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3800 Series III Lower Intake Manifold Gasket DIY 

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@Brian-fo8sh
@Brian-fo8sh Год назад
I have a 96 LeSabre with the 3.8 and 118k that is absolutely beautiful. I bought it from an 89 year old woman. She had the coolant elbow replaced with the aluminum. She also had the upper intake gasket replaced but not the lower. This year has the rear elbow incorporated in the tensioner. I have replaced all 4 struts, new brakes and rotors, rear wheel cylinders, water pump, hoses, thermostat, coolant flush, valve cover gaskets with new grommets, power steering pump and subframe bushings. Everything was pretty easy but just time consuming. The hardest thing I’ve done to this car was the subframe bushings…OMG what a job!!!
@willborio8613
@willborio8613 Год назад
This video is why I ordered all new gaskets. When the weather warms up a bit and I can spend 2 days outside I'm doing the timing, water pump, valve covers and lower intake plus the new aluminum elbows all at once. It's my work beater I just bought and it's leaking oil around both sides of the lower intake. As well as the transmission fluid change and gasket because that has trans fluid almost all the way around the pan
@JisINSANE3
@JisINSANE3 3 года назад
I'm doing this job right now on a 03 impala LS with 56 thousand miles i just bought. The plastic coolant elbow was leaking but oil was also getting pushed up out the lower intake bolts. Its a fun job. On a side note, the inside of the engine looks brand new.
@coledoesthings4618
@coledoesthings4618 3 года назад
Ya these engines are pretty bullet proof, even with minimum maintenance
@A_Dilophosaurus
@A_Dilophosaurus 3 месяца назад
this was incredibly helpful! managed to replace the gaskets despite having zero experience with car repairs, unfortunately the head gaskets are also shot so i will be needing a new engine :/
@secretchipmunk7
@secretchipmunk7 2 месяца назад
@@A_Dilophosaurus that's cool. I should have watched but it was -20 out when I got it done in a half heated garage
@oso_westside47
@oso_westside47 3 года назад
MAn i bought an 04 grand prix last year and boy i wish i saw your video before i started mine cause i was not prepared for what all it entailed... it was my 1st head gasket change...whould you consider doing voice over for this video... great camera skills and positioning keep it up guy
@coledoesthings4618
@coledoesthings4618 3 года назад
Thanks! It’s a hefty job, but not terrible !
@appalachianfishing8548
@appalachianfishing8548 3 года назад
Just putting this out there. The head gasket itself almost never goes out. GM designed them with a weaker than usual intake gasket. It blows way before the head gasket 99 % of the time. I worked as a mechanic for yrs and I done probably 200 of these to be honest and I only seen 2 head gaskets blown. The sad part is other garages told most of them they had a blew head gasket
@cooljeremyg
@cooljeremyg Год назад
@@appalachianfishing8548 Hey my 2000 Grand Prix GTP has white smoke coming out of the exhaust. I am assuming that it is too late at this point and that the head gasket has already gone out. It has 260k miles on it so I am not expecting much more from the car. Do you agree?
@shuperman7063
@shuperman7063 Год назад
I just bought a Grand Prix gtp and tore into it thinking it was head gaskets. Turns out it was the lower intake manifold. I believe it’s an 04
@secretchipmunk7
@secretchipmunk7 9 месяцев назад
@@appalachianfishing8548 I was just going to say this! Lol. Definitely beware of shops saying head gasket because it's rarely that. I swear people don't know how to diagnose properly at most shops
@arcentalesnoel
@arcentalesnoel Год назад
To get the air out of the system, do you leave the car on without refrigerant? I’m going to change the gasket in my Pontiac
@atxjax1
@atxjax1 3 года назад
Good video thanks. I have a 2007 Lucerne. Keeps getting Misfire on Cyl 3, changed plugs and wires, moved coils around and same issue. Wish I had a borescope to view inside engine to see if #3 cylinder was steam cleaned.
@coledoesthings4618
@coledoesthings4618 3 года назад
Wish I could help. Harbor freight has a decent tool for $60 that would get inside the head. I never ran into a misfire issue, but is it random or misfire every time?
@atxjax1
@atxjax1 3 года назад
@@coledoesthings4618 Misfire is constant on #3. I have a scanner that does data logging and can watch the misfire count increase. Whats the best way to check for a leaky lower intake manifold gasket?
@davesomeone4059
@davesomeone4059 3 года назад
@@atxjax1 leak down test
@michaelm1785
@michaelm1785 2 года назад
@@atxjax1 On the 3800 forums on FB, I saw that if while the engine is at idle and warm, if you remove the oil filler cap and it stumbles and wants to stall, that is a dead giveaway that the LIM is shot. Haven't tried it myself...but guess why I'm at this page? LOL and I also have an '07 Lucerne CXL.
