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When the US entered World War One, the country had a grand total of 1,453 machine guns, split between 4 different models. This was not a useful inventory to equip even a single division headed for France, and so the US had to look to France for automatic weapons. In June 1917 Springfield Armory tested a French CSRG Chauchat automatic rifle, and found it good enough to inquire about making an American version chambered for the .30-06 cartridge. This happened quickly, and after testing in August 1917, a batch of 25,000 was ordered. Of these, 18,000 were delivered and they were used to arm several divisions of American troops on the Continent.
Unfortunately, the American Chauchat was beset by extraction problems. These have today be traced to incorrectly cut chambers, which were slightly too short and caused stuck cases when the guns got hot. It is unclear exactly what caused the problem, but the result was that most of the guns were restricted to training use (as best we can tell today), and exchanged for French 8mm Chauchats when units deployed to the front. Today, American Chauchats are extremely rare, but also very much under appreciated for their role as significant American WWI small arms.
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@spvrda
@spvrda 29 дней назад
Morphy employees had to lure Ian out of the room by shaking a bag of .32 French Long ammo after filming this video
@M.RQ.Mittag910
@M.RQ.Mittag910 29 дней назад
HAhahaha... good one (I actually just recently watched the 7+ year old video of Ian putting together one of the early prototype firearm display walls with the inventor of the system, when he displays & talks about some of the firearms in his own collection)
@caleblunsford8257
@caleblunsford8257 29 дней назад
*whistles* "Here, boy!"
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 29 дней назад
"hold on, shh, that sounds like someone shaking a bag of 7.65mm French Longue."
@MrNikolai07
@MrNikolai07 29 дней назад
Ian owns one of these I believe.
@zacharydurocher4085
@zacharydurocher4085 29 дней назад
Ahaha
@AARONSHEERN
@AARONSHEERN 29 дней назад
Military: We need machine guns! We're desperate! Lewis Gun: What about me? Military: We're good thanks.
@DarnedYankee
@DarnedYankee 29 дней назад
Britain: WE NEED MACHINE GUNS Lewis: I have a design Britain: WE’LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien 28 дней назад
The Lewis weight twice a Chauchat and cost 3times more: this is the real explanation…
@TheTrueNorth11
@TheTrueNorth11 28 дней назад
@@leneanderthalienBut they were far better, far more reliable firearms.
@jamesricker3997
@jamesricker3997 28 дней назад
Ironically, they also had the BAR
@TheTrueNorth11
@TheTrueNorth11 28 дней назад
@@jamesricker3997 Not really.
@patrickwentz8413
@patrickwentz8413 29 дней назад
I love how, at about the 5-minute mark, the Chauchat flops over by itself as it faints. So the gun was so bad it even scared itself. LoL.
@theeyesofryan
@theeyesofryan 29 дней назад
It gave me that vibe of when I'm exhausted after work and I jus flop onto my bed like "annnnnd I'm done"
@mpk6664
@mpk6664 28 дней назад
This made me laugh more than it should've
@rogerjohnson8707
@rogerjohnson8707 28 дней назад
Ian personally owns of of these. Curious if it's his gun for sale.
@ihcfn
@ihcfn 28 дней назад
@@rogerjohnson8707 He said he's been assured that it runs ok, so no.
@jon9021
@jon9021 28 дней назад
It’s French, so it probably surrendered..sorry I’m English, it comes naturally to us.
@Vtarngpb
@Vtarngpb 29 дней назад
Something tells me the rejection of Lewis guns in .30-06 came from a certain William Crozier 😡
@nickthompson9697
@nickthompson9697 29 дней назад
I feel like Lazerpig could make a whole video roasting him.
@jmjedi923
@jmjedi923 29 дней назад
​@@nickthompson9697maybe, he usually does videos on vehicles not weapons
@jon-paulfilkins7820
@jon-paulfilkins7820 29 дней назад
@@nickthompson9697 C&Arsenal have made it something of a running joke ;)
@greycatturtle7132
@greycatturtle7132 29 дней назад
Yea
@jebdunkins6796
@jebdunkins6796 29 дней назад
Is that the guy who stopped the US Army from buying Lewis Guns because he had a grudge against Lewis?
@kmech3rd
@kmech3rd 29 дней назад
Are we SURE the designers weren't secretly Elbonian in heritage?
@patrickwentz8413
@patrickwentz8413 29 дней назад
Fifth columnist Elbonians infiltrating the French Arms industry!
@rodrigodepierola
@rodrigodepierola 29 дней назад
That's a question for 23andMe.😂
@Canushowmeonthedoll
@Canushowmeonthedoll 29 дней назад
Scott Adams was right.
