3x3 Speedsolving Methods Tier List 

Hey thanks for watching :) The argument "roux has M-flicks, which not everybody is good at" is not a valid argument. You could say that CFOP has M-flicks during EPLL (U-perms, H-perm, Z-perm), which not everybody is good at. The solution to that is to simply learn M-flicks. You could say: CFOP has F2L, which not everybody is good at. It doesn't mean anything because cubers are constantly learning new things. Blockbuilding is unergonomic in every method that uses it, so that cancels out as a factor when comparing blockbuilding methods. I see your point with 15 moves for a 2x2x3 block (which solves 7 pieces, excluding centers), but Roux F2B solves 10 pieces excluding centers in about the same amount of moves. That being said, there are definitely some improvements for petrus, like Athefre's APB algset. It's an alright method, I use it sometimes when I see an easy 2x2x2 block. Maybe not garbage, but still pretty low in my opinion.

Big 4 are now big 2 I guess

petrus avg 50moves roux 45 moves bruh

​@@devanshkandwal2008 big 3 axualy... but petrus is still far up there as being the one with the least moves possible

Axualy?

Isnt that just cfop with more steps?

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@@LazyBeverage Yes, I'm working on the TDR variation.

@@RowanFortier metha should be in godly god tier and also lmcf

oooh, nice! Petrus-CFOP hybrid, I like it!

@@kerkare Petrus is amazing.

kinda similar to building an xcross

I'm confused what's the difference between leor and petrus

This video was made in 2020 APB was made Jan-Dec of 2021 It did not exist.

Wat? it has got 78 algs, that's an abuse!

Lol

As you can tell, my list is completely without flaws or bias of any kind 😎

It’s good for methods to have an intuitive start, because you can optimally plan it

​@@KaelHitchcock I'm in your discord lmao

Not everyone likes ZZ

@@JamesonJamestackSwick I didn't say everyone did...?

so basically ZZ but 10 seconds slower

@@ThePersonWhoAsked69420 considering there are 10 second Petrus averages: that’s a huge compliment to ZZ

Bro’s stuck in 2005

Objectively optimal

Wait, water roux wasn’t on this list 👁👄👁

@@RowanFortier Oops I meant LMCF

@@kerkare good only if you're good at recognizing each zbll.

Green screen 😂

Thanks :)) It’s Mehta, though it’s an Indian word so the H is kind of pronounced twice like mehuhtah

i like zz too.

Probably bc ZBLS is a trash set

@@Luna77543 hellllllll nah

@@spinnyboijesus it is pretty bad, especially if you’re doing it slot neutral

So you mean lat layer algs or full cfop is 120

Thanks for hearting. I definitely didn't expect it to happen in less than 15 minutes

based

Nah, it's medium, imagine having 78 algs

not mine

Nice do you mean like solve the corners first, and then the edges?

In the beginning of the video I mentioned that the video was about how good the methods were theoretically. And there are a lot of methods that are theoretically better than CFOP, even though the fastest speedsolvers currently do use CFOP

If you do eocross its not that bad and there are good variants

ZBLL is a requirement for ZB

It’s gonna take you a 100 years to learn all the algs.

@@thecubingprofessor4503 yeah probably

@@lukascubes9132 if you did learn everything that would be legendary.

@@thecubingprofessor4503 i know just over 100 ZBLLs then took like a 2 month break. Hopefully by tomorrow I can start learning again.

The pictures are kind of ambiguous lol

That’s impossible… unless you know how to do last layer upside down.

@@victhecuber5956 it's not impossible.

Nice vid

​@@mateogrzegorczyk6978wat

​@@mateogrzegorczyk6978Wat

Mehta-TDR is much faster than regular Mehta, also there is Mehta-OS

@@voidrxreal I did Mehta-os

@@RowanFortier I think that the original version of Mehta is Mehta-6CP. Mehta-OS is different because there are more alg sets and you might not always go down the 6CP path, you might decide to do DCAL or some other path, depending on the solve

@@voidrxreal that’s correct :)

@@RowanFortier also why did you quit Mehta? i saw your post on the discord server.

Imagine having 78 algs💀

@@AndreuAlphapibeTheMemer it's not even hard to memorize the algs. You use them every single solve

​@@love2o9NO! MY AGRUMENT! NOOOOOOO!!!!!1!1!1!1!

@@AndreuAlphapibeTheMemer imagine resorting to mocking instead of explaining why the argument doesn't work

​@@love2o9It was a joke, dude. I have even expected you to reply "Lol"

Roux ( in my opinion )

Damn. There's some nice puzzle on www.thecubicle.com :)

I was about to comment the same thing twice lol

Because of its abuse of algs

@@AndreuAlphapibeTheMemer bro that was 1 year ago, I don't even do cubes anymore lol.

​@@speedcubergdLel, same

@@AndreuAlphapibeTheMemer :P