From the movie, The Saucer Fleet and other research I have created a walk thru of the C57D saucer. * Please note this is a temp (2nd shot) kind of thing. I will replace it with a more complete video after review. Thank You
My most favorite movie of all time. I first saw it as a very impressionable 8 yr. old when it first came out. wouldn't this be a kick ass movie in Real 3D?!
I loved this Movie when I first saw it as a kid in 1960 in the Base theater on Mare Island Navy Base. It would have been an interesting episode where the USS Enterprise under Kirk meets the ship and crew near a Planet and moon associated with the parallel Earth Planet seen in Miri.
Thank you for sharing this video, sir! It is as beautiful of a rendering of perhaps my all-time favorite Science Fiction Ship as I have EVER seen. You mention in your publishers notes that this is only a temporary version, but even if you don't complete your planned final version, this one will keep me VERY happy.
+Jeff Anderson Afraid I've gotten side tracts with other 50's era ships. Right now the Terra V, then maybe War of the worlds Tripods, plus a workable meteor space ship. I will be getting back to C57D someday. This is what I do these days. And if you ask my wife that seems to be all I do.
Scifisteve1954 If by "War of the Worlds Tripod," you're refering to the deadly beauty from the 1953 George Pal movie (starring Gene Barry and the lovely Ann Robinson), I'm already drooling... :)
+Jeff Anderson Well I was thinking of the original as written in 1897, Classics Illustrated (piston, ball and sockets), George Pal floating Manta Rays and my own.
Scifisteve1954 YOUR OWN?!?!? Now, I'm REALLY excited! (grin) In all seriousness, I visited your site soon after (accidentally?) discovering your work on RU-vid and fell in love with your beautiful work. Your talent AND passion are clearly evident and I believe that your vision of the original H.G. Wells design will quickly become a classic as well.
You are welcome. I like dissecting and analysing these space ships of the 1950s and 60s. Forbidden Planet is one of my favourites. I just visited your website and it looks great.
Nicely done graphics! The only technical wrinkle is that there would need to be enough hyper-light speed to sub-light speed chambers for the crew and survivors.
I'd love to see a modern version, updated tech, but still keeping the flavor of the original, guys like Scifisteve should B commissioned to build working film set versions if they ever did a remake.
Have ever considered doing a program on the War of the Worlds War machines from the 1950s movie? I realize they were not "spaceships" in the technical sense, but your intelligent guesses about the power sources and internal designs are really cool. I've watched ALL your videos. My favorite so far, is The Earth vs. The Flying saucer designs.
Fantastic work, well researched and realised. The consoles and equipment remind me of the original Star Trek, which of course was inspired by The Forbidden Planet The story of the Bellerophon that is referenced in the movie would make an interesting prequel; I wrote a few paragraphs in an attempt to write that story. I wonder what the Bellerophon would look like..?
When in engineering I show the Main Batteries and Jeep disassembled. From time slice 4:47 to 4:53 the storage bays open and you'll see the bays lower then return, I saw these bays lowering all the way to the ground allowing for removal and then assembly. No ROCKS. They followed orders. Ran right thru the neutron beams. They died. Very sad.
You could have counted the graves on the field that Morbius buried in order to compute the number of people who were on the Bellerophon, the Greek mythology slayer of monsters. Of course, Cdr. Adams would have known in advance, but it was not stated in the script. BTW it is now Feb. 2019 and this video was published in Mar. 2012 and I realized this. Nice job, even for back in 2012.
Good question,but between time slice 3:15 and 4:10, I show the layers of the ship, give dimensions and descriptions of each layer. It all fits. It took real work, no fudging.
Every time I hear "klystron" in the movie, I have to chuckle. A klystron is a microwave vacuum tube that's been around since WWII. Used in radar sets, not sci-fi at all. I used to have a surplus one, but I guess since I wasn't a "quantum mechanic", I couldn't make it work. :-)
1 The ship diameter 262.9 feet. 2. Max speed is 9c not 16, and 6c as a cruising speed. They did not say they came from earth, they said it took a year to get there after they received orders. Obviously they where elsewhere and ordered to devert course. Not uncommon in the military. 3. They do not need added bunks for bringing back people. The bunks can be shared in shifts, it's called hot bunks and been done in the military.
@@sgbh8874 I don't know why people have have such a hard time understanding this...Its a simple process involving plasma passing through the warp coils disinfrangulating electrons from the Higgs Field causing muons to transect the wave function. It all right there in the owner's manual...