@ringding1000
@ringding1000 29 дней назад
Yeah, you can be sure this was a true French idea of it era. That's not to say that the Elbonians weren't declaring it to be the best idea since the portable outhouse and pounding the table for it, (I think the Elbonians still issue it even yet today for their high speed low drag operators). And it's arguably better idea than the German Mg 08/15 version of their standard Maxim.
@OldManAndTheSeaOfTooManyCats
@OldManAndTheSeaOfTooManyCats 28 дней назад
Seeing the field strip the spirit of John Browning smacks his forehead…
@exharkhun5605
@exharkhun5605 29 дней назад
The word you're looking for isn't "forgotten", it's "denial". 😁
@rodrigodepierola
@rodrigodepierola 29 дней назад
You win the internet today
@Gjoufi
@Gjoufi 28 дней назад
Yeah I thought repressed traumatic experience would fit but denial is much shorter 🤣
@TheWineGuy101
@TheWineGuy101 29 дней назад
5:00 "you would think this simpler magazine would be a better design... but it's kind of not, really." M1918 - "aw 😞" *falls over*
@sifuhotman1300
@sifuhotman1300 28 дней назад
Cute reaction... Poor gun :')
@markfergerson2145
@markfergerson2145 28 дней назад
Might be why it spit out the end cap later in retaliation.
@BleedingUranium
@BleedingUranium 27 дней назад
@@markfergerson2145 The end cap flying off is a defence mechanism when threatened.
@villev8844
@villev8844 27 дней назад
"This is my Chauchat. There are't many like it, but this one is mine."
@Choningana
@Choningana 21 день назад
Eight-milimeter LEBEL.. Full Metal JACKET!
@pieshka4509
@pieshka4509 28 дней назад
3:00 Ian: for the first 2 divisions that are being sent over- My brain: OVER THERE!... OVER THERE!.. SEND THE WORD, SEND THE WORD, OVER THERE!
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 27 дней назад
It's probably just a coincidence, but the fact that it looks exactly like it was made from actual bicycle frame tubing really drives home that "made in a bicycle factory" thing. :)
@Tippet76
@Tippet76 13 дней назад
Thinking on it, its probably not a coincidence. If they had a massive bicycle factory that was used to making tube frames why not keep it as close to what they know how to make as possible.
@user-er3lt1cp8p
@user-er3lt1cp8p 11 дней назад
The bipod made from a bicycle stand is going a little too far tho
@josephd.5524
@josephd.5524 28 дней назад
'Happy as Ian in a French Armory.'
@bebopwing1
@bebopwing1 29 дней назад
"Putting the vertical grip way out here is just too far to be useful" Daniel Defense says hold my beer and watch this!
@RonJeremy514
@RonJeremy514 25 дней назад
"So here is our 18" rifle, we have a grip at about 18" too. Careful where you place your fingers..."
@ianloughney9570
@ianloughney9570 28 дней назад
It's so weird to think of this as a competitor to the BAR. The BAR just seems miles and miles ahead as far as modernity, quality, usability, really everything.
@tylersmith3139
@tylersmith3139 26 дней назад
Is it really though. The fire rate of the Chauchat is a lot more realistic for 15-20 round mags than the BAR which fires quickly with a small mag. The original BAR overheats quickly and doesn't have any tweaks like a shroud to reduce heat. It just isn't that advanced for it's time.
@ianloughney9570
@ianloughney9570 26 дней назад
​@@tylersmith3139 I think you have some misconceptions here. The fire rate of the BAR in low is effectively identical to that of the chauchat, they just eventually got rid of the low bc it was one of the few truly bad features of the BAR. In fact, in general extremely low fire rates for LMGs were a feature that, even by WW1, was pretty obsolete. Especially to be included as the sole fire mode for the chauchat. Walking fire was always a joke and that alone is a big part of the reason the BAR lasted and the chauchat didn't. Also, idk what you're basing your overheating issue claim on, but that is also simply wrong. For an MG, the relatively low fire rate and mag capacity on the BAR ensure that it's pretty difficult to overheat. Now, later model BARs did use cooling fins on the barrel (yet another thing your comment was wrong about), but that was for longevity and handling, not in-combat functional overheating issues. Look, you may not like it, but fact is the BAR was really really advanced for it's time. Was it the perfect gun? No, there are better LMGs today. But, was it miles better than basically any other option in 1918 and made the chauchat look like a joke? Yes, absolutely. Hell, the US used it for so long that when it left service it was competing with the M240, and that's still standard issue today! There's a reason it's the longest serving light MGs in US military history.
@diooverheaven6561
@diooverheaven6561 22 дня назад
​@@ianloughney9570i wouldn't say it was miles better than all the competition as Lewis and Madsen were also fine weapons to my knowlage. Hell Madsen is still used today by brazilian police
@cgi2002
@cgi2002 19 дней назад
​@@ianloughney9570 in fairness the biggest issues with the BAR were all relatively easily fixed as it was tweaked throughout its lifetime. That said the US military managed to keep its biggest issue when it came to using it for basicslly its whole lifespan. The god awful control setup, the lack of a pistol grip made it so much less user friendly than nearly anything else you could find, the few versions of it with that as standard are so much more comfortable to use and becsuse of that so much easier to be accurate with.
