 3. Also, it meant that the private institution can admit anyone with as little marks as possible if the person if okay to pay the huge medical capitation. Today, NEET ensures a minimum merit for the medical admission. 4. The entire Tamil Nadu exam is based on "memorize and vomit" on the paper. This is to an extent that even problem solving questions didn't even change their numericals values. So, we used to just memorize the steps and final answer to get the full marks. 5. Coaching were always a part of the TN education system. Famed residentials schools charged lakhs of money and used to run mills by making 100s of student memorize things all day long. Namakkal schools, SRV were prime examples. So, coaching industry has always been there. 6. TN board essentially isolated the students to pursue central insitutions like AIMS. Look at the number of tops doctors of India coming from such TN Boards. With NEET, every student has equal accesss to premier institutes. 7. While TN has invested hugely in creating more and better medical colleges, it is no thanks to the educational system. Objective research into this field would be of merit. 8. It is true that with NEET necessitates a modern problem solving approach for the entrance exams. The government needs to take responsibilty and provide that support instead of dumbing it down into dirty politics. 9. Look the modern world, lets see if there is one country in the modern democracy that relies on just "memorize and vomit" format a in modern schooling system to create the nextgen students. Most of them are problem solving based approaches including the screening tests in corporates and graduate schools abroad. NEET is not perfect and it requires improvement, but the old "memorize and vomit" system is a very dark, regressive and corrupt idea which has the blood of a lot of talented students. 10. Today, Tamil Nadu has among the highest number of students passing NEET with a lot of them from government schools also. This will only get better if we don't get into separatist politics but into developing the reach of education system!
Politicians please don't interfere in education system because this entrance test is cleared by many students to get good college,and these students belong to poor and rich family both.many students are still who belongs to good family but they are not able to clear neet but in other hand we see,s that many students who belongs to poor family but cleared neet exam and got their aim
Before NEET people were getting admission based on their board exams So people who whose parents were labourers were also able to go to govt school study for boards and get good marks and get a medical seat After NEET the same person who got good marks in their boards didn't get a medical seat because he didn't get the qualifying marks They didn't get neet cut off coz they don't have the money or resources to go for coaching institute and prepare for NEET This is based on a real incident where a person in TN got 97 percent in board exams but didn't get a medical seat because they didn't qualify in NEET IN TODAY'S SCENARIO LETS ASSUME TWO CANDIDATES WITH GEN CATEGORY one guy gets 529who is poor and other gets 149 and is rich Let's consider the cut off for govt seat as 550 Now the elegibility for getting a medical seat is 120 In this case when private colleges charge hefty fees like 50L -60L Obviously the poor guy can't join and he quits while the guy with 149 marks just because he is rich gets the seat Now you tell me how is this justice Ps: him being rich is not a problem , I am not against people being rich , it's their talent and etc that is fine But I think the govt should standardise the fees for all colleges It's not like the human body that you learn in your private institution is different from a govt college Govt may increase the fees for private college but it should be reasonable
I don’t understands this dmk idiots saying syllabus is different in cbse. The syllabus is exactly the same: for example Take physics : newtons laws of motion, force, acceleration, work done, electrostatics, current etc… the syllabus is exactly the same. If you take organic chemistry also the prescribed topics are the same. The only difference is whether the qs are application based or reproduction of text book based that makes the difference between cbse and an starboard. Regarding coaching centres: the tn state govt teachers get paid much more than the teachers in coaching centres ( I really mean this) why can’t these teachers coach the students for neet? Obvious reason: they are not qualified enough (due to heavy reservation and corruption in govt teacher appointments) now govt doesn’t want to fix that. Instead remove any qualification exam!!
Before NEET people were getting admission based on their board exams So people who whose parents were labourers were also able to go to govt school study for boards and get good marks and get a medical seat After NEET the same person who got good marks in their boards didn't get a medical seat because he didn't get the qualifying marks They didn't get neet cut off coz they don't have the money or resources to go for coaching institute and prepare for NEET This is based on a real incident where a person in TN got 97 percent in board exams but didn't get a medical seat because they didn't qualify in NEET Now you tell me how is this justice
then according to this guy each state is gonna conduct their own entrance exam, and its gonna be a chaos for a student to write those many exams to get into other state's medical college. I just don't get the reason why TN always want to exclude themselves from the country's normal routine.
thats true - mk's govt a couple of decades ago dumbed down the state syllabus that was actually in good std. after that the rot set in. govt teachers were paid stupidly high salaries for teaching crap syllabus and kids were chased only for marks and ranks. 10th and 12th kids will skip most of 9th and 11th syll and start mugging for the public in 9th/11th. the toppers actually are bright but products of poor teaching, so they didnt learn much. still, thats no excuse for union govt to grab all more advanced states' college infra &our kids' seats to benefit poorer states' cbse students.
