4 Methods To Run Radiant Heat PEX Pipe 

For me, the ideas in ru-vid.comUgkxAfqpMLyFn37qcqUl0FAzqkkycQeXqrhP Plans were a starting point for building different sheds . Ryan gives ideas that allow an individual to draw nicest conclusions into the design and building of his or her own shed.

I've had radiant, in floor heat for 22 years with a concrete over pour method and seven zones in eastern Canada. The floors are finished with ceramic tile and parquet flooring and I have recently converted from oil fired boiler to an air to water heat pump. To say I love it is an understatement and it works best if you set your thermostats and leave them. When your feet are warm; you are warm.

When I lived in Germany in the 80s, I had in-floor heat (at the time I believed they were metal pipes) but the bathroom was where this really was fantastic. The bathroom was huge by German standards, the tub and shower area was separate from the sink and toilet area, but in the same room, with half walls. The floor and walls of the tub and shower area were piped with this radiant heat. This made the cast iron tub warm all winter long. It also meant that my then-girlfriend could stay in the tub forever because it took a lot longer for the water to cool off.

In the Nordic countries, Uponor is a Finnish company, I myself live in Sweden, almost all new homes are built with radiant heating or underfloor heating as we call it. most often the pipes are cast into the concrete slab. the cost is not higher than for conventional heating systems - heating via wall-mounted radiators. Even when renovating old houses, radiant heating is often the first choice. My wife and I installed Uponor's underfloor heating in our 100 year old house - in all eight rooms. Yes we did it ourselves. So easy. An advantage is the low flow temperatures. When the outdoor temperature is 15 degrees Fahrenheit, a flow temperature of 100 Fahrenheit is sufficient. Perfect for heat pump. The disadvantage is of course that the system is not suitable for cooling during the hot days of the year. But, you can not get everything.

I installed my own radiant floor system in 2003 in Western North Carolina. I have since sold the home and plan to build again within the next year. The source of heat came from an outdoor wood fired boiler in conjunction with a high efficiency natural gas water heater. First off... radiant floor heat is pure luxury. I have lived with forced air systems in the past, just as most of us have, but radiant floor heat has a comfort to it that you cannot obtain with a forced air system. With that said, my next home will include both systems. The reason being is that radiant floor heat is obviously for heating and not for cooling, so a forced air system will provide the cooling aspect during the warmer months. I had no forced air system in my first build because I was located at 3,000 feet elevation, so summers were generally mild and rarely required cooling. What I look forward to in my next home is having both systems, the comfort of radiant floor heat and the cooling ability of a forced air system along with the added ability for the forced air system to provide the heating in the fall when the temps begin to drop and you only need a little heat in the evening and at the beginning of spring when the days begin to warm again. With radiant floor heat using the concrete slab as its heat exchanger it is not as quick to respond as a forced air system would be. In the spring and fall when you need better heat/no-heat control, radiant floor heat takes awhile to heat up and cool down, sometimes by as much as several hours. So, in my opinion, radiant floor heat is indeed a luxury item and expense, but worth it in the dead of winter when you need a consistent comfortable heat source.

I built my own in floor system in my house (110 years old) here in New Jersey. I read Modern Hydronic Heating by John Siegenthaler, without this book it would have been impossible to get this done. I'm not a plumber, I'm just a crafty home owner. I watched every video I could find on the subject as well as read most of John's book. Empowered with all this knowledge I decided I would get all the bang for the buck I paid for my Tankless Hot Water Heater.

I’ve gone to Uponor PexA and expansion fittings-super easy, consistent and repeatable. The freeze protection is also great with any PEX product. Also no clunky baseboards that fall apart over time.

Worked in a smallish shop/warehouse with radiant heat. It was amazing!! I had to pull in pickups and trailers to load and the drivers loved it because it quickly warmed the metal deck so the cold didn't hurt your hands, the other forced air heated building the trailer would be loaded before it started to not be frozen. The outside temps were -10F for a month or so.

I remodeled a home that had radiant floor heat installed by the builder. It was red Pex B attached with regular j-hook to each side of the joist flange where it meets the subfloor of the main floor. Basement below. Much of the tubing was sagging into the joist cavity. According to the homeowner the system works great and comfortably heats the upstairs evenly with the furnace rarely running and only in the coldest months of the year. Zone 6.

