B I would say, but after watching this, I think I will be doing it a lot more. I discovered check raising the weak bet size not too long ago, but check raising c-bets will certainly result in winning many small pots I would otherwise lose. Likewise check raising the boards that are great for my range or actual hand should result in winning bigger pots than normal. Great video!
Although I agree with the first example I am not sure if we really are happy with a K falling down. Big chunk of their checkraise calling range on the flop is KJ (+occasionally some random sticky AK who does not want to fold).
Thanks coach, I was watching this during a session and check raised the pre flop aggressor with bottom pair on a 10 high monotone board, he let it go 🤝
The first two hand examples are quite different examples of check-raising vs over C-betters. One is a bluff exploiting the fact that people over C-betting will then fold too often. Whereas the other is a very thin value bet exploiting the fact that they’ll call too often. Presumably you need a lot of info on villain’s tendencies to distinguish?
This doesn't work at lower stakes if the opponents are deep stacked and are wealthy. Good luck trying this at 1 3 at my local casino, especially late at night when people are inebriated and simply do not fold!
Great video, but in all those situations the opponent was the preflop agrresor. So our first check was very simple-common and had no information. I think its trickier to give a check-raise when you are the one who was the agressor and expected to c bet. I like to do this play with good or marginal hands to players that always bet when you check to them. They get angry and call you all the way!
it's much rarer to be in those spots though as your opponent is likely making a mistake by betting rather than checking back. board texture obviously plays a role and certainly there are textures that make sense for you to check rather than c-bet, but those situations generally mean opponent has a very polarized range on what he should be betting, so your check-raise either has him snap folding, he has you, or he's coolered himself. and while certainly you want that third option to be the case, it's the most unlikely so the situations don't present themselves that much. and even so you're generally better off flatting the flop, checking turn, and then you're playing face up poker. he can bet again and you can raise if you have it or fold if you don't because at this point he's likely never folding, or he checks and you have to value bet river lest he checks back for showdown. like at extreme high levels either side can potentially be bluffing, but at that point you're almost never checking anyway and trying to bet for value at every opportunity.
Below 50bbs I would literally start shoving on the cbet crazy person. Above 50bbs, with the big size for a cbet, you can check raise small on the flop. If there Cbet on the Turn is low than just float and take the pot down on the turn were he becomes honest. Dont over use the check raise, but when I get check raised and i bet big and say i had top pair. Puts you in a hard spot, especially since you should be thinking of every street. Also depends on the player type, if hes a decent REG than well he should not be cbet like a madman. I usually check raise the flop if they have a high cbet on the turn, small cbet on turn I'll probably just float and look to take pot down on turn. If board is correct
When I bet small on the river, then its mostly because I am sure I have the best hand and try to make a little extra money. If he calls, fine, if he raises, even better, insta call/reraise. When I bet bigger on the river, its usually with the intention to scare them off, so I dont have to go to showdown, because I am not that sure if I have the best hand.. so actually its exactly the other way around like you assumed iin #2... but interesting to hear that many people bet small with weaker hands. I never thought of this. because I do it the other way around I have automatically assumed most people think like me and do it like me, therefore I considered small bets more "dangerous"
@@StommelenGames - correct. @windyway2424 - Do more research on modern poker theory. It wouldn't taken long for players that play with you often to pick your pattern. You should be raising on the river sometimes small, raising some big and even checking and folding others. It shouldn't be about the quality of your hand, but about mixing it up so that you aren't predictable to your table. You want to keep your opposition guessing. Sometimes getting caught bluffing early in a game can be the best thing you can do. The next time you will have the nuts, you might just get called! I play one big money game locally. I try to play differently every time I play. It is very hard to play against someone that changes how they play over and over again. The trick is to not be predictable!
Hey Jonathan - LOVE your stuff for many years now, so tank you for all you do! Is there any material or video or article (anything really) you could point me to showing your PioSolver Inputs? I use a variety depending on the situation, but was curious how you set up your sims?
However it is wise not defend the Big Blind with rubbish (and fold), we forget that aspect to demonstrate how to Check-Raise an opponent from the 3 most perfect spots on the poker table: 1 the Big Blind, 2 BB, 3 the big blind.
18:15 isn't it totally fine if they're 3bet jamming on that flop with 88? J7ss should be favored because you have 16 outs. It's just disaster when villian has a better flush draw
As a certified borderline fossilized old person, I can attest that check-raising was indeed once considered an unethical, rude, personal attack on the other player. People would be livid. It was as if a batter went berserk because the pitcher threw a curveball.
It’s referring to your knowledge of range charts. If you study range charts and familiarize yourself with what range of hands each position is going to have based on the action, you will know whether you or your opponent is more likely to have the nuts or a nutted type hand (2nd or 3rd nuts). Whoever’s range is going to include more combos which would give them the nuts or a nutted hand on any specific street has the nut advantage.
If your opponent 3-bets you pre flop and you just call, and the board comes AK4 rainbow, he will have more strong or essentially “nutted hands” than you, the pre flop caller, will. Such as AA, KK, AK.
Jonathan talks about range and nut advantage a lot. Basically the range advantage is with the player whose whole range is roughly 60% - 40% or better than the caller. Use equilab or a similar equity program to check for yourself. For example, if the flop were AKQ the preflop raiser would have a large range advantage. AA KK QQ AK AQ . If the flop is 789 the preflop caller has a range advantage (they have 56 TJ T6s maybe 77 88 99 98 97 87 66 and 55 . And if the flop has 3 low cards the preflop raiser has the advantage but not quite as much.
I love these videos, when I’m having a hard time sleeping, I put him on and I’m out in less than 5 minutes. Maybe be a little more creative than talking off a PowerPoint
This is my weakness in poker and idk how to improve on it. It’s been months and I’m still trash. Idk when my opponent is bluffing. Sometimes I make hero calls and look so good. Other times I make bad folds and they show the bluff. Seems like the times I do call, I get shown the bad news. How is that even possible.. when I call I lose. But when I fold, I could’ve won if I just called. Poker is so frustrating sometimes lol
If our opponent is aware that they are c-betting too often and expects us to respond by check raising too often. How do we adjust to them c-betting slightly less often but and re-raising too often? Would be cool to see some nodelocked HUNL examples, I don't have the ram to run any deep stacked sims.
The thing if it is...if you're playing a cash game...why put yourself in a "dicey" scenario? I don't want situations where I'm flipping a coin. I want to pick spots where I have value and advantage....That's the way I look at poker.
The moment you feel personally attacked because you realize you're not check-raising nearly enough.... And then The Poker Coach reminds you that you're being a nit and need to check-raise more... 😜