It is an excuse to get less qualified candidates from Tamilnadu to get admission.How another child acquires knowledge should be the criteria for selection? For example worst states for education( as per popular belief) BIHAR OR ORISSA may have largest winners in IAS OR IPS .IF COACHING EXPENSES is the hurdle( reservation for, not so rich students?) why can't state government CONDUCT COACHING CLASSES OR INCRESE OR MODIFY SYLLABUS OF CURRENT EDUCATION? ATTITUDE IS SIMPLE.I AM FROM TAMILNADU.SO EVEN IF I DO NOT PERFORM EQUALLY I WANT MYSELF TO BE SELECTED AT ANY COST. LANGUAGE..FINANCIAL LEVEL.. POLITICS..CASTE DIFFERENCES anything will be raised to achieve that end? Thank God, students of tamilnadu do not ask for admissions to be reserved proportionate to geographical area or density of Tamil population or history of spoken language.
The reason is simple. No other means of employment in Bihar. So they are forced to study only for government exams. We have whole world to employ us. Tamilnadu alone has significantly huge industrial sector to provide employment for all of us. Upsc is just one of the options for a career
How that largest number of IAS and IPS winners helped bihar so far? No educated bihari wants to stay in bihar, they don't want to build anything on their own ,they just want grab seats in other state
@@rajarajan5040 Do not deflect the issue by bringing capability of a state to employ its youth. Question is on why Tamil students who have not studied in national grade curriculum like cbsc do not prefer Neet. If current govt.under current situation is capable to employ youth then why worry about NEET at all.Govt can give other jobs to those who do not want Neet( based on your argument)? One more thing.FINANCIAL CAPACITY OF A GOVT IS NOT STATIC. DO NOT FORGET THAT PEOPLE FROM TAMILNADU IF THEY ARE L7VING IN ALL STATES AND COUNTRIES TODAY, IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF THE LANGUAGE.LIKE OTHER IBDIANS TAMILS TOO RAN FROM THEIR STATE TO OTHER STATES IN SEARCH OF JOB DURING CONGRESS RULE 1947 TO VERY RECENT TIMES. LAKHS OF TAMILS WORKED IN NEIGHBOURING STATES FOR THE LAST 4 DECADES. AND OTHER STATES APPLICANTS WERE NOT RECRUITED BY TAMILNADU GOVT. USING KNOWLEDGE OF TAMIL AS ESSENTIAL QUALIFICATION. IF OTHER STATES POPULATION ARE EMPLOYED IN TAMILNADU IT IS IN CENTRAL GOVT.JOBS. And same Tamilnadu where ever convenient says entire Indian administration was controlled by tamils. Hence preference of a stream of education or preference of employment or place of work are not language based.it is personal preference , recently misused by politicians.
Bihar is very poor state in comparison to tamil nadu then bihar produce doctors every years....totally unreasonable questions u r raising...why tamil school don't accept cbse syllabus in their school if other states choosen already...tamil nadu is only playing politics by killing their poor students....shame on cm of tamil nadu
@@vikramsivakumar2943 if u have most Medical colleges then other states have different courses do Tamil student not choose anything else other than Medicine? Do they never go out of the state?
@@hustlerseekerlearner dude, we build it out of our tax money for a long period of time. We can allocate Atmost 15 percent for all india quota......And we have more engineering college too that we are not even able to fill the full seats. I'm not against biharis or north reading in TN but we have build it for our own purposes suddenly central govt is Allocating 55 percentage seats to all india quota for pg is not right. And according to one Judge Commission recently constituted by TN govt, most of the people clears neat in second through coaching centers. Thank God our Gov at last allocates 7.5 percent seats to govt school people. However there are lots of middle class people who are struggling due to lack of time. Think about backward class woman in particular.
