3 VERSES THAT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES CANNOT ANSWER about JESUS WORSHIP (with Greek) 

Jesus is our Lord and Saviour!

I have been JW for 20 years and I believe Jesus was Archangel Michael. Recently I wake up and analyse again all the teachings. What you say make sense...if Jesus was an Archangel he will stop them and do not accept to be worship. Is logic then his nature should be divine. His diety is proven here.

1 Amen. 2 Amen 3 Amen Praise his name.

The angel said worship God.... Not Worship Jesus. In the temptation in the wilderness Jesus Christ quoted the Scriptures from Deuteronomy saying You must worship Jehovah and to Him alone you must render sacred service.

In Exodus 20:4 God gave Israel this command; "You shall not make for yourself a carved image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above or that is on the earth beneath or that is in the water below. QUESTION If the Jesus is God, Has God contravene his own command when the bible which is inspired by God describes Jesus as a Lamb siting with God on his throne? Consider this question very carefully. Because God's command clearly says. That you should not make an image of God, in the likeness of anything that is in heaven (stars, planets, sun, moon or BIRDS) on earth (animals or plants) or in the water (the sea, meaning fish) In the Revelation Jesus is clearly seen in vision as a lamb. He is even called the lamb of God.

You say, and I quote "The point of my video is to show that in the NT neither humans, nor angels but Got and Jesus receive proskuneo." Well, Jesus when telling of forgiveness uses proskuneo in connection to a HUMAN Matt 18:26 And at Rev. 3:9 Jesus shows the position of authority he will give to some of his human followers when he says he will make people "worship before thy feet." - KJV. The word used there is proskuneo! The ASV again adds this footnote: "The Greek word [proskuneo] denotes an act of reverence whether paid to a creature, or the Creator......... Looks like proskuneo is be given to humans in TWO seperate occasions here........The answer is there, you just got to do a bit of digging and look for it they way we do.............My advice is to try NOT to nullify Gods word, just accept what it says. Even the extremely trinitarian W. E. Vine writes in his An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, p. 1247: "PROSKUNEO ... to make obeisance, do reverence to (from pros, towards, and kuneo, to kiss), is the most frequent word rendered 'to worship'. It is used for an act of homage or reverence (a) to God ...; (b) to Christ ...; (c) to a man, Matt. 18:26." ("Obeisance," of course, shows "respect, submission, or reverence" - Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, 1961.) Noted Bible scholar J. H. Thayer defines proskuneo: "prop. to kiss the hand to (towards) one, in token of reverence ... hence in the N. T. by kneeling or prostration to do homage (to one) or make obeisance, whether in order to express respect or to make supplication. It is used a. of homage shown to men of superior rank [position] ... Rev. 3:9 .... b. of homage rendered to God and the ascended Christ, to heavenly beings [angels]" - p. 548, Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, Baker Book House Publ., 1977. So as PROSKUNEO was given to people in the OT as well as the NT it goes without saying that it does not mean the exclusive worship we give to our creator !

Totally wrong brother Proskinao: to prostrate or offer respect. It can be offered to men as well God Latrevo: to offer sacred service: the word is used for the Father only and never Jesus

1) Amen 2)Amen 3)Amen.......... Isaiah 60:16, Jn 4:42, Isaiah 43:11, EPH:5:23........ only one SAVIOUR!!!! AMEN!

Here is where logic come in. Do you worship or honor a king? This same word is used when doing obeisance. God installed Jesus as King. One honors Jesus in worship of Jehovah.

Scripture clearly shows us that Jesus is not God Almighty. Luke 18:19 And Jesus said to him, 'Why me dost thou call good? NO ONE is good, EXCEPT One -- God; (Jesus is not God) 1 Tim 2:5 for one is God, one also is mediator of God and of men, the man Christ Jesus. (Jesus is a Mediator, not God) John 1:18 God, NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN; the only begotten Son, who is on the bosom of the Father -- he did declare. (No one has ever seen God) Job 42:5 By the hearing of the ear I heard Thee, And now MINE EYE HATH SEEN Thee. (Job did see the Lord God, but he didn't see God Almighty, which no one has ever seen) John 14:9 Jesus saith to him, 'So long time am I with you, and thou hast not known me, Philip? he who HAS SEEN ME hath seen the Father; and how dost thou say, Shew to us the Father? (My Father who art in heaven is also not God as everyone saw Jesus. Heaven cannot contain God, as seen below) 2 Chron 2:6 and who doth retain strength to build to Him a house, FOR THE HEAVENS, EVEN THE HEAVENS OF THE HEAVENS, DO NOT CONTAIN HIM. (Heaven or this universe CANNOT contain God) 1 Kings 8:27 But, is it true? -- God dwelleth on the earth! LO, THE HEAVENS, AND THE HEAVENS OF THE HEAVENS, DO NOT CONTAIN THEE. (God NEVER dwelled on earth or heaven) If you believe Jesus is God Almighty, you cannot believe He really died and if you believe He didn't die, you deny Ephesians 1:13 and make void the power of the cross. God Almighty has no beginning and no end (only eternal entity) and cannot exist or even enter this temporal realm of time and space. He exists in the infinite realm and Jesus was sent into this realm as the Word of John 1:1, as His image. Jesus is the mediator between God and man. 1 Ti 2:5 for ONE is God, ONE also is mediator of God and of men, the man Christ Jesus, Colossians 1:15 who is the image of the invisible God, first-born of all creation. (Jesus was the Word of John 1:1 and the One who existed with God in John 1:2, and the One that created all things in this "created realm" in John 1:3, and the Light in John 1:4-5, and the One John came to witness and testify for in John 1:7.

