On Future Gohan's arm... The way I understand it is that games showing human limbs being cut off, or just straight up missing, is a rather touchy subject in Japan... Gets all sorts of pumps up in the age ratings. So companies avoid it by as much as they can. But with Sagas being american made, they're subject to different rules and what not so the arm actually can be chopped off.
Fun fact, Sagas was my first Dragon Ball game! Right after I got way into the Z manga as a kid, I convinced my mom to buy it for me for five bucks at a GameStop. I went on to beat the entire game in one day because even a bad game is acceptable if it’s all you have and you’re a kid obsessed with Dragon Ball. Because I had spent the whole day playing it my mom said she in passing at one point she regretted buying it for me. Now that I’m an adult with the power to buy my own, much better dragon ball games I can finally say that she was absolutely correct, and I regret it too.
I actually bought dragon ball z taiketsu, and you cannot fathom how loudly I cackled when Vegeta just shouted "A TRUE SAIYAN ALWAYS SPRINKLES WHEN HE TINKLES" or something like that.
Man, even if Sagas didn’t want to model in King Kai and his planet for the tutorial, they also literally had Piccolo training Gohan as an option. The area and the characters were already programmed into the game! Instead they had to make a unique set up for the mist man, the most crucial dbz character.
My introduction to dragon ball was on the weirder side. I borrowed one of the chapters my sister had, and it was the one where old piccolo gives birth from his mouth. Then the next time I saw it, it was in the canaries where my little brother poured boiling hot water down my back and the episode I saw the same day was the one where cell eats android 18. So yeah, I'm a big fan.
Dude I 100% Buu's Fury when I was a kid and kept playing hours afterwards. Just like running around and making a story in my head about fighting new villains and pretend fighting each other
Something I never actually understood about the Hero Mode story mode is actually Omega Shenron. Those of you who haven't actually watched GT, allow me to explain. In GT, it's established that there's an entirely seperate set of Dragon Balls. These are the Black Star Dragon Balls, where if you make a wish on them. They don't just scatter across Earth. No they scatter across THE WHOLE! UNIVERSE! And if that wasn't enough, if you don't collect the balls again in a year. The planet you made the wish on is DESTROYED! As a bonus though, the Shenron summoned can grant any wish. So first off. That wouldn't have worked in Hero Mode anyways. Because they scatter across the universe. But then Omega Shenron, why does he not work? Because it's implied that whatever happened with the Black Star Dragon Balls is what wiped out all the heroes (except for Vegeta, because Baby needs to possess Vegeta to become a Great Ape) and threw the world into chaos. So who has been using the normal Dragon Balls? In GT, Omega Shenron happens because the Dragon Balls broke from overuse. Which is understandable, because I think the Dragon Balls were used like....4 or 5 times back to back with humongous tasks being asked of them. So they broke, full of negative energy and the shadow dragons formed as a result of that. Omega is what happens if the rest of the Shadow Dragons are killed and then Syn Shenron (his previous form. He's the 1 star Dragon) eats their Dragon Ball. So to reiterate. That means....there were once...6 other Dragons to kill...for Omega to exist. And even then, here's the kicker. Because of the fact that Hero Mode is relying on the Black Star Dragon Balls specifically, that means Dende is either dead or got absorbed into Piccolo too to try and fight back against the evil. Either way, that means the normal Dragon Balls do not work anymore. Which means...Omega Shenron should not exist. Now with all that in mind...I have a theory about Ultimate Tenkaichi and Hero Mode actually. Based on everything I just said, it seems like Hero Mode was supposed to be...bigger. Or rather...the whole game was supposed to be bigger. I have a feeling that there were going to be more GT Characters, like Baby in his various forms. Like Super 17, like the other Shadow Dragons. And even GT Goku and Vegeta so we could have Gogeta. I have a feeling that Hero Mode was supposed to take you off of Earth and explore the Universe at large. Which would justify why you would need to fight Captain Ginyu (if the fight was supposed to take place on Namek. Where a Black Star Dragon Ball could land because they go out into the whole universe). It might also justify why you need to fight Baby in his Great Ape Form. Because you would follow a rumor about a great Saiyan that got taken over by an alien parasite who might have a Dragon Ball on a completely different planet. I have a feeling that was supposed to be the case. But the game wasn't able to live up to all of those expectations, so this is what we got.