They are duffer student . U.p , m.p , Haryana, punjab, bihar, assam ,w.b , telngana, Karnataka, mH state board didn't cry. Please upgrade your syallbus. Now many cheap online coaching now many poor student crack neet eaxm. In tamil nadu many medical college owner are politicians that's why they appose
I am from Uttar Pradesh, and I totally support his views on scrapping such selection based criterion, as this system devoid students of marginalized section of society to enter in higher studies and creating a net when only upper class rich castes, who enjoys all benefits, just like these upper class people rules us Dalits for thousands of years. A better approach is to take a test like NEET and also give weightage to home boards as well, and high reservation to OBCs and SCs and not to EWS.
The main reason is they are not compete with Kota, Mumbai, Kolkata, Delhi , Bangalore, Hyderabad students. That's why their performance in JEE, UPSC, NEET is poor. In IIT madras maximum student are from other states. 🥱🥱
Outcome expected is fair... Kudos for thinking about equality. Intention in the right place. However the concerns are about State government's failure to have the syllabus on par with CBSE. Not sure if that means the entire nation should shoulder that failure...
Before NEET people were getting admission based on their board exams So people who whose parents were labourers were also able to go to govt school study for boards and get good marks and get a medical seat After NEET the same person who got good marks in their boards didn't get a medical seat because he didn't get the qualifying marks They didn't get neet cut off coz they don't have the money or resources to go for coaching institute and prepare for NEET This is based on a real incident where a person in TN got 97 percent in board exams but didn't get a medical seat because they didn't qualify in NEET Now you tell me how is this justice
@@aryankushwaha1964 Then start tamil medium schools and teach tamil history & culture. CBSE and ICSE schools literally produces anglified students, to settle in foreign. Why not making it equal for everyone? Why should cbse orany particular board would conduct?
A good point indeed people tend to forget that both the rich and poor has to work hard unless they cheat but the rich gets courses to support them the only option is to extend these courses at a cheaper price or free through schools or other institutions
So in 12 years They did not study Maths physics biology chemistry So what they study in 12 years . Physics chemistry and maths and bio are universal subject noone study in 12 years Everyone study and prepare for neet jee from 11 12 and one year drop extra
@@muralirajendhran5346 U have to wait. For next year... A doctor who operates on Life of a human should be eligible to qualify a standard exam. Not should be like the back door entry. An IITians. Will get a seat only from the IIT Rank..
I can speak of Karnataka. People here are angry. earlier there was CET in karnataka which was the enterance to medical colleges for +2 or PUC for karnataka students. Appx 2lakh students wrote exams and top students made it to medical colleges. We studied PUC then students generally took a crash course for a month and write CET exam and based on ranking we got medical and engg seats. Now, NEET exam is from a different syllabus. Kids usually struggle with NEET exams. even though the syllabus is similar in other education boards, its still different and each mark is war as we know so scoring defnitely is difficult for students from state syllabus compared to CBSE students studying ncert text books. Next… even though 85% is resserved for local students, with only limited medical seats available, people feel its a great disadvantage that 15% seats are given away to outside students. We pay tax for govt colleges, some colleges are run by NGO’s(like the one run by Siddhaganga Mutt) getting money through crowd funding and the seats are given away to outsiders who will not be serving Karnataka and wwill go back to their state. I can understand if say a state like Bihar has equal number of medical colleges giving equal number of seats to Karnataka students but when i see such things being absent, my blood boils. Why should our kids struggle and miss out on a medical seat bcz of the corruption in some other state. Ranking - earlier 2 lakh kids wrote exams and got ranking based on that. Now almost 25-30lakh kids write exams and ranking goes down. It effects the morale of our kids. When CET in Karnataka was doing good, why fix it when its not broken? To appease north indian voters?? Corruption - There was never a report of CET question papers getting leaked. There was no corruption. Now its different. why should our kids suffer just bcz there was a leak in Gujrat, UP, Bihar or West Bengal? 15% seats are almost as many seats available in entire state of a sate like Bihar which has more population than karnataka and Tamil Nadu. Also, if Karnataka is giving 15% of its seats from high quality 214 medical college to other states, how many are north Indian states providing to Karnataka or south Indian students? Bihar has 72 medical colleges and we all know the quality of education there. Why would a south Indian go to study medicals in Bihar. This is day light robbery and the only mistake we south Indians did was to control our population, improve our std of living and making our states a better place for our future generation.
Raise the standard of education and the teachers who educate the students. Will TN accept an Uniform Education System if it is proposed! ( Use of exclamation mark intentional )
Be practical, it's not possible to improve teachers with one go like the coaching center where teachers are specilised for particular subjects. Schools can give only general education.
