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3D printed 173cc 4 stroke engine! With cast aluminum parts! 

Project LMZ
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This is my new engine! i went with a 4 stroke becuse i want to boost it in the future, but everything seems to be going good so far, i am going to cast a aluminum piston soon and that video will be out in like 2 weeks hopfuly!
Casting sand link: a.co/d/1Lh0yNF
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@Gr_Greg
@Gr_Greg 3 месяца назад
that flying wheel is familiar
@among-us-99999
@among-us-99999 3 месяца назад
Thought this was a Camden Bowen video at first 😂 Great work, very exciting to see this kind of thing with being done with proper metal parts!
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
I ended up with a fantastic thumbnail! I definitely think there’s a place for the 3d printed parts, but definitely not on the critical parts. Like the camshaft and valve holder, they are under little stress and I don’t think I could grind a custom camshaft with my tooling, but on the crankshaft or head it would never hold up. Thank you for watching!!
@among-us-99999
@among-us-99999 3 месяца назад
@@ProjectLMZ definitely subscribing, your production quality is amazing for a channel with less than a thousand subs.
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
@@among-us-99999 thank you so much!! That means a lot to me!!
@gwheyduke
@gwheyduke 29 дней назад
@@ProjectLMZ Starting fluid is infamous for breaking con rods and damaging pistons. It has a relatively low detonation temperature compared to diesel fuel (kerosene) or even gasoline. Thats why they use it to start big diesel engines on very cold mornings. Even then if too much is used it can pre-ignite and combust when the piston is coming up before TDC. If the engine is already warm, or in the case of an engine with no cooling for the head -hot - pre ignition will almost definitely occur and cause all manner of calamities, broken con rods, stripped timing gears, and smashed pistons.
@gwheyduke
@gwheyduke Месяц назад
You could use your 3D printed crank case as a pattern to pour an aluminum one. Just ram the halves up in the sand. I use "pistonium" - old car pistons from a local repair shop to melt for my engine parts. You could just machine those valves and the wrist pin from solid bar stock steel.
@mondude9754
@mondude9754 3 месяца назад
This is amazing ! you should just gradually keep improving the parts to cast aluminum until there’s no plastic left and the engine can run for an extended period of time
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
That’s what I’m thinking, but the 3d printed parts are really great for prototyping! Thank you for watching!!
@mondude9754
@mondude9754 3 месяца назад
@@ProjectLMZ probably especially great for prototyping the cam. That would be so difficult to machine
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
@@mondude9754 yes, I don’t think I could machine a cam with my tools, and I actually think a 3d printed cam would work in the long run to. On my engine it’s not under a lot of load. Thank you for watching!
@dividingrain1907
@dividingrain1907 3 месяца назад
You should also use a bigger flywheel since thats quite a small one for that size of an engine. And you might wanna valve lapp the valves for a better seal
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
I do agree, it needs a bigger flywheel, but what I can do is bolt a steel plate to the holes I use for mounting the new flywheel. For the valves I tried to lap them but the lapping compound that I used left a terrible finish, so what I did was just sand down the valves and the valve seats with 220 grit sandpaper and it seems to make a very good seal. Thank you for watching!
@vilius1532
@vilius1532 3 месяца назад
new sub. Finally found an interesting channel. Keep going 😁!
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
Thank you, I appreciate it very much!!!
@jonivakeva5515
@jonivakeva5515 3 месяца назад
While ago i saw a video where someone 3d printed a piston for a full sized 2stroke quad and it actually ran for a few minutes while riding it hard. It did not even crack, just melted and lost compression. So i think if you change your settings/materials, you could get decent piston life for engine that you have.
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
I actually think I have a fix for that to, I made a steel cover for the piston that bolts on the top, and it holds up good! It’s not about how hot it is in the engine, it’s about how quickly the heat is transferred to the piston, so that steel plate should help a lot! Have you seen my latest short? You should go check it out, my welds on the crankshaft broke and it shredded the crank case, but it actually would have ran if not for my welds breaking! Thank you for watching!!!
@alex4alexn
@alex4alexn 3 месяца назад
new sub, cant wait for the next run with the new castings
@CamdenBowen
@CamdenBowen 3 месяца назад
Cool dude!
