A Rokform mount is the best way to add 10 HP to your 300! Don't believe me get one and try it out! www.rokform.com/ and use code YN25 for 25% off your order
But derestrict it out of the factory it puts only 202HP at the rear wheel but with ECU flash and air filter you can get up to 250HP rear wheel which is more suited for a newer rider.
@@jeff86ing not too rare, they're available in the market but you'd usually buy a 400 up if you wanna travel across the country and given that traffic is stop and go, buying anything above a 300 may make it difficult to weave through everyone. Also wanna point out that lanes are small here, with some roads having lanes that barely fit an SUV
This is why I sold VFR750 and quit for now. I would rather have 250cc or 400cc old inline for just for relaxing cruise with proper 4cylinder sound and oldstyle look.
I rather keep my 2015 Honda CB300 and literally never have to fix it than buying a KTM and replacing headgaskets and pistonrings every 5000 km. Japanese 250/300's are great commuter bikes (ok except the suzi). You just change engineoil and if you are fancy you change fork oil every 15000 km. They are indestructable and very economical. You zip through traffic and have fun with your minus 1 tooth on the front sprocket and your cheap slip on. I wouldn't want to take a 650 to work everyday. I love my 150kg 300 and I will keep it until it breaks in the year 3000. :-)
Dude, he literally said at 1:04 that starting on a 300 is a right decision... They still suck in comparison to bigger bikes especially when you're a more experienced rider
@@JamesBiggar First You ride bikes not drive them.. Second they talk shit about every bike and it's cons no matter the category or type. No reason to get butt hurt.
As the owner of a CBR300 with 20 000 miles, the bike rides smooth with enough power to do wheelies, outrun most cars (just not on highway) and get you into trouble. The build quality is not bad it actually feels expensive when you ride it thanks to the great brakes and suspension. If you want to buy one as a starter bike, go ahead you will not regret it. It is slower than the other 300's but for a beginner it really has plenty. 300's do not suck, are excellent commuters and are super flickable. You will eventually want more but may decide to keep it while getting something bigger due to excellent fuel economy for commuting.
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 I have the CB300R since three years and I don't see myself on another machine. Well apart from the CBF 125 for a few short trips 😂
@@AsekiBekovy what year do you guys have?? I’m looking to get my first motorcycle and everything is really expensive near me, i have found some older models tho
300cc motorcycles can hit 100MPH so here in the UK where most people start on a 125, as soon as you upgrade to a 300 it feels amazing. And honestly you’re rarely going to go above 100mph (if at all)
Lol here in the US there are interstate stretches where packs of cars do 90-100mph. Dallas to Houston TX is 250 miles of moms doing just that. Hell, I just did the stretch at 115-130mph.
@Trevor Brannon I started on a 250 ninja and after about 2 seasons I bought an R6 because I wanted something bigger (more comfortable) and less sluggish on the highway. I honestly couldn’t be happier. I don’t necessarily want or need a liter bike but who knows.. we will see what the wife thinks come summer 😂
@@ethannicosia979 Crazy, that's like 160kmh, here in New Zealand the speed limit is 100kmh which is like 60mph. You can for sure get away with 300cc's here.
Nobody told you to not get a 300cc bike. Every motorcycle suck in some way no one is perfect this video just pointing out the cons of smaller bikes compared to bigger and more expensive bikes. even at the beginning of the video, he said if you're a beginner then you should 100% get a 300cc bike. Reading the title is nice but you should watch the video too.
@@Fearless154 Agreed. Pros for a 300cc: -More flickable than all 600cc+ bikes -cheaper price -cheaper insurance -cheaper maintenance -anybody can easily learn on them Cons for 300cc bikes: -Not as powerful as 600cc+ bikes -Doesn't cruise as well on highways at lower rpms like 600cc+ bikes Pros for a 600cc+: -More powerful -More tolerable for the highway power wise and weight wise Cons: -Increased insurance -Increased maintenance costs -Increased prices -Takes more time to learn on In conclusion it's not what you ride. It's that you ride
An aprila rs 125 or a cagiva mito 125 are much faster than these 300 they can even keep up with 600cc and they also cost nothing you can get a cagiva for like 800€
I think the Honda CBR 300r is the perfect starter bike/cruiser. I've passed a dude on a Ducati around turns before. People will try to convince you start with a larger bike, but you'll cheat yourself of gaining true skills. Small bikes build your confidence to a bigger bike in my opinion.