@ianloughney9570
@ianloughney9570 19 дней назад
@@cgi2002 Definitely agreed, there's a reason it got an A1 and A2. And really IMO the fatal flaw that finally did kill it was its weight, they could never really incrementally improve that out lol. But yeah, like I said, its not like the BAR was a perfect gun, hell it's been obsolete for 50 years. But compared to the chauchat, or even the lewis or madsen as another guy mentioned, it was lightyears ahead.
@Arthurzeiro
@Arthurzeiro 29 дней назад
Ian makes a Chauchat video without saying "cachunk" once? Inconceivable
@NephilBlade
@NephilBlade 28 дней назад
Inconcevable!
@LordEvan5
@LordEvan5 27 дней назад
I don't think you know what that word means, and if you do it doesn't mean what you think it means.
@thealmightyaku-4153
@thealmightyaku-4153 29 дней назад
5:00 The gun was so shocked by the insult, it fainted
@Fliss317
@Fliss317 29 дней назад
Chauchat LMGs were used in Spain during the Spanish Civil War: it is entirely possible that someone got good with one back in the late 1930s!
@diegoferreiro9478
@diegoferreiro9478 29 дней назад
If I am not mistaken those were the French pattern, and they should arrived in small quantities to the Republican side. From the logistics point of view, the Nationalist side was a nightmare, while the Republican was hell. I guess all existing calibers of the time were present at some point or another.
@paulbeesley8283
@paulbeesley8283 29 дней назад
I seen to recall that the in the second War, the Waffen SS, got lumbered with some. They must have been desperate.
@voiceofraisin3778
@voiceofraisin3778 28 дней назад
Given the reports from the International brigade im going to go with a solid no on that! The Chauchat was badly assembled and needed skilled well trained operators, the ones the republic got were clapped out WW1 relics that had been badly stored and were operated by unskilled amateurs. Most opinions on it were that youd be lucky to get a 2 round burst before something fell off.
@ciamciaramcia99
@ciamciaramcia99 28 дней назад
@@diegoferreiro9478 The quantities weren't that small (atleast not for spanish civil war). Poland had almost 12000 Chauchats in early 20s, later in the same decade they converted half of them from 8mm Lebel to 7.92mm Mauser, and in 1936-37 sold 2650 abroad, mostly to Republican Spain and Mexico, who themselves were 3rd biggest arms supplier (after Poland and soviet Union) to Republicans.
@panagiotiskostarellis742
@panagiotiskostarellis742 27 дней назад
Well Hellenic Army got French surpluses and used it extensively in 1919 Odessa campaign, 1919-1922 Asia Minor Campaign and of course in 1940-41 . In fact it was our main SAW and we produced 8 mmR Lebel for that reason. My Grandfather fought with this in Greco-Italian war for 6 months. He was drafted back in 1934 and in the meantime took part in 3 month long manoeuvres. So, lot of retraining. He never mentioned malfunctions, fault case rejection or difficulties in operating the machine. Only complaint was limited ammo. So now after Ian explaining manufacturing deficiencies, i am convinced about bad the source of bad reputation.
@chubbycatfish4573
@chubbycatfish4573 29 дней назад
Ian should do an entire video in French for an April Fool's joke.
@Justanotherconsumer
@Justanotherconsumer 28 дней назад
Or just to expand to a francophone audience? Maybe a crossover with Gilles Messier?
@RonJeremy514
@RonJeremy514 25 дней назад
@@Justanotherconsumer Pretty sure all the french firearm enthusiasts on RU-vid already know about Ian.
@LRK-GT
@LRK-GT 29 дней назад
It's been over a hundred years, and as far as we know, no one has made repro Chauchats. Considering, the STEN is equally 'cost optimized', that really says something about the Chauchat...
@matthewwagner9350
@matthewwagner9350 25 дней назад
there is a replica bfong chauchat coming onto market for the ww1 reenactors
@shawnmiller4781
@shawnmiller4781 24 дня назад
It’s a product of its era. Remember the Sten came out twenty years later after a lot of lessons had been learned
@mimicrymwot
@mimicrymwot 22 дня назад
An important thing to remember is that creating a reproduction of a historical firearm is very expensive. Such a product would not be targeted at mass market (pretty much any LMG would be better for recreational/sportive shooting), but for a relatively small - and very accuracy-demanding collectors' market. So you have to set up a unique production line for a mechanically complex - well, at least compared to a stamped subgun like Sten - gun (which, by the way, you almost certainly would have to reverse-engineer yourself, as I highly doubt there is the technical package available in public), with an infamously finicky proprietary magazine, in a semi-proprietary cartridge that almost no-one used or produced in large quantities for 80 years. And then you would have to make profit with the target audience of several hundred people. It took decades for someone to risk trying to produce and sell STG44 repros, and it is an iconic, German (!), WW2 (!) gun that pioneered an entire weapon class of assault rifles. In no way anyone would invest in reproducing a crappy, French, WW1, LMG, the only notable things about which are how quickly everyone ditched it as soon as they had access to anything better, and how low was the -BAR- bar to be better then Chauchat.
