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@andrewjodon1433
@andrewjodon1433 2 месяца назад
"May you live forever" is basically an insult to a Spartan. They were bred to be warriors, and to die in battle is the greatest honor to them.
@SilentBob731
@SilentBob731 2 месяца назад
"It is a good day to die." -- The Philosopher Worf
@ChrisB-k7b
@ChrisB-k7b 2 месяца назад
smart people know that.
@Fsindu
@Fsindu 2 месяца назад
Well thats not really the meaning behind those words.
@hardyharr9377
@hardyharr9377 2 месяца назад
it also means that may the hunch back live with the guilt for the rest of his life
@liamclarke91
@liamclarke91 2 месяца назад
Basically another way to say "you're not worth killing"
@Mr.Ekshin
@Mr.Ekshin 2 месяца назад
The whole "over the top" style of story telling was not intended to be a historical account. It was in fact the story as told to the troops at the end of the film by Dilios. He was the narrator throughout this entire film, and it was him inspiring the troops in the final battle (the one where Greece finally drove out the Persians for good). When Leonidas sent his lieutenant Dilios home from Thermopylae (missing one eye), he chose him not because he was wounded, but specifically because he had a gift for story telling. So the epic tale of their battle was told by the skilled orator Dilios, and the imagery you see is what he conjured in the minds of Spartans. When Dilios told the grand story of the fate of the 300, most of the Spartan soldiers had never seen an elephant... or a rhino... or even a Persian soldier for that matter. In his story telling, when he says Xerxes was tall with a deep voice... the men imagined him standing 8 feet tall, and having some supernaturally deep voice. When he says the sun was blotted out by their arrows, they imagined the sky becoming dark with millions of arrows.
@jakebaca264
@jakebaca264 2 месяца назад
Dilios was also considered a coward by the Spartan army for coming back alive you
@Nolimit_Lou
@Nolimit_Lou 2 месяца назад
Exactly this is what I've been telling people since the movie released. I am a history buff and have many friends who are also history buffs and they couldn't comprehend why the Persians were depicted as literally monsters in the film. I simply told them two things one the description of the Persians in the film was being told by the orator Dillios, and two it's Hollywood.
@scabbarae
@scabbarae 2 месяца назад
True, although he was said to have redeemed himself by fighting hard and dying at Plataea.
@baradiusdecimon
@baradiusdecimon 2 месяца назад
​@scabbarae Actually, he didn't. Since he was shamed by coming back alive, he was considered a coward and wanted to redeem himself. So he broke formation and charged the enemy at the battle of Platea which he did die in. However it was against Spartan law to break formation so. He shamed himself again in his attempt to redeem himself.
@babarjaputak2314
@babarjaputak2314 2 месяца назад
@@Nolimit_Lou it's a cool interpretation, but both you and OP are incorrect. The answer really and truly is "it's a fun Hollywood movie". Why? Because at the end, Dilios and the Spartans are still wearing underwear instead of armor. Your theory falls apart right there. It's not that deep, and there's no need for it to be. It's a fun movie meant to entertain viewers. It doesn't need a lit professor hyperanalytical interpretation of why it's so over-the-top. It just is and that's fine
@Fleshtotem
@Fleshtotem 2 месяца назад
"May you live forever" I always took this as a form of insult. Having to live forever with the guilt of his betrayal. He will also never get a true, honorable spartan death as he desired.
@robbob5302
@robbob5302 2 месяца назад
Exactly what he meant. No room for translation there.
@Herik_
@Herik_ 2 месяца назад
Exactly, beat me to it
@scotthadden9816
@scotthadden9816 2 месяца назад
That is EXACTLY how the Spartans used it.
@mikaelson1194
@mikaelson1194 2 месяца назад
Because it is curse, worst ever curse that spartan could say Even today ephialtes name is used by greeks as meaning of nightmares
@ziusthefirst5387
@ziusthefirst5387 2 месяца назад
That's right!
@robbob5302
@robbob5302 2 месяца назад
“Why did they think 300 was enough?” They didn’t. But it was the maximum number Leonidas could bring. 300 is a king’s escort. 301 is an army. The ephores forbade Leonidas from sending any armies anywhere.
@7kortos7
@7kortos7 2 месяца назад
my question has always been, he's KING Leonidas. who was stopping him from doing anything
@DavetheGrue
@DavetheGrue 2 месяца назад
In real life they had thousands of other troops with them. When the pass around the Greek position was betrayed to the Persians, the Greeks had to retreat. The "300" of history was Leonidas and his personal guard, who volunteered to stay behind and fight a rearguard action to prevent pursuit by the Persians.
@Aughtel
@Aughtel 2 месяца назад
@@7kortos7 the people who can garner support and outnumber him, physically. I used to think the same thing why kings would care who gets what title and deed, and whoever would think about it. I'm King, sit down and eat your cereal. But then you think those people can buy mercenaries and thugs, sway popular opinion and what good is a king if the people think he's a sham. In medieval times an army was that of a vassal's, and the King calls upon his vassals with their armies - so he's going to want to keep the vassals happy lest they decide a new king would be better. of course, i'm thinking about normal societies. Sparta was a creature all on its own so I don't know how much it'd apply lol
@clementtibeau7771
@clementtibeau7771 2 месяца назад
mwahahah They are one hundred spartian..... give me your book about the spartan law, i'm interessted
@sikox209
@sikox209 2 месяца назад
⁠@@7kortos7He’s *ONE* of the kings of “Sparta” ( Lacedaemon ) . Sparta had a two kings system. It’s the only reason why Leónidas was even able to go to Thermopylae. The reason that there’s so much emphasis on the 300( I think we should also remember the 700 thespians and 400 thebans that decided to stay) is because most of the Greek forces decided to turn back. King leonidas gave them that option. This was intended to be their last battle. They achieved their goal of slowing down the Persian army and they also bought more time for Greece. This was, arguably, The greatest last stand in all of human history.
@thomasbeauchamp3781
@thomasbeauchamp3781 2 месяца назад
They only took 300 because they couldn't legally bring the Spartan army. It did allow them to slow down the Persians until the Greeks could mobilize. Also, the Persians morale was shook seeing what 300 Spartans could do, so when they saw thousands at the later battle, their confidence was shattered.
@SisyphusOfSodom
@SisyphusOfSodom 2 месяца назад
Not "what 300 Spartans could do", they were somewhere around 7000 Greeks who fought at Thermopylae. 300 were spartan CITIZENS, but there was thousand of helots from Laconia (Sparta) that were brought as well.
@coyotefire69420
@coyotefire69420 2 месяца назад
@@SisyphusOfSodom Thank you for the correction. This movie is fun but historically not even close lol
@cameirusisu1024
@cameirusisu1024 2 месяца назад
they only took 300 as it was against custom to march an army during a festival....also, there were many many more greeks there than the 300 spartans, all of similar martial skill and equipped....Thebes eventually defeated sparta at Leuctra despite a nearly 2:1 advantage for the spartans....remember, this film is not at all historically accurate, its a rousing tale before a battle to hype up the spartan army....
@coffeeninja8128
@coffeeninja8128 2 месяца назад
@@SisyphusOfSodom There were about 30.000 support troops and forces allied to the Spartans, apart from the alleged 300. For the Spartans non-Spartans did not really count.
@R3WIRED
@R3WIRED 2 месяца назад
@@coffeeninja8128 7000 allied to the Spartans when they only had 300 at the battle of Thermopylae, not 30,000.
@WilliamKnox-ql3qx
@WilliamKnox-ql3qx 2 месяца назад
"May you live forever" This would have been a curse for a Spartan. To die in battle was the highest honor.
