4 months with a BMW R1300 GS - In Depth Lessons

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@jacko64366 5 месяцев назад

Great review Andy. Getting a bit tired of the magazines who can't afford not to suck up to Herr BMW. Truly objective honest and balanced. This is why we watch you mate. Keep it up and thank you.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Wow - thank you!

@jpg6482 5 месяцев назад

Sticking with my 1250 GSA - this new one just doesn’t give me that GS vibe! If I wanted a fast adventure bike would buy a multi

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Me too…

@simulacrae 5 месяцев назад

That's why you buy the Trophy version and not those executive flash versions with fancy colors and indicators that will break on the first day on the trail.

@davidclay1678 5 месяцев назад

These videos on the new 1300gs are the best out there, you have covered pretty much everything about living with the bike that is invaluable to a prospective purchaser. Everyone already expected it to be up on power etc but you have highlighted lots of other important things to which a buyer tends to come across after ownership. Massive well done Andy on setting the benchmark with your review, really enjoyed it mate 100% 👍👍👍

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

I appreciate that David - thank you!

@911aircooled5 5 месяцев назад

Brilliant comprehensive review, well done. I have learnt a lot from your 1300 uploads, cheers. Enough so that I am not buying one. 1250 will be my last BMW.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Glad to help!

@willfriar5163 5 месяцев назад

Me too

@wimdriessens864 Месяц назад

Ive got the R1200 GS LC from 2013. If there is still a GS I would swap it for (although that’s not my plan any time soon: I still love the bike to bits), it would be a 2nd hand 1250 GS. In my opinion BMW totally lost it with their design, both for their motorbikes as well as their cars. Perhaps our generation is not that interesting to them anymore.

@911aircooled5 Месяц назад

@@wimdriessens864 Exactly, and agree that their design in cars are not much better. I've loved riding for 49 odd years (start at 7), and now have both the 1200 and 1250 in the garage. The 1200 is almost perfect, so happy with it. My take on the 1250 after 1 months riding is that it is slightly more refined, smoother and the gearbox is much better. TFT is ok, not that much better than the old. The new Nav6 is much better, than 5. Also I prefer the vario cases of this generation, new ones are heavy and weird shape. Spoke the the BMW saleman and he too mentioned that they went a bit too far with the 1300, so the used 1250's sell well. Happy Safe Riding, cheers.

@morganzola100 5 месяцев назад

Respect for the honesty of your review. Very well done ✅ I test rode and ordered a GS 1300 last November..it didn't turn up on March 1st as had been promised. The dealer couldn't give me any clarity/information about when the bike or the withheld luggage would become available, and with all the niggles surfacing on social media, with some being rather significant, I decided to cancel the order. I've booked several tours for this year, and luggage is required. Also the rear lights issue, and having to go into the menu to adjust heated grips, screen etc, were beginning to look a bit like a safety issue..I'd rather be watching out for the ever increasing hazards we have to negotiate than fiddling with switches...I went straight out and bought a Multistrada V4 Rally ...and I'm extremely pleased with it...could be quite some time before I go looking for another GS 😏. BMW have taken their eye off the ball.. big time !

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Well, we shall see how sales go, certainly the bike has less appeal to me than the previous models.

@oploupe 5 месяцев назад

Glad you picked up on the rear lights issue. Number of cars have that problem too. That alone makes it a "no" for me.

@jamesf8864 5 месяцев назад

Lots of cars get around this by switching off the offending light (be it a tail light/headlight/DRL) while the indicator is flashing. The problem goes away all of a sudden. The light is then switched back on once the indicator is cancelled. I'm really surprised that a manufacturer like BMW hasn't embodied a simple and safe solution like this. I fully agree that the indicators are lost on this bike, which could be lethal.

@douglasreid699 5 месяцев назад

teapotone has a video on a possible better set up for the lights from a company in England somewhere and he applied it to his new GS, makes the lights work far better, could be a solution for someone that really wants the bike but put off by the lights current set up.