@andythem320guy9
@andythem320guy9 29 дней назад
You did prove in project lightening that both versions can work. But, under the right circumstances and training.
@boatrat
@boatrat 28 дней назад
Don't forget all the remedial work needed on the magazines!
@HussarPlays
@HussarPlays 29 дней назад
I looked at the thumbnail with my drowsy morning eyes and was like: “What kind of newfangled mall-ninja ar15 is this?”
@danielboudreau8404
@danielboudreau8404 29 дней назад
There's nothing like starting your Saturday morning with a plesant video from Forgotten Weapons.
@BadBomb555
@BadBomb555 28 дней назад
Ian: _And you might think this would be a much better design, but it's kind of not really._ Merican Chauchat: *_Thud_*
@lizardb8694
@lizardb8694 29 дней назад
To quote great american novel: “Ugly frigging thing,” Krazewski said. Crouching over the Chauchat automatic rifle, he yanked at the stock, twisting it on its bipod. “Look at it.” Anton Myrer "Once an Eagle".
@mathewweathers2788
@mathewweathers2788 29 дней назад
These are the best firearm history videos on the internet.
@LD-Orbs
@LD-Orbs 29 дней назад
Ian is doing valuable work. May he prosper greatly!
@iceonthesun8880
@iceonthesun8880 28 дней назад
Only gun channels I watch are Forgotten Weapons and Paul Harrell. Both are informative and straight to the point in regards to the task at hand, with no fluff as a bonus.
@jon-paulfilkins7820
@jon-paulfilkins7820 29 дней назад
Considering what happened after with that weapon, I suspect the reports were not so much lost, more taken round the back, dispatched with a service revolver and left in an unmarked grave.
@huddunlap3999
@huddunlap3999 29 дней назад
And the Army couldn't even catch Pancho Villa
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 27 дней назад
all the Federales say / they could have had him any day / they only let him go so long / out of kindness, I suppose
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 28 дней назад
I understand that Gladiator contracted the magazine production to tin plate toy makers who had the pattern makers and tooling to press them out. However the tooling was made around the thin toy tinplate sheets hence the flexible magazines and the ribbing to try to stiffen them.
@classifiedad1
@classifiedad1 28 дней назад
Did they ever consider just using more than 1 layer?
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 28 дней назад
@@classifiedad1 I doubt if the presses could accommodate a double thickness nor make them to a close enough fit to put two together but I do not actually know the answer.
@StressmanFIN
@StressmanFIN 29 дней назад
Ah yes, the "better than nothing, but not by much" gun.
@CSMwarhammer
@CSMwarhammer 29 дней назад
Is anyone else excited when there is a longer video? It means more history or more interesting mechanisms!
@buncer
@buncer 29 дней назад
Amen.
@Fastwinstondoom
@Fastwinstondoom 29 дней назад
Time to go rewatch Project Lightning!!
@moosemaimer
@moosemaimer 29 дней назад
Who else actually bought it?
@mickleblade
@mickleblade 29 дней назад
That strip down looks loads of fun to strip and fix in a muddy trench
@vincentmueller3717
@vincentmueller3717 29 дней назад
I have a friend who purchased one of these ,without magazine, in the late 90's. He took it to his friend, Max Atchisson, for some help. Max stuffed the mag well with aluminum foil, really tamped it in, then carefully removed it and took some measurements. After some modification and fiddling, he made a Johnson LMG mag somewhat functional in that particular gun. I don't know if it had the chamber modification. If it didn't have a mag, why bother? These were $17-$21 DEWAT guns in the 1960's, and amnesty registration was free. I can see why a $20 live leagal, nonfunctional machine gun could exist, but really, only in this sort of circumstance.
@Hysteria98
@Hysteria98 28 дней назад
Max Atchisson? By chance the same guy who made the AA12?
@vincentmueller3717
@vincentmueller3717 28 дней назад
@Hysteria98 Yes. Max was a long-time Atlanta area resident, who sadly passed in the early 2000's. I was fortunate to shoot several of his different prototype firearms. The Chauchat guy bought several at auction.