@johnbernhardtsen3008
@johnbernhardtsen3008 2 месяца назад
im pretty sure I read that the wounded were allowed to live as gardeners, to keep Sparta pretty and bountiful!
@nkscou9008
@nkscou9008 2 месяца назад
Please, stop reproducing this fad! The only reason was that, now persecuted, he'd have to live with the shame and regret of betraying his people. Was also offered a reward for his death and thus exiled himself. When years later he returned to his homeland, apparently feeling safe, he was assassinated. Ephialtes is perhaps the most hated of the entire Greek world. And Ephialtes couldn't fight for Sparta anyway.
@Taraka1
@Taraka1 2 месяца назад
Actually i think its a nod to how the historical Ephialtes name became a word for traitor in greek.
@johnbernhardtsen3008
@johnbernhardtsen3008 2 месяца назад
@@Taraka1 dang!thats harsh!being remembered that way is so mean!
@BmoreCelt
@BmoreCelt 2 месяца назад
​@@Taraka1if I remember right his name came to become the modern Greek word for nightmare
@coldflamebluedragon196
@coldflamebluedragon196 2 месяца назад
I love hearing the story of Butler screaming “This is Sparta” and the whole crew laughing their asses off. They thought it was absolutely ridiculous until they watched the dailies
@Spikeelsucko
@Spikeelsucko 2 месяца назад
I can imagine a "soft" delivery also working, but that kind of quiet dignity with explosive violence might come across as too "cerebral", Athenian if you will. If anybody wanted to be perceived as 'over the top' it's definitely the Spartans. I don't have a copy anymore but Im curious to check the graphic novel and see how this scene/line was delivered originally, I can't recall if he shouts or not.
@ameliawalker1046
@ameliawalker1046 2 месяца назад
Hilarious story because the director originally told Gerard Butler to whisper the line…
@MyOpinionish
@MyOpinionish 2 месяца назад
The Sparta line was a retake from Butler. He gave a last chance and Snyder loved it.
@JeremyBarretta-yv8ep
@JeremyBarretta-yv8ep 2 месяца назад
He did invoke the spirit of Leonidas
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 2 месяца назад
Butler had tried several ways of saying the line, then asked Snyder if he could just go for it. When he asked Snyder if that was over the top, Snyder told him, "Yeah, but it was awesome!"
@kevinnorwood8782
@kevinnorwood8782 2 месяца назад
That "pit of death" is just a well. The event of the Spartans throwing the Persian messengers into a well actually happened ten years before Thermopylae. The Persian messengers came asking for earth and water, and the Spartans replied "Go dig it out yourself!" before throwing them into the well to die. At the same time in Athens, the Athenians did the exact same thing to Persian messengers sent to Athens, except they threw the messengers into a pit used to execute condemned criminals.
@olddog330
@olddog330 2 месяца назад
Vkunia's confusion is understandable. The 'well' seems to be portrayed here as a cesspit.
@DarthTach
@DarthTach 2 месяца назад
"Come back with you shield, or on it." Is taken from Spartan culture. The shields were quite heavy so if someone fled they wpuld drop ot to move faster. If they came back with their equipment then they fought with honour. Or on it , meaning they died with honour.
@phoenixdzk
@phoenixdzk 2 месяца назад
Michael Fassbender looks like he really enjoyed his role Also the actor who got heel-kicked into the pit is Peter Mensah. He played Oenomaeus, Spartacus' trainer in the series who's visuals were inspired by 300
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 2 месяца назад
This was Fassbender's first feature film role, an important step in his career. Can't speak to his enjoying the role, but I know none of the principle cast enjoyed the intensive training to get their bodies so epically ripped.
@bcn1gh7h4wk
@bcn1gh7h4wk 2 месяца назад
-"What happened to those warriors of Thermopylae?" -"Dead to the last man."
@TheGoIsWin21
@TheGoIsWin21 2 месяца назад
Fun fact: the word "laconic", which means to speak or write while using very few words, is named for Laconia, the region of Greece Sparta was located in. Thats because of their absolutely legendary propensity for outrageous action movie one-liners 😂 My favorite example is when Philip of Macedon was threatening to invade Sparta, and demanding that they surrender. He asserted that if his army invaded, they would burn pillage and destroy everything. The Spartans reply was simply "if". Also, "it almost feels like they took genuine pages from the comic book, and recreated it" They pretty much did exactly that, lmao. A lot of shots from the movie are EXACT recreations of frames from the comic, and the whole movie is practically shot for shot a copy of the original comic book. Zach Snyder would literally photocopy the book and use the sheets to figure out how to set up his camera
@JakkFrost1
@JakkFrost1 2 месяца назад
You say that last bit as if Snyder cheated, and it wasn't the entire point of the movie.
@TheGoIsWin21
@TheGoIsWin21 2 месяца назад
@@JakkFrost1 I didn't say it as if he cheated, I just said it because it's literally what he did. I was acknowledging his effort to match the frames from the comic. How on earth would that even be "cheating" anyways? How do you "cheat" at cinematography, lmao
@phillipribbink6903
@phillipribbink6903 2 месяца назад
@@TheGoIsWin21 And honestly, it's so rare that directors have such a perfect resource to draw inspiration from for their shots. Why wouldn't he use it?
@TheGoIsWin21
@TheGoIsWin21 2 месяца назад
@@phillipribbink6903 Right? I wasn't criticizing at all, it's a really interesting way to piece together a film
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 2 месяца назад
Movies routinely prepare for filming by making what's called storyboards, drawings of what the shots in a scene are supposed to look like. By working from Frank Miller's graphic novel, Zach Snyder had almost the entire movie already storyboarded.
@sharkdentures3247
@sharkdentures3247 2 месяца назад
"Did Leonidas just tell him to go have sex?" Yes. He quite literally told him to go "F**K OFF!". (Politely) LMAO
@DavetheGrue
@DavetheGrue 2 месяца назад
Frank Miller's work has always been about masculinity and heroism. He said that when he saw the 1962 film "300 Spartans" as a boy it changed his creative life, as he stopped thinking of heroes as guys who always won (e.g. Superman) but rather someone willing to die for something important. So it was inevitable he would do his own "300" comic.
@Lloyd00
@Lloyd00 2 месяца назад
Favorite movie of all time is Sin City. I have the collector's edition which came with the graphic novel and it's basically a perfect adaptation
@j.m.w.5064
@j.m.w.5064 2 месяца назад
He also made a Batman comic with Batman overseas fighting Ises, which was so over the top nationalistic and gung-ho "Murica!" that even in the states DC wouldn't publish it so Miller changed the costume by taking off the ears and the bat logo and published it anyway. Miller is a weird guy, Ultra nationalistic and always been flirting with fascism. No reason to applaud him at all. On the other hand, the 300 novel is very simple and all the fascist crap was inserted by Snyder. So that's that.
@degov5
@degov5 2 месяца назад
Having Dilios as the narrator was actually brilliant. It instantly fixed any concerns of why the Immortals and others in the Persian army look like demons/monsters, since its Dilios retelling the story, and exaggerating some things as storytellers do
@Lloyd00
@Lloyd00 2 месяца назад
Speaking of, I really liked Immortals
@onekill31
@onekill31 2 месяца назад
Just like the ancient people tell of the things that are beyond their comprehension. Those monsters that they told are animals that looks new to them. Even today, we discover new species and some people still call it differently.
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 2 месяца назад
@@Lloyd00 Called Immortals because if one of them fell in battle, he was replaced almost immediately, so there would always be 10,000 of them.