Before NEET people were getting admission based on their board exams So people who whose parents were labourers were also able to go to govt school study for boards and get good marks and get a medical seat After NEET the same person who got good marks in their boards didn't get a medical seat because he didn't get the qualifying marks They didn't get neet cut off coz they don't have the money or resources to go for coaching institute and prepare for NEET This is based on a real incident where a person in TN got 97 percent in board exams but didn't get a medical seat because they didn't qualify in NEET Now you tell me how is this justice
Partially helping students getting ranks in NEET is worse(2024).In my opinion neet is good for students and all the states should encourage students to learn deeper so that they can tackle tough questions.TamilNadu Govt had done a great job.They have introduced learning standards better than CBSE and govt schools have teachers who teach students NEET so that's the debate is safeee!!!
2:56 if you say so! Then take steps to prohibit people who come with fake certificates! While children are struggling to study hard and clearing 12 years of exams with high marks, these forgery people are easily gulping their efforts and becoming Doctors, engineers and teachers etc. That is also the reason for introducing NEET. If govt could take control on that, then only students with qualifications will enter the particular field. Why govt not considering that?
Yes, he is right....NEET is structurally discriminatory.....I know many students in the last 5 years, who could have become doctors , couldn't...... just because of NEET. This exam has collapsed medical education......It is not about poor quality of state syllabus. The question is Can a CBSE student from a remote rural area crack NEET with just NCERT...,?? Even CBSE students in urban areas cannot crack NEET without an additional coaching support. Doctors are going to be more costly affair in future, just because of this exam.... we will all realise it only few years later.. why this Union Government is not able to foresee it....??? Really ridiculous....!!
Me a senior medical teacher, have not seen any visible improvement in the academic ability of students at all level from UG to super-speciality after NEET compared to before
Are you saying before NEET, more rural area students were joining medical colleges? But data is not saying that. In fact most students from particular one or two areas like Namakal only have joined medical colleges. After NEET came, it has changed and students from all over the state are joining. I am not going to say NEET is going to change our education system but it at least proving that our decades old education system is a farce
After admitting students for engineering based class 12 marks, there is a visible change in the quality of B Tech engineers. Many have very good grades and marks but cannot have the self style learn and do skills. Basically they memory based class 12 marks should be the yardstick for professional college admissions. Poor may have to struggle a bit more, but intoday's world, anybody has the skills and willing to hard work can get in to.
The main reason is the coaching center driven even you get neet coaching ads for this video, remember that students from rural areas will mostly work and serve people of India
The 3 reasons DMK opposes NEET 1. CBSE syllabus being the basis for NEET 2. Coaching centre driven - access, affordability 3. States should be given power to assess and take students
Before NEET people were getting admission based on their board exams So people who whose parents were labourers were also able to go to govt school study for boards and get good marks and get a medical seat After NEET the same person who got good marks in their boards didn't get a medical seat because he didn't get the qualifying marks They didn't get neet cut off coz they don't have the money or resources to go for coaching institute and prepare for NEET This is based on a real incident where a person in TN got 97 percent in board exams but didn't get a medical seat because they didn't qualify in NEET Now you tell me how is this justice
Sir if no neet there is no good students so neet is very important the susided students are not valid to study mbbs bds so no any mistake in neet exam the majour problem is lack of good study so no lament yourself mr cm you passed an act as 7.5 quota for govt studens so prepare well no ban neet neet ia most necessary
Neet follows ncert syllabus that is applicable in all boards 10th 11th onwards plus neet follows ncert books that are also Available to and compulsory in all boards, neet papers are drafted by profs all around india and is purely based on the understanding of text and memory of the said ncert book. So it's a baseless and useless statement
I think one country one syllabus system (not a real one but u get the idea) this could prove more beneficial rather than each state having different syllabus and also cbse and state have same syllabus but it at the same time dethrones the cbse schools but it will be better in the long run also students using coaching centers is not a valid point there are kids who go to tuition and it also trains them to do better its not like the coaching centers give them an 100% guarantee a point of balance could be made if schools provide these facilities to students for free before their graduation just like how some cbse schools give training for cat ielts etc this is just an opinion I could be wrong
Can't see any tamil , bengali, telegu or marathi medium cbse school anywhere🤔. Ohh sorry I forgot they just discriminate with us. In most cbse and icse schools they don't even provide those languages as second language option. Kendriya VIdyalayas are great example of that
@@surajitmondal823😂u really need to look up some info before Blurting 2nd language option is available in CBSE lol I have myself taken Kannada 2nd language nd passed out in CBSE