Thank you so much for this. Wow. Needed this as I'm currently studying with JWs.

This wasn't so mind blowing from the perspective that a JW will dismiss this fairly easily with this play on definitions, namely, "... " Hence, witnesses would see these verses as only showing [submission] just as a slave would to a master. Only God the father,namely, Jehovah, is to be [worshipped] in a religious sense. This is how they reason on this topic further: "The reading of Matthew 28:9 appears on the face of it to look like a flat contradiction of what Jehovah’s witnesses teach, but, of course, the King James Bible translators would naturally want to support their trinitarian view by rendering the Greek word here into English as “worshipped.” However, it is interesting to note howby Smith and Goodspeed renders Matthew 28:9. It reads: “And Jesus himself met them, and said, ‘Good morning!’ And they went up to him and clasped his feet, and bowed to the ground before him.” Thesays: “They approached and caught him by his feet and did obeisance to him.” This bowing to the ground or doing obeisance to the resurrected Jesus does not mean worshiping him. If it did, then men of God in ancient times could be found guilty of worshiping human creatures, because they bowed before them; whereas the angel that was used to transmit the Revelation to the apostle John stopped him when he wanted to worship the angel, and told him to worship only God.-Rev. 19:10; 22:8.

Didn't watch the video but I'm a JW. Ask me anything

WHY IS JESUS "THE WAY" TO GOD AND "...THE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN..." IF JESUS, AS YOU WRONGLY BELIEVE, IS GOD..??? The Bible, as the word of God, is the authority; not what "WISE MAN" think or interpret..! STICK TO THE BIBLE AS THE WORD OF GOD..! -John 14:6; 1 Timothy 2:5.

As far as we see in this channel, comments are so respecful and many are very deep in content. Very inteligent people are here using arguments that they know. I feel confortable reading all comments, thanks a lot for that, please keeping that line. Thanks for "Greek For All" for let people to interchange what on their minds.

1.Amen 2.Amen 3.Amen. Such an important verb "proskuneo", and must be directed to the right Person! God alone! Surprised that even John the apostle could get it wrong, to be corrected by the angel. With Jesus now in heaven, we cannot do this to anyone, human or angel.

This was fascinating!! 😲 Thank you! 😊

Amen Amen Amen you talk perfect sense

Amen brother. Very helpful indeed.

And HIM alone you shall worship , not Me. Not us! Him refering to jesus father jehovah?

A final indication that the book of Revelation is teaching or hinting at Jesus' full deity in this last chapter is when we compare Rev. 22:16 with Rev. 1:1 and back to Rev. 22:6. Rev. 22:16 has Jesus saying, "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches." Rev. 1:1 states, "The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John," Rev. 22:6 states, "And he said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. And the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent his angel to show his servants what must soon take place." Examining these three verses there seem to be three possibilities. 1. The Father and Son sent two different angels. Each sending "His [own]" angel. 2. Both the Father and Son sent the same angel. The same angel being "his" to both the Father and Son. 3. The Son is the one who sent his angel. If the third option is true, then Jesus is "the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets" (per Rev. 22:6). That would seem to imply Jesus' full deity. The following are some reasons why this third option is plausible to me. We know that Rev. 22:16 has Jesus sending His angel. Regarding Rev. 1:1 I'm aware of at least one scholarly source that sides with Jesus being the one who sent His angel rather than the Father. The NET Bible states in a footnote on Rev. 1:1, "In 1:1 and 22:16 it is clear that Jesus has sent his angel to proclaim the message to John; thus the message is from Christ..." Options 1 & 2 seem implausible to me. Finally, it wouldn't be surprising to me that just as Rev. 22:20 was intended to indicate the identity of the speaker in Rev. 22:12-13 and so teach the full deity of Christ; so Rev. 22:16 was intended to indicate the identity of sender of an angel in Rev. 22:6 and so also teach the full deity of Christ. How can we make sense of all the foregoing data? The Trinitarian position can make sense of all this data. Data that suggests there are at least two persons who are Jehovah and possess the attributes of Jehovah. This is the case EVEN IF we reject the notion that Christ ever refers to Himself as the Almighty in the book of Revelation. Though, as I said, some would argue that Christ does refer to Himself as Almighty God in Rev. 1:8. Those who reject Christ's full deity have to argue that there are two firsts and lasts, God the Father and the Son who isn't truly or fully God. They may also argue that while Christ is called "first and last," he is not referred to as "the alpha and omega" or "the beginning and end." But is that really reasonable? Didn't I undermine that objection by my analysis of Rev. 22:12-13 in light of other similar verses in the same book? Isn't it more reasonable to conclude that all three phrases are three different ways to refer to the same thing? That is, the omnipotent and omniscient Sovereign source of the origin and meaning of all of creation. It's not inconsistent with the rest of the New Testament to see Christ as the co-source/co-creator/co-sustainer/co-purposer of the universe with the Father (John 1:1-3;1 Cor. 8:6; Col. 1:16-17; Heb. 1:2-3,10-13). Also, doesn't it make more sense that if Almighty God wanted to avoid giving the impression that Jesus is fully God, then He would not have inspired the book of Revelation to refer to Jesus as "the first and last"? Nor inspire it to seemingly imply Jesus is also "the Alpha and Omega" along with being "the beginning and the end"?