Great video! What I also like about radiant compared to a forced-air system is that it does not dry out the air and affect humidity.

I'm not a builder and have no intention of ever being one but I have to admit I enjoy your videos and have learned a lot from them. They allow me to better understand the options and make better decisions about future home upgrades. Keep up the great work!

We have used the Climate Panel (Quik Trac) behind mirrors in the bathrooms. Works great keeping the steam off the mirror.

Thanks for another informative video. I think leaving out a product like WarmBoard-- especially in new construction, was a miss. It's a sub-floor and a "host" for the PEX in one shot. Another thing I think could have added more value was discussing mixed systems. For example, how (or when) to integrate radiant with a more traditional HVAC system so the homeowner can also have A/C, air filtering, and/or dehumidification in summer.

Here in the north radiant allows one to use low temperature water, making air2water heat pumps a viable option. There are only a few US manufacturers now, but a lot of the big brands offer these over seas. I’d love to hear some coverage on that topic from MN.

Great to hear of putting these in the wall or ceiling from an installer. They talked about it in the Hydronic Heating book, and we had electric radiant heat in the ceiling of a condo. There's also other panels that are routed out with foil in them already, previously at about a buck a square foot. They can bring the added height down to 3/4", and maybe less if switching from a carpet and pad to something else.

I experienced this type of heating at Prayer Mountain in South Korea. It was absolutely brilliant in minus 20 degrees. It made a very rough winter fabulous.

I want to build an ICF ranch style in North Dakota with hydronic in floor heat. When those 80 MPH blizzards hit at -40F can't go wrong with the thermal mass and sealed envelope of ICF. Walking on a nice warm floor is one heck of a luxury. In February.

I'd say Warm Board is another product worth a look for this, a lot like quick track but way better Just did a big renovation on a place and used that. It was easy to install because every panel was mapped out with blank panels for under cabinets etc. The entire top is aluminum, unless you have to do a custom route in a few spots which is normal but it's just no aluminum under the tubing so not a big deal. The entire system was very reasonably priced too. Hahaa, I'm not paid to say that but I would recommend that system, customer service is great too. Take care

i love the little bit of science "more energy via water" as a selling point, but also the comfort is the big advantage of radiant. It's so unfortunate the true benefits of radiant didn't take hold earlier - the idea and the sceince has been around for a long time. I think we could have saved an unimaginable amount of energy (i.e $ in heating bills) and a lot more people would have been more comfortable in their homes. I remember as a kid, circa 1974, sitting in front of the heat vent, window curtains draped over me to capture all the heat, just waiting (and maybe praying a little), for the at furnace to kick in and blast me with glorious warmth just to beat that morning chill! As an adult in '94, I bought and renovated a 1952 built Wisconsin home that was originally built with a "radiant slab ceiling" - 1.5" concrete/plaster mix in wire mesh w/1/2" copper tubing imbedded. Even though it was top-down (heat rises, so won't that make it ineffective?), that radiant slab was so-o-o-so satisfyingly even and comfortable in the heating months. Was economically efficient, too, heating bills were the lowest I've ever experienced. Had lived in forced air, hydronic and electric baseboard, and old-school cast-iron radiator - all of these in the northern great lakes region, 60" frost line and all, so real cold in the deep winter months. The radiant was palpably more comfortable in all conditions - no comparison. I imagine it was a substantial increase in construction cost in 1952 over conventional systems at that time, and I would guess adoption of a "new" superior technology was stymied by misinformation, status quo thinking, fear of the "new and untested", and probably some commercial interests that didn't want to see their customers changing the items on the standard purchase order. But, God -once you felt that even and consistent heat, and knew your children would never need to cloak yourself in window drapes and pray for the thermostat to kick in, you'd think it would have gained a little more traction. Back in '94 I was working in the residential construction trades in carpentry, and radiant of any kind was still only popping up occasionally as a novelty.