@chrisleebowers
@chrisleebowers 2 месяца назад
3:20 - "I wish that you could tell me what would be exaggerated vs not..." -Spartans didn't fight naked, they had some of the most sophisticated and high-tech armor in the ancient world. Frank Miller knew this, all of the "inaccuracies" in the graphic novel are artistic license choices, he was inspired when he visited Thermopolye and saw a statue of Leonidas in the nude except for his cape and helmet. He found the image evocative and thought that in his mythologized version they should fight shirtless, barbarian hero style. 24:55 "And the choreography is out of this world!" IRL, they never broke that formation you saw at the beginning of the battle if they could help it. (And the fact that they held the pass against an endless supply of Persians indicates that they never broke formation at that battle) By staying together in a tight "phalanx" where each soldier, as he described to Ephialtes, shielded the man next to him, they were like a big impenatrable metal human tank with spears stabbing out at you. The Persian slave army had shields and helmets made of wicker and no armor. 30:00 "May you live forever" - that's a curse. Dying in battle is the highest honor, dying of old age or never dying at all is the fate of a coward. -There was no conspiracy to bribe the monks. Spartans were as religious and superstitious as everyone else in the ancient world and really thought they couldn't send more than 300 guys. The subplot with his wife wasn't even in the comic and was added for the movie. Without the added material, Gorgo only had one scene. Spartan women enjoyed an exceptional level of freedom and social agency for the ancient world and they wanted to showcase that and give Lena Heady more screen time and more to do. -Nearly all the city-states sent soldiers, not just the Arcadians mentioned in the movie. They did represent the largest contingent, but in total Leonidas had about 5000-7000 men under his command. -It was a two-front amphibious batte. Along with The Hot Gates, The Athenian Navy was holding off The Persian Navy at a similar choke point several miles up the coast. Both fronts had to hold or else Xerxes could get behind the other front and cut them off. These events are depicted in the sequel "300: Rise of an Empire" (Not as good but worth seeing. Eva Green as Artemisia alone is worth it.) -Xerxes was a normal sized guy with a beard, not a Navi-sized top-to-bottom waxed super-twink. His army was indeed estimated to be a million strong, although some estimates place the number as low as 300,000. He did NOT have elephants, rhinos, ninjas, orcs, whatever that knife-handed guy was, or "magic"... (black powder wasn't invented for another 1400 years in China.) He did have cavalry but he couldn't get them up to the choke point, part of why The Spartans chose to fight there. He is actually pretty well known in history, especially in The Middle East; He expanded The Persian Empire to it's largest territorial boundaries and completed several massive multi-generational construction projects. His defeats in Greece however were believed to begin The Persian Empire's decline. -When the goat path was discovered, Leonidas began a phased retreat of the Greek forces under cover of night. It is not clear if Leonidas planned to stay behind with a token force to cover the retreat or was simply going to retreat last after everyone else and was attacked before he could finish.("Spartans NEVER retreat!!!" - that's nonsense. Spartans WIN. They have no problem retreating when it is the most tactically advantageous or only option) At the time of the last stand, several hundred *Thebans and Thespians* were still with the remaining Spartans, (seriously done dirty by Frank and the movie) althogether totalling about 1000 men. Fighting lasted all day. Leonidas was killed in the early afternoon and his soldiers fought to keep his body from the Persians until the last man fell in the evening.
@mrborgeusborg1541
@mrborgeusborg1541 2 месяца назад
Great comment but I want to add 1 detail. The Spartans asked the Oracle in delphi that gave this prophecy. "For you, inhabitants of wide-wayed Sparta, Either your great and glorious city must be wasted by Persian men, Or if not that, then the bound of Lacedaemon must mourn a dead king, from Heracles' line. The might of bulls or lions will not restrain him with opposing strength; for he has the might of Zeus. I declare that he will not be restrained until he utterly tears apart one of these." Either Sparta will fall, or Sparta will mourn a dead king.
@joekellyou
@joekellyou 2 месяца назад
I think the storm was meant to be the Athenian Navy here. The wanted to save their introduction for the sequel, so they just subbed out the Navy for a storm for the Army seeing Persian ships sink and cheering scene. The end speech I would assume was at Salamis where the allied Greeks finished this round of Persians.
@SisyphusOfSodom
@SisyphusOfSodom 2 месяца назад
Would have been a decent comment if you didn't add "slave army", which to me suggest your understanding of this history is as shallow as a Wikipedia page and the information you just shared is not from you, but likely a mere copy/pasted "fun facts" from a dubious source.
@righthandoftyr947
@righthandoftyr947 2 месяца назад
@@joekellyou There was a storm actually. Xerxes' plan was to build a pontoon bridge across the Hellespont to allow his army to the cross (and to maintain supply lines once they were in Greece), but the first bridge was wrecked by a storm and he had to rebuild it. Salamis was a naval battle at sea, and the subject of the sequel movie. I assume the battle they were preparing for at the end was Plataea, where they wiped out the contingent Xerxes left behind when he was forced to pull the majority of his army back to Persia.
@christopherpoet458
@christopherpoet458 2 месяца назад
@@SisyphusOfSodom And you would have had a decent comment if rather than spending half of it insulting someone because you don't like what was said or how it was said and maybe contributed with a clarification. Or shall I assume you are a troll and don't know what you are talking about because of your lack of information as you have decided you can rightfully assume and judge the previous comment?
@krisgoss6682
@krisgoss6682 2 месяца назад
May you live forever is basically the biggest insult one spartan can say to another
@stevealford230
@stevealford230 2 месяца назад
The inability to understand why he told the traitor "may you live forever" ... that might just be the biggest red flag possible. If someone doesn't immediately comprehend the concept of being tortured by shame, particularly the shame of betraying someone, RUN from that person. You don't want the company of someone who thinks that was a well-wishing moment and thinks that you can live a long and happy immortal life in that circumstance.
@kevinnorwood8782
@kevinnorwood8782 2 месяца назад
The ultimate honor for a Spartan IS to die in battle, but at the same time, they have no issue with growing old and dying of old age. To a Spartan, growing old meant that you were unkillable on the battlefield and no one could challenge your skill. There's a story from Greece about an old man who wanted to watch the Olympic games, but no one was offering him a seat. He kept searching throughout the stands, but could not find an empty seat, or someone willing to offer him their own. When he reached the section of the stands where the Spartans were seated, the moment they saw him, EVERY single Spartan present IMMEDIATELY stood up and let him pick a seat of his choosing. The old man was deeply moved by this gesture, and the rest of the spectators were completely in awe as well. He turned to the rest of them before choosing his seat and said, "Only in Sparta does it pay to grow old."
@theemperormoth5089
@theemperormoth5089 2 месяца назад
I remember in God of War (PS4) Kratos assumes the norse Hel is exclusively populated by criminals and the dishonorable, but when he's told the elderly and those who died a straw death were also put there he's clearly confused. "It is dishonorable to grow _old_ ?"
@dramatticdevon4741
@dramatticdevon4741 2 месяца назад
Which spartan told you that? I havent met any in a while
@theemperormoth5089
@theemperormoth5089 2 месяца назад
@@dramatticdevon4741 Mimir tells Kratos that the dishonored dead go to Hel, which Kratos presumed to mean criminals but Mimir elaborates that it also includes the elderly and those who die of illness, which Kratos doesn’t understand.