I'd rather a 300 and ride it almost flat out in the mountains, than a 600 and just never push it to it's limit. I feel like Americans have too many wide straight roads to appreciate most bikes.
I’ve had a cbr300r for 3 years now..I like it..it’s light..fast enough..my girlfriend says it’s more comfortable to ride on than a 600 gas mileage is great..this video is false in many ways this guy just sounds like a hater
I had a CBR300R as my first bike (USA). Loved it. Acceleration and exhaust note sucked but otherwise it was great. Then I got an R6; heavy (hard to get used to leaning over), aggressive body position (hard to ride more than 1 hr), goes through tires 2x as fast, etc. It was stolen a few days ago but I don't really miss it. I'm getting another 300. 60 MPG, cheap maintenance, super easy to maintain and fix, awesome for track.
600cc super sport are the worst street bikes you can buy. Even I who enjoy and prefer the aggressive ergonomics I wouldn't ride r6 even if I get it for free. Thats the point of fast bike if it feels slow under 10k which you won't pass on the straight unless it's highway.
Bought the wrong bike, not enough experience, or realistically couldn’t afford it. I bet if you had an SV650 instead you would’ve had a much different opinion.
@@kannermw True. I could afford it but it was just slightly more than I wanted to pay for maintenance sometimes. The cost of repairs also made me more timid because I didn't want to drop it and fix it. Once I get a 300 again I'll take it to the track often and master it. Then I may try a 600cc gain later when I feel ready.
@@D3athduo If you go back to a 300 cc bike you might think WTH. Once you've tasted the adrenaline of power and acceleration it is hard to go back unless you're an old fart who just wants to keep riding and needs something a bit more tame and lighter weight for declining skills.
I'm probably late but you could also try something like CBR650R - it has like 90HP, looks sporty, sounds great and is pretty comfortable. The position is like between a CBR600RR and CBR300R, more sporty but still pretty straight.
Started on a used $3k Ninja 300, upgraded to a used $4k FZ07. I NEEDED those years on that 300, so I can enjoy my 700 more safely now. There are still areas to improve, but at least now I have the torque to get up and out of dangers way when the time comes.
@@srdjanmatic7099 Hello, I'm Italian and I think that starts with 600/1000cc bike it's too dangerous. For drive over 48hp you must have more than 24 years old or 22 if you have the bike license
@@v1ncy982 Hi brother, i am from Balkan, we have exact same law here, 24 years old for full A or 2 years of A2 licence (A2 you can get from 18 here). I think 600 is way too much too, 400 is top limit for someone who never rode a bike (and 35kw ofc max)
Going to be honest I’m going to ignore this whole video because it’s mainly about boring looks, being slow (it’s a beginner bike) experienced riders don’t want them 🤦🏽♂️ and the big 4 don’t cram them with tech, bells and whistles.. I wanna learn to ride properly and not die, I couldn’t give a shit if the power band doesn’t attempt to throw me off the back in the first year or 2
If you’re a bigger bloke, say 5’11+, start on a 500cc. You’ll be able to control it no problem and aesthetically, your bike:person ratio is proportionate.
From a CB300R owner's perspective, I agree to a certain extent. Hopefully I'll be able to get a CB650R for long journeys but around the city, around town, in&out of your moms house; the 300 has proven to be the one fit for the job. Greetings from Mexico
another CB300R here, power is ok if you dont ride like a squid, i do several 300+ km rides, not the most confortable experience possible but for the motorcycle itself is perfectly fine. i suggest +1 front sprocket because stock one is too short and stock speedometer is 10% optimistic, so with a +1 is only 2% off and cruising 80+ kmh is more relaxing
The late great racer Gary Nixon's daily bike was a Ninja 250. If such a bike was enough for one of the greatest motorcycle racers of all time, then it's good enough for everyone
Yammie's got a lot stupid videos. This one easily breaks top 5. I'm ooking at the streets in europe. Many people riding smaller engines with two wheels. Cause is enough. Love for motorcycles is about more than just power.