@nicks2908 5 месяцев назад

It's just not an issue, at the rear the braking is the important thing, Indicating less so. The number of people who install tail tidys and such tiny little lights the amount of comments on this is ridiculous

@jamesf8864 5 месяцев назад

@@nicks2908 Imagine if we all had different opinions on things...

@nicks2908 5 месяцев назад

@@jamesf8864indeed. However, signal Then manoeuvre isn't an opinion.

@raycollington4310 5 месяцев назад

That premature exhaust corrosion alone would grate with me. Great information here TMF. Thank you

@Fractal379 23 дня назад

Excellent, as always, very useful! Also, many thanks for speaking at a good pace. It's nice not having to speed up an in-depth bike vid, for a change. Cheers!

@TheMissendenFlyer 22 дня назад

You're very welcome!

@GrIrTi 5 месяцев назад

Honest and trusted review. The looks, lack of presence and cost were the key reasons why I have an R1250 GSA Triple Black arriving this week.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Ooh nice - enjoy your new bike!

@ChristopherMcreynolds-o6x 5 месяцев назад

Absolutely love your honest review. Thanks very much.👍👍👍👍👍

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

My pleasure!

@christaylor491 5 месяцев назад

Totally agree on the road presence and masculinity of the previous GS’s Andy, think I’ll be sticking to my 1200 for a while and when I am ready to change it’ll probably be for a 1250….save myself a bag of cash as well. Great video as always 👍

@78Outlaw 5 месяцев назад

Congrats on what will probably be your last BMW review Andy 😂.. it’s good to see folks talking about these bikes from an ownership pov, from a GS owner, away from the sunshine launches 🌞

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Thank you - I try and keep my reviews as “real” as possible without being influenced by fancy hotels, Sunshine and restaurants…

@Themotograndpa 5 месяцев назад

Great in-depth review of the GS Andy a lot of money for a full spec bike £23,000 when you can get a lot of bikes with the same spec for £5000 to to £7000 less. All bikes are good nowadays as long as they put a smile on your face 😀

@booshallmighty 5 месяцев назад

I'm sure you could put something over the rada cover like a flag sticker or something. Maybe some aftermarket options will come up with some ideas and I'm sure you could fit a rear light

@WDM54 5 месяцев назад

Great job on reviewing the new 1300 GS!

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching!

@Hooner77 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the detailed review of the new GS. I was at my local BMW dealer today and was able to sit down on two with the adaptive height option. One had a normal seat and the other had a low seat. I am 5' 8" with a 30" inseam. I put both feet flat to the ground on the one with the low seat. On the normal seat I am on the balls of my feet. Even with adaptive height both bikes were still hard to get off the side stand. By comparison I sat on a 2024 1250 GS Adventure with low suspension. I was able to get both feet flat and getting off the side stand was much easier. I think if I bought a 1300 GS I would be fabricating a longer side stand.

@andymushlarky7819 5 месяцев назад

As usual excellent and balanced content, I notice that the Yellow peril is still gathering dust in your man den! as we've discussed previously the roads of North Yorkshire with a retired Yorkshire man aboard would be the way forward. Keep up the good work.

@MrFlowerfred 5 месяцев назад

I have that exact same bike but with the black enduro forged wheels as I hate cleaning bikes. I'm about 1500 miles in now and the only two things I really dislike about it is the road noise from the front end and the Connected Ride Navigator. A change from the Metzlers it came with might change the noise, and I sold the CRN and stuck a Garmin Zumo XT2 on, which is beyond fantastic. There are a few minor niggles with the electronics to sort out but I trust future updates will sort that. Its a great machine and even more fun to ride than my beloved 1250GSA. Which I'll never sell. Thanks for all the video's, they're great.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching and congratulations on the new bike. I’m glad you’re enjoying it.