@Simmygameplay
@Simmygameplay Год назад
Me seeing the radiator i know for sure what i have to do lol. No coolant in oil but oil in coolant. Make alot of sense.
@oso_westside47
@oso_westside47 3 года назад
Also have you ever worked on 04-13 Nissan Murano? major problems with those are timing and cv joint failures..
@coledoesthings4618
@coledoesthings4618 3 года назад
I haven’t, but have definitely read some of the horror stories when looking for an suv a few years ago.
@cooljeremyg
@cooljeremyg Год назад
Hey Cole, thanks for the video. My 2000 Grand Prix GTP has white smoke coming out of the exhaust. I am assuming that it is too late at this point and that the head gasket has already gone out. It has 260k miles on it so I am not expecting much more from the car. Do you agree?
@secretchipmunk7
@secretchipmunk7 9 месяцев назад
Do a leak down test. Check combustible gas in radiator.
@rainfieldmusic
@rainfieldmusic Год назад
Actually not too bad of a job. I still would rather not do it... but somebody is gonna have to do it 🙄 Thanks for the info
@hucklesnook1848
@hucklesnook1848 Год назад
Can the LIM be mistaken for head gasket replacement? My mechanic told me the heads aren't blown, but that the thermostat has to stay out of the car until winter or it will get hot again. He also believes the problem is still the head gasket even though it is not blown, does this make sense? 2008 Buick Lacrosse 82k miles.
@secretchipmunk7
@secretchipmunk7 9 месяцев назад
How is the head gasket and issue if it's not blown ? Genuine question that I might learn from. My experience is mechanics are too quick to say head gasket and it winds up being intakes. Just do the leak down test and you'll know
@secretchipmunk7
@secretchipmunk7 9 месяцев назад
Why is it running hot? I mean, head gasket going to keep it hot whether it's summer or winter. Is it just the engine running hot under the hood? My engine was giving off too much heat under hood and it's fixed now with intakes. Of course my temperature gauge on dash was normal, not overheating
@CountLemur
@CountLemur 2 года назад
Did you replace the upper gasket?
@19211926
@19211926 3 года назад
Nice video. How many hrs do you think it took you? I have a 2005 Buick with the same engine and 125K miles. I just started losing a little coolant but haven't found the leak yet. I have a bad back so I'll be paying someone. Thanks
@coledoesthings4618
@coledoesthings4618 3 года назад
It took me a couple hours here and there over the course of 3 days. I would bet it could be done in 4 hours by professionals.
@19211926
@19211926 3 года назад
@@coledoesthings4618 Thanks
@NM-yp1lv
@NM-yp1lv 3 года назад
What torque specs did you use in the upper manifold?
@oso_westside47
@oso_westside47 3 года назад
idk where you live but if it helps try a local library they have manuals you can rent out and look and get the specs from there like the Haynes manuals
@ItsaRomethingeveryday
@ItsaRomethingeveryday 3 года назад
So,, what is the difference between the series 2 and the series 3?
@coledoesthings4618
@coledoesthings4618 3 года назад
Honestly, not too sure. I think just the aluminum intake and some internals. Not much.
@MrBigblockbuick
@MrBigblockbuick 3 года назад
Electronic throttle body, forged connecting rods, heads, larger valves, aluminum intake, aluminum oil pan (05-08) and a few other things I can't remember
@tylerlogsdon8623
@tylerlogsdon8623 Год назад
@@MrBigblockbuick my 2000 series 2 and 99 series 2(both from firebirds) both have electronic throttle
@enriquefuentes7403
@enriquefuentes7403 3 года назад
Are the gaskets the same as a series II engine?
@coledoesthings4618
@coledoesthings4618 3 года назад
I think so. As far as I’m aware, the main difference between series II/III is the upper intake manifold. It’s plastic on series III.
@mookjdg
@mookjdg 8 месяцев назад
Can you tell me realistically how many hours does it take
@A_Dilophosaurus
@A_Dilophosaurus 5 месяцев назад
30 or so I think? not too bad tbh (i don't know how to put it back together)
@jim_cathymcclendon6091
@jim_cathymcclendon6091 3 года назад
When you did the engine mount did you have a jack under there?
@coledoesthings4618
@coledoesthings4618 3 года назад
Great question. I actually don’t remember. This was a while ago, and I did the timing cover gasket at the same time so I had the entire front of the car apart. My guess is that I did have the Jack/tire under there just for support in case a stand failed. The engine didn’t move at all when I took that mount off, so that leads me to believe I had something under there supporting it.