Awesome Video Matt I would love to see more like these specifically about Radiant Heating and Cooling! Keep up the excellent work

I see a lot of questions about infloor radiant and geothermal. I've left comments on other comments. But here is what I have built. I had a contractor put up the outside of my shop/house. 2400sqft of shop and storage downstairs. 1000sqft of living space upstairs. I did everything inside. Almost all by myself. Including wiring, plumbing, insulation, drywall, (Except mud) installing geothermal unit and pumps. Passed all inspections first time. I have geothermal, solar panels 10,080 watts and r29 walls r65 ceilings. 6 zones infloor heat 3 zones inslab in the lower shop. 2400sqft. I installed the insulation 2" outside the footings/ frost walls 2" inside with 45°cut on the top. So you won't see the insulation between the footings and the slab. 2" under the slab. I made the manifolds and installed the pex. Before slab was poured. Had contractor install warmboard subfloor for upstairs. 3 zones upstairs 1000sqft. I ran all the pexalpex. Snapped into the warmboard subfloor. 6 loops to stainless manifold provided by warmboard. I have a pump to each zone. Instead of actuators. I used chilled water fan coils for cooling. Chilled water provided by the geothermal heat pump. Chilled water fan coils condense the humidity out of the air. Just like a split system AC unit. So you don't have to worry about condensation. Like you would with radiant cooling floors, walls, ceiling. I don't think cold feet are ever desirable. They have flush mounted fan coils. If you don't like the looks of split systems. I keep all 3400sqft as warm or as cool as I want all the time. Zero bills. I live in Wisconsin. Because I have living space over my shop. Radiant is the only way to go. Because the living space has to be 100 percent sealed off from fumes from the shop. Running for a little over 2 years now. Love having warm floors even in the walk in shower. I forgot to say I also built manifolds. And installed the insulation and pex before having the 8000sqft of concrete poured for my driveway. I'm using radiant solar to heat my driveway. Will be installing 12 4×10 solar hot water panels this summer. Stated 170,000 btus. Me being a forklift driver. Have accidentally designed and self built a Net Zero shop/house.

Just built our new house with in concrete floor radient system. Used a Cross Manifold system (no solenoid valve) and every room has its own zone. Very comfortable and quiet. Currently using a microboiler with buffer tank, but one day we'll add a ground source heat pump and get both heating and cooling and only use the boiler as a backup.

In Minnesota, south of Eric. Warmboard is very comfortable. Remember you need R20 under the floor and good air sealing for radiant to work correctly! Micro-zoning also helps comfort.

Just installed last week, full infloor with hydro foam from nudura, uponor manifolds and 1/2 lines. Ontario Canada.

I would love to see a complete video on setting up a full system. Sizing boiler, parts needed, etc. I love the idea of radiant heat

I like the idea of using this as essentially wainscoting on a remodel. It would also be interesting to see this used in combination with a geothermal heating/cooling set-up.

Matt and Eric, Wow! Radiant heating in the wainscoting, I never thought of that! Since I'm concerted about allergies, I guess my ERV could handle the air filtering to remove dust??? Man, I love the quiet aspects. If you do need AC, then I guess that is when it becomes expensive compared to mini-splits??? Cheers, Eric

Thank you for interviewing an expert that has in field knowledge.

@MattRisinger You touched on all the basic questions I wanted to ask, even regarding ceiling and walls for retrofit... I have a very small house in Cen.TX. electricity and gas are expensive too get there. I believe this style of heating, and maybe even cooling would be beneficial as I renovate the property. Thanks for your RU-vid show!

Matt, I want to thank you very much for this weeks video post. I have always been a fan of this type of heating. But my home was too far into the build to change the way it is heated. However when you mentioned using the side walls that opened a whole new way to use the hot water heating. My first job was with an electrical contractor. At that time electric heat in the ceiling was being used. I also remember if a drywall contractor wasn't careful it could be a real mess tearing it all out and starting over. Over the years that type of heating faded away. I like the in floor method better. Thank you

Really like This. Especially the notes about ceiling and wall implementation heating and cooling.

Love my radiant remodel with the alluminum plates under the floor. I have it setup for 6 zones in our house. 3 bedrooms 2 bathrooms and the common area of the house. It is only a year old but have been out proforming the new HE forced air furnace my son has across the street is a slightly smaller house.

I have radiant heat downstairs in the slab and it's fantastic and it's so simple to set up. I have oil and electric(solar) to heat the water. When you are doing it, I'd recommend putting and electrical element (I have 3kw) in the loop just incase the primary oil, gas or heat pump heater packs up.

I live in north Texas have radiant heat in my bathroom floor. Omg I Love waking in there, in just socks on a cold winter day. It changes my mood instantly. I Wish my living room had it too.

