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3. Starting the Art (with David Hellman and Frank Cifaldi) 

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@Seacle14
@Seacle14 4 месяца назад
Thank you Jonathan. I'll do my best to enjoy life
@SZvenM
@SZvenM 4 месяца назад
I appreciate your intro and the terminology of " *visual* art ". I have always found it frustrating for only the visuals of a game to be considered (or at least called) "art".
@puncherinokripperino2500
@puncherinokripperino2500 4 месяца назад
but the soundtrack....
@SZvenM
@SZvenM 4 месяца назад
@@puncherinokripperino2500 Exactly. And everything else a game is made up of, too.
@jabberw0k812
@jabberw0k812 4 месяца назад
A Lesson Is Learned is how I found out about Braid when it came out.
@JonathanHamlow
@JonathanHamlow 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much for releasing these. As someone keenly interested in game design but without much technical foundation in it these are accessible but get deep enough to be challenging. Fascinating. The discussion early in the episode about including game design under the definition of Art reminded me of Art History courses in college and talking about how long it took for photography to be included as part of the pantheon of "real" art forms.
@bigrathole
@bigrathole 4 месяца назад
A Lesson Is Learned But the Damage Is Irreversible is one of my favourite webcomics ever made, it captures an era as well as a bunch of other stuff. Beautiful stuff. Also great to hear Cifaldi doing the interview.
@filipe.baptista
@filipe.baptista 4 месяца назад
Appreciate that intro Jon
@gordo6908
@gordo6908 4 месяца назад
these commentary/interviews have been thoroughly enjoyable and illuminating. i wonder how many are left and if any will feature soulja boy
@james-s-smith
@james-s-smith 4 месяца назад
Soulja Boy would have a conflict of interest because he's currently president of Atari
@iamvfx
@iamvfx 4 месяца назад
David Hellman's tweets are a cherry on top
@whitecocksmatter
@whitecocksmatter 4 месяца назад
yeah, he is so talented yet a total woke cuck, it's such a shame...
@tripplejaz
@tripplejaz 4 месяца назад
yeah, he seems insane. Cherry on top indeed.
@Turellio
@Turellio 4 месяца назад
oh wow never connected A Lesson is Learned and Braid art
@nngnnadas
@nngnnadas 4 месяца назад
I think the marble thing is also in Spongebob
@arsenbabaev1022
@arsenbabaev1022 4 месяца назад
first
@alexandersemionov5790
@alexandersemionov5790 4 месяца назад
I see why he was hired. His way of communicating is similar to Johns
@nerdError0XF
@nerdError0XF 4 месяца назад
The thing is, i tried to listen to this talk on YT but the start was so messy, so i stopped for a while. But then i played the game and really enjoyed all the commentary David gave! So yea, weird start for the discussion but then i feel like David really opened up
@james-s-smith
@james-s-smith 4 месяца назад
Jon goes out of his way to avoid talking about the story and meaning of Braid, so hearing David talking about it at length was really surprising to me. Great interview!
@rotundbun
@rotundbun 4 месяца назад
Details within details connected to details, all intertwined meaningfully. That sense of artistry really comes through in the game feel. With how artistic & design intent permeates all layers and aspects of the game, it's no wonder that the game feels so cohesive in its identity. The notes about "tonal continuity" and "search for truth of the world" mentioned in this episode are spot-on. So insightful and articulate. Thanks for another great episode.
@alejmc
@alejmc 3 месяца назад
Woah, pretty cool that at 40:34. If he had done most of the new art in procreate there are some chances that he has the Timelapse’s that procreate records of each document brush history. That would be a sight to see. Else, really cool already, we are also exploring procreate to expand on an art of our next game as one of the artists basically swims like dolphin in water with that app.
@johnkenneth3602
@johnkenneth3602 4 месяца назад
I find this quite weird. I'm a regular listener to The Insert Credit podcast. Cifaldi is a regular panelist. And whenever the topic is brought up or they have the opportunity to do so, they discredit and speak badly about Jon Blow and his games. Though Cifaldi is more charitable towards Blow and his games.
@metinevrenkurtulus
@metinevrenkurtulus 4 месяца назад
Any examples? What do they say?
@SpeedfreakUK
@SpeedfreakUK 4 месяца назад
The insert credit clique are extremely left wing to quite abnormal degrees, I can imagine them being overbearing on a podcast and Cifaldi feeling like he doesn’t want to push back too hard.
@htpkey
@htpkey 3 месяца назад
​@@SpeedfreakUK "extremely left wing to quite abnormal degrees" Does that mean that they SUPER advocate for equality, respect for POC and the LGBT community?
@TreesPlease42
@TreesPlease42 3 месяца назад
12:00 sounds like Loop Hero
@ProgrammingLovers
@ProgrammingLovers 4 месяца назад
It's really fun to listen to such conversations
@MenkoDany
@MenkoDany 4 месяца назад
Apparently chat here doesn't know of David's beef with Jon. Okay.
@SpeedfreakUK
@SpeedfreakUK 4 месяца назад
Nope, care to elaborate?
@MenkoDany
@MenkoDany 4 месяца назад
@@SpeedfreakUK Meh, leave it be. You can find it if you want. It ain't pretty
@whitecocksmatter
@whitecocksmatter 4 месяца назад
@@MenkoDany apparently, you should provide the links, you nitwit.
@metinevrenkurtulus
@metinevrenkurtulus 4 месяца назад
@@MenkoDany Nothing comes up on the internet
@MenkoDany
@MenkoDany 4 месяца назад
@@metinevrenkurtulus Weird, you're right. Can't find anything either. I looked through David's tweets and it looks like they must've settled it since he deleted them, in fact it looks like he either stopped using twitter for a while or just deleted a lot of tweets. Basically David accused Jon of not properly rewarding his work. Something to the tune of "Jon became a millionaire, while I struggle to pay the bills". I think this was in response to something Edmund McMillen said? I don't recall, sorry I'm sure this time around they could find a contract that made both sides happy. We've to assume Braid: AE will make more money than the original, right?
@____uncompetative
@____uncompetative 4 месяца назад
I find it infuriating that XBOX is turning into Microsoft Gaming as the logo has an ugly descender which could be avoided with: Microsoft *Games* Having no g descender and more emphasis placed on the Games given that in past their focus on all on the BOX which sounded like it was dead on arrival by being called the EX-BOX rather like the dead Parrot in the _Monty Python_ sketch being referred to as an "EX-Parrot". Just something I have always thought was a terrible name for a console, and ID@Xbox is an over designed mess that is supposed to be Independent Developers at Xbox, which sounds like a group of professional mourners hired to attend a wake.
@sv_gravity
@sv_gravity 4 месяца назад
32:33 can not parse who he talks about, anyone ?
@Seacle14
@Seacle14 4 месяца назад
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