Rather simple. The translation of the Koine Greek word " προσεκύνησεν " does not mean "worship" but means "did obeisance" which in modern terms means "to bow down", "showing deep respect for one superior to himself". This is a very simple error in translation. Reference Strongs Concordance προσκύνημα -- pilgrimage, prostration, obeisance

1,2,3 Amen Amen Amen

John 5:23 23so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. Hebrews 1:6 6But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: “And let all of God’s angels do obeisance to him.” Revelation 5:12 12and they were saying with a loud voice: “The Lamb who was slaughtered is worthy to receive the power and riches and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and blessing.”

Jesus is our king our salvation, amen

Jesus, not any human authority figure, whether Jew or Gentile, received this act of homage due only to the Messiah and God.

1. AMEN! 2.AMEN! 3.AMEN!

"Jesus said"who saw me saw the father. (Jesus was) Jehovah's word who worshiped him worshiped his Father Jehovah (when he was on earth) Now we worship and pray to the Lord Jehovah in the name of his Son Jesus Christ, as he said to his desiples. and I (Jesus)will give it unto thee, that my father may be glorified.

to the JW'S Jesus is A GOD. 1 Timothy 2:5 King James Version (KJV) 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus; ( the word became flesh in other words GOD became Jesus the man, since all man kind are sons of GOD, so is the MAN Jesus

Jesus never claimed to be God. John 14:28-31 New International Version 28 “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. Mark 10:18 ► New International Version “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good-except God alone. 1 Samuel 2:2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God. Rev 3: I am coming soon. Hold fast to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 12The one who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will never again leave it. Upon him I will write the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God (the new Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven from My God), and My new name. John 20:1717 “Do not cling to Me,” Jesus said, “for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go and tell My brothers, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God.’” Mark 16:19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. John 7:33 So Jesus said, "I am with you only a little while longer, and then I am going to the One who sent Me. Ephesians 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in your knowledge of Him.

1, 2, 3 Amen!

123 amen

Great content, I never seen it illustrated in this way. JW do see Jesus as only an Angel and angels can’t be worshipped, only Jesus!!🔥🙌🏽

Oh my goodness. This was so bad. The very first example concerning Peter and the conclusion that the creator of this video came to is completely unfounded. Humans can accept proskuneo or worship from other men. Read 1 Chron. 29:20. The whole congregation of Israel “bows down and worships God and the king”! There’s no differentiation made between the worship given to Jah and to the human king of Israel. Does this indisputable fact make David or Solomon, God Almighty? No. So a creature placed in positions of authority that represent God’s rulership can receive “worship” and this doesn’t take away glory from God. In the case of Peter the man was obviously worshipping him as if he literally was God Almighty. This is why Peter rejected this act. Like most words, the word “worship” has a semantic range and context will determine its meaning. But even in verses like 1 Chron. 29:20 where no distinction is made between the worship given to Jah and to the king of Israel we know that the worship given to both was not the same.

AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!!!

1. Not a great argument, because the Bible specifics that Jesus is worshiped to the glory of the Father. So it is certainly possible that Yahweh/The Father could appoint a man worthy of worship without contradiction of Peter’s statement. It wasn’t like Peter was commenting on the worship of Jesus, he was saying “don’t worship me”

To all those saying things like "Why did Jesus pray to God or worship God if he was God?" there is a simply explanation. The governing body of Jehovah's witnesses consist of 8 people who speak to each other. Yet it is one body. Your body is made up of trillions of cells which communicate with each other in order to sustain life. (Your brain alone has billions of neurons which communicate with each other. ) Why is it so hard for some to accept that God has the power to be in more than one place or form at the same time?

Stan, correct me if I'm wrong. I believe beyond any doubt the Scriptures confirming Jesus is God, including the direct claims references. For "proskuneo", I think it can refer to the kneeling at the feet of a higher authority, like a king or a master of slaves. The context can decide the implication of the "proskuneo". For Cornelius, Peter was aware he was not his master or Roman authority, hence he needed to stop Cornelius from giving him such honour otherwise meant for God in that situation. For the angel, he stated that he was a servant like John, and God is the Master of them both, hence this homage must be directed to Him. The Roman soldiers who mocked Jesus after putting on Him the thorny crown, was sarcastically playing with Him by kneeling to Him as the supposed to them King of the Jews. Matt 18:26 stated the servant "proskuneo" before his human master. But regarding the spiritual realm, angels cannot receive this act from human beings, in particular the servants of God.