@tylerwilliams6022
@tylerwilliams6022 28 дней назад
I never really thought about it, but John Browning had a rather large impact on post WWI MG development. Even though he was nearing the end of his life he still had a big impact on MG evolution. With his 1917, 18, and 19 designs being fielded through most of the 20th Century. With the M2 still in widespread use to this day!
@spencersdh1
@spencersdh1 28 дней назад
The WWII mod for Ravenfield has this American version of the Chauchat. It's coded to jam after the same number of shots with every magazine, and has an animation for the stuck casing being pulled out. There is nothing you can do to avoid this.
@stillhere9728
@stillhere9728 29 дней назад
Chauchat and the phrase “good enough” is an odd combination to say the least
@TitouFromMars
@TitouFromMars 29 дней назад
The chauchat, despite all its flaws, fulfilled its role. So no, "good enough" is exactly the right word.
@DebatingWombat
@DebatingWombat 29 дней назад
@@TitouFromMars And it’s important to recall that its low production cost would mean that the Chauchat was cranked out in astonishing numbers, something not to be sneezed at in a war of attrition where it was one of the few, truly portable, fully automatic weapons available.
@FirstMetalHamster
@FirstMetalHamster 29 дней назад
Well, with enough time and development almost every gun can improve.
@jazzmaster909
@jazzmaster909 29 дней назад
The 280000 "good enough" machine guns you have is better than the 280000 "amazing" machine guns they dont have. Or something to that effect
@iskenuz
@iskenuz 29 дней назад
The Chauchat wasn't actually a bad design. It wasn't a particularly exceptional one, but almost all of its issues have been linked back to the holes in the magazine. In environments that aren't literal hell on earth, it's a little heavy but it tends to run without issues.
@recoilrob324
@recoilrob324 29 дней назад
How many of us tried to pick out all the guns behind Ian on his first video from Morphy's? There's just one I wasn't sure of and he hasn't gotten to it yet...but I'm enjoying this series immensely.
@ReboyGTR
@ReboyGTR 29 дней назад
*Did the Doughboys ever make doughnuts?*
@tim5114
@tim5114 29 дней назад
Dough nuts are what you see when the pillsbury doughboy bends over
@generalawing
@generalawing 29 дней назад
@@tim5114it’s 9 in the morning. I didn’t need to see this.
@johnjimmies8256
@johnjimmies8256 29 дней назад
​@@generalawingsee these dough nuts! HA goteem!
@coryhall7074
@coryhall7074 29 дней назад
Absolutely, doughnuts would have been made at least weekly by both regimental (and perhaps even battalion) kitchens as well as the Red Cross and other civilian organizations
@patrickhuber8630
@patrickhuber8630 29 дней назад
The battlefield of france made them into burned crossaints. Folded over and over and burned out.
@kentuckyduke
@kentuckyduke 28 дней назад
Family legend is my great grandfather was issued one of these in WW1, tossed it and went on with his .45
@tomw.6511
@tomw.6511 29 дней назад
I saw some Chauchats with box magazines in the Belgrade Military Museum. From what I read these must have been Belgian Chauchats sold to Yugoslavia and rechambered from 7.65mm Belgian to 8mm Mauser.
@Sherwoodnt
@Sherwoodnt 28 дней назад
I only know like 0.15% French so at the start, I thought you said "Armes oubliette" and I was like.... yes, I can picture Ian gleefully entering The Gun Pit. Alternatively a fun nickname for your channel.
@tomhalla426
@tomhalla426 29 дней назад
An example of Woodrow Wilson’s denial of the probability of the US getting involved in the war. No real preparations were made prior to the declaration of war, and Springfield and Rock Island had been in very slow production rate compared to TR or Taft administrations.
@hoilst265
@hoilst265 28 дней назад
There's a school of political science thought that, like, half the bad stuff that happened back in the 20th Century can be traced back to Woodrow being an oblivious moron.
@tomhalla426
@tomhalla426 28 дней назад
@@hoilst265 Tommy Wilson was not stupid, he was evil. Joseph Hall-Patton (The Cynical Historian) mocks his own reaction to Woodrow Wilson, which he fully justifies. Aside from being a Fascist before Mussolini invented the term, he was a creatively destructive historian justifying the Southern side in the Civil War. His conduct before and during WWI offended all sides, justifiably. He totally pissed off both the Chinese and Japanese at Versailles, again by being his racist self. Most people know about his offending the Germans, but he egregiously offended the faction of the Republicans in the US who might have backed his policies, so he was assured that they could not pass Congress.
@hoilst265
@hoilst265 28 дней назад
@@tomhalla426 Aye. I'm not American, but I should not have been so glib. I am Chinese-Australian (my Grandfather left in the late 1930s for...obvious reasons, though he was sorta Australian anyway), and while the CCP is rightfully seen as bad today...eh, on the other hand, you can't really blame 'em. The phrase "Century of Humiliation" is not an exaggeration - while Europe, for example, was offered help and support to rebuild after WWI, China was kept as a Western playground.