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
Thank you! I have a surprise coming in my next video, if you check out my RU-vid short, you’ll get a sneak peek onto what’s to come! Thank you for watching!
@__kein.bild__9047
@__kein.bild__9047 3 месяца назад
Could you make more videos about the engine please i like it!
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
Yes I will! My end goal is to have a semi reliable engine, then I will try a v twin!
@Biokemist-o3k
@Biokemist-o3k 3 месяца назад
New subscriber here!! this is the coolest thing I have ever seen. Well made video and so9mething I have thought about doing for a long time....keep up the great work.
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
Thank you very much!! That means a lot to me!! Thank you for watching!!
@Biokemist-o3k
@Biokemist-o3k 3 месяца назад
@@ProjectLMZ Absolutely!! I am in Pennsylvania . I am getting things ready to start a channel building a 1928 Morgan/MG special turbocharged Hillclimb racer..
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
@@Biokemist-o3k that sounds amazing! Let me know when you get it up and I will have to watch the videos!!
@meromere8339
@meromere8339 3 месяца назад
you could use copper sheet to make a head gasket it would be reuseble and i think i should handle the heat better then th cork, i becuse i think when you get it running it would just burn it away and more updates please i love this project since i want to do it myself but i dont have the tool and money to do it
@TankR
@TankR 3 месяца назад
Hell yes you need a metal piston..... IDK why there are so many people trying to make plastic combustion chamber elements.....but if it could have been made out of cheap plastic the auto manufacturers would have done it already. Look at the kinds of plastics we used to have, stuff that was practically rock after it polymerized, and never has plastic been used in combustion chamber parts....theres a reason, yall.... And that starting fluid(?) is eating your plastic parts....and so will gasoline. The valve issue is another gotcha that trips up people playing with engines, they have to fully unload to seat. Thats what checking the clearance with feeler gauges is about in proper engines, making sure there is a complete unloading of valve actuation while staying close enough that valve timing is preserved.....also.....when those plastic timing gears go the valves and piston head are going to have a really bad day......remember to install proper bearings on the conrod where it meets the crank. There is a reason why cars use sleeve oil film bearings. There is a butt ton of sudden shock and pressure right when it needs to rotate when the spark hits. its gotta be soooooooth. Pay attention to ball (or better needle roller) bearing loading direction and ratings. It seemed to want to go (before the piston tried to go hang out with the crank). Need to get some proper fuel flow going on (smarter every day has a few good videos on carburetors, might be a good DIY addition. or just bleed a propane/butane feed into it and throttle with flow rate). At least use a pipe on the intake so you have a bit more of whatever you're using to start it with for it to run on. And finally be weary of people starting advice with "i feel".....mechanisms, like all other aspects of scientific endeavours, are not affected by feelings. Soft mounting an engine would not have stopped the head from blowing through. Its a hot, aggressive, violent environment inside an engine. Design for it. Oh, and stick the drill on the valves, pull em against the seal face and spin em. Mate the surfaces.
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
I really like all of your ideas, I’ve been testing this engine some more with some metal upgrades, I cut out a metal circle that bolts on top of the piston so that the plastic is not exposed to the combustion directly, it is just a 3 mm thick piece of sheet metal, and it works wonderfully, after testing the engine with it, it ran for a short amount of time before the welds on my crankshaft broke and the inertia from the flywheel made the broken parts turn into a blender and shred the crank case. I actually did lap the valves, but for some reason, the lapping compound I used left a 60 grit finish roughly, so I hit the valves and the seats with some 220 grit sandpaper, and even though the valves aren’t technically lapped, there’s literally no leaking somehow. Thank you for watching!!!