Thank you for your well-thought-out details of the spaceship in the, perhaps (when considering the time), single best-quality science fiction movie of all time (to date) - Forbidden Planet. The "hyper-drive" stated in this movie would involve "higher-dimensional" spacetime which would be extra spacial dimensions (these extra spacial dimensions, like our major three spacial dimensions i.e. very large in size/expanse standard spacial dimensions, would not be the tiny (seven additional) "compactified" extra spacial dimensions referred to in string and M theory). Perhaps the idea being that faster than light (FTL) space travel could be accomplished by artificially creating a wormhole (kept open by empolying (yet to be demonstrated) "negative energy exotic matter" which expands spacetime by inducing "positive" spacial and spacetime curvature, with the Forbidden Planet spaceship then traveling into this wormhole (the inside of this wormhole has greater than three spacial dimensions - the already-mentioned "higher dimensional" space and spacetime. The spaceship ultimately exits this wormhole finding itself the 17 (you said I believe, 17 ) lightyears away with the ship experiencing 18 months of time elapsing while it was "traveling" in the higher dimensional space/spacetime region of the wormhole. Of interest, FYI: An alternative to (this) higher dimensional FTL space travel could be "Alcubierre Space Warp Drive" as described by the spacetime manipulation of the Alcubierre metric math operations of Miguel Alcubierre's space warp drive equation. Miguel Alcubierre was, in the mid-1990's, a Mexican UK physics graduate student who discovered a (yet to be disproved) application of Einstein's General Relativity (GR) gravity equation whereby spacetime behind the ship is (positive curvature) expanded while the spacetime in front of the ship is compressed (the negative spacetime curvature we see in a standard GR powerful gravitational field). However, while this is hapening, the ship is contained within a normal undistorted (spacetime) "bubble" and this buble (experiencing no movement) "rides" between the distorted (in back and in front of the ship) spacetime like a surfer on top of a wave allowing the ship to travel between remote points "A" and "B" in deep space the equivalent of up to 10 times the speed of light! As a matter of fact, NASA, in recent years, has hired a GR theoretical physicist to "play" with applications of the Alcubierre equation. Getting back to the movie Forbidden Plant, on a side note, I find it of interest that this movie's screenwriter was Cyril Hune; who was also (in my opinion) the best of the many writers for the (1958-1963) TV show "The Rifelman" especially noting (in this episode) the actor Royal Dano's brilliantly-worded soliloquy as he played an injured Confederate veteran. Thank you. John I. Campo Tampa, FL
Well that was a great deal of info. For C57D I went with Miguel Alcubierre and Sunny White's work at Skunk Works on Basic "Star Trek" warp fields. I have just finished an interdimensional craft. I'll be adding the audio and then publishing.
I look forward to your interdimensional craft research and hope that I will find it on this site (I do not know where else you would provide this information). Thank you for your great research into (what I find) this very interesting topic. Glad you are up on Alcubierre Warp Drive and Dr. White's work and hope you will elaborate on these two topics (I would like to learn more about these two topics from your upcomming information). Thank you. John I. Campo Tampa, FL
Another project you might want to do: The Krell power source/matter projector! It has that subway for the maintenance crews, all those levels and the furnace viewer (Gorgon Mirror). Might be fun to animate all that crackling, too, maybe even make an Id Monster appear somewhere in it. One of my screenplay ideas is a return to Forbidden Planet. Oh, you thought Dr. Morbius blew it up? Hahaha! Just another trick of matter projection, my lad! What has he been up to all these decades? Or, maybe he had a son, too?
In actual fact I have done the walkway to the 1st Lab, the lab itself. The ventilator shaft, the walk just before they went to view the power unit. The problem is some of the are glass matt paintings. When I go to re-do them as 3D objects, the scene is not quite the same. I like them and have them in my screen saver, but I not sure they are ready for prime time.
Good idea. I did it and did not like it. Shelved and have not gone back. The problem was the source of power. I could think of nothing new and fit into the flat bottom saucer.
Great work, Steve. Do you take requests? If you do I'd like to see your interpretation of the possible interiors to Earth vs the Flying Saucers, The Day the Earth Stood Still (the original of course--not that crap that came out few years ago), War of the Worlds (martian war machine), Space Ark from When World's Collide and last maybe some real retro the space craft from either the 30's Buck Rogers or Flash Gordon. Think you can do 'em all? ;-)
at 1:27 : That is a really small power source (fusion, anti-matter,or what ever), considering it has to supply enough energy to propel the ship and DEFY THE LAWS OF PHYSICS!. Doing all that while somehow managing to not cook the crew with intense radiation!
This is beautifully done! One question is that I would like to know your spin on the DC units. They have been of great fascination to me since I first saw the movie at a drive-in movie in '56 with my father and brother. I'm thinking that they would hold together and preserve humans as well as any organic matter during the hard-to-imagine torque of slowing down from "hyper-space" speed.