@Aaron-io8vw
@Aaron-io8vw 2 месяца назад
This battle was essentially a attempt to delay the Persian army long enough for the Athenian General Themisoticles to rally the other Greek city states. Themistocles was successful and a combined Greek Fleet severely damaged the Persian fleet at the battle of Salamis shortly after Thermopylae. The battle at the end Plataea a year later would be the final battle in the War, where 75,000-85,000 greeks(Spartans, Athenians, Megarans, and Corinthians)defeated 100,000,-150,000 Persian and Persian allies. 200 years later Alexander the great would successfully do the opposite of what Xerxes tried as Alexander Conqueored the Persian Empire
@OrionBlarg
@OrionBlarg 2 месяца назад
"Tell me what is exaggerated." Literally EVERYTHING
@JudoGeoff
@JudoGeoff 2 месяца назад
I figure it'd be a lot easier to put together a postcard list of items that are somewhat accurate as opposed to the novel-sized list of things that aren't. Cool vid on the topic: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-O6oIpCHbaJA.html&pp=ygUWaGlzdG9yaWFuIDMwMCBhY2N1cmFjeQ%3D%3D
@Parallaxus
@Parallaxus 2 месяца назад
I've seen Frank Miller's style both from this movie, Sin City, and seeing the covers of some of the stuff Frank Miller did in shops. He has a very distinctive art style that was used a whole lot in this movie, especially the end credits. He likes to keep things in two or three colors, usually black, red and white, with occasional yellow. The red splattering across black is very much a signature visual of his. I felt like it was very well used in 300 particularly. Absolutely loved this movie. So good. And great reaction! Enjoyed.
@Aaron-io8vw
@Aaron-io8vw 2 месяца назад
The whole idea of a Phalanx(the formation the Spartans used) is to push with the shield and then stab and move a step forward. The formation is a threshing machine when The enemies are the wheat.
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 2 месяца назад
The phalanx was a superior battle formation to how the Persians organized their troops, and the Spartans were almost unique in the world in this era in being trained all their lives to fight in formation, and to hold their lines against all attacks. Most of the Persian army was made up of barely-trained conscripts who would break and run when a battle turned against them.
@SpartanG062
@SpartanG062 2 месяца назад
Trivia: The real Leonidas was 60 years old when he died at Thermopylae.
@Xonslaught1
@Xonslaught1 2 месяца назад
This is probably the role that got Lena Headey the Cersei Lanister part. Even though Ephiltaes betrayed the 300, the Persians still made him look like a fool, and he didn't realize it
@rollmops7948
@rollmops7948 2 месяца назад
the one eye Spartan telling the tale is Faramir from "Lord of the Rings"
@mikaelson1194
@mikaelson1194 2 месяца назад
For real? I didnt know about it
@nimz8521
@nimz8521 2 месяца назад
And Michael Fassbender is in here too, before he became a star.
@Fred-vy1hm
@Fred-vy1hm 2 месяца назад
No it's Sean Bean, who portrayed Boramir in the LOTR trilogy. Faramir was portrayed by David Wenham.
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 2 месяца назад
@@Fred-vy1hm Dilios is indeed played by David Wenham, not Sean Bean.
@juanmanuelocampo5630
@juanmanuelocampo5630 2 месяца назад
The greatest honor of a Spartan is to die in battle, say may you live forever is like wishing him the worst curse.
@PROVOCATEURSK
@PROVOCATEURSK 2 месяца назад
Proceeds to live forever in stories.
@cjvan713
@cjvan713 2 месяца назад
If you want to learn more about what really happened here. I very highly recommend listening to "Dan Carlin's Hardcore History". Specifically episode 56-58, King of Kings. It's worth it and the man is one hell of a storyteller.
@Frangorra1210
@Frangorra1210 2 месяца назад
Something about the Immortals: Athanatoi in greek, Anusiya in persian (meaning "the comrades"). They were 10.000 precisely, and if someone died, fell sick or wounded, they were promptly replaced, in order to be always ten thousand; that gave the name Immortals. And of course they were not dark ninja zombies. They were an elite infantry chosen among pure Persian or Midian warriors, proficient in spear, sword and bow fighting.
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 2 месяца назад
Full-time soldiers, unlike most of the Persian army made up of conscripts.
@toxicrevenuegaming9415
@toxicrevenuegaming9415 2 месяца назад
"May you live forever. " the greatest insult you can lay on a Spartan. As in, you will never have a glorious death.
@nkscou9008
@nkscou9008 2 месяца назад
Please, stop reproducing this fad! The only reason was that, now persecuted, he'd have to live with the shame and regret of betraying his people. Was also offered a reward for his death and thus exiled himself. When years later he returned to his homeland, apparently feeling safe, he was assassinated. Ephialtes is perhaps the most hated of the entire Greek world. And Ephialtes couldn't fight for Sparta anyway.
@toxicrevenuegaming9415
@toxicrevenuegaming9415 2 месяца назад
@@nkscou9008 no
@JakkFrost1
@JakkFrost1 2 месяца назад
​@@nkscou9008why do you think it can't be both?
@nkscou9008
@nkscou9008 2 месяца назад
​@@JakkFrost1 Because the other one it's just the imagination of some commenter just based on a line of the movie. It is well known that "may you live forever" is a curse of living endless miserable years full of regret and shame. We can clearly see the shame on Ephialtis's face right after. After all, as I said, Ephialtis couldn't take part on any Spartan battle.
@JakkFrost1
@JakkFrost1 2 месяца назад
@@nkscou9008 in a culture where the ultimate goal is a glorious death in battle, living forever is already a great shame. Dilios (the real one) purportedly faced that same shame, he was viewed as a coward for surviving, being sent home instead of dying beside his king. Ephialtes treachery would just compound his own shame. Not only did he not die in battle against a worthy enemy, he was also a traitor. He would have actually have been viewed better by Spartan culture had he at least died in battle fighting for the people he betrayed Sparta to. Vikings had a similar culture, wanting to die in battle in order to enter Valhalla, their version of heaven.
@TheMule71
@TheMule71 2 месяца назад
"May you live forever" = "You'll never have a Spartan death" Hearing that, he knew what was about to happen. He knew they (the Spartans) would never submit. This is totally inspired by the comic book, which has little to do with real history in the first place. For sure spartans weren't going into battle half naked. Hoplites were relatively heavy armored soldiers. They became famous for their laconic humor (named after them), so they are basicly the grandfathers of all one liners in action movies.
@enigmamz
@enigmamz 2 месяца назад
I expect someone already mentioned this, 750 comments = TL/DR, but the actor who was the narrator was also Faramir from LOTR.
@katymorgan327
@katymorgan327 2 месяца назад
just the fact we still remember them and this battle in great detail 3400 years later tells you the truth about their ability as warriors , this battle stuck in the mind of man all these years and has been pass down and written about for 1000s of years !
@thewonkyembouchure
@thewonkyembouchure 2 месяца назад
We remember it because of the embellishments made by Herodotus.
@garygauvin5933
@garygauvin5933 2 месяца назад
Exactly, like any great story. Look at any book worth reading, any story worth repeating. The story of, he was born and then he die is factually correct but boring. I rather read this story than watch any real house wives of.....
@Siddharth-94
@Siddharth-94 2 месяца назад
2400 ish
@Sabre22
@Sabre22 2 месяца назад
Gates of fire By Steven Pressfield although fictionalized is a very good book about the Battle. They started with a total of about 7000 defenders the final battle was fought by the 300 Spartans and about 700 Thespians
@dongilleo9743
@dongilleo9743 2 месяца назад
Gates of Fire is a great book. I think it's better than 300. I think there was some preliminary talk about making a Gates of Fire movie, but 300 got made first and interest faded.
@chiefcrash1
@chiefcrash1 2 месяца назад
Keep in mind: the entire story is told from the point of view of a soldier trying to inspire troops before a battle. So like most campfire stories and fishing tales, elements are exaggerated and fantastical...
@nickvanachthoven7252
@nickvanachthoven7252 2 месяца назад
nah, we all know its 100% historically accurate
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 2 месяца назад
I often compare this movie to Troy starring Brad Pitt. That movie treated mythology as though it were history, while 300 does exactly the opposite.