@jamest.5001
@jamest.5001 3 месяца назад
Atleast it fired, well it was smoking anyway! If I was you I'd get a piston for a 125 or 150cc gy6 scooter. It's nearly the same size slightly smaller, big bore is available. Capable of near 200cc and they are cheap. Unbelievably cheap. From Amazon. Flywheels and rods and wrist pins go through crazy forces. A 1 oz weight on a crank will weigh tons spinning at relative low rpm. I would make an aluminum flywheel, and get the aluminum from a scrap yard, from car rims. Or similar parts that was cast, stock car rims are casts. A big hammer and hack saw will make bits of the rim in no time. This is an aluminum alloy, designed to cast well. Also engine parts such as heads but get lawnmower heads , a recycler usually has a big box of kk lawnmower engines and similar aluminum parts. And brake rotors are great source of iron. And a leaf blower, small air compressor, with used engine oil can melt it. If it's too slow, make a HHO generator, to supply additional o2 to the flame, careful it can be hard on your insulation. Use a 5gal. Bucket. A couple 25' strips of stainless foil or even conductive carbon fiber , a microwave transformer with the high voltage coil removed, and replaced with 14-18 gauge wire 4-6 strands roughly 12-24 turns /wraps around the core. And a single phase rectifier, and a SSD( looks like a SSR, solid state relay) but has a potentiometer with it from Amazon, 500ohm pot I think. Connect the power cord in series with the SSD it needs to be mounted to a heat sink. Using high temp grease or thermal paste between, a 60volt capacitor optional for the rectifier, connect the wires you added to the rectifier, the DC out of the rectifier connect the capacitor (optional) the rectifier need to be about 50 amps, also a volt and amp meter, also optional, connected after the rectifier, 100 amp shunt style DC amp meter ,connect one wire, 8gauge (8 gauge can also be used in the transformer, it's not easy to get it in though) with enough turns to get about 6-12v. Lay out a sheet of the stainless foil or sheet metal, with a piece of fiberglass window screen. Or similar plastic it needs to be about 1" larger longer and taller. Lay the other sheet on top it need to be about 2-3" shorter than the bucket place another plastic or fiberglass insulator on both sides of the metal (all sides) then roll it up to fit in the bucket. Then fit a hose like used on a vacuum cleaner or washing machine drain to the lid. And run it to the air inlet of the blower. A variable speed electric is nice a gas leaf blower also works. It's not going to need full throttle.. use a thermometer in the bucket use stainless bolts through the lid to connect wires to the plates.and hot glue around the wire connections, with heat shrink tubing. Fill the bucket with distilled water, with a bit of lye stump remover. Just a table spoon or two to start with use the knob on the SSD starting low watching the volt and amp meter slowly crank it up around 2-5 volt it should be pulling some current back it off a bit a plexiglass panel and LED glued in the lid would be great for a visual of how things are going. best to add as little if anything to the water. Just enough lye to get it to work possibly use a fuse or breaker Incase the insulators break down and the plates short out.the used oil nozzle can be made from small pipe fittings 1/4" not, and a couple pieces of 1/2" maybe 3/4 or 1" and a ball or gate valve, but 3D printed parts can make it crazy simple and cheap. With a 1.5-2.25 exhaust pipe or conduit to connect the venturi/injector nozzle,and the blower to the furnace I want to build one from a 55 gal drum or possibly a 200 gallon oil barrel 5' tall 3' wide it may be 300-400 gallon, it's much larger than a 55 gal drum. Use the normal insulation. Then use 1/8" stainless rods to make hoops to retain the insulation. It should be able to hold a 20-40 gallon bucket , using a light gantry crane to lift the furnace from its base. It being three piece. A base with the heating bits in it. The middle. And the top. Similar to Kelly Coffield's furnace. Only alot larger. Using 2 3 or 4" blower ducts with the injection nozzles about 6" outside of the furnace possibly having 4 nozzles. The pipes one coming from the floor of the Base, the next coming from the wall about 45°-60° around the base,.. the base being about 8" -12" tall, with about 2-4" of insulation in the base. The roughly 48" center section guided by a 1.5" bar 8' long. Allowing the sections to move aside like a hinge if needed. Post add another 1.5" guide with a easy to remove connection to allow the sections to move aside such as the lid to add material. It having a 8" hole with 5.5" restriction may not be large enough to add material. A platform and rails on one side. Use a propane or map gas torch used for ignition, use a hollow 