@mainiac4pats
@mainiac4pats 29 дней назад
Wow what a great job, love to listen to you “wax poetic” about doughboys “wacking poughetically” during their campaign overseas. I never feel that you Ian do anything except deliver. My Uncle Jim Blanchard from South Portland Maine was into all things war related, collectibles, etc. he sadly passed away and now your channel means even more to me. I spent many years looking at the comings and goings of his collection which sprung from the many circles of shows in your area. Thank you Ian, our family represented in the World Wars and all of these things mean a great deal to freedom and the values that we share today.
@blank557
@blank557 29 дней назад
John Moses Browning saw this abomination, and said to himself; "Nope. I can make something better than this for our boys to go to war with."
@skoshman1
@skoshman1 29 дней назад
You mean "I'm already making something better. Better hurry up to get it to troops... working."
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 29 дней назад
And then he made an awesome automatic rifle... that costed almost three times as much to produce as MG42 two decades later😅
@FloodExterminator
@FloodExterminator 29 дней назад
@@TheArklyte To be fair, the BAR is more mechanically complex than the MG42. IIRC, there was a version of the BAR that had a switch that changed the full-auto firing rate.
@ringding1000
@ringding1000 29 дней назад
@@TheArklyte And the Germans couldn't have designed and produced the MG42 2 decades earlier either. And almost 80 years later, ain't no one using the MG42 design either.
@fzyturtle
@fzyturtle 29 дней назад
​@ringding1000 Except for the MG3, which is still in use, and the M60, which is a essentially a blend of the MG42 and FG42 chambered in .308
@Yea_I_Got_Nothing
@Yea_I_Got_Nothing 29 дней назад
Thats a scary looking piece of factory equipment turned in a rifle. 😮
@hoilst265
@hoilst265 28 дней назад
"PIERRE! This machine gun is too long! Tres ridiculous!" "Fine, Jacques. Then we just put the buttstock under then receiver."
@RonJeremy514
@RonJeremy514 25 дней назад
@@hoilst265 "It's not that great Pierre!" "Putain, we have a war to figh we can't spend too much designing and refinig the thing! Send it to the production lines asap!"
@Victini0510
@Victini0510 27 дней назад
Therapist: American Box Mag Chauchat does not exist, it cannot hurt you Ian:
@mhmadgenious
@mhmadgenious 26 дней назад
This is why i watch this channel...the odd and random pieces of firearm history
@6thmichcav262
@6thmichcav262 28 дней назад
9:11: the SPROING!! noise that things make that I have never taken apart before, launching some critical part into the darkest, dustiest corner of my basement, never to be found again...
@chi7891
@chi7891 28 дней назад
Rehbiroll is my favorite French gun designer because he has the coolest name
@jessyzarzan8492
@jessyzarzan8492 25 дней назад
First off, I love your videos. I have been collecting collectorables, war artifacts. Furthermore, a long time I've been collecting swords, bayonets and what not. At the end, I've always found out of my room looks like a pirates hoarding room from the 1700s & 18s. I'm a pirate at a heart and cannot let my sh go.
@bwhog
@bwhog 28 дней назад
One issue with the Chauchat is that it required lubricated ammunition to function well. Did the American gun work around that or did they also have to have oiled cartridges? A point worth making is that in WWI, it was still really difficult to process aluminum and it was something of a wonder metal. So to see it used in this gun is interesting. Also, as I recall, basically no one was really ready for WWI and everyone found themselves QUICKLY short of all sorts of items and had to massively increase production.
@WMAJ6
@WMAJ6 28 дней назад
My great-uncle actually used these during WWI. I can't use the words on here that he used to describe them. Let's just say that he hated them. He said that they were junk that continually jammed and were useless.
@TheIndianalain
@TheIndianalain 26 дней назад
Greetings from Belgium! Bravo for your french, it's actually not bad at all. I don't want to bragg (but I can't resist), but I remember a certain Ian making a video about the Belgian Chauchat and stating it was the best of all. No take back!
@maximeb6662
@maximeb6662 29 дней назад
Got my Ianpat Boonie and just wow, really wanting to get the rest, great video as always!
@user-ek9vo2ub9b
@user-ek9vo2ub9b 28 дней назад
US in 1917: "We have a Cowboy Army! How will we equip them!?" France: "I have an idea!"
@filipeamaral216
@filipeamaral216 29 дней назад
I was missing Chauchat content. Great video, Ian!
@randywatson8347
@randywatson8347 28 дней назад
"'you might think it was a good design , but it's really not''. Rifle goes ''bonk!''.
@scottfoster2639
@scottfoster2639 28 дней назад
Another great video Ian.