Excellent work, Stan.

What do you mean 'you cannot....'? IF God tells you to bend your knee to something/someone are you saying that you cannot do what God has instructed you to do? Yes, we can glorify the father through the son and bow to the Son OF God that God sent to be Savior and King over. Would you like to tell us that humans didn't bow to human kings on earth in Israel? I have no problem saying 'worship' to Jesus as a 2nd one that is sent by the true 1 Almighty God. BUT at no time is Jesus in any form the #1. That alone belongs to Jehovah God- The Father :)

Amen to all those verses, I used to be in the cult. I could plainly see how they refused to give worship to Jesus, maybe that's why I left. I learned some Greek at the same time, thank you!

This is not only a misleading presentation, but somewhat dishonest. It tells us more about the presenter's presuppositions and ignorance of the change of meaning of words and bias in Bible translations. He begins by giving his definition of proskyneo and puts the emphasis on worship. He tries to demonstrate that you cannot worship humans, angels, but only God. Yet, if you google "proskyneo definition" the top of the page states : "The verb (proskyneo) is often used in the Septuagint and the New Testament for the worship of pagan gods and the worship of the God of Israel. In addition, this word for in some cases used in the worship of angels....." So, despite what he claims, proskyneo can be used in reference to the worship of angels. Furthermore, the word simply means to bow down , to prostrate onself before a superior and is used in this context many times in the Bible, as individuals bow down before a King, Lord or Master. So why, in these instances, do most Bibles never use the word worship? The answer is obvious : Context! It is clear that the people are not giving worship to an individual, but simply showing honour. This also tells us about the presupposition of the presenter and many Bible translations. They have already assumed Jesus to be God and so use the translation 'worship' to support this idea, when in fact they could simply have used other renderings such as bow down, prostrate, revere, do obeisance etc . These renderings would not only be equally valid, but often make more sense in the context. Indeed, that is why in some translations, other than rthe NWT, such renderings of proskyneo are frequently used, even of Jesus. The presenter fails to point out that the word 'worship' as used in the old King James Bible of the 1600s has a much broader meaning than it does today eg Judges being called "Youe Worship." Finally, one of the passages the presenter uses to try to prove his thesis is the famous temptation account. But he misses the obvious : If Jesus is himself the God of the Bible, the Devil would be unable to tempt him. You cannot tempt God and certainly the God of all creation would not be tempted by the offer of the Kingdoms of the world. Surely the very fact that the Devil tries to tempt Jesus tells us that he is NOT God. The presenter has failed to make his case and simply shown us his ignorance and bias.

You’re adorable, thank you

In the New world translation it says obeisance. it doesn't switch from english to another language. I'm not a witness but have their bible. In revelations there is no disagreement with Jehovah Witnesses.

Thank you for this! Recently I've been contemplating this, and my world would honestly crumble if Jesus was not Yahweh 😔

Even a Christian cannot brush aside the worship of Jehovah as God. In Revelation 1:5 the Son of God called himself "Jesus Christ, 'The Faithful Witness.'" When on earth as a man he was a Jew, an Israelite, to whose nation the words of Isaiah 43:10 were written: "'You are my witnesses, 'is the utterance of Jehovah, 'even my servant whom I have chosen.'" Jesus demonstrated that he was a faithful and true witness of Jehovah God. His genuine disciples today must be the same kind of witnesses, Jehovah's.

Thank you brother 123 AMEN GLORY TO GOD IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF CHRIST JESUS

Sad thing is, we, indeed, can answer these questions, but when we post them here, they get deleted.

so we can only worship God and Jesus accepts worship so He is God? 3 amen amen amen

Here is where logic come in. Do you worship or honor a king? This same word is used when doing obeisance. God installed Jesus as King. One honors Jesus in worship of Jehovah.

Greetings Stan, I agree with you that proskuneo means prostate oneself in the ground to show a deep level of respect and adoration. However it does not mean “religious type worship”. No were does Jesus ever receive “religious type worship”. There are specific Greek words for “religious type worship” and they are never used of Jesus. The act of proskuneo was never reserved for a god. It was word that was used for people in a higher station of life. In today's world it would be equivalent to saluting a superior officer, standing for a Judge when he entrees or leaves his cor room, bowing to royalty. In the days the Bible was written it was used among the Orientals, esp. the Persians, to fall upon the knees and touch the ground with the forehead as an expression of profound reverence. In the NT by kneeling or prostration to do homage (to one) or make obeisance, whether in order to express respect or to make supplication in the various ways used of homage shown to men and beings of superior rank to the Jewish high priests to God to Christ to heavenly beings In Acts 10:3, Cornelius had been visited by an angel. As the account continues Peter also is visited by an angel. We are not told but the sense we get is that Cornelius felt that Peter was holy , and, thus of a higher station to himself. In keeping with the use of the word proskuneo, Cornelius wants to who Peter honour and respect because Peter was sent by the angel. Why does Peter refuse the honour? Because he is not superior to Cornelius It is the same in Revelation 19. The angel did not deserve to receive extra honour as a superior because the angle was a συνδουλος “fellow servant” of God. H was not John’s superior and not deserving of being shown honour. The angel tells John to show honour and respect. to God. The text DOES NOT SAY that prokuneo IS ONLY for God. To say that is reading into the text what is not there the correct literal rendering of Matthew 4:9-10 into English is… and he-is-saying to-him these all to-you I-shall-be-giving if-ever falling you-should-be-honouring to-me then is-saying to-him the Jesus be-you-going-away Satan it-has-been-written for lord the god of-you you-shall-be-honouring and to-him only you-shall-be-giving-divine-service Satan did not want Jesus to give him religious type worship. He just want some honour and respect from Jesus as a superior