That would be dope as hell actually. Imagine that concept with DBZ Kakarot style maps to explore on each planet you go to.. and then with Raging Blast gameplay and Xenoverse level character creation....man..
it's a good thing the "create your own hero" concept wasn't shelved because of how badly ultimate tenkaichi butchered it. i'm just glad xenoverse 1/2 did it and did it right.
@@discoverarcane to be honest outside of filler (which are filler and will never, ever be explored in any media), the only planets visited in z are: namek/new namek, king kais planet (which is in the afterlife), and supreme kais planet. or, in flashbacks or counting specials, you also get planet vegeta (which was destroyed) and new planet vegeta (which was also destroyed.) the roster of planets explored in z is *tiny*. about the only place NOT explored in kakarot was hell.
So, sagas IS bad, no doubt, but here's a few things, if any of you play it: BUY THE COMBOS, actually BUY THEM ASAP The game was built assuming you'd be getting them, and the last combo does so much damage and is so spammable it gives you a really easy way to fight/beat bosses Second, there is instant transmission, it's just called teleport, (lock on and z) And there's a few neat things you can do, like uppercut, teleport, fly and you'll be really high in the air, or uppercut teleport roundhouse , or use the final combo and spam teleport just to look cool and go all over the place. I found a lot of dumb cool things while playing through the game on hard (bosses get so much hp it's a slog, don't recommend) but , like, I uppercut, teleported, and then normal kicked raditz as I fell and kicked him while going in a circle around him, or if you get knocked down and teleport a certain way you'll just turn invisible and invincible, OR, and this was my favorite, I was broly and my sister was krillin, she started to throw a kienzan but I grabbed her for a throw, the timing caused a glitch though and multiple special attacks fired off, (like 5-8 kienzan) But, if you're gonna play it, IMMEDIATELY invest in the combos, the final combo is just punch punch punch hold kick or kick kick kick kick hold punch, does like 15 hits, kills most normal enemies, and is the fastest health drainer on bosses Otherwise? Don't play this game, it's that bad, this is just a tip for the stubborn One last note, the higher ranked the combo the more your transform bar fills
You can just infinite combo literally everything in the game just by walking in the direction of the enemy and doing four punches, delaying it til the combo disappears, and switching to four kicks. You can loop that infinitely starting from THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME. For as bad as Sagas is, the cheese is can make the game pretty fun.
Will fully admit, the ultimate Tenkaichi counter system made me laugh way more than it should've...just this dumbass character looking up like "Oh no." Before just vaporising still makes me laugh.
Ultimate Tenkaichi was one of those games I had on the 360 that my friend would play whenever he would come over, and all that comes to mind when I think of that game is watching my friend get decked in the Omega Shenron rematch, to the point that "I didn't even break a sweat" became an inside joke in my friend group.
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it annoys me that we say "were a fan of dragon ball z" rather than "i'm a fan of dragon ball." iunno. i feel like even gt gets more notice than the original show. and it's sad.
Don't feel about about wanting Vegeta to win, bumbs, despite how shlocky Dragonball can get at times, Vegeta's a character so amazing he's got one of the only two redemption arcs that actually work, and is the one everyone tries to emulate. (Which inevitably fails because they try and do in 1-2 episodes when Vegeta's took 90% of his time in the original series)
...The other one's Zuko, right? Only edgy violent princes get redemption arcs. Vegeta's redemption arc was so good because you see him slowly infiltrated by niceness and friendship while he's working with the heroes for appropriately villainous reasons. He doesn't decide to try to be better out of nowhere, he's slowly molded into someone who CAN be a better person. While on the whole it's schlock, that is some characterisation right there.
Vegeta kinda lost me when he turned evil again in the Buu saga because... he wanted to be strong enough to beat Goku? So he just kills a bunch of random people
@@getthegoonst's more nuanced than that; Vegeta’s change isn’t a straight line. Its externalizing his inner conflict where he's spent years living peacefully on Earth despite never making peace with his dark past. Vegeta is pretty much living a life that's antithetical to everything he has learned, to the culture ingrained within him evident by Majin Vegeta.
I only remember two things from Sagas Vegeta constantly going "GALICK GUNHAAAAAAAA" because for some reason they'd have two voice lines overlap when he charged it sometimes. And the game's extremely liberal use of combo breakers that only the enemy seemed to, and would, pull off the moment you landed even a single punch on them. It would make even the simplest boss fights become a monumental task.
Yeah, it's quirky as heck and wears the trappings of that type of card-arcade game pretty openly, but I find it amusing and quaint in its own ways, and certainly feel it doesn't match up anywhere near the level of the stuff shown here.
