3 Secret Rare Lines to Beat the London System 

man that's so true((

Eric Rosen: Ahh

If he replied with "oh no my openings," I would hope that he has been developing a new gambit or something. Really, we're just missing a tactic.

@@VivekGawande1 *gah

Eric admits the Stafford is dubious vs good players

Congratulations!

The other youtubers know, they just want you to watch the whole video every time, even if you were just looking for one part of it. There seems to be 4 or 5 adds in this 16 minute video though, so much for saving time

Tho he forgot to put the 0:00 stamp which subdivides the bar

Very thoughtful. I wish more would do this

I'm watching a RU-vid video. I'm the opposite of busy.

Luka Luce very true, sometimes the best you can do is take your comment the time stamps

Happy to help! Thanks for watching.

Esoteric The London is very passive and if you have time to study the structrures you will learn alot. If you play classically against it (pawn on d5, c5, both knights out...) then you have a firm grasp of the game. Because the London is a system, it is extremely easy to prepare something against it. You could home-prep a certain attack which there are many of. I personally didn’t really like the last one because I wouldnt really play this in a FIDE rated game as it is too risky, but very fun to play against weaker players in blitz time format.

Xponent you give me way too much credit. I’m like a 1500 lichess on my best day. I spend more time doing chess puzzles than actually playing chess. But from what you’ve said I disagree with some points. You say the London is passive but it really isn’t, if you check out the Eric Rosen DVD there are some horrible attacking lines and many ways to change into different styles, it’s not like you’ve made your bed after doing a few moves. There’s a reason Eric loves it so much. Likewise whilst you can “prepare” against the London, it’s extremely sound as an opening and very difficult to break down. I know I’m poor at the game but a lot of what I’ve said comes from people who know a lot more about it. Again I’m grateful to Jonathan for making this video, it’s one I’ve wanted him to do for months to hopefully give the little brother a bloody nose (figuratively). I’ve got an OTB with the lad later today so I’ll study this video a few more times - wish me luck :)

Esoteric Star Wars Rubbish Ahahah it’s fine :D. Many people are just here to play for fun now and then. But the thing is, there is a reason why stronger players (I’d say GM level and up) never play this, it’s ultra passive. Bu don’t get me wrong. The London is a BRILLIANT weapon for non-serious chess players and it is totally fine. However, you will eventually hit a plateau, when you meet people who actually know how to play against a set, rigid, structure. Also, most people who watch Rosens and Schrantz videos are beginners from the Pogchamps interest spike or are slightly less experienced. The reason I don’t recommend these openings is that the time that adds up playing these openings will show you that you won’t progress that far. Also by the way, Rosen didn’t *start* with the London, he started playing the standard e4 e5 or Sicilian openings, and THEN began experimenting with other openings when he became stronger, just like Schrantz. If you want to become a stronger player and learn about the structures and positional strategies in chess then opening systems should be avoided entirely tbh. Good luck on the OTB match!!

@@microitos9754 gata kamsky and magnus carlsen would like a word

i was hoping i wasnt the only london player doing this

These move orders that he is suggesting are good when the white player doesn't know much theory. So it's still playable.

@@aryashetty3924 typically London players are the lazy type

@@aryashetty3924 If someone knows theory, they won't even play the London in the first place.

@@aryashetty3924 we have the same name :). Are you iranian?

Good spot! I missed that one during the game.

Yeah free rook there

brilliant

Funny enough just stumbled into that myself before reading your post using Stockfish on the phone.

That sounds fun, im playing this against the london from now on xD

It's called the Lit Defence

The problem is g5 will trigger any decent players sense of danger. The best traps come from natural looking moves.

For your response on system 2 there is a crazy game played by gms where black locks up all the pawns on queenside after playing c4 forcing white to blink and capture on b6. Then he eventually gets b4 in even though there are pawns on a3 and c3 because the a1 square was pinned by uncastled king and other rook recaptured bishop trade earlier on c2. That was one cool idea a3 pawn does nothing to prevent b4 until white castles sometimes. Even cooler though is then he used b4 move to get b3 in and looked completely locked. Sacrificed bishop on a3 and recaptured c3 after bxa. Down a full piece but the a pawn hangs and 3 connected passers easily roll. So never allow closed pawn chain to reach b3 or you will need to watch sacrifice tactics closely rest of game. I’m same rating as you btw

It's the Elshad System invented by FM Igor Nemstev, and that plan is very common... similar to the black lion defense's kingside pawn storm.

Doesn't seem too hard, tbh. Early h3 might get you some good results.

Сергей Костров Schrantz stole it and didn’t mention it since he thought no one would spot that because most of his viewers are beginners.

1 d4 c5?

@@zwebzz9685 yes

I'll meet your Qb6 with 4. Nc3. Take the b2 pawn, go ahead. Please open up White's b file for my hungry rook, as I attempt to trap your flirtatious Queen while swarming to c7 furking(sp) your King and sleepy Rook. Too much play left to consider a draw by any means.

@@SpaceCadet4Jesus Nd5 covers c7 and attacks your bishop and a6 kicks your knight,

@@KevinWood44 Various moves for White after Nd5, push knight into decision with c4, or, attack Queen with Rb1, or, c3 or a3 which I like better. Could even let NxBf4, then move into a fork at c7. Lots of choices.

@@KevinWood44 if white wants to hold onto his bishop, Bg2 is playable, but passive.

@@SpaceCadet4Jesus c4 then Qb5+, a3 then a6, c3 Na6/Nc6 its all fine with me

Thought so. 12 Bxf7+ is much better than 12 Ne2.

Even first one is difficult .

Check out Elshad system .Its a well knows russian opening idea . I can send you the first book in pdf.(there are two -one for black and one for white side) if you want.

@@NuclearErrorBG thanks bro.. Sorry 4 the late reply. I noticed it just now! Yes. Pls do. Very much appreciated..

Thank you!

3.c3 only played 3% of all games, that means not most London player do. So no concern.