1/2" steel tube a few inches in front of the nozzle if heated bright red from the inside (outside from the air pipe) to start combustion and possibly add heat to the oil supply tuning just before the nozzle. A 1/4" copper line. About 1 minute +/- 45, seconds or so it's at a angle and the flame exits the tube into. The furnace so the fuel will ignite easier.. a 2 gal 1/4 HP air compressor feeding the injector about 60 psi at low volume, possibly use a cheap paint sprayer for the secondary nozzle. It should work great. The nozzle in the main being a small pipe plug with a 0.6mm hole or possibly use a carburetor jet in the plug. With a tiny. Steel needle nearly closing the jet. Forming a cone of fuel the nozzle being on the end of a 1/4" pipe with a tee on the opposite end with another plug the oil entering the side of the tee, with a valve the plug having a 1/4-20 thread and the bolt having the bit of tig rod welded in a hole drill in it the tip bring ground to a point like a tungsten electrode in a tig torch., it pencil. The bolt being about 3" long with a nut and washer to seal the threads with a o-ring around the bolt. And sealing when fitting inside the washer as the nut it snugged down it can be adjusted slightly. Only about .020" from just a squirt to all but shut off. The jet could be drilled out to about 1/32"-1/64" if the HHO poo produced enough o2 and hydrogen, it could be used. Along but is extremely hot. It can melt ceramics if allowed to. The addition of some o2 and hydrogen to used. Oil or propane will easily melt iron, only ba suitable crucible is required. Maybe a first project could be pouring a iron crucible then ceramic coat it to protect it from the heat! A 15 gallon 1/2" wall thickness would be great. Possibly build a 3rd nozzle to fit in the top to put the flame inside the crucible! Use a 2" flex hose from the blower. And a 1/4" coil hose for oil and air!! 🎉have a great day
@nicohaider3918
@nicohaider3918 3 месяца назад
Nice Video
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
Thank you!
@tilen3266
@tilen3266 3 месяца назад
what is your ignition timing? also fuel delivery is gonna be hell id get like a 13mm carb or maybe even one of those chainsaw ones. heavier flywheel might also help with the engine running.
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
Ignition timing is roughly 3° before top dead center, since the engine is 173 cc I’ll need like a 19 or 20 mm carburetor. For the flywheel I’m going to just add some more weights onto it. Thank you for watching!
@tilen3266
@tilen3266 3 месяца назад
@@ProjectLMZ true. For a normal 170cc engine a 19mm carb would be optimal but: with a smaller (13 - 15) carb the velocity of air at low rpm is much better giving a engine much better throttle response and overall itll run better. And since i dont think you will be revving to 8k you really dont need the flow of a 19mm. Ive dont testing with carb sizes and i did confirm its true. The smaller the carb the better throttle response amd low end but of course it restricts the top end. Bigger is vise versa.
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
@@tilen3266 that sounds like it would be better then, because I will be lucky if this thing revs to 4000 RPMs. My intake port diameter is 19 mm, so that’s why I was figuring a 19 mm carb, but I could try like a 15mm carb!
@tilen3266
@tilen3266 3 месяца назад
@@ProjectLMZ yes id say that would be better. The port might be 19mm but the 90 degree turn and the valve add up. So yeah youd want a smaller carb. Otherwise the engine looks really good. A more stable flywheel is needed tho
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
I was looking at a nibbi PE17 carburetor, they didn’t have a 15, has good reviews and looks nice, and I am trying to find weight for the flywheel right now, the flywheel that is currently on there is solid steel, so it is fairly heavy, but your right, it needs to be heavier. I am going to bolt some more steel plates onto it, as the adapter I have made works really good, so I might as well just add weight to it.
@mointernboike
@mointernboike 3 месяца назад
is this inspired by camden bowen?
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
Yes it is, but it is my design. The only thing I copied is the ignition module, everything else is my design. Thank you for watching!!!
@yourlocalrussiankid9162
@yourlocalrussiankid9162 3 месяца назад
why dont you add a carburetor to the intake?
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
It is still on its way, I just wanted to start testing Thank you for watching!!
@yourlocalrussiankid9162
@yourlocalrussiankid9162 3 месяца назад
@@ProjectLMZ oh alright then, i subscribed too, so i can see the finished product. sick biuld man
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
@@yourlocalrussiankid9162 thank you very much!!!