I mean I do like the game and it's chaotic as heck energy, but the actual gameplay and strategy is not really all that great. I do kind of prefer the hero coliseum in Xenoverse 2 because of it's more varied strategies and the overall flow of the combat. However as a dragon ball experience they went buck wild with the character picks and I will always love that part of it.
i dont find heroes that bad. especially since world mission has no actual microtransactions to it. all money can be earned in-game just fine. plus it introduces forms for characters i really, really want in xenoverse.
@@brotbrotsen1100 most likely but it was kind of infuriating because they were finally letting us watch those shows legally and then they copyright claim themselves so those videos were down for a bit
I played all 3 of these games over the years. Here's my thoughts: The 1st one: so forgettable that I can't remember the name and I only remembered it because you talked about it Sagas: boring and repetitive as heck Ultimate: I hate this game so much!! It was such a freaking disappointment
Ultimate Tenkaichi... man I never had such a love hate relationship to a game as much as this one. I thought it was going to be like BT3 because it had Tenkaichi in the title. But when I saw the roster, I was disappointed. The main draw of BT3 for me was the sheer number of characters you had to play with. For crying out loud BT3 had young Chi Chi for petes sakes! My disappointment turned sour when I started playing the game. It was the most repetitive fighting game I have seen. I hated the clash system, because most of the time the opponent was going to win them and in hero mode that was infuriating. The only way I beat the game was by using the Spirit Booster feature with bypasses the clash. But guess what, the more you use Spirit Booster, the less time you get to use it in the future. Because of this most fights were just, charge ki, go spirit booster, build up and use super and ultimate attacks, rise and repeat until the opponent is dead. Does that sound like fun to you? The big bosses were definably a treat and a way to break up the repetitive action, there not good. If it wasn't for the fact, you can pause the game and just barely see the button prompts behind the pause screen, I would have traded the game in. All that being said, I love the fact you can create your own character, even though the options were really limited, and their story is very under cooked alongside one major plot hole. (Ultimate Shenron comes from the Black Star Dragon Balls. Once there used the planet they were used on blows up after one year unless they are returned. A real flick in the nuts for the Hero character.) It's because of Ultimate Tenkaichi that I believe we would not have gotten Xenoverse 1 or 2 which truly took advantage of creating a custom character. Even though Ultimate Tenkaichi is not a good game in and off itself, I do appreciate it for the groundwork it laid for future installments of DBZ video games.
me and my best friend in elementary school loved dragon ball and i remember playing sagas with him. i had no good games as a kid and even i knew that was awful. i was disappointed
Best way I've heard Ultimate referred to as Is that it plays The way People that aren't dragonball fans See the anime. The same thing over and over again with little to no variation and no investment in either the characters or the fights. But unlike the anime or manga, Playing the game doesn't actually help you enjoy it any better as you go on
I love sagas, I’ve not seen any dragon ball, but my friend loves it and he knows that the one thing I love more than not knowing about dragon ball is dumb bad games, and we played it in two player together and since charging up a move slowed down time for Everyone, I exclusively did that
One thing you didn't mention about Sagas: It is bloody buggy as well. One RU-vidr ran into a glitch where after beating 19, Dr. Gero kept shooting Goku until he died and he had to restart. This happened six times.
First, I want to apologize for you having to endure UT. I played Sagas. Beat it in a day. Absolutely hated it! Sold it to a friend for $20. They never paid me, but I was just happy to be rid of it! Also, the only DBZ game I had on the GBA was some card game as a Christmas present. I never figured out how to play it!
God I loved Sagas as a kid. It was great! Mostly because "And YOU get a Masenko and YOU get a Masenko" never got old for me. Would I play it and enjoy it now? Probably not. But I did enjoy.
I remember my stepbrother ordering budokai tenkaiichi 2 for christmas when i was like 16 yars old. They sent Sagas instead, and his reaction was "i am so sorry."
Oh boy, Dragon Ball Z sagas, been a long time since i heard that name I still remember the Cell fight, i never heard of a level skip code and i was too stupid to look it up online, so i just gave up the game, the fact that you can only damage him while on SS2 and the bar builds so, SO slow made me say "aight, fuck this game" At that time i couldn't fathom the fact that games could be bad (idk if i was lucky enough to not buy a bad game or my taste was just garbage), and i tought for a moment that there could be something wrong with me, glad to know that people remember that game with resentment
I love the giddiness at the beginning it mirrors my own experience. My parents didn't care what I watched but DragonBall almost always started coming on late at night when I supposed to be in bed so I'd ninja my way into the living room and try to watch it at low volume.