I have a 2020 yamaha R3. Im new to motorcycling. Had it for 1 month now. On the weekends I can spend 6 hours riding it on highways. Covering about 350kms with a few 5 minute breaks on the way. I actually feel no complaints. Passing speed is there. Control is good. Easy to handle. At this stage I have nothing to complain about so I dont know what you are on about Yammie 😆
Guys what should i get next year? 1. Trade in my '10 R1 and pay the left over amount for a '15 R1M. Or 2. Keep the '10 R1 and get an XSR900 for on the side. Thnx for any advice! Nice video Yammie 👍
@@joeyg29jgjg Hi Joe, haven't done 1 yet. Would love to tho. Only it's not possible any more in The Netherlands to insure your bike on track, so that's what is keeping me back tbh. Have the bike for 8 years now, zero issues and done almost 40k kilometers / 26k miles on it.
Spite, dont forget some people dont have height on their side! Im an adult that stands 5'6" in shoesies and at about 135 lbs in weight I need less power to push me down the road. I for one am glad there are a tonne of options for us shortys. Little bikes are not only great for newbs but many short people will only ever need smaller displacement bikes that fit them just right!
I watched this forever ago but now that I own a 300 and have rode it for a while. I have some reasons I love my cbr. It was cheap, I can ride it for at least 2 hours(that’s the longest trip I’ve taken) with problems with comfort, i can crank it to 90% of what it’s capable of and not kill myself, I have made a few mistakes that would’ve killed me on a bigger bike, and I can put it down or beat it up and not worry about destroying a expensive bike that I value a lot. Still want a 600 but I’m not going to be impatient
Your roads and traffic is good for a bike like 390. I have friends wo faced several issue with the 390 like the alloy bend. Coolant and engine oil mixing issue.
I got a little Honda Cb300f and while I agree with most of what you say I can't get behind they aren't fun. My bike at top speed can just barely hit 100mph but its plenty for me right now. I love how slim and light the bike is how easy I can handle it and I love being able to ride it aggressively through the regular roads in my town. if it were a 600 it would be too fast to ride that aggressively. It's fine on the high way I agree you might have to be a little patient but There is plenty of people who have lots of fun on 300s. While they may not be your "forever bike" I love my bike and I'll never get rid of it even when I upgrade because it's my first and the memories I've already had on it will stay with my forever.
For me, i own a 150cc now, but due to the crowded city i live in, i cant go bigger than 500cc. So 300 would be suitable for daily use, and wont be uncomfortable to use. The 300 im going for is the Benelli 302S. Small and suitable for traffic in Vietnam.
I will say I am intrigued by the idea of picking a real good 300/400 and keeping it around even well after you upgrade to a bigger bike just as something to throw around corners and wring the heck out of while still being cheap and easy to maintain, all without the scare factor of jumping straight into a 650 or a 900cc from a bicycle.
Fair perspective. As a CB300F rider for 3 years, I am grateful for 300cc class of bikes. (I do think the TW200 at the Team Oregon class is the spawn of Satan though - It almost destroyed my interest in motorcycling forever) I never thought it would be my "forever" bike, but I just cant bring myself to get rid of it. As for fun? It's on par with a Toyota Corolla in acceleration, but the fun is in the corners. And a lot of fun it is.
I got a r3 as a first bike, its fun for a month, if u can restrain yourself, get what size engine you want as long as you feel physically comfortable operating it.
Wow I respect that! I started on ninja300 and after 1 years I was so hungry for something more powerful and went for s1000rr, usually I switch bikes every 1/2 years currently I own 2017 tuono 1100rr. It's so nice for you to be happy with one motorcycle for such a long time I wish I could do the same.
250 dual sports are fun off-road but not so much on the street unless you are just cruising around in town. Shifting is not fun when compared to brisk acceleration, deceleration, and cornering possible from a more powerful bike.
@@kannermw No. I started with a 125 and now got a duke 390. And I agree that a smaller bike can be more fun. The 125 is way too little, and you struggle keeping high speed. But otherwise, it is so light, the engine revs super high all the time like nothing, plus the clutch and the gear shift is so smooth and soft, you can spend the whole day changing gears. With the 300s the clutch and the gear shift gets stiffer and more tiering. And about cornering, you are completely wrong. A lighter bike corners way better and harder than a heavy one. So in the right roads a small bike can be way more fun than a powerful one. I would not go back to the 125 for a trip, but for certain roads, the 125 was more fun than the 390, specially when going downhill. Because the 390 can do the same with a lower rev, and without changing gears. With a more powerful bike, you need to force yourself to keep the revs high. Add that the fact that it is more tiering, and you are less likely to go hard and have the same fun. I can not imagine how much more boring it can be with a 600. I don't even want to know... The sweet spot is between 200 and 400 cc in my opinion.