First Thanks Next, your right on track. I HAVE completed Earth vs the Flying saucer just last week. Buck Rogers' Rocket is also complete. I have a completed the saucer from the 1951 "The Thing". I am almost complete on the "Lost in Space" saucer. Why are they not on RU-vid? My computer is so outdated that about a year ago it stopped communicating with RU-vid. I retired 4 years ago and moved to the boonies. The uploads take a full 24 hours and would always die at the end. Im getting a new computer. When? Im working on it. Get'er Done!
Is Scifisteve1954 still around? All this stuff is years old, and I'd love to see his take on the 1953 George Pal War of the Worlds Martian fighting craft.
@Scifisteve1954 are you going to do the updates on the graphics? I'd like to see how you would handle them now. (This isn't a complaint about current graphics!) TY.
What is conflicting in the movie is that "Robbie, the Robot" is beyond all of Earth's scientific knowledge, even though Morbius said the building him was "child's play" yet the Spaceship seemed much more complex. In other words, Earth people in the future could build ships that can go FTL, but they could build robots like Robbie.
You forget he had access to brain boost machine which he took little at the time. Building Robbie is entirely impossible if you don’t have the know how to build such complex machine.
Are you sure this isn't the 52 b ? I see no gravity plating or bosons helm, both clearly present in the 52 d (but not on the hemell scale reproduction). A common mistake .
A couple things bug my wife and I: #1 the size of the tracktor / jeep vehicle: HOW did that fit into the C57D? I know two ramps are stairs and the third ramp is a conveyer belt. BUT THE SIZE. Also, similarly, those big blasters: Colt-Vickers Quad Fission blaster cannons: THEY"RE huge. Finally, when Commander J.J. Adams yelled to his hot shot squad "Set up a cross fire from those rocks." There were NO ROCKS inside the force field fence: They blew it when the men ran right thru the fence w/o d
Since Commander Adams asks the Bosun to "Assemble the tractor," I'm going to guess when disassembled, the parts are much smaller and easier to store. The big blasers..I'm also going to guess were from the ship's exterior and they just moved them to a better firing location....again all guesswork, but I hope that helps a little.
They are built in pieces and easy to put together, modular. This shows when you are building a ship, not all should be built permanently and easy access for repairs/replacement.
Ile make one that will fly without the quad copter prop holes -guts of a quad but air leaves though ring opening around bottom rim -intake around top dome.
@Scifisteve1954: "It lacks something." Not much, I think, beyond further general development of the interiors, if you wished. The only thing I noticed, otherwise very amazed at the look of it, is the over-all color palette matched the original _Star Trek_ series very well. I wondered if it would look much better, especially the Bridge compartment, if it had a color palette that more matched how the C57D's Bridge looked in the film. Here's some screenshots of the Bridge from the film (scroll down a bit to see the stills): markbourne.blogspot.com/2010/12/forbidden-planet-1956-such-stuff-as.html That's all I noticed lacking. The rest is amazing work! It's astonishingly astounding hehehehehe
How about some compare and contrast shots from the film? I think that would be very interesting. In fact, I kind of expected that when I watched. No matter what Steve, Bravo!
so the ship was like the Tardis bigger on the inside than the outside...I really think they might have made the ship too small on the outside to reflect all the space they would need on the inside according to the movie...the ship should have been twice the size
Absolutely NOT. The ship I drew interior fits into the ship as I drew it. The dimensions of the ship are from "The Saucer Fleet". Which I believe are correct to and verified by other sources.
Mack Mate . Com Imagine you are riding in a car traveling at 5,000 mph. Suddenly slowing down to 55 mph with no seatbelt, what would happen to you? You become paste. Inertia can be friend or foe dependind on how you travel.
Well done! I esp. liked Robby welcoming us into the saucer. I was so happy when I saw this film as a kid, and they'd repaired and rescued Robby and he became part of the crew. As to your rendition, it's wonderful. I do have a question, though. As I recall when the Monster from the Id climbs the main ladder into the saucer, it immediately arrives into a berthing area, in which there's a winch or crane to pull stuff in & drop it out. Your model has this in the Bridge area which is about 3 decks above that entrance. Another thought is that cylinder which you show housing the main fusion (fuser?). There seems to be no reason to retract or extend a solid cylinder with this important and heavy power source. This would complicate connections to the rest of the ship, too. Seems like it could house an elevator, but I'm not sure that's consistent with the movie. Just some thoughts. Your renderings are beautiful and well thought out, sir!