@yourlocalrussiankid9162
@yourlocalrussiankid9162 3 месяца назад
@@ProjectLMZ yessir, i also love engines alot
@TheBoringCreatr
@TheBoringCreatr 3 месяца назад
i am not sure if he has fuel supply. If he keeps a steady flow of fuel then he could have it run continuesly depending on spark timing and how long his parts are gonna hold. Not bad tho
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
I am waiting on a carburetor, it is supposed to be here tomorrow, but since I didn’t have it, I was just testing by spraying starter fluid into the intake port. Thank you for watching!!
@wyattbrown9506
@wyattbrown9506 3 месяца назад
You're stressing me out
@qldarkabysslp
@qldarkabysslp 3 месяца назад
nice man, good recc algo
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
Thank you!
@thebestmaidens
@thebestmaidens 3 месяца назад
So we're going to ignore that this design is essentially the same at Camden Bowens 3D printed engine?
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
Nothing about this design is even remotely close, I took inspiration from his, but it was all my design, the crank case that I have on here I designed before Camden’s new four stroke crank case, the head is my design, the bore is much larger and I made it before his new video, the valve train is a completely new design, the only thing that I copied is the ignition module. Also the all thread rods I have running through the crank case to hold it together I have had since the beginning of my engine, before Camdens engine got them, if you look through my RU-vid channel videos on my engine, you’ll see what I mean. I do not mean this in a bad way, and I very much appreciate you watching my videos, but I just wanted to make things clear that this is not just a copied version of his.
@lassikinnunen
@lassikinnunen 3 месяца назад
They're both 4stroke, have 3d printed parts and thats about the similarities. It's not like he should go pushrod or flathead or something just to be different.
@BVN-TEXAS
@BVN-TEXAS 3 месяца назад
This one is so much better and not the same.
@lokemansson
@lokemansson 3 месяца назад
Well its defenetly not the same
@throwawaypt2throwawaypt2-xp8nx
@throwawaypt2throwawaypt2-xp8nx 3 месяца назад
lets gooo, hell has frozen over :)
@lessel1103
@lessel1103 3 месяца назад
i have no idea if this would change anything, but i feel like not clamping down the engine and giving it space to move like a generator would be good for it, so the connecting points dont stress the 3d prints more than necessary.
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
That is a good idea, I want to make sure it’s not going anywhere, but I could make rubber feet on the bottom to give it some room to wiggle! I Have a flexible filament so I could make a rubber pad and then still screw it down onto that rubber pad. Thanks for the advice, and thank you for watching!!
@lessel1103
@lessel1103 3 месяца назад
@@ProjectLMZ 3d printed rubber pads are a great idea, but it will probably be difficult to hold down the engine without it being bolted down, but you are the one designing so you know the mounting points better than anyone. good lock man
@deletedpeanut5208
@deletedpeanut5208 3 месяца назад
Im interested in how you made the head with all the different places to drill, how did it work out for you?
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
Well, I started by 3-D modeling one in Tinkercad, But it was a little bit of a pain to find the right places so none of the holes overlap, but in the end what I ended up doing 3/4 inch holes for the intake and exhaust ports, a 1/2 inch hole that I threaded for the spark plug, and some 1/4 inch holes for the bolts on all four corners. I ended up having to buy a spark plug with 1 inch long thread portion, so that I could avoid hitting the intake port when drilling it. There’s actually a decent amount of room with everything done, but it definitely helped to 3-D model before hand to get a rough idea where everything needs to go. Thank you for watching!!!
@deletedpeanut5208
@deletedpeanut5208 3 месяца назад
​@@ProjectLMZ Thanks for replying, I am trying to make a 4 stroke myself and am having trouble deciding whether to get a head cnc'd or make it myself for cheaper. I think I'm going to make it myself first and see how it goes
@ProjectLMZ
@ProjectLMZ 3 месяца назад
@@deletedpeanut5208 i think making it yourself would be awesome! The hardest part is sanding all of the faces flat, as cast aluminum likes to dip down in the center. I used a 9 in angle grinder to flatten all of the faces, and for everything it took probably 1-2 hours, including the holes and everything. Best of luck to you!!
@deletedpeanut5208
@deletedpeanut5208 3 месяца назад
​@@ProjectLMZ I will be making the head out of some 55x25mm aluminium bar, so it is already half done for me
@NoahEngelking
@NoahEngelking 3 месяца назад
love the air purifyer in the background with than incredle looking keyboard
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