@alexeysaphonov232
@alexeysaphonov232 29 дней назад
C'etait une introduction magnifique :)
@jamesjacobson3966
@jamesjacobson3966 28 дней назад
With America rearming prior to Pearl Harbour and Lend Lease underway to supply arms to Britain were any Chauchats available still in the US inventory for 2nd line use at home or for supply to the British Home Guard?
@MadandMajorGaming0
@MadandMajorGaming0 29 дней назад
That smudge on the far left of the wall made me think there was something stuck to my phone screen
@cammobunker
@cammobunker 28 дней назад
It was well known that .30-06 Chauchat machine rifles tended to be "expended in combat" much more than one would think. Between crappy fabrication and that abortion of a magazine the thing was as likely to get you killed as save you. Doughboys tended to report them "lost in combat" which wasn't a lie, although that phrase was more intended for "damaged in fighting" rather than "Thrown in a shell-hole full of water never to be seen again". They would "lose" the .30-06 version and be issued the 8mm version as a replacement. (I read this in several Doughboy memoir books, all of whom seemed to have loathed the American version but found the French version much better. Wish I could remember what they were titled!).
@historysmith9597
@historysmith9597 28 дней назад
I'm not trying to be crude, but those front grips remind me of truck nuts 😂
@user-me8fp2fl9c
@user-me8fp2fl9c 28 дней назад
I've had imagery of this gun in my head for a long time after reading To the Last Man by Jeff Shaara. Wasn't expecting that but I think the author did a great job showing the attitudes towards the gun regardless if it was effective at times or not.
@jongutierrez9116
@jongutierrez9116 28 дней назад
Best intro for a forgotten weapon’s video!
@user-kr7yh8vw9m
@user-kr7yh8vw9m 28 дней назад
Morphy really likes Ian so much to the point they let him see all the French guns he can find and the M1918 Chauchat is one of those despite being also American. That part at the beginning was pure genius.
@boltforward3611
@boltforward3611 28 дней назад
8:50 --> Thanks for the channel shout out Mr. Ian, it means a lot to me!
@ElChris816
@ElChris816 29 дней назад
I just went and watched the Mythbusting video on this gun that Ian did. It's really an amazing machine gun, and like the Lewis, it just screams WW1 badassery. Great video.
@Locutus494
@Locutus494 27 дней назад
5:05 "But it's kind of not really" and the American Chauchat took offense to that! 🤣
@Stevarooni
@Stevarooni 29 дней назад
What a cool, descriptive journey! 😄
@rubidio2788
@rubidio2788 29 дней назад
Good food for lunch and a video of Ian... Today is a better day
@stumpythedwarf8712
@stumpythedwarf8712 29 дней назад
I did not know there was a US version of that gun. Thank you Ian, as always. Please do the Lewis gun vid, I'd love to hear that story.
@actionjksn
@actionjksn 28 дней назад
That's a very interesting design. Some aspects seem ingenious and others are kind of insane. I was surprised by how short the barrels were. The long recoil is an interesting system, I don't think I've seen that on a rifle before.
@skid_Demon
@skid_Demon 27 дней назад
For a few minutes I was thinking, hey, at least they fixed the open magazine issue... nope! Not entirely. XD
@edwindeas9457
@edwindeas9457 28 дней назад
Sacred Bleau, Mon Ami!! It's a French design (LoL)!! Brother, I'm like you.... I could never understand why the U.S. (Our beautiful America) chose the Chauchat over the Lewis (American designed) LMG. The Lewis was the most reliable of the early 20th Century/ pre-WW1 designs and could be manufactured faster than the Maxim-System guns (the British were building 04 Lewis LMGs to every 01 Maxim-Vickers MG). Great Video, as usual. I greatly enjoy your knowledge & expertise. Also, like you, I'm fond of Antigue, Classic Military Smallarms. GOD Bless you; keep up the good work!
@GeraldDarden
@GeraldDarden 29 дней назад
The thing is, Ian didn’t even realize he made a video. This is just what he does on Saturday mornings.
@vidyaorszag
@vidyaorszag 27 дней назад
Funny, I rewatched Project Ligthening recently. Good times.
@hoodedrage720
@hoodedrage720 28 дней назад
I was fr talking about this gun yesterday and you posted this video right after
@andrewdescant
@andrewdescant 26 дней назад
I'm less than a minute in, but I needed to say thanks to project lighting this gun is iconic at least to me.
@kurt8597
@kurt8597 27 дней назад
excellente vidéo
@GarrisonNichols-ow1hb
@GarrisonNichols-ow1hb 28 дней назад
Man that Lewis guy simply couldn't get a break with his machine gun with the American military.