I've been in radiant spaces, they're wonderfully comfortable. But I get the willies about running water tubes all through my the house. I hoped that the video would address leaks, damage, failure modes, repairs etc. I mean, everything fails at some point either catastrophically or in an insidious silent fashion. Would love to hear about that side of radiant.

Here in Finland we don't do any connection inside wall, ceiling or floor all connections is visible and if something happen to leak you see it. Also all pipes are run into sleeve so if pipe somehow leaks it leaks into sleeve and runs out other end which is also visible. And usually those manifolds are placed room where is drain so IF something leak it will leak into drain so very small possibility to get water damage to your house because way of install.

Would love to see if you know anyone who did this system with the cooling added into it as well. Would be quite nice to see videos on the cooling side of it not just heating.

I have 9' ceilings, so i used the top 1' of the interior walls for the pipe. I run the pipe in loops through the wall so one 250' loop serves two rooms. Also, i use pex-al-pex because it does not move/expand very much with the hot water.

There was this set of stairs, on This Old House, that needed heating, but they couldn't install radiant in the floor of them, and forced air couldn't work for them. As a result, they used the wall mount method, there, for the radiant heating in the stair well. It was Kevin O'Connor's first Project on TOH, I think.

Retrofit scenario: main floor is hardwood (actual hardwood, not engineered, not laminate) and ripping that out is *not* an option, but the basement has a drop ceiling so the underside of the main floor is easily accessible. Something like joist track (8:13) would be the obvious choice, but I have heard that hardwood floors can be easily damaged if they get too hot from below. How hot does the working fluid need to be for effective heating? How hot is too hot for hardwood, or is what I heard a myth?

Hi Matt, My family is one of the inventors of the modern Tackersystems like the one you showed in the video and the Tackergun you had on your Desk, next time at the AHR maybe we can meet when I am in the US again (did not see you in Vegas Unfortunatly) greetings from Switzerland

Would just like to preface that I'm a consumer! I've really only experienced in-floor radiant heat at my job which is an assisted living home. I hate it 🤷‍♀️ the residents don't particularly seem to enjoy it either. That being said I think it's a fairly old system that needs a lot of tweaking. The several thermostats (zones) are never in sync (some are too hot and others freezing) and my feet were always sweating while I often had to wear a sweater for my upper body. I work on the floor running around on 12 hour shifts as well as in the office mostly sitting for 8 hours. Located in south dakota so we get pretty cold winters. The worst time is switching in the spring and fall, can never find a comfortable temperature. I will say in-building humidity is much better with the radiant heat versus forced air. Not to say that it can't get dry but it's generally alot more comfortable where humidity is concerned. I would be interested for my basement master bathroom though. Just not impressed with it being used as the only heating system in a commercial 40 bed living facility, but again that may be due to age of the system and trying to please several different people because there is generally 2-3 "bedrooms" in one zone and our residents do range in age from 50's to 80's +

Can you explain more about the water system as in are there chemicals needed to keep the water mold free? Do you add-in water time to time due to the water loss because of the heat? Does the water move in the system or stays in place? Thanks!

5:49 That's just regular sill foam you're talking about around the walls. They just use tape or spray adhesive to hold it, then trim it after the lightweight concrete cures. Though I've seen some people leave it in place because it adds a little more thermal/insect barrier. They only trim it if it gets in the way of miter joints with the baseboard.

I've never heard of this before, it just blows my mind that there's always a better way to do things. People can be really clever. I'm definitely keeping this one in mind.

after 32yrs of placing different heating solutions in homes built and remodeled the system with the most balanced characteristics has been hydronic heat run thru radiators. in floor is great but adds costs in materials and labor that usually pushes it out of reach. lifetime costs and service challenges are lower with room radiators and the overall system is simpler and requires less space. warm floors are amazing but in america they are a long way from affordable.

Great video, Matt! How do you think the Uponor flooring system compares to the Warm Board retrofit system that you looked at in a previous video in one of Steve's builds? Any idea about cost comparison between the two? I'm remodeling a small cabin that only has a wood burner and one electric baseboard heater, I think one of those systems would be great for a retrofit!

I still see homes in new England with radiant ceilings lol what the heck were they thinking in the 60’s?? I love it in flooring… not in love when it’s in a slab unless it’s a shop/garage

In thoughts in how to remodel my current domicile I never thought of radiant heat being possible... but since I do have a crawl space I will insulate up down there. I see now that I can install radiant from the bottom side. I will look into that. Thanks 👍

Love the wall install brilliant

I bought my home and paved new floors and tiles but realize now I don’t have good heating in this house turned adu. I learned about radiant floors and now not sure how to do it when everything is done. Thx for explaining I will look into it.