@znaim88
@znaim88 2 месяца назад
Read more books then ​@@nickvanachthoven7252
@ramonacosta2647
@ramonacosta2647 2 месяца назад
Ok, but the monsters were all real, right?
@kevinnorwood8782
@kevinnorwood8782 2 месяца назад
King Leonidas and his 300 Spartans weren't alone at Thermopylae. There were a total of 7,000 Greeks holding that pass, but they were still VASTLY outnumbered by the Persians, who brought an expedition force ranging from a quarter-million to half a million soldiers (250k-500k). Leonidas WANTED to take more Spartans, but the Oracle at Delphi told him that if he did so, he would bring bad luck to Sparta because a major religious festival was going on at that point. The Oracle also told Leonidas that Sparta was only allowed to fight if it was prepared to suffer terrible losses, and if its king was prepared to die, because he would not survive.
@klausbrinck2137
@klausbrinck2137 Месяц назад
OK, but most of them left after the betrayal ... The Spartans (have brought only 300) stayed, and another 700-1000 from the cities just after Thermopylae, that would surely burn, after the enraged Persians reach them, so, they decided to stay too, and support the 300... There were far more than 7000 at the begin (15-20k), but still, vastly outnumbered...
@andrewpeppin4769
@andrewpeppin4769 2 месяца назад
Archaeologist here: yes, this movie takes a lot of artistic license and embellishes a lot. I wouldn’t call it historically accurate, but it got a few things right. The agoge, the training scene at the beginning, was somewhat accurate. The Spartans were known to discard infants deemed ‘undesirable’, and the whole ‘show that a god king can bleed’ was to show that Xerxes blood was red. In Greek mythology, the Gods would bleed mana, or a sort of liquid gold. Think of that scene in Thor love and thunder. Several others mention the ‘may you live forever’ line, yes, that was a major insult to true Spartans. Also, the line ‘come back with your shield or on it’ was a reference to a warrior in combat being carried back home on his shield having died in battle, or returning with his shield in victory. The alternative was to return without your shield, which was seen as dropping the heavy shield so you could run away from battle faster as a coward.
@malelonewolf80
@malelonewolf80 2 месяца назад
Not an historian myself, but from a documentary I once saw some years ago, their numbers, depicted in the movie, were not accurate either. I do not remember correctly, but I think the documentary said that it was a few thousand spartans, and even more greeks. And Spartans also being quick-witted is supposedly true as well, as they had some scholaric training, thus being quick-witted. But Spartans were military to the core in other aspects. Which ulltimately was their downfall, from what I remember. But Spartans also had people / slaves in other professions as well while Spartans were primarily a militaric society.
@CxOrillion
@CxOrillion 2 месяца назад
This whole movie is actually is actually a meta production, in a way. The whole movie is Dilios (The one-eyed guy we see at the beginning, played by David Wenham who also played Faramir in LOTR) talking up Leonidas and all the metal shit they did to jazz up the spartan forces ahead of the battle at the end of the film.
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 2 месяца назад
Interestingly, some of the lines in the graphic novel/movie are based on historical records. E.g. "We will fight in the shade," "Persians, come and get them!" and "Go tell the Spartans..." were all attributed to this group of Spartans at some point.
@IAmNeomic
@IAmNeomic Месяц назад
This was the movie that got me into audio and sound design when I was 17. Of course, seeing other movies in the theater, I had noticed little things before, like how sounds were coming from beside and behind me at certain times when I saw The Matrix a few years before, but I saw this in the theater and was blown away! I actually stayed in my seat when it ended, watched the crew clean the room, and just stayed for another showing, specifically to pay attention to the audio. I became obsessed. Bought the DVD with a $170 "home theater in a box" setup, went to college for audio production, and now I can't really have a movie or gaming setup without proper surround sound. When I upgraded to Blu-ray in 2009, the first movie I got was 300, along with The Dark Knight. But the sound design in this movie with a proper setup is absolutely insane, even almost 20 years later.
@chadlynch1551
@chadlynch1551 2 месяца назад
One of the things that this story leaves out is Sparta had a bunch of slaves, called Helots. The Helots did almost all the work, while the Spartan women usually supervised them. This freed up the men to do nothing but train for war and fight. There was also an unofficial tradition where young Spartan soldiers has to slip out and murder a Helot without being caught or seen. This helped prove not only their ability to fight, but also their stealth, intelligence, and ruthlessness. All Greek city-states had slavery at this time, but other Greeks looked askance at the Spartans because the Helots were themselves Greeks. Slaves in the other cities were all non-Greeks. .
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 2 месяца назад
Honestly, the other Greeks considered Spartans rather crazy. I think today we'd characterize their society as almost psychopathic.
@snarkdragon
@snarkdragon 2 месяца назад
Much as I loved this movie, I always got a bit of a laugh every time the Spartans talked about 'freedom'. Historically, the Spartans had little regard for anyone's 'freedom'.
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 2 месяца назад
With Spartan society so massively focused on militarism, they needed a huge body of slaves to do other work. Conversely, they needed such an army to keep all those slaves in line.
@djyanno
@djyanno 2 месяца назад
I worked on the film. It was not filmed like this, it was mostly filmed on blue screens
@Madbandit77
@Madbandit77 2 месяца назад
And in an old train factory in Quebec.
@djyanno
@djyanno 2 месяца назад
@@Madbandit77 I still remember the first we received the footage and some people worked on it. It really wasn't that good looking. VFX et Color Grading did a masterful work on this movie.
@Dizzyruptor
@Dizzyruptor 2 месяца назад
Ephialtes's name became a byword for traitor after his betrayal.
@michaelpanagakos3826
@michaelpanagakos3826 2 месяца назад
he said "may you live forever" because the greatest honour for a spartan is to die on the battlefield, it was an insult
@gumshoe2273
@gumshoe2273 2 месяца назад
Aristodemas, the real-life Spartan the character Dilios was based on, was one of the original 300. He was sent back by Leonidas with an eye injury. Being the only survivor, his reputation suffered and he was thought of as a coward. During the Battle of Platea, he broke ranks and charged the Persian lines alone, proving his detractors wrong. He was killed.
@phoenixdzk
@phoenixdzk 2 месяца назад
Assassins Creed Odyssey took the iconic "This is Sparta" heel kick and turned it into the most effective move in the game
@VegetaLF7
@VegetaLF7 2 месяца назад
Dude, I was killing mercenaries far above my level with that kick
@benschultz1784
@benschultz1784 2 месяца назад
To the point they kept it in the following game and renamed it "Kick of Odin" or something like that.
@henriquelinopacheco15
@henriquelinopacheco15 2 месяца назад
19:42 I love that Rodrigo Santoro is almost unrecognizable. This demonstrates how good an actor he is.
@Fsindu
@Fsindu 2 месяца назад
Darling, the line Leonidas throws at Ephialtes is hitting him into the heart because it has no good meaning. This guy is known in history as one of the biggest traitors of all time and seen aside men like Judas. So the meaning behind Leonidas words of "May he live forever" is very simply that no one ever forgets that it was him who betrayed his own people.
@malelonewolf80
@malelonewolf80 2 месяца назад
Not so sure if that was the intended meaning behind the insult, and it was an insult as Spartans valued dying in combat above all else. To say, may you live forever, is thus the worst insult as it is a wish for the person to not optain what is valued most by Spartan society. I have read somewhere also that the word Ephialtes is considered a curse-word today, due to this betrayal. But that may be a tall-tale for what I know.
@Fsindu
@Fsindu 2 месяца назад
@@malelonewolf80 It is not a "spartan only" thing, think a bit more about what is the greatest achievement. Like being immortal, how is that meant? Being remembered forever, this is the exact oposite of that so the meaning isnt about dying in combat.