I actually didn't know that was the game showing the scenes like that, I genuinely thought it was you making those edits so you wouldn't get copyright striked
I found it shitty how some people say Infinite world is shit either just say it was rushed for being a "bad" version of b3 while ignoring every single positive that the game had then b3.
18:30 Confirmed footage of Gohan repeatedly kicking Nappa in the Dragonballs. And Vegeta kicking Recoome I'm the eraser gun 20:49 Was gonna do more but that'd be boring
Well you did forget dragon Ball evolutions.. A movie so bad that Toyama enraged for the disrespect to his creation. Decided to come out of retirement. And make RESURRECTION F and BATTLE OF GODS. Even DRAGON BALL GT couldn't achieve that amount of rage. And then went on to do DRAGON BALL SUPER. So thank God for s***** Hollywood adaptation.
@@bumblesmcfumbles well at least you've seen it, lol. It kinda baffles me how many diehard DBZ fans never actually went back to watch the original series.
@@bumblesmcfumbles Fair enough! And I ADORE the Buu Saga, so it’s great seeing someone else really appreciating it! Anyways, thanks for the great video, and can’t wait to see what you got next!
I recently got big into Dragonball in mid 2021. While I don't really have much to say about the games since the closest I've gotten to playing a DB game is watching some FighterZ, that game certainly looks fun. I'd go into my thoughts on some stuff in the show but if there's one group who hates people of the same communities different opinions.......actually that list is pretty long but I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball is there somewhere.
if the thing about your old comic is true, i'm genuinely upset that the world will never get to see it as you cringe at your old work alongside your whole audience lol
I mean, there was kind of a card game called Dragon Ball Z Harukanaru Densetsu. Long name I know, though it's a DS game I played and it was pretty fun actually, nice sprites and music too.
20:33 The irony? New combos do *way* more damage. Easily the most damage in the game and most of the time it knocks the enemy down. If they get up, you can already be punching at them and effectively stunlock (not quite as reliable until you get guardbreak abilities but still much faster than hitting 2 buttons all the time). Also, you can teleport when locked on to an enemy, allowing you to dodge basically anything. Oh, and in some levels (not all because whatever) finishing combos on enemies will send them flying so far they'll instantly die. The 2nd player is always a different character from the show, like Piccolo, which is why he's in the game...Except for boss battles...You missed out on the greatest torture of all not playing co-op. With all this in mind, please petition for DBZ Sagas to be taken out of this video and instead placed in "*5* of the Worst Dragon Ball Games Ever."
@@gargeluy3035 That's the joke. It's not really a good game, but it is playable and has at least some competent design. It's not Balan Wonderworld levels of bad.
Sagas...I wish I could forget it exists. It's SO bad it actually makes me question my reality. If it was an indonesian knock off or something like that I could maybe understand why it's so broken and horrible, but as is I cannot comprehend how it happened. I think Sonic 06 is a masterpiece compared to it, hell I'd rather play Sonic Boom even
it eventually added them in an update, but that came at the cost of them absolutely refusing to keep adding the newer cards. to encourage japanese players to spend money on it at the arcades i guess?
6:43 so they wanted to have 2D sprites digitized from 3D models based on 2D animation adapting comic-book artwork? That sounds like an incredibly stupid and pointless idea.
I spent an embarrassing amount of time becoming a master of Ultimate Tenkaichi when I was younger since it was the only DBZ game I had at one point It’s not good by any means 😂 The music in the game rocks though
Ngl, i don't hate Ultimate Tenkaichi. I think the graphics are awesome and I love the character customization. The gameplay is straight up bad, though. The cutscenes aren't good either. Idk, sometimes I replay it from time to time
When the Buu's Fury music first started playing and you were talking about how the Game Boy couldn't handle some games I was in awe thinking you were about to talk down on one of the best RPGs on the Gameboy... I'm glad to see I was dead wrong and you, instead, talked craps about one of the WORST gameboy games imaginable. Thank you, Sir McFumbles.
Major Story mode "one-on-one" Boss Battles in Co-op had both players controlling one character, with control of that character jumping between players every few seconds. _Have fun with that...!_
Calling the Wii a "last-gen" system compared to Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 is the most baffling thing about this video. It's like, you may as well call the Sega Dreamcast a fifth-gen console at that point.
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