The 8 members of the Governing Body of JW will go for ever in the Fire because they changed the word of God. God bless you Bro for your teaching

Thank you for the challenge you issued to JWs, to answer your question. I am not a JW, but I will accept the chalenge to answer your question in my own behalf and in the interests of biblical truth and integrity. Right from the start I am forced to take exception to the trinitarian logic in your line of argument, and in your conclusion. Father + Son + Spirit = God. If we express this mathematically, 1+1+1=1. Mathematically this doesn't work. 1+1+1 should =3 not 1. There is a similar trinitarian logic in your question. 1- You quote Acts 10:25,26 From this scripture you prove that HUMANS CAN'T BE WORSHIPED. 2- Next you now take us to Rev 19:9,10. To prove that ANGELS CAN'T BE WORSHIPED. 3- Next you quote Mat 4:9,10 To prove from Jesus reply to Satan's temptation, that ONLY GOD IS WORSHIPED. From these 3 scriptures you conclude that Jesus can't possibly be a created being. Since, as you have just shown from scripture, ONLY GOD CAN BE WORSHIPED. You now introduce a series of scriptures which according to your interpretation and logic prove that Jesus (the man) is God. WHY? Because he (Jesus) was worshiped. And there you have it! Its so simple! How can anyone miss it? Jesu must be God! Because Jesus was worshipped (he accepted it) and only God is to be worshipped. I don't have time here to examine all the scriptures you considered. Lets examine Acts 10:25,26 The first scripture you quoted. Because if your premise holds true for this scripture. It should theoretically hold true for all the others scriptures as well. But if it doesn't hold true. Your arguments would seem to be flawed right from the start. Let's examine Acts 10:25,26 and as it came, that Peter entered in, Cornelius having met him, having fallen at his feet, did bow before him; Notice how Young's Literal Translation renders the Greek word προσεκύνησεν (prosekynēsen) as bowed. Strong's Analytical Concordance assigns the Greek word prosekynēsen the following meaning. SEE Strong's Greek 4352;: From pros and a probable derivative of kuon; to fawn or crouch to, i.e. prostrate oneself in homage. Not in worship! Many bible translations, translate προσεκύνησεν as homage, adored, bowed. I like the way the NIV translates Acts 10:25; As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence. A lot of people are not going to like this. But I find that the JWs New World Translation is also accurate in its translation of this scripture. As Peter entered. Cornelius met him, fell down at his feet and did (prosekynēsen) obeisance to him. It could be argue that you have the majority of translators in your favour. Because most translations render prosekynēsen as worship. So who is right? Is this word (prosekynēsen) intended to be worship, like the worship one gives to God alone. Or is it a form of worship given as a form of obeisance as rendered by the NWT. You interpret worship to be the worship that is exclusively given to God. Your entire argument rests on this premise. And it's here that most commentators and Bible scholars don't support your conclusions and your interpretation of prosekynēsen. I suspect you knew this, but conveniently ignored this fact. Here is what Barnes has to say about the meaning of prosekynēsen in Acts 10:25 Fell down at his feet - This was an act of profound regard for him as an ambassador of God. In Oriental countries it was usual for persons to prostrate themselves at length on the ground before men of rank and honor. "Worshiped him" This does not mean religious homage, but civil respect - the homage, or profound regard which was due to one in honor. According to Barnes this is not worship in a religious sense. As you interpret it. But in a civil form of respect as homage, intended to honour a person. And the vast majority of scholars support this interpretation of προσεκύνησεν. Here is what Vincent's Word Studies has to say; Worshiped (προσεκύνησεν) An unfortunate translation, according to modern English usage, but justified by the usage of earlier English, according to which to worship meant simply to honor. Worship is worthship, or honor paid to dignity or worth. This usage survives in the expressions worshipful and your worship. In the marriage-service of the English Church occurs the phrase, "With my body I thee worship." So Wycliffe renders Matthew 19:19, "Worship thy father and thy mother;" and John 12:26, "If any man serve me, my Father shall worship him." Here the meaning is that Cornelius paid reverence by prostrating himself after the usual oriental manner. On the basis of this evidence Your premise is wrong right from the start. And your argument rests on scriptures that are not applicable to your conclusion. In the logic of Mathematics 1+1+1=3 But language doesn't work this way. Language has lots of meanings, which, we might say, alter the value of 1. This is what trinitarians so often do. They use philosophical explanation to explain an incomprehensible mistery. How 1+1+1=1 And it just doesn't work. What never ceases to amaze me is how trinitariians use the incarnation to explain away scripture. For example, If a scripture says that Jesus called God "his God". Trinitarians will argue that he did so because Jesus was a man (incarnate). But when it suits them they will argue from an opposite point of view. Just lIke you do in your argument. They (trinitarians) will argue that, since Jesus was a man and received worship, which you conclude is only given to God. Therefore he (Jesus) must be God. How convenient! when a scripture calls into question his divinity of Jesus, he was just a man. But when he receives obeisance (worship) as a man of God. This is misconstrued as worship that belongs to God and subsequently becomes undeniable proof that Jesus is God Another thing that never ceases to amaze me, is how trinitarians so often twist logic and scripture to prove their inexplicable and incomprehensible mystery. That 1+1+1=1 and often try to make it fit into the Bible. For example Trinitarians accept that Jesus Christ is the Jewish Messiah. And Messiah came to earth as a perfect man, without sin, to redeem us. But trinitarians never consider the question, to redeem us from what? To redeem us from Adamic sin. The ransom is required by God to erase Adamic sin from us, together with the consequences of that sin. But what they so often fail to consider is how in the Bible God showed that in order to forgive sin through sacrifice, the services of a third party to serve as a mediator is required. This third party must be a human, a person separate distinct. that stands apart from God as the representative of those who are ransomed. Humanity are the beneficiaries of the ransom exchange. This requires the services of a priest. In the case of the Old Covenant, a Levitical priests where appointed by God . In the case of the New Covenant a King Priest in the likeness of Melchizedek is required. Jesus therefore can't be God + the sacrifice + the Priest. Why? because if he is all these 3 things all rolled into one, It represents a clear conflict of interest and it defeats the purpose of a ransom. The whole thing becomes an exercise in judicial futility. And makes a mockery of God's perfect justice. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. Or a perfect man for a perfect man. God might as well have forgiven us our inherited Adamic sin right from the start and spared us all the subsequent misery and human suffering that followed, If he (God) intended to ransom us himself, why require a ransom at all? God's ransoming us himself would serve no objective in justice at all. Since he is the one who both requires (exacts) the ransom and furnishes it what justice is served by such an action. A ransom is a price, set in exchange and it requires the services of an independent third party to pay the price and to mediate between God and man. SEE 1Tim 2:5. You are mistaken about who Christ Jesus is. If you think he (Jesus) is God and God ransomed us. READ John 3:16. He (Jesus) is the Son of God. READ Philippians 2:11

