345. Raiders of the Lost Ark

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The most important object in the universe, but also a somewhat invisible presence in the Bible, the Ark of the Covenant has fuelled stories for millennia, whether as a weapon of mass destruction, an elaborate filling cabinet for sacred laws, or as the very location where God and man meet. Join Tom and Dominic as they delve into the mysteries surrounding the Ark of the Covenant, its creation, its importance and its eventual disappearance…
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@VesnaVK 8 месяцев назад

The rings were precisely so that you could transport the Ark without touching it. (By threading poles through the rings.) The Bible has loads of contradictions, but this is not one of them.

@philhurwood3056 3 месяца назад

I reckon Ethiopia might be the go! I have no trouble believing in the arks existence, otherwise the biblical narrative would seem a little pointless. It simply symbolised God's presence in the heart of the temple. A role that Christians understood was fulfilled in Jesus of Nazareth...

@murph8411 5 месяцев назад

I don’t see how you can say that the Jews having a covenant with god was something completely unknown outside this religion since even the Romans had contracts with their gods unless I’m very mistaken. Making sacrifices to gods could also be seen as making a contract with a god or gods and sacrifices were common in many religions.

@cg98243 Месяц назад

Yet the covenant between God and Abraham, as well as its subsequent revisits with Moses and Jesus, seems to imply more of a two-way bargain of extended obligation, at least to me.

@TEMindset83702 7 месяцев назад

Most Jews accept the ark was destroyed when the First Temple was destroyed by Babylon. If not, then the priests hid it somewhere in the tunnels under the Temple Mount.

@Blashswanski Год назад

Probably important to point out that Raiders is, along with everything else, a Jewish revenge fantasy.

@johnbenson4672 Год назад

In before the r/athiest ambassador shows up, lol. Couple of mistakes, Once the Ark was sanctified it wasn't Moses who would go into the Most Holy, it was Aaron and the high priests that followed him. Also, the Levites who were a part of Aaron's family were the ones who were assigned to assemble and disassemble the Tabernacle and move the Ark. There was a cover for it when they moved it around. The Bible is silent as to what happened to it. Whether it was the Egyptians, the Babylonians, the Jews or someone else took it is a mystery. One thing Raiders solidly got wrong, in the movie the cherubs over the Ark are female but for the Jews the cherub would be male.

@faeembrugh 5 месяцев назад

I always enjoyed imagining the Ark ending up in a museum and some cleaner opening it to see what's inside...

@j0nnyism 15 дней назад

I fully expect it to turn up on antiques roadshow some day

@Johnconno 7 месяцев назад

'Also it's very very Jewish...'😅

@williambranch4283 Год назад

Could listen to Tom Holland forever ;-) It might take forever to listen to all these podcasts ;-)

@maxheadrom3088 Год назад

You know ... Rabi Mel Brooks once claimed there were 15 commandments!

@joebombero1 17 дней назад

Measurements for the Ark in the Bible is very close to the measurements for the Shrine of Anubis from King Tut's tomb. Also those shrines are very close in measurements to the Ark which is required to be in each Ethiopian Orthodox Church, a copy of the original Ark which the Ethiopian Orthodox Church has from ancient times.

@cg98243 Месяц назад

Maybe missing the point of the book of Judges a bit. Gruesome chapter 29 is a hint, as well as the closing statement about everyone doing as they wished...

@Kookaburger 7 дней назад

The ark doesn’t float in the air, it’s only carried by ppl…most ppl are not allowed to handle the ark only a sect of priests, I think it’s a sect within a sect of priests

@ceeeceeeeeeeeeeeeee 26 дней назад

Kinda sloppy research on this one. Moses wasn't allowed to enter the holy of holies, only Aaron and future high priests. And scripture clearly tells us that Moses was commanded to hew the second set of tablets himself.

@maxheadrom3088 Год назад

You mean the Bible is not exactly like things were in reality?

@Kookaburger 7 дней назад

No contradictions in the Bible, just misunderstandings

@stephengray1344 4 месяца назад

I'm disappointed that Tom didn't mention into how the Biblical description of the Ark is clearly based on the ritual furniture of 19th Dynasty Egypt. Did his research not turn up "The Ark of the Covenant in its Egyptian context" as source material?

@georgerichwine1864 Год назад

Isn't the ark actually a radio receiver from God?

@Johnconno 7 месяцев назад

You're thinking of Cocaine.😂

@bucksolo703 8 месяцев назад

When the ark is on the ship with Indiana there are rats around it

@bookaufman9643 Год назад

I believe that ten Jews gathered together in prayer is a Minyan. They have to be men and elders of the Schul.

@arden8290 Год назад

It always bothered me that in Raiders of the Lost Ark they had the staff and the sun shone through it. But on what day of the year? Would be different.

@williambranch4283 Год назад

Multiple Jewish temples, including Heliopolis and Elephantine in Egypt. Ultimately brought to several places in Ethiopia, where it remains ;-) Queen of Sheba/King Menelik her son, being featured in yet another story.