Can capret and pad still be used with radiant floor heat?

I need to have Eric stop out at my place just west of Minneapolis - I am researching joist track to supplement heat my main floor to keep my feet warm (unfinished basement ceiling). Last week on his Instagram he was installing an Infrared garage heater after watching that I would like to replace my forced air garage heater with Infrared (preliminary sign off on that from my wife after ai told her it is more efficient… and we can likely sell our current heater). Now watching this that plastic track might be good for our basement to supplement heat. Curious how that system works with 1) no insulation under the slab and 2) moisture coming from the slab. Plus I think his dog Ringo knows I am watching and sounds like he is giving me a Beagle shout out in this video.

I would love to see a complete ductless system using radiant floor heating and options for whole house cooling that is ductless.

Matt, Houston here, can you do a video about radiant cooling. Where is the best place for it, floor walls or ceiling?

Wow! This is useful information! Thank you!

17:00 Don't you want some air particle filtration, say for allergy mitigation? And how do whole house ventilation systems affect the radiant heat? Thanks for the video.

Nice heating/cooling system! Combine it with ground source heat pump and it's even better :)

If I built a new house I would be doing infloor heat period!!! Best heat ever. Both my dads houses have infloor heat and we put a coil in the wood burning fireplace that will heat the whole house via burning wood in the fireplace. With gas prices sky rocketing this is the middle finger you can give to your utility provider. Couple that with solar panels and your off grid. Only downside is you need to still cool your house so you end up buying two systems. Infloor for heating and ductwork for cooling. Most of time this setup is 3 times the cost of a traditional scorched air setup.

It’s the best, I live in Alberta and I am working on a horizontal 30 ton glycol loops to air exchange and slab cooling system, it hasn’t been done before but if it works I will only be using a 120volt circulation pump to cool my home and shop, the biggest reason for attempting this my attached shop is 40x75 if it works it will be amazing to have a cool shop, the ground temp is around 8-12 C, I am only planning for cooling as the electrical required to use a typical heat pump is expensive, and I want to sell my solar to grid to pay for propane and property tax, currently my home makes income

This was a great video. Very, very informative and timely for me, as im looking to replace an existing baseboard/boiler system with radiant. I'd like to see how geothermal can be used with a radiant system, and replace my antique boiler. I'm in UP of Michigan, so efficient heat is essential.

The second process looks interesting to me. The second floor in my house uses hydronic wall radiators and 180 degree water. By putting it in the floor then I'll need a lot less high heat water and use a different style boiler when I replace it. Warm board or what he used in step 2 seems like the least amount of added weight to the floor. Lightweight gypsum pour might be a good process as well but an entire floor in mud could be much heavier. I don't see the link to the fellow's youtube channel. Do you have that available? Thanks Matt. Oh and also trying to figure options to heat my 32x48 shop since the existing concrete doesn't have tubing installed. No heat or insulation in Idaho makes it's too cold to work in the shop. Closed cell spray foam is on my mind. Other than hammering out the existing concrete floor to add foam and then tubes, I'm not sure what would be an efficient heat source. I have natural gas to the property but it doesn't run close to the shop. Evacuated solar tubes, big storage tank and heat ex-changer are the desired plan but probably more money than I need to throw at it. Solar panels and heating water could be an option as well. Not a lot of wood in the area plus I've done wood stoves before and I'd like to have something automatic.

So, are there any resources for planning air movement/exchange for an all radiant house? I assume you still need ducting and/or cold air return for the home.

Hi, I have a couple of friends who have used a water glycol mix at their cottage in Southern QC (close to Ottawa) in case the power cuts out (which it often does). It's not a 50/50 ratio as glycol is not a great conductor of heat.

The Quick Track (spelling?) is intriguing as a retrofit for our main bathroom since there is access from below (in my office/personal room). Can you put insulation/sound deadener between the floor joists and over (under?) the Quick Track to minimize the foot noise from above?

I'd love to see how you'd approach sealing and insulating an OLD (1870) farmhouse, like mine.

I'm an installer in romania, built my own house with radiant heating in the basement and 1st floor and the rest is with radiators. I regret not have it all with radiant it's so much better.