@malelonewolf80
@malelonewolf80 2 месяца назад
@@Fsindu True, it is not about just dying in combat, but dying honorably in combat. But it has been many years (about 25 years or so) since I read the book about the battle at Thermopylae and that book unfortunately have been lost over the years.
@mriswith88
@mriswith88 2 месяца назад
"May you live forever" can also be interpreted as "I hope that the story of your shameful betrayal of your country is retold for generations and is never forgotten." And Leonidas got his wish, because we're still talking about it!
@Camino377
@Camino377 2 месяца назад
18:24 No, Xerxes never reached Sparta. Between the Battle of Thermopylae/Hot Gates, and the Battle of Salamis, Xerxes lost most of his navy. He became concerned about being trapped in Europe, and pulled most of his army back to Asia, leaving a small force to continue the invasion. Xerxes lost most of his remaining army to starvation on the way back to Asia, and the forces he left behind were wiped out at Plataea, the final scene of the movie. By the time he returned to Persepolis, he had lost most of his political influence, and was assassinated by his court about 15 years later. Given how much of western society has been influenced by the Greeks, it's interesting to think about how different the world might be had Xerxes succeeded.
@paulatreides6779
@paulatreides6779 2 месяца назад
Interesting to think about.
@ryanweintraub9448
@ryanweintraub9448 2 месяца назад
Never forget, the narrator/Dilios is Faramir from Lord of the Rings. Also the second movie, 300: Rise of an Empire, is 100% worth watching
@randallshuck2976
@randallshuck2976 2 месяца назад
You are getting a full dose of Testosterone with this one. The guy who didn't want to die was one of the other Greek soldiers. A Spartan would never admit that if he even thought it. Good reaction.
@ekill1395
@ekill1395 2 месяца назад
The man that was talking to Michael Fasbender’s character prior to the battle and didn’t want to die was the leader of the Arcandians that they met on the road. He wasn’t a Spartan.
@redviper6805
@redviper6805 2 месяца назад
If the Greeks made breakfast commercials: THIS IS SPARTA A COMPLETE BREAKFAST!
@Spikeelsucko
@Spikeelsucko 2 месяца назад
nobody is sure why, but Black Broth Crunch just never took off outside the Peloponnese
@dklounge7082
@dklounge7082 2 месяца назад
His kid makes fun of him because whenever he's handing out stuff on July 4th, he insists on saying "THIS IS A SPARKLER!!!"
@scope40k
@scope40k 2 месяца назад
Please google "this is scrumptious" and "robot chicken" 😃
@redviper6805
@redviper6805 2 месяца назад
Easier to put those words in RU-vid search engine. That was funny!
@kornmasterdan
@kornmasterdan 2 месяца назад
Did you notice that the queen was cersei from Game of Thrones and the narrator was faramir from lord of the rings?
@silverwingdragon4161
@silverwingdragon4161 2 месяца назад
Sparta was like if the U.S. Marines had their own city-state.
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 2 месяца назад
And if those Marines also had a near-psychopathic approach to child rearing. And maintained a huge body of slaves to do most of the non-military work.
@theblitz4481
@theblitz4481 Месяц назад
US Marines are overrated
@UMAD666
@UMAD666 2 месяца назад
Is not difficult to comprehend for us men, in the marines we thought the same, we thrive for wars and combat.
@noah_ncl0223
@noah_ncl0223 2 месяца назад
Spartans! What is your profession? HAOUW HAOUW This is Sparta!!! For tonight we dine in hell! These scenes are so iconic ❤💪
@eatsmylifeYT
@eatsmylifeYT 2 месяца назад
It sounds more like "AHOOO, AHOOO!" than "HAOUW, HAOUW".
@noah_ncl0223
@noah_ncl0223 2 месяца назад
@@eatsmylifeYT Sorry, I wrote with « french sounding » 😅
@jeffroskywalker
@jeffroskywalker 2 месяца назад
Look closely and you’ll see many famous actors. Michael Fassbender is among them. The training these actors went through is unbelievable. Molon Labe “come and take them/it” has since been said in battles and wars
@swordmonkey6635
@swordmonkey6635 2 месяца назад
Nearly EVERYTHING in 300 is exaggerated compared to what happened historically. It's about as accurate as "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter" was to the real man. In real life, Persia was more open and progressive than Sparta. Persian women could own businesses. Countries defeated by Persia could practice their native religion, keep their language and culture. Persia only wanted taxes, and conscripts if war broke out. Persia didn't consider Xerxes a god. They were strongly monotheistic and worshiped Ahuru Mazda. The misconception that Persians worshipped their king came after Greek emissaries noticed Persians bowing to their king out of respect. In Greece, man only bowed to gods and never to another man... so they assumed they thought Persians treated their kings as gods. The Persian "Immortals" got that name because there were always the same number of Immortals (replaced as they died). From the outside, it looked like they survived every battle.
@abeartheycallFozzy
@abeartheycallFozzy 2 месяца назад
In the movie, Leonidas calls the Spartans "free men". Yeah, about that, no Spartan citizen had a job. That would be a disgrace. They lived entirely off their land holdings and the slaves who did all the work. The slaves had zero rights, Spartan.men could and did do anything they wanted to their slaves, their only worth was monetary.
@Littlewing1977
@Littlewing1977 2 месяца назад
@@abeartheycallFozzyPersia allowed slavery as well even though Zoroastrianism didn’t condone slavery.
@Aaron-io8vw
@Aaron-io8vw 2 месяца назад
Xerxes grandfather Cyrus the Great is honoured in Jewish tradition as a righteous gentile(non jew) for ending the Babylonian Captivity , The Neo-Babylonian Empire under Nebuchadnezzar conquered the Kingdom of Judah(the sole remaining part of the Kingdom of Israel after the Assyrian empire had conquered the northern kingdom, this conquest and th he destruction of the northern kingdom is why modern Jews are called Jews as the tribes that lived in the North disappeared from history due to assimilation and intermarriage with the Assyrian conquerors) and forced a large portion of the population to live in other parts of the Babylonian empire.. 70 years later later the Persian King Cyrus conquered Babylon and allowed the Jews descendants of the original Jewish exiles to return home and gave them money and supplies to repair the Temple in Jerusalem.
@swordmonkey6635
@swordmonkey6635 2 месяца назад
@@Aaron-io8vw Most modern theologians believe the Hebrews gained religious concepts and ideas that were later integrated into the Bible (Satan being a true bad guy, the Garden of Eden etc).
@Aaron-io8vw
@Aaron-io8vw 2 месяца назад
Leonidas was also 65 years old when the battle happened.
@literalsarcasm1830
@literalsarcasm1830 3 дня назад
4:32 He's not blaming the King, he's thanking him. Spartans lived for war. He gifted them the greatest battles of their generation.
@ricktaylor5397
@ricktaylor5397 2 месяца назад
Gerard Butler was asked if he ever uses his Spartan voice in real life. He related a story about being delayed in an airport for several hours. Finally the gate attendant announced there would be free meals and beverages on the flight. In his best Leonides voice, he bellowed “Tonight we dine in hell!”.
@gfwinn
@gfwinn 2 месяца назад
There’s a saying Spartan Mothers said to their sons when they went off to war, “Come back with your shield . . . or on it.” Basically don’t retreat. You win or you die on the battlefield. So ya, they really were that metal. The Spartan reputation is well deserved.
@doctornick0
@doctornick0 2 месяца назад
"I'm assuming a few things in this movie are going to be exaggerated." Truer words were never spoken.
