3D Coat - Intro to Polygon Modelling 

Why are there different rooms? I don't get it. Why can't you just switch between them like different modes without needing to move your model to a "different room". I've found the navigation and interface to be incredibly frustrating and non intuitive so far.

@@OccultDemonCassette It can be, but i had the same issue with Zbrush and Blender when i started too. im not sure why there are "Rooms" except to help keep things more controlled i guess? im not sure why you cant model something and then move directly into sculpting on it, maybe you can. if i was you id email the company that makes 3DCoat and ask them why. who knows, maybe they'll either explain it, or change it for the better? they've said themselves they've seen a LOT more growth since Zbrush was bought out by Maxon, and they're always looking for feedback. so id give it a shot.

IF YOU DON'T understain (like me) mean that the interface is not too friendly and is no good.

@@Norman_Peterson Ive yet to see ONE 3D Program with an Interface that's easy to understand. ESPECIALLY when you first start using it. not even your precious, holy Blender.

Did you stick with it and get better at 3D coat yet? Its well worth learning even if you like belnder more. Its fantastic just for retopology, UV and Texture , but i find its sculpting is far better than Blender as well.

I find the curves system to be wanting as well. If they're going to develop a CAD system they're going to have to seriously improve their curves system.

Its great for sculpting! I'm a fan of voxels and the combination of surface and voxels is the way to go for me, everyone has there preferred way of working and modifies pipeline to way of working. Regarding the Modelling tools... I think I covered that in my other response. Thanks for the comments!

Hi ... I would definitely only start with simple objects, finding your workflow is more important in the early stages than making cool art. Once you understand how it works best for you... the rest will be a breeze and you can let your creativity flow. Yes it will save on Retop time in the future. Not sure about the memory side, its more of a developer question, but I've had no issues unless I get a corrupt mesh at some point along the way, but than happen in any app. The booleans are ok in 3DC ( its not like boxcutter in Blender which is quite solid ) ... but its ok, hit and miss. So don't think you're doing something wrong, its a bit funky, and you'll have to work around the 'funk' :). Stick to it and it will start pulling together in terms of the 'rooms' and you'll see how having everything in the same app benefits your pipeline. Hope that helps!

261 coat tuts i compiled....its a deep program many ways to work... ru-vid.com/group/PLTws_PUJ0rh7UilUzES43A-CwtnwHmZly

I think if you're used to working in a particular way with another app then it would feel strange for sure. I've used poly modellers and nurbs modellers before as well as sculpting apps. For me I find it a really interesting take on hybrid poly/sculpt modelling... but you can stick to your preferred 3D app and bring those assets in easily for painting, UV etc. They are tools at the end the day, pick the tools that you feel most comfortable with.

Glad it helped

I think so yes, for now at least. They are trying to improve things so in the future maybe things will change.

Thanks for the sub. I'm working through a basic Temple Project, after this I'll concentrate on more of the more interesting tools within the modelling room. Hopefully making a few more project based tutorials along the way and thanks for the comment!

Glad to hear that!

To be honest I never checked the scale etc when I did this tutorial. It was just a case of 'throw a model in there and see what you can do'. However the if you bring a model in from another app then it will respect the scale and position of that model. There is normally a dialogue box which asks you if want to preserve the dimensions from the origin app. Would have to check this to give you a solid answer.

set up scene scale in prefs...m mm etc...

The modelling room is very new to 3DC 2021 and has a few issues such as the boolean operation I showed, it has issues with Ngons. The fix would a manual one using one of the Quad Tools or Add/Split Tool to patch the issue. I did mention that software like Blender has a more powerful modelling toolset. I would recommend at this stage that specific ( detailed ) modelling work be done in those apps. There is alot of potential however with the Modelling Room when combined with sculpting, painting etc.

Yip... I'll try to cover the other methods in later tutorials... thanks.

The modelling and sculpting workflow is disjointed. Why the need to import a model from model room to sculpt room? In other appz you just switch to sculpt mode and sculpt the mesh itself. 3dcoat needs to add multi res sculpting that would work that way.

@@3dgraphicworkz463 I agree - it would be better with a subD workflow. You can use SubD method ( its not ZBrush ) but you can model a low poly object and increase its divisions. I'll go though it in the next video... the tutorial really just showed how you could take an object and drop it into the sculpt room. Completely destructive workflow I know :) I'll try and get the next video out soon. Thanks for your comments.

Here's a video already made showing the subD workflow... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pUWNIcmSlGM.html

@@IanThompson007 not much of a tutorial there. It's a time lapse. There's still no official tutorial how to import a mesh from maya, max, etc and then do some modelling>uvmapping>painting> going back to modelling room for tweaks then exporting the finished model with correct scale as it was in maya, max, etc.

Glad you enjoyed it

If you select the Smart Extrude there is an option to 'Snap Pivot' & 'Draw Pivot' these allow you to extrude, scale, rotate around the Pivot you create. Alternatively use the Select/Transform Tool with Auto selected for Face/Vert/Edges selection. Then as you hover over an edge, vert etc and it highlights you snap the Transform Pivot to that selection. You can also select polys etc and when the Transform gizmo appears, then hold down 'Shift' and move the gizmo to where you want the pivot transform to take place. It doesn't act exactly like Maya though. Hope that helps, sorry for the late reply!

Thanks Ken, glad you found it useful.

You're welcome

thanks

Hi, yes unfortunately the version you are using has been updated. The version in the video is 2021.

@@IanThompson007 Thank you for the fast reply. I wonder why they changed it so much, seems so much easier in your video!

@@travishill9839 his version is the latest version pretty much...

Thanks

Go to the modelling room > select 3D primitives > then select the 2d primitives from the pop out

You can choose between 3D and 2d primitives. Alternatively create 3D cube then delete the faces you don’t need to leave you with a square polygon.

After you commit the extrusion. Press Y,Z,X Key to constrain to the axis you need. Press G to freely move the extrusion in any direction.

@@IanThompson007 thank you!

True... it's an introduction to a new room inside 3D-Coat called the Modelling Room. So its looking at how to make an object ( any object ) in this room and a few tools to get you started. I'm not trying to show people how to model its more about the tools available. Hope that helps.