@coreymerrill3257
@coreymerrill3257 29 дней назад
One of the design features of the ar-platform utilizes the different expansion rates of steel and aluminum . Your steel barrel extension slips into the aluminum upper. Then a steel barrel nut threads over that aluminum . As you fire, the aluminum expands faster than the steel around it , locking the barrel into place even more rigidly. When it is a steel ,aluminum ,steel interface the handguards ,especially floating handguards are much harder to torque off the gun when the user is under extreme stress with adrenaline . They can crush the gas tube . This is why quality free float handguards that require their own barrel nut use steel . Others use the existing barrel nut .
@BatCaveOz
@BatCaveOz 29 дней назад
"Camming the feed ramp" is a technique I used with my college girlfriend.
@watchthe1369
@watchthe1369 28 дней назад
Marines hated the thing. It seized up in the middle of intense attacks, and would overheat quickly.
@jamescarlisle1590
@jamescarlisle1590 27 дней назад
Ian: "You might think this would be a much better design, but its kinda not really..." Chauchat: *dies*
@CupOhCoffeeTwitch
@CupOhCoffeeTwitch 27 дней назад
The French gun god back at it again
@sardonicus76
@sardonicus76 24 дня назад
Mike D, come and rock the Chauchat.
@afre3398
@afre3398 29 дней назад
I have heard the BAR did not see much action if any in WW1. Part of this was the fear that the weapon should end up in enemy hands
@FranceKilledThomasSankara
@FranceKilledThomasSankara 29 дней назад
That's an urban legend with a touch of jingoism. They didn't see much action because there was hardly any of them on the western front by the time of the armistice, and planners had expected a massive, final campaign in 1919. I also sincerely doubt there's anything Germany could've done with the BAR, when it was so expensive to produce and they'd already developed the MP18 as a solution for portable, high volumes of fire.
@richardstephens5570
@richardstephens5570 28 дней назад
A limited number of BAR's were used in the Meuse-Argonne offensive.
@SLON-sh2jg
@SLON-sh2jg 22 дня назад
The stock is probably shortened to allow use with a BAR style belt cup (yes, they haven't released the BAR yet, but have decided to use its tactics in the CSRG). Interestingly, this belt did not have pockets (with the exception of two double pockets for M1911 magazines, reduced to one on the BAR version), instead magazines were carried in bags over the shoulder (each bag could hold about six such magazines), and you would probably have at least two such bags.
@SpencerShirey1998
@SpencerShirey1998 29 дней назад
Thanks for the Video Ian!!
@mikemoore4033
@mikemoore4033 29 дней назад
A machine gun that works way better in semi auto than full seems suboptimal.
@michaelangelomaimone3181
@michaelangelomaimone3181 29 дней назад
It’s only sort of a machine gun. It’s more of an automatic rifle. They were still figuring out machine guns (especially light machine guns) in WW1
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 28 дней назад
The doctrine was that it was a semi automatic rifle that could fire in automatic if necessary. The overheating issue with the barrel cooling was a training issue. It took several magazine full in automatic to cause such overheating and this was advised against in the training.
@Justanotherconsumer
@Justanotherconsumer 28 дней назад
Walking fire was a dumb idea.
@aaronrowepalmer
@aaronrowepalmer 29 дней назад
You know, Ian, American sentiment was fairly neutral or even antiwar before WW1, with cases in the books about people protesting the draft or even advising others to not comply with the draft, and maybe Americans had something to do with some of the teething problems this gun had with machining, it’s just a theory, there’s no factual evidence to back it up, but there do exist cases in Constitutional Law that we still study today about Americans protesting the draft and the War in general! Thanks for the videos, you remind me of a friend I have who really gets deeper in to his hobbies than I ever have!
@BjornTheDim
@BjornTheDim 29 дней назад
Yup. I'm going to go find one of Ian's Chauchat range videos.
@fredericlepeltier3435
@fredericlepeltier3435 28 дней назад
Perfect pronunciation of Ribeyrolles Ian! 👏👏 (Hard for non French speakers)
@thatguybrody4819
@thatguybrody4819 28 дней назад
i love how you can hear Ian barely hold back a laugh as soon as the american chauchat falls over.
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts 25 дней назад
The Chauchat may be a **mercifully** forgotten weapon . . . .
@DevinMoorhead
@DevinMoorhead 29 дней назад
Fricking early gang. Lets frickin go!
@punctatus3285
@punctatus3285 26 дней назад
CLANK..."Then the springs come out" 😄
@LuminaryCursorem
@LuminaryCursorem 29 дней назад
I've always wondered about this specific lmg. The first place I was made aware of its existence was while playing Verdun.
@fjallaxd7355
@fjallaxd7355 29 дней назад
Even though it's goofy, I like the Chauchat. Good video.
@NikeaTiber
@NikeaTiber 28 дней назад
It is better to have a bicycle made at a machine gun factory than it is to have a machine gun made at a bicycle factory.
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