@blondejohn25
@blondejohn25 2 месяца назад
it's cool that you know a lot of the history around this battle, far more than most people
@newrandomguy4218
@newrandomguy4218 2 месяца назад
Ephialtes didn't just betray his people for a bit of fun - he betrayed the people who would have killed him by law as a child. He spent his whole life on the sidelines, envying the normal kids, knowing full well that he would probably never be one of them. - From his point of view, Leonidas has denied him his best chance of a life worth living. - You laugh at his betrayal for women and gold - but you don't realize that if you're so ugly that no one would ever want to have sex with you ..... that's worse than not being able to have children. Life then consists only of pointless and cruel suffering that gets worse and worse.
@edgymurphy570
@edgymurphy570 2 месяца назад
Which is why they were discarted. It was a mercy kill
@newrandomguy4218
@newrandomguy4218 2 месяца назад
@@edgymurphy570 I have just seen a few seconds ago, that Donald Trump said: "People who are severely disabled should just die." I don't feel any mercy here.
@monstahslayah
@monstahslayah 2 месяца назад
One thing I appreciate about Miller's writing is that all of the best one liners are taken directly from historical documents.
@Bodyknock
@Bodyknock 2 месяца назад
I love how Lena Headey has played the Queen of Sparta, Queen Mother Cersei Lannister, and Queen Guinevere. It's like she was made to be an impressive Queen on screen. (Not to mention she played Sarah Connor for a couple of years as well, so just in general being a bad ass fits her apparently!)
@EricTD1995
@EricTD1995 2 месяца назад
And Ma-Ma from Dredd.
@gumshoe6851
@gumshoe6851 2 месяца назад
Aristodemas, the real-life Spartan the character Dilios was based on, was one of the original 300. He was sent back by Leonidas with an eye injury. Being the only survivor, his reputation suffered and he was thought of as a coward. During the Battle of Plataea, he broke ranks and charged the Persian lines alone, proving his detractors wrong. He was killed making his rebuttal.
@KommandeurMumm
@KommandeurMumm 2 месяца назад
Just a small correction here: The movie is not based on the history of the battle of Thermopylae but on the Graphic Novel called "300" by Frank Miller, which is a fictional retelling of historic events. As such basically everything in it is pretty exaggerated. Leonidas told Ephialtes that he wishes him eternal life as a Dis. If he lives forever he can never have an honorable death worthy of a Spartan warrior.
@Patte-chan
@Patte-chan 2 месяца назад
And just a small correction there: _300_ is a graphic novel. Visual Novels are something else.
@KommandeurMumm
@KommandeurMumm 2 месяца назад
@@Patte-chan You are of course correct, thanks for the correction. Don't know how that happened. XD
@cjvan713
@cjvan713 2 месяца назад
13:14 before battle, Spartans were known to groom themselves. Things like combing one's hair. They wanted to have a good looking corpse.
@NandR
@NandR 2 месяца назад
This movie created so many men with "alpha wolf spartan" syndrome. Still see those Spartan helmets on cars, mostly trucks, usually with a dose of road rage.
@TheGoIsWin21
@TheGoIsWin21 2 месяца назад
Molon Labe, Molon Labe everywhere. As someone who comes from a military background that shit was utterly inescapable for about a decade. It was exhausting.
@NandR
@NandR 2 месяца назад
@@TheGoIsWin21 most men with those stickers would not last a day in the life of a spartan soldier. It was harsh and there was no cars for you to advertise your badassery.
@lasselippert3892
@lasselippert3892 2 месяца назад
​@@NandRplus, most of them would most likely be busy clutching their pearls at all the Spartan dude-on-dude action.
@Dutchviking89
@Dutchviking89 2 месяца назад
Regarding the one liners... Spartans were known for their comebacks. When king Phillip of Macadon (Father of Alexander the Great) sent a message to Sparta during time of war saying " “If I conquer your city, I will destroy you all.” .. Sparta only replied with "If". The Spartans didn't "Want to die" but like many other warrior "tribes", they saw death on the battlefield as the most noble. For instance the Vikings also sought death on the battlefield as they believed they would be allowed in to Valhalla. There were Proverb like "Hurry to your death, before your place is taken". Fun fact about the Spartans is that before the battle they bathed, which was seen by an Persian spy. Persia saw this as a "weak" thing not understanding that the Spartans would bath to prepare themselfs for death. Basicly them taking a good long bath was them saying "Yeah i'm ready to die" The "May you live forever" remark was ment as a "Let no one forget your name, the traitor of Sparta". Regarding the 300 Spartans.. Yes there were only 300 Spartans at the battle as mentioned before by other commentors this had to do with them not being allowed to go to war but 300 was played of as "oh no this is my personal bodyguard". But they had formed alliances with other Greek city states and the number of greeks at this battle was closer to 7,000. Many things regarding the battle have been exaggerated as the story of the battle was told by the only spartan survivor, which ofcourse led to him making things grander than they were to motivate the spartan troops for the next battle, and also because that tends to happen in history.
@Retrovorious
@Retrovorious 2 месяца назад
0:52 This is directly based on the comic “300” by Frank Miller and not directly based on the historical events. It’s not historically accurate.
@Ha...WaitWut
@Ha...WaitWut 2 месяца назад
What's crazy is that it wasn't even around 300, it was closer to around 3000
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 2 месяца назад
Historical research pegs the total at around 7,000, from multiple Greek city-states. Still massively outnumbered by the Persian army, for whom estimates range from 80,000 to 400,000, most often centered at 200,000.
@rogertemple7193
@rogertemple7193 2 месяца назад
📽️Awesome Vicky 300🎥
@alexanderdario
@alexanderdario 2 месяца назад
This movie is the transposition of the visual novel made by Frank Miller (the same author of Sin City). The story and thestyle is largely inspired by his graphic novel... Just to give credits where it belongs
@AlejandroDiazadiaz201
@AlejandroDiazadiaz201 2 месяца назад
The movie is amazing, I had the pleasure of reading the comic first. But it is a fable, in reality, the Spartans had a lot more help and they also had a huge technological advantage in the fact that they had bronze and copper armor and weapons as opposed to patchwork of Persians who at the most, had wicker shields. Also the Spartans were a highly trained army, where Persians were a patchwork of different nations. There is an amazing book called "Thermopylae: The Battle for the West" that is a great account of this and the battles that followed, like the naval battle at Salamis, Palatea, Mycale, Sestos and Byzantium.
@JediKnight19852002
@JediKnight19852002 2 месяца назад
Spartans used the narrowness of Thermopylae to funnel the larger Persian army into smaller fronts, where the more heavily armed Spartans were at a huge advantage.
@SighDontWantAHandle
@SighDontWantAHandle 2 месяца назад
The history is close, but a bit different. It was 300 Spartans and about 4000 soldiers from other cities. On the Persian side, they kept really good records. We know the Persian army was around 900,000 people at that point. The Spartans were able to hold Persia for a few days at the pass, until they grew frustrated and decided to sail their army, even though there was bad weather. They sailed their ships into the worst storm of the decade and lost an enormous numbers of people. The Spartan delay lead to the destruction of the Persian advantage by weather. Greek history was saved by a mix of pig-headedness and luck.
@44excalibur
@44excalibur 2 месяца назад
Well, the movie did show that Daxos and his armies were helping the Spartans. It wasn't just the 300 in the movie either.
@pieceofgosa
@pieceofgosa 2 месяца назад
You need to do more reading. Most experts believe the Spartans sent around 1000-1200 men to Thermopylae. Your confusion is due to a naming issue. In antiquity the region we now call Sparta was actually known as Lacedaemon, while Sparta was instead used to refer to the main settlement/capital of Lacedaemon. Herodotus states that there were 300 Spartan hoplites at Thermopylae (meaning those men came only from the main settlement) but also that there were 900 Lacedamonians & Perioeci present. That's another 900 guys from the rest of what we now call Sparta (Perioeci were the 2nd class, non-citizen residents of Lacedaemon). As for the Persians, modern scholarly estimates of their forces top out at about 120,000 and it's not even clear if Xerxes marched his entire force to Thermopylae. He may have left garrisons at Macedon & Thessaly. Regardless the Greeks were well outnumbered, likely somewhere in the region of 10:1. The Persians lost about 20,000 men over the three days of the battle, while the Greeks lost only 2000-3000. That's still pretty damn impressive.