So i just tried the clutchless upshift today on my bike. It jerked so hard, it caught me off guard. Have i done that with a 1000cc i would have flown over the car in front of me that was a mile away.
You know what would be a great replacement for the GSXR 250? Bring back the SV400/S. Use the suspension from the 650, bring back the 2 pot Tokico brakes they just replaced with the 4 pots on the 650. Would probably be hard to get it down under $5k, though, especially if they wanted to bring out a faired version. Ah well, probably stuck with the GSXR until suzuki finishes developing the parallel twin they're replacing the ol' V twin with.
PS, Yammie should pick up an Ixil Hyperlow for the next batch of giveaway bikes. Already compared the $500 Leo Vince to the $80 ebay special on the SV650, should take a look at something in the $300-350 range.
The final episode on Yam's channel will be "You know what? Don't even buy a bike." I love my Ninja 300, but I purchased it for the sole purpose of having it as a beginner bike and once I can hone my skills then I'll upgrade.
Funny thing about this video being posted. I’ve had my eye on a BMW G 310 R for a while now. Seems to check all of the boxes when it comes to an “in-city” bike, which exactly what I plan on doing a majority of the time. Plus the backroads around here are better enjoyed going at a moderate pace (read: under 55 mph). So, for that (plus learning to ride as a noob) I personally think 300s are an excellent choice.
@bajacore. For the price the BMW is a pretty damn good bike and with ABS for added safety. Plus, not laden with the typical BMW gizmos that lower reliabilty and cost a bundle to fix.
@kannermw It seems teaming up with TVS was a good idea after all. Don’t know much about them, but being the largest motorcycle manufacturer in India (where there’s as many bikes as cars) has its merits. Plus, helps to keep costs down. I’m 90% sold on buying one. Just need to sit on it and take it for a ride.
I currently ride a 2020 Ninja400 but have ridden the Honda CBR250rr and its a amazing bike for its displacement with all the bells and whistles of a bigger bike. I also got to see the Kawasaki zx25r in the flesh last weekend here in Japan and it sounded phenomenal. The new era of small displacement bikes are upon us and the West (primarily the US) are so hung up on size that they are gonna miss out lol.
Holy cow, THIS^^^^ !!! There are so many badass small displacement bikes, sport or otherwise, that manufacturers will probably never offer to the North American market simply because they aren't "man enough". Super annoying
"A 300 doesn't have enough power." That's the whole point, you have to actually ride it to make it go. You paid for XXX cc motorcycle, shouldn't you use all the cc? Ask any liter bike guy if he has ever had the throttle wide open on a public road without crashing or committing felony speeding. This channel is turning into Scotty Kilmer 2: 'I hate bikes' review
The thing is that 300cc-400cc bikes are really popular in Europe because we have those stupid A1,A2 and A license categories. Unless you are 24 years old you can only ride bikes that have under 48hp. Or you can get a bigger bike at 20 years old if you rode a small cc bike for at least 2 years.
I'd really love to see you guys do a CB(R)500r as part of your beginner bike series. In my opinion it is the perfect beginner bike, it addresses a lot of the issues you mentioned here.
Come on, fetishists, is this even a word? Seriously though, 300 cc bikes don’t all look the same until, bam, a 390 KTM. Riding a 390 Duke is leaps and bounds compared to other 300s, ABS and different rider controls, this header on the video should have been “300s suck unless it’s KTM”.
This Video:300CC Bike Sucks Me a Southeast Asian Guy who own 150 cc and 125 cc and 100 cc Even 80 cc (European,Australian And American can’t understand us)
@@katajiro8178 False. Even when you're above 24 you still need 2 years of experience on a2 license and can't just have your unrestricted just because you're 24 and above.
To have a 270 Degree crank is really awesome. The sound like mixing V2 and V4 engine. The Benelli BN 302R sounds very good for a small displacement bike, despite having the weight of an R1.