Wow, I really want that Greek/English software but of all the things you listed, it’s not among them. What software is this?

Amen to all,,, thank you so much

Sorry, Jesus isn’t God, nor equal to God. He called our God and Father his God and Father at John 20:17. See also: 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 4 Now concerning the eating of food offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world and that there is no God but one. 5 For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him. And…… John 17:3 “This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.” The only true God…..

They change the word to obeisance wherever it says worship. Do both words mean the same?

You are confusing people, by using the word worship for the word obeisance, the Jews would never worship Jesus, or would anyone else who knew he was proving he was the promised Messiah sent to Israel, from Almighty God Jehovah, the one God of the Bible. Exodus 20: 2

I have a friend who is JW and I really did not know more of ways to show him because the common ways should be true enough but they are difficult to reach with their own Bible.. but with this, I can show him in his own JW bible...thank you!

Amen! Amen! Amen! What a great analysis! 🙏👍🙏

God bless you for the biblical explanation!

Hebrews 1:6.

the original greek word - proskunew - also means the following :3) in the NT by kneeling or prostration to do homage (to one) or make obeisance, whether in order to express respect or to make supplication 3a) used of homage shown to men and beings of superior rank So those apply to Jesus as Jesus is King of kings and has become (future tense-will) a Mighty God (Not ALmighty God and Creator) Isa 9:6

3 amens, got what you mean, god to be worshipped, one thing the jehovah witnesses dont do,

Amen, Amen, Amen!

The Greek word proskuneō can be translated into various meanings. Jesus himself used it in his example of the King and his slave. Matthew 18:26 KJV The servant therefore fell down, and WORSHIPED him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. Other translations use other words, such as honour, bend the knees to, bow down etc. Thus, taking the word worship to show that Jesus was God makes no sense. Peter was worshipped. Plenty of people are worshiped in everyday life. People in high positions are addressed as 'Your worship'. If Jesus wanted worship of any kind why did he say: (Matthew 20:28) Just as the Son of man came, NOT TO BE MINISERED TO, but to minister and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.” Jesus is a SLAVE of God.

This poster is not making any valid points! I am not a JW but have had many serious discussions with them on this and similar subjects! I know for a fact that they fully understand all the know points this guy is making! what do they prove? Only that the word 'proskeneo' can mean a DEGREE of reverence & worship. Unlike catholics & protestants who 'worship' saints and even Jesus Christ, leaving the worship of the FATHER completely out of their minds! They do not pray to the Father THROUGH Jesus Christ, and worship GOD THE FATHER, again THROUGH Jesus Christ, though Jesus himself taught us do do that very thing! See John 14:6.