@mechmorph
@mechmorph 2 месяца назад
The great genius of this movie (and the comic book) was taking a historic event and turning it into a mythological fantasy while remaining true to the broad outlines of the actual story. I could watch this movie over and over again. Several of the one-liners, like "we will fight in the shade," and "Persian, come and get them" (our weapons) are claimed to be actual comments made by Leonidas or other Spartans in the actual battle. "Come and get them" in particular is reported by Plutarch and is often remembered in the Greek phrasing, "molon labe," a popular slogan among gun owners whenever politicians start talking about taking people's guns.
@noah_ncl0223
@noah_ncl0223 2 месяца назад
Zack Snyder is the best director making adaptations of comic books 🤩
@professorbugbear
@professorbugbear 2 месяца назад
The hole was a well. He took them there because they asked for earth and water... "there is plenty of both down there"
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 2 месяца назад
THIS IS SPARTA!!!!
@surfer4378
@surfer4378 2 месяца назад
Leonidas says to Efialtis "I hope you live forever". He lives eternally in the heart of every Greek as the worst betrayer. In Greek, a nightmare is called Efialtis.
@AB-nk5wv
@AB-nk5wv 2 месяца назад
My biggest gripe about 300 and its sequels are how everyone has a British accent 😂
@44excalibur
@44excalibur 2 месяца назад
That's classical theater for you. Blame the Royal Shakespearean Academy.
@inspectre27
@inspectre27 2 месяца назад
Can you imagine Greek accents? I don't know if it would be epic or hilarious.
@Eren-da-Jaeger
@Eren-da-Jaeger 2 месяца назад
Should they have been speaking American accent ? or Greek ? Isn't British accent the original? Or did you want some Greek, mother tongue influence(MTI) on their spoken English?
@Yggdrasil42
@Yggdrasil42 2 месяца назад
At least it wasn't American for once.
@mb8132
@mb8132 2 месяца назад
If that bothers you then boy, don't watch Chernobyl
@ChrisB-yv1sj
@ChrisB-yv1sj 2 месяца назад
The 300 weren’t seen as “enough guys” but, rather, were sent to slow the Persians down, in hopes that the army would follow in support. Fun fact: many of the great Spartan one-liners (e.g. “…then we shall fight in the shade”) survive from the original accounts of the battle. Whether they were actually said on the battlefield is an open question but they are definitely not lines written by Hollywood.
@alaneskew2664
@alaneskew2664 2 месяца назад
Three things, the guy who played the Storyteller also played faramir in The Lord of the Rings. The guy that played the captain of the 300 is also the same guy that plays GARP in the one piece live action. And the only way for you to have your name on your tombstone in Sparta is as a man to die in battle four as a woman to die in childbirth. That's also how they honored their women Spartan women were trained in Warfare and we're considered incredibly competent Hoplites. Easily the equal of any regular Hoplite unit from any other city-state.
@gregkoss
@gregkoss 17 дней назад
Facts: 1. King Leonidas was around 60 years old when he fought this battle..!! Also today's military schools, teach his war tactics.. 🔥⚔ 2. Efialtis (Εφιάλτης) (The traitor who told Persians the secret passage), actually means "Nightmare" in Greek 3. The phrases below, were actually told by Spartans in that battle a) Get back with your shield, or on it. (᾿Ή τὰν ἢ ἐπὶ τᾶς) b) Then we will fight in the shade. c) Come and get them. (Μολὼν λαβέ)
@Shanakar
@Shanakar 2 месяца назад
In addition to what everyone else said about "May you live forever" His name did live forever because his name Efialtes means "Nightmare" in Greek. Just wanted to add that as I am Spartan, at least, my families bloodline comes from old Sparta. Nowadays we just say Ellinas, which means Hellenic and turned over the years to Greece/Greek.
@danielp1080
@danielp1080 2 месяца назад
"Why did they think 300 was enough?" They didn't, it was a delaying tactic for the rest of Greece to mobilize and prepare... plus there were about 7,000 Greeks fighting the first day. Plus, in mythology, there was a prophecy one of the Spartan kings had to die or Sparta would be destroyed (Sparta had two ruling kings at this point in history).
@wabash9000
@wabash9000 2 месяца назад
My favorite nerdy detail of this movie is the way some of the shots were captured. They made a custom camera rig that had 3 different focal length lenses on 3 different cameras. That is how they were able to get some of the action shots where it starts wide and zooms in when it goes into slow motion and then goes back to wide angle. It was all done in one action so the zooming felt very fluid because it was all captured at once and they were able to pick and choose their framing for different shots.
@drchaos2000
@drchaos2000 2 месяца назад
one historical quirk about spartan society is that in their society women could inherit and own land, and by marrying one man after another who all fell in battle some spartan women were the richest women in history aside from queens and empresses
@j.woodbury412
@j.woodbury412 2 месяца назад
The Carneia was one of the tribal traditional festivals of Sparta, the Peloponnese and Doric cities of Magna Grecia (The Greek speaking area of Southern Italy), held in honor of Apollo Karneios. It was an annual festival that took place from the 7th to the 15th day of the month and all military operations were suspended during that time.
@GaParanormal
@GaParanormal 2 месяца назад
Iv been to Greece.. been to the pass , they have a statue of a lion where Leonidas body was found ... and the sign is still there ...." go tell a Spartans passers by that here by spartan law we lie "
2 месяца назад
The comic was already an exaggerated version of history. - First of all, every one of the 300 was accompanied by a slave squire that carried for him the replacement spears, food, etc. - Second, they didn't fight in underwar xD. Every one of the 300 is a noble and had a full set of armor, which was not a common thing because those were expensive and were made enterily of bronze. As military society they train everyday in the full armor, that is made of bronze and is very heavy, and that's why they were buff beasts. That was uncommon because even if nobles in other cities owned full good armor sets, they weren't trained that often, they just own those armors as a sign of wealthy.
@garyboulware4672
@garyboulware4672 2 месяца назад
Dilios' story is a sad one. Despite following his kings' orders, he was still shunned by the Spartans. The end battle was the Battle of Plataea, and Dilios fought like a madman, but was still never given his honor.
@Metzwerg74
@Metzwerg74 2 месяца назад
21:22 as You just said, "this is so metal".... it`s a movie like a 2 hour Manowar Video....
@meechos1998
@meechos1998 2 месяца назад
Actually the Spartans were about a thousand, because anyone of them had two assists with the same training education and they had spears,arows, they were always near and took the place of their boss if was injured or died.Those assistants were Greeks from the places controlled by Spartans,"Lakonia".
@captainobvious8949
@captainobvious8949 2 месяца назад
Historian here. The movie is 100% true. It's basically a documentation.
@Atlas9766
@Atlas9766 2 месяца назад
Cap, based on my research it's one a those "based on a true story" type movies
@ekill1395
@ekill1395 2 месяца назад
Fun fact: The last known words of the real, historical Leonidas were, “Molon Labe,” which would translate to, “Come and take them.” Also, the term “laconic”, meaning a concise or terse statement, especially a blunt or elliptical rejoinder, is named for Laconia, a region of Ancient Greece that contained Sparta. In addition to Spartans being known for their tough and warrior culture, they were also known for their verbal austerity and pithy remarks.
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