I just bought a Ninja 300! Haha. Glad I did helped me find your vids. 6' bike is too small... and the damn blinker arrows can't see them. Good video. Thank you
This video is literally just to milk views..it's so stupid and obvious things. He literally wants 300s to have insane technology and considering alot of 300s do actually have slipper clutch,abs etc his point is even more irrelevant. Also how is build quality even bad, these 300s are well built with good ENOUGH brakes dashes etc for a beginner. It's literally picking on very stupid things, like he's comparing 1000cc to 300cc bikes and expects them to be the same or whatever??? "300s aren't fun" BRUH
Agreed. I’ve had more fun on my 300 in the month since I started riding again than I’ve had in the last decade of my life. And I specifically went after a bare bones bike because I know that learning on it will make me a more competent rider in the long-run. Why anyone would want ABS or traction control on a beginner bike is beyond me.
It’s just a series. They go over why every motorcycle class sucks. This is just the “300 sucks” series. Some of his points are a little irrelevant but it’s just conversation
@@sicdedworm09 I know it's a series, but as I said it's to milk views/make money rather than make a good quality video. I rather watch FortNine's videos all over again than this video. Don't get me wrong I like YN but he is trying to make videos that are both comedic and factual and doesn't really work out for him.
@@atem8101 You may feel they are milking views but nobody is forcing you guys to watch. They have a schedule of content creation that they stick to, some videos are much more interesting than others. They basically have to follow youtube's algorithm or they go back to their day jobs & then yay! No more YN. Car & moto channels don't make huge income on youtube, when compared to other categories.
Killing me bro.. watched yammie videos for 2 months before finally buying an R3, based on Yammie's recommendations, last November.. Was bored with it by February and now I have to get something bigger.. No dealerships let you test ride before buying a bike, so now I'm wondering where to go for a 2nd bike
In my opinion a 500cc or 650cc if you’re a bigger rider would be a better starter bike/forever bike. I started and still own my 2013 Honda CBR500R that tops out @115 which means when your doing 70-80 on the highways you aren’t at the top of your rpms and buzzing like a swarm of locus. And if you’re wondering about the 650cc it’s top speed is usually around 140 and just because it’s 50 more cc’s than the 600 doesn’t mean it’s faster. It’s timed to be a all around bike and a practical bike for around town, highway, and if you choose to let it rip you’ll be able to have fun! The gearing is made for practicality in mind not racing Per se compared to a 600 or 1000
$5k for my Ninja 400 and I love it, my previous bikes were junk purchased on the side of the road. compared to my 70-80’s bikes it’s a dream. I don’t need many cc’s to get great smiles per gallon ⛽️
@@jimmytorello7041 I usually live around Mountain roads and when it comes to twists the Yamaha r3 handles way better and it's pretty fast, overall I found Yamaha r3 way better especially when it comes to mountain roads, but yeah everyone is not the same so what someone finds good may not be better for others
Yammie's got all your numbers. he is poking at the wounds and you guys watch the videos and get all fired up. he's got the method down for getting eyeballs on his channel. I love it!
Got a GSXR-600 as my first street bike don’t regret it. As long as you stay under 9-10k rpms it’s a baby. Never been on a 300 but I imagine it’s like staying under 6k Rpms on my gsxr
300s are still cool. I'd rather have something closer to 400cc, and I'd need new rearsets and throw clip ons on. And also, baby Inline 4s 🤤 They are pretty useless on the street though, unless you street rossi on back end twisties.
Remember that, _in general_ , US Americans tend to be taller than people from other parts of the world. So a bigger bike would not suit in most of the Big 4's target markets.
Here I am 1 year later and I got a used 2017 Versys X300 ABS and I love it. I'm the second owner and It had a little over 6000 miles. It cruises at 75 on TX highways (60+mpg) with 3000 left to redline. It pulls from 4000 rpm. I wonder how you will feel when your 75 and I was 6'1 1/2" when I graduated in 65. I'm still 5'10" and 180 and I want to add a Grom to my stable. I can't ride a sport bike because of my back. I learned this on a Buell XB9R. I know I won't be around when you are 75, but I do wonder how you will feel then. 4 wheels move the body, 2 wheels move the soul. Peace✌
i learned on a 200cc twin cruiser from the 80s and a 250 single enduro. Switching to a 500 twin sport bike was a big change and felt insanely fast by comparison. I honestly think starting on a 200 to 300 is a good decision for many, but starting on a 500 might better prepare you for a 600 or 900 later one while still being a decent bike all around.
Coming back to riding after 20 years got a 300 ninja that thing is a blast..no fancy buttons are modes no abs just simple..worry about how to handle a bike properly..i do curves in my local canyon way over posted speed...o im 6ft 1. 250 pounds and 55yrs old pushing that 300 around is so fun