It would be nice if you did a video in steam heat, not just the old bulky radiators, but include modern components.

Can you use air in the pipes instead of water? I know the fluid would hold heat longer but air would move faster through the system and any leak wouldn't be an issue. If someone accidentally put a nail through the pipeline the system would still work fine and cause zero damages.

Thank you for sharing.

How about the schluter system? Was kind of surprised to not see Matt use that in the new build bathroom after putting in that steam shower too.

Awesome idea

Can you put radiant heat under Snap and lock vynil floooring that has pad attached that is very common now?

Is Rifeng making the manifolds for Uponor now? That manifold looks just like the Rifeng that has been sold for years.

I designed and constructed by myself a home in Alaska in 2006 where I put half inch PEX in a 4 inch thick concrete monolithic slab to heat my house with a 40 gallon hot water heater that worked brilliantly.

Whats the glue they’re caulking in over the pex on the quick track option? I’m installing this heating system in my van floor and would like to know what I can use to embed the tube in my routed grooves. Ideally something I can sand smooth. Thanks.

Hello... I am trying to decide on the right heating device for my space, which has wood floors and a crawl space with 20 inches of clearance. I don't have gas available, but I need to use an electric system. The heating area is 24 x 50, and I've identified eight zones. I would like to know the mathematical calculations for determining the best unit to use, whether it's a hot water tank or a tankless system. If I go with a hot water tank, I'd like to know the appropriate gallon capacity. If I choose a tankless system, I need to determine the minimum gallons per minute (GPM). TIA

I have to do some research but are there radiant heating systems that use a heat pump to heat water like a water heater does? That seems like that would be the most efficient as opposed to a gas boiler

All of it was great but the best part was the ending ..."OOOOOOOooon the build show"!

What about radiant cooling with dehumidification?

Have that same exact wirsbo manual in my truck

Radiant coupled with Geothermal. If you run a farm with plenty of manure producers or compost, you can run a radiant system through your heaps for heat.

What about cost? Especially for cooling as well? That means ducting or multiple mini-splits.

Its cold 6 months a year here. As a native texan id love to have heated flooring!!!!! 🔥💯

Could you gain heat passing the return lines through a southern exposure wall in like a sun room type space where all the glass in that room is shaded in the summer but winter low sun would hammer this "warm wall. Thus decreaseing the demand on the heating appliance because the incoming water is maintaining a highier Input temperature.

Idea!? Could you not set up your radiant in floor heating as your hot water tank? Basically removing the negative of a tankless water heater?

perfect timing

Very little mention of requirements for insulation under the pipe here (apart from method 3). My understanding is that putting pipe directly on the floor slab will result in far too much of the heat going down to heat the soil rather than up to heat the room. It can still work but is very inefficient. Obviously if your slab already has decent insulation under it then that's great as you have lots of thermal mass on the warm side. But most retrofit slabs are just on the dirt.

Matt if you are ever around a geothermal system running radiant heat I would love any info you’re willing to share. Building next year and I’m most interested in water-to-water heat pump for the radiant

I’d be curious to hear about electric grid mats as oppose to water tubing. I have a 1-story on slab foundation and don’t think I have space to install water tube heating on the existing floors.

Radiant heating is amazing and i wont live in a house without it any more...

What is the cost to install and operate compared to forced air? I've never been in a house that had radiant heating so I'm a little scared to try it on my new house

I just saw an article in in floor for garage workshop..he stated it takes a long time to get concrete hot enough mass and it must be left on to be usable ie gets too cold.. and too long to reheat..interesting..

Can you give me the name of the company that makes the black ( peel and stick) speed track for the pex? Thanks!

I’m from Canada I put radiant heat in my house thirty years ago can’t imagine going any other way

You forgot to mention Warmboard!

Do I need a manifold for 1 zone continuous flow. I know I need a manifold for the combi portion going to the house water.

Thanks for the video, but I noticed that you compared it only with forced air systems. In the area where I live, most of the homes have convectors witch are essentially the same concept but instead of putting it into the floor you just have a box in each room in the wall, so I would like you to do a comparison of the pros & cons is it just as good, but not as nice? Or is there any other differences?

Side note, you are really far from that mic. Sm7b likes about 3-4 inches. Thanks for the videos, always great.

Sir you are O R E G O N I A N !