@theR0ck 5 месяцев назад

Love my tramuntana green n gold, got one 1300gs and loving it. No complaints here😂

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

It is a lovely bike to ride isn’t it Terry, enjoy!

@snip3d 5 месяцев назад

These "minor" points are exactly what drives people insane. Small problem, big impact (sometimes depends on the individual). Great video.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Thank you, and yes I agree if there’s enough small problems they can mount up into a big one!

@snip3d 5 месяцев назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer i bought a corolla in 2019 and sold it because i got sick of having to press 7 buttons each time i started it to get my previous preferences... its just bonkers how little things add up and can ruin good experiences. Love your work.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@travisboam9612 5 месяцев назад

Excellent follow up with your time on the Green Machine 👍 My Tramuntana arrived one week ago today so I am still in the honeymoon stage. It handles like my baby GS, rather than the 1250 👍👍Very nimble indeed 😁 I just hope it does well in cross winds. I'm only 5ft 6in with a 29" inseam so the adaptive ride height and low comfort seat was a must. It is not so bad pulling it off the sidestand. My biggest niggle so far is the shifter is too low, even in the highest setting. Anyone with longer legs their toes are pointed more downward. I also come from an off road background riding tall mx bikes. I have Touratech engine crash guards coming and just received the Hepco & Becker handlebar guards to protect those pretty turn indicators. I am leaning toward the SW Motech soft panniers with the quick release frame brackets. I am looking forward to a great summer!

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Yes with the auto lowering option the side stand isn’t an issue - it’s if you don’t have that option the bike is a haul. Good move avoiding the BMW panniers….enjoy your new machine, an incredible ride!

@marcosagosti6175 5 месяцев назад

Very useful video. Thanks! As a longtime BMW rider I'm not sold on this one. It's not one thing, but the whole package does not excite me. Probably, it's the increased complexity, the lack of pillion comfort coupled with the high price. Spare me the fancy 719 Tramontina details and avoid the exaust from rusting out after only 4 months. Shameful for a 24,000£ bike. Or perhaps it's just the natural evolution of things where BMW moved from being focused on a great ride to become a techky "Star Trek Enterprise" type of machine.

@BubbaSatori 5 месяцев назад

Thanks! Triple Black is the one for me. Good luck with the shoulder!

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@leeblackburn15 5 месяцев назад

Good points TMF. Here in New Zealand the 1300 starts at $46000 and that's before the dreaded 'Extras'. When you consider that my Honda NT1100 DCT cost $23500 with a topbox that puts BMW's pricing into perspective. Personally I still think that the 1250 looks better and the 1250 RS would still be my first choice as I prefer the looks.

@zidisrider 5 месяцев назад

Great video,both positive and negatives has been mentioned. I think is bit expensive ( because you will need many extras ). Personally I can't stand 2 cylinders anymore but I truly love the previous generation and I'm sure you do too. That front light... Jesus christ...

@williamclarke2020 4 месяца назад

Greetings Flyer! The amount of money you spend on a GS and for the features you get, the Yamaha Tracer 9 GT+ is an all-around winner.

@TheMissendenFlyer 4 месяца назад

Yes I tend to agree.

@lifesjourneyat50 5 месяцев назад

Well done...solid review and very objective...thanks!!

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching!

@johngittins6244 5 месяцев назад

Great in depth review of the 1300GS. Now all I see is the radar plastic at the front, bit like a black Beluga ! Thanks TMF

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Sorry about that John!

@garyhope0103 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the usual, very in depth video of the GS1300. Still personally convinced that owners of a BMW would stick with their bikes, or even upgrade to a 1250, mainly due to the pricing. The only 'option' I would have on any bike would be the radar/adaptive cruise control. Especially for long motorway days.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Yes the adaptive cruise control is an excellent feature on long runs, thanks for watching!