The problem with clickbait titles is they're a designed attempt to bring self glory or entrap the vulnerable or make unwarranted attacks on those who genuinely desire to worship God in spirit and truth, it is said that only 10% truth is 100% misleading so whilst your knowledge of Greek is clear you have in your comments to others admitted that the word for worship can be used in differing contexts, and yet you didn't explain that in your video to your viewers and subscribers? so that begs the question are you looking to gain more subscribers by using underhanded attacks on JWs or do you genuinely want to help others? The bottom line is not presenting 100% of the facts is just treating the unwary, or those less informed with contempt, your saying 'listen to my voice, my voice and knowledge is what you should listen to, my explanations are the most logical, my reasoning is fair and educated, my education in greek and semantics is cleverer than others and deserves respect because I'm trying to help you' whereas the reality is you've chosen a line of reasoning that JWs would agree with in part, in fact most of it, and you know that already, and you will also know JWs can answer your 3 questions no problem, but most will not be drawn into futile reasoning and debates, all kinds of slander gets thrown at JWs, and they expect it, Jesus said his followers would be persecuted and hated, so whilst you present a glossed over attack it is really a thin veneer, because any truth loving person will seek 100% truth not partial truth's..........The answer to who Jesus was and his relationship to his heavenly father Jehovah is very neatly summed up by the very apostle John you quoted several times, John chapter 8 puts firmly to bed any doubt as to the relationship between Jesus as a son and him being a separate person to his father in heaven, Almighty God, Jehovah. You can pick any bible translation you want past or present and there is just no getting away with Jesus own words recorded by someone very close to him, the Apostle John in John chapter 8. They are both the ultimate authority on the ancient Greek translation and meaning because one spoke the words and the other wrote it, both under inspiration of holy spirit from God,,,,,,,,,,So for any lover of truth read John chapter 8.

I agree amen, I do it understand the g b that seems to me they want worship they should not only be ashSmed the congregations thT worship the g b are sinning , they do not read the bible or they would know better

'Prokeno' Is used in the bible for a WIDE spectrum of actions as the above gentleman realises. It can refer to just the 'respect' & 'honour' given to a MAN or expressed more strongly to an angel, to Jesus or even God himself! The fact that the disciples 'bowed down' to Jesus was an obvious act of obeisance to Jesus, acknowledging him as the "Son of God" (Matt 16:16). However when Jesus told us that the "True worshippers must worship the FATHER in Spirit and truth" (John 4:23,24) He obviosly meant that their FULL devotion and recognition of their love for thr supreme being was involved! They observed Jesus Himself give such 'extreme 'proskeno' to God at Matt 11:25 when Jesus said "I publically PRAISE you Lord of Heaven & earth...". So These points in NO WAY suggest that Jesus is GOD, but his own Son who WORSHIPS Him"! 'He is MY GOD, MY FATHER" Jesus told Mary! ( I am not a JW!)

I think you are being a little deceiving in your video and so are misleading many, for the following reasons: OK, so the Greek word which many translation translate as "worship" is proskuneó and according to STRONG's concordance for Bible words. as well as many others states the following for the Greek word "proskuneó" ......... "I go down on my knees to, do obeisance to kiss the hand tenderly.. proskynéō (from 4314 /prós, "towards" and kyneo, "to kiss") - properly, to kiss the ground when prostrating before a superior; to worship, ready "to fall down/prostrate oneself to adore on one's knees. So let me ask you this, "what is wrong with giving proskynéō to Jesus, it is NOT the same as the worship we give to his father Yehovah ??? Did you know that people in the Bible were given proskynéō does that mean that they were worshipped in the same way that we worship God ? For example if you were to give proskynéō to the queen of England, and bow when meeting her, would that be worship ? Of course not ! By the same token, if you were to bow down before an alter of Budda for example would that be considered worship in this sense of the word ? More than likely it would! So you see it all depends who you are giving proskynéō to and the context. I think it is very disingenuous to use the word proskynéō in blanket, one size fits all terminology, especially from someone like yourself who purports to understand Greek ! Sometimes you have to look at the original Greek and what it ACTUALLY MEANS, or rather what the koine Greek meant !

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Revelation 19:10) At that I fell down before his feet to worship him. But he tells me: “Be careful! Do not do that! I am only a fellow slave of you and of your brothers who have the work of witnessing concerning Jesus. Worship God! For the witness concerning Jesus is what inspires prophecy.” In connection with the respect paid to Jesus, the word often used is pro·sky·neʹo, a word having the basic meaning “do obeisance,” but also translated “worship.” (Mt 2:11; Lu 4:8) Jesus was not accepting worship, which belongs to God alone (Mt 4:10), but recognized the act of the one doing obeisance as recognition of the authority given Him by God. [ The angel whom Jesus Christ sent] to bring the Revelation to John expressed the principle that man’s worship belongs only to God, when he refused to accept worship from John. This is another scripture proving that Jesus is not God because he refused to accept worship from men, also the angel directed John to the only true God, Jehovah not Jesus,

I believe your teachings, ask a Jehovah witness, is Jesus good? They will answer yes ,we know that only God is good, here is where the jws get confuse.