@oso_westside47
@oso_westside47 3 года назад
you dont need a jack for this car it has 2 sets of mounts upper and lower carriage but a jack helps when you are trying to get the back heads off
@donniehollins8756
@donniehollins8756 2 года назад
What lower intake gaskets did you use ?
@Traeb17
@Traeb17 3 года назад
How is it holding up?
@coledoesthings4618
@coledoesthings4618 3 года назад
As far as I know, pretty good! Ended up giving the car to a family that needed a second car and I’ve not heard any bad news yet.
@robbinbanks6790
@robbinbanks6790 2 года назад
Did you have to use sealant or teflon on the bolt treads for the lower intake manifold??
@Brian-fo8sh
@Brian-fo8sh Год назад
Use thread sealer on all bolts for the lower intake. Do not use Teflon tape.
@secretchipmunk7
@secretchipmunk7 9 месяцев назад
1400? Damn. My parts are about 200$. Got a personal mechanic doing it for 250 labor... For $640 I got upper and lower intake gaskets, plenum, thermostat, washer pump, EGR and the elbow, and fluids. Parts and labor. I see some intakes are a little more expensive but 1400 is a ripoff imo.
@edubb2491
@edubb2491 2 месяца назад
Who is this personal mechanic?..I spent the same 1400
@secretchipmunk7
@secretchipmunk7 2 месяца назад
@@edubb2491 a guy who does it out of his garage in Milwaukee and I don't know how much your parts were but for a 2005 grand prix the intake parts were about 100
@secretchipmunk7
@secretchipmunk7 2 месяца назад
And I misstated because it was 350 labor... 6 hours
@secretchipmunk7
@secretchipmunk7 2 месяца назад
I bought directly from AutoZone
@sandmhoder
@sandmhoder 3 года назад
i thought the series 3 came with aluminum gaskets ?
@coledoesthings4618
@coledoesthings4618 3 года назад
Yep, the lower intake gaskets are aluminum. They fail where they butt up to the gasket on the block, which is just rubber. You can see I put 3 coats of RTV in each of those corners to prevent that from leaking this time.
@sandmhoder
@sandmhoder 3 года назад
@@coledoesthings4618 oh ok thanks for reply good vid
@edubb2491
@edubb2491 2 месяца назад
Mee to..I got the series 2 engine
@gabriellencarnacion3310
@gabriellencarnacion3310 4 года назад
do you like this car?
@coledoesthings4618
@coledoesthings4618 4 года назад
Thanks for the question! I do, actually. I’ve had it for a few years, and outside of routine maintenance and a couple issues that are common at this mileage (250,000 miles), it’s been really reliable. They are cheap to purchase, and cheap to maintain. There is also a ton of information available online to help with maintenance.
@Simmygameplay
@Simmygameplay Год назад
​@coledoesthings4618 you still driving the car. I have mine for 3 yrs and loved it i had 2 other ones in the past i love them.
@enjoythesho1992
@enjoythesho1992 3 года назад
1400 bucks to replace the intake gasket wow that is insane that is what a full blown head gasket job cost including getting the heads machined they tried to rip you off
@coledoesthings4618
@coledoesthings4618 3 года назад
Yep, they also tried to just get me to swap the motor out for a used one. That would have been $1,800, so they really pushed that as the better alternative.
@A_Dilophosaurus
@A_Dilophosaurus 5 месяцев назад
that's what my shop quoted too so here I am trying to put back on an engine mount 😀
@edubb2491
@edubb2491 2 месяца назад
I jus paid 1400 for this on my 2000 buick regal I only got 80000 so I did it..but I still have some oil leak..but no colant anymore I live in WA st
@appalachianfishing8548
@appalachianfishing8548 3 года назад
What's the point of making the video if you don't actually show what your doing
@bobbyd4120
@bobbyd4120 4 года назад
What was used when cleaning?
@coledoesthings4618
@coledoesthings4618 4 года назад
Bob DeCastro I cleaned the entire intake with carb/choke cleaner and a rag. Same with the heads for the mounting surface, but I would recommend a razor blade at a very slight angle to get the old gasket pieces off. It was a very helpful trick on the timing cover gasket.
@seantaylor6784
@seantaylor6784 Год назад
if someone was selling a 2005 grand prix with this issue and no power steering with 200k miles but still drives for $800
@seantaylor6784
@seantaylor6784 Год назад
is that a good deal
@Simmygameplay
@Simmygameplay Год назад
For $800 i would jump on it.
@emileedad
@emileedad 10 дней назад
What hate too much talking cut out all the extra s***
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