@moreliarodriguez4482 Год назад

Great episode. You're very knowledgeable.

@johnbullard902 Год назад

Yes, Tom needs to read his bible a little more carefully

@katherinestafford7628 18 дней назад

2 Samuel 6:6,7 makes clear the issue is to NOT TOUCH the Ark. Uzza, son of Abinadav, is struck down by God because when the cart carrying the Ark is in danger of falling, Uzza teaches out to steady it. ZAP V

@j0nnyism 15 дней назад

I know people complain that raiders of the lost ark make’s archaeology too exciting but there’s one real example that makes those films quite dull and that’s the discovery of Tutankhamen tomb. The tomb of Philip 2nd of macedon and the finding of Troy are pretty close seconds. Reality is sometimes stranger and much more interesting than fiction

@maxheadrom3088 Год назад

You mean to say the Arc in the film is not exactly like the real one?

@j0nnyism 15 дней назад

They’re beautiful! Aargh (claymation melting face)

@Chadhogan111 7 месяцев назад

It's radioactive

@robertafierro5592 Год назад

I thought this was a good idea..

@louisburke8927 8 месяцев назад

Siney-eye?

@bedofromkokstad9034 5 месяцев назад

Definitely sounds like an alien artifact that nobody knew what it was, so gave it god-like status and treated it reverently. So very "apes and monolith" as in "2001 Space Odyssey".... Every church in Ethiopia claims it houses it... Once a year they're all taken out and carried to a central celebration (New Year maybe? - They're 7 years behind us).... Fascinating.

@JullianRoman Год назад

Fascinating episode! Best ever!

@barrylyons9296 9 месяцев назад

Indiana Jones was my childhood hero. I don't care about Nazis, or snakes.

@barbararice6650 Месяц назад

I thought there was a carving of Roman soldiers carrying it away after the sack of Jerusalem on Vespasian(?)'s arch

@ceeeceeeeeeeeeeeeee 26 дней назад

That's a lamp that some claim was the menorah. Many Jewish scholars disagree and hold that the actual menorah was hidden along with the ark and other vessels of the first temple.

@barbararice6650 24 дня назад

@@ceeeceeeeeeeeeeeeee There you go then 😐

@forbuzz4870 9 дней назад

Ark...shmark ...

@bookaufman9643 Год назад

Once upon a time I used to take Bible class before my classes started at High School. There's a passage in the Bible where one of the guys carrying the ark of the covenant slips and God strikes him dead for jolting or nearly dropping the ark. It's really strange but this was a breaking point for me. Any God that would strike somebody dead for stumbling unconsciously and without malice is not a god that I wanted to be involved with. I honestly made that decision there and then in that class and have never turned back.

@williambranch4283 Год назад

G-d isn't love ... G-d is life ... and death is inseparable from death.

@bookaufman9643 Год назад

@@williambranch4283 you don't need a God for life and death. Man creates life and man creates death. Unfortunately he seems to do both with equal enthusiasm.

@Verita1975 8 месяцев назад

God didn’t want the Ark moved.. but if it was to be moved it could only be done by a Levite … if someone who was not supposed to touch the ark … they got zapped !

@murph8411 5 месяцев назад

Uzzah touches the ark to steady it when it is being taken to Jerusalem by David and God kills him immediately. Is that the story you’re thinking about?

@bookaufman9643 5 месяцев назад

@@murph8411 yep that's the one. That's one cool God isn't it. The guy wants to protect this holy thing because it is a vessel of this great force that he admires and worships and that admiring and worshiping Force strikes him dead for trying to avoid letting it fall to the ground. That's an asshole move by God. 100%

@colefowles4003 9 месяцев назад

What a great podcast thanks so much for sharing!

@danacrowzedd1118 Год назад

How do I know when the live shows are happening? Are they on RU-vid?

@jonmeador8637 5 месяцев назад

What's in the Ark? The second set of 10 Commandments. Moses destroyed the first set. Oddly, the second set bears no resemblance to the first. Anyone who says "Thou shalt not kill" is in the 10 Commandments hasn't read them.

@joebombero1 17 дней назад

The actual Hebrew says, Thou Shalt not Murder". Hebrew, like English, has separate words for killing in general and illegal killing. Obviously killing in some circumstances was required as the Temple Mount sold birds and other animals to be used in making sacrifices, also obviously warfare was tolerated if not encouraged.

@williambranch4283 Год назад

The Barq of Amon, when it toured Thebes during festivals, was carried on poles, and magically tilted in answer to worshipper's questions .. like "table tipping" seance. Completely plausible it led the Israelites in the desert, but not free floating ... that was insulting ;-(

@louisburke8927 8 месяцев назад

Indiawna?

@tommonk7651 6 месяцев назад

Raiders of the Lost Ark was/is a terrific adventure film. I never thought about taking it seriously. LOL And the Bible is not exactly an impeccable source.