The Bible clearly states that before humans appeared on the earth only Jehovah's family of witnesses existed in the universe. The first witness to leave the family was the angel who became "Satan" the first apostate. Today either one is serving Jehovah or the adversary Satan. There is no sitting on the fence.

I fail to see your point. Lord the God refers to jehovah God. Not jesus. himself At this Satan offered to give jesus all that he seen id jesus would do an act of worship to satan. Jesus It is the the lord thy god you should worship. ] And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. [10] Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve

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You know what’s even funnier I’m gonna say this to everybody in the comments section do you know what’s even funnier. I’m not a Jehovah’s Witness however, I’ve read their doctrine, they always say well Jesus Christ is not Yahweh he’s Michael the Arcadial and the Holy Spirits not God either the Trinity is false it’s pagan ha ha ha ha ha ha we are the true and honest false pagan faith. But here’s the thing though you know your own new world translation teaches that Jesus Christ is Jehovah God. Did you know that Jehovah’s Witnesses ve ve ly say all the time Jehovah God isn’t called Mighty he’s called Al mighty so that goes to show that Jesus Christ saint Jehovah God. Oh really is that a fact, because they always go and say well Jehovah God is never called mighty at any time in scripture really I can name you two passages in your new world translation where Jehovah God is called mighty. Go to Jeremiah chapter 32 verse 18, in the New World translation and also go to Deuteronomy chapter 10 verse 17, then read Isaiah chapter 9 verse six in the New World translation who is the Messiah? Did they say that the Holy Spirit is not Jehovah God either really? Even though second Corinthians chapter 3 verse 12 and 18 in the New World translation says Jehovah the spirit Who is Jehovah God the spirit the Holy Spirit who else. I’m going to give you passages everybody where Jesus is called the Almighty God not only from the New World translation but also from the Bible itself here we go.

I read about the behaviour of the First Century Christian Congregation in the book of Acts and the others letters. I just couldn't find a single incident of Jesus being worshiped. Was it the duty of the apostate church to correct the flaw? And that too at a Council presided on by a PAGAN Roman Emperor. Strange!

The Morning star was spoken about Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon that is not Satan being discussed in Isaiah. If you read that passage you'll notice that it's talking about "a man" Satan was never a man. God promoted Jesus (elevated) Jesus to a "higher position" at that point it was acceptable for God to have his son worshiped. (Philippians 2) He was the begotten of God and not a creation. As such he was literally a genetic build of God as was Eve Begotten of Adam. Before that time period (his resurrection) Jesus always said that he was not equal the father. Even Jesus admitted this (John 14:28) Jesus never claimed to "be" God. Worship to Jesus is another thing. At the end of the 1000 year worship who does Jesus turn authority back over to? 1 Cor 15:24-28

#1. Amen. Agreed (however some have noted that the word "human" is not a biblical word but a "legal" word.) # 2. Amen. Agreed...... #3. Amen.

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It seems there were people in here that are unknown to themselves rebellious. But. I think all of the children are rebels at some point. HEAVENLY FATHER knows this. It is the flesh. We carry it until He returns for His church. Keep the faith. Love ya'll

Did you actually go and talk to a knowledgeable Jehovah Witness about this? Or is this a rhetorical video to put down other people without a genuine communication?

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Jesus is first and last. First to be resurected by Jah and last to be resurected by Jah. All othe resurection to take place by Jesus . Alpha and omega is Jah. The completion and total amount. First and last . Is not the first through the last. Google. The missing alpha and omege. Talks about the added Alpha and omega listed in Rev.

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Correct me if I’m wrong but this video seems a bit disingenuous to the Koine Greek language and the audience. So my question: Is the only application of the Koine Greek word προσεκύνησαν only to mean “Worship” in a English? If not then how do you determine the difference of meaning applicable to where, how and who the word was used? Examplem Matthew 15:25 - NAS: But she came and [began] to bow down before Him, saying Matthew 8:2 - NAS: came to Him and bowed down before Him, and said Matthew 9:18 - NAS: came and bowed down before Him, and said, INT: certain having come knelt down to him saying Matthew 20:20 - NAS: to Jesus with her sons, bowing down and making a request INT: sons of her kneeling down and asking Yet KJV has worship in all scriptures with Matthew 20:20 refers to Jesus

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3 and Amen!!! The only thing is, or the BIG thing rather is that Satan is not the Morning Star, Satan is Lucifer son of the morning! The Morning Star or Bright and Morning Star is a title that goes to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

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Excuse me, how do you explain the fact that proskuneo it is used also to the meaning of to do obeisance to an important man like for example a king? Matthew 18.26 says: «The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.» Here "him" is just a man, a king! In the Greek text we have: ὁ δοῦλος (the slave) προσεκύνει (was doing obeisance) αὐτῷ (to him). We translate "was doing obeisance" but Greek has προσεκύνει (prosekynei). So for Jehovah’s Witnesses Jesus is The Messiah King! This is why they did prosekynei to him.

All 12 tribs will be judged at the KINGDOM hall of fod of haven of God of Israel and judah and Jerusalem and ZION and Gaza

Reading the comments of those that actually understand Greek being translated in English showyour reasoning as as in correct.