@NJWMOTO 5 месяцев назад

Mr Flyer, The iphone 15 pro max fits in the cubby on my 1300 GS no problem

@MrFlowerfred 5 месяцев назад

I thought that was odd as well. My Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra fits even with the case. It's a great feature.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Not with my phone case on it doesn’t! Wish I’d shown that now….

@JustTheHighlights 5 месяцев назад

9:23 I thought the Akra exhaust slip on at £925 sounded like a rip-off but then you said the luggage was over £1500 😰 Best to shop elsewhere for some of those extras. But a cost you can't really avoid is the paint scheme which is you want the standard triple black, will cost an extra £800!

@adamc209 5 месяцев назад

Especially considering it looks pants with the visible rust 😮

@astralplumbing8227 5 месяцев назад

That’s a proper review. Well done! Clearly an awful lot of work has gone into making that video

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for noticing!

@florislok 5 месяцев назад

Its time that BMW designs a complete new GS. More retro. Round headlight etc. When I see that Kawasaki and Triumph in your garage I think: yes, that are bikes that really look good!

@lesliejohns5929 5 месяцев назад

The rear lights are an absolute no for me. Also, I find the overall looks of the bike, particularly the front really ugly. Too much tech for me as well. So not a bike I would buy (having owned a 1200gs).

@777geeman 5 месяцев назад

i had r1200r and wrote it off. i was in hospital for nearly 4 months and quite the ass hole to begin with. Still best bike except maybe my s1000r had unbelievable brakes. I'm sold on BMW through and through.

@nikoscosmos 5 месяцев назад

"....quite the asshole....".???

@777geeman 5 месяцев назад

@@nikoscosmos yea i was very sick. Deliriously throwing punch's both family and nurses. Pelvic reconstruction meant many infections including 6 months with catheter. Metal rods sticking out of my midriff. I don't remember being the ass hole but the stories say otherwise.

@777geeman 5 месяцев назад

More over, I'm fully mobile again but have both aluminum, stainless and titanium parts.

@nikoscosmos 5 месяцев назад

@777geeman how awful for you! Hopefully you have been able to regain some normality. All the best.

@777geeman 5 месяцев назад

@@nikoscosmos i have. Thanks

@calvinkhoo1189 4 месяца назад

Great honest review !!!

@numidian5191 5 месяцев назад

With respect to your comments about "sitting down in the bike" versus "on top of the bike", I absolutely concur, and to me, it is a little disquieting. I find that the thinner center stack in front of the handlebars attributes to that feeling. I take delivery of my R1300GS later this week, and I intend to cover the clear air deflectors on each side of the instrument stack with a black vinyl wrap material. That in itself should improve the visual ascetic to "put more in front of me" like a dashboard would be.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Yes that'sa good idea I reckon....

@dsimon9s29 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for posting. The new GS does seem to be a mixed bag. So... do you see yourself buying/acquiring the new 1300GS in the next 1 - 3 years? If not the GS, then which bike? Triumph, Ducati, Honda, KTM (I know not your favorite) or other???

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Video coming on that soon - stay tuned!

@edwardsenesac 5 месяцев назад

Sorry to hear that your “dodgy” shoulder is giving you such trouble after the trauma of recent surgery to fix the problem. Tough for you as you deal with heavy bikes daily as part of your work.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Tell me about it! Had another surgery on Tuesday keeping 🤞

@ChewableMeteor 5 месяцев назад

Great review, very detailed. Thanks mate

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

No problem 👍

@raymondpinder3692 5 месяцев назад

thanks for another first class review

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

My pleasure!

@TXLorenzo 5 месяцев назад

How many more gizmos can BMW put on a motorcycle? I will be going "backward" to a Royal Enfield,. Less is more and I have owned three generations of GSs.

@chewie8 5 месяцев назад

The rear lights issue is a huge mistake by BMW. I'm very surprised they designed it that way.

@nigelsride 5 месяцев назад

Great update Andy. Good question are all the little bits mounting up to a no. Its still a nice bike. But so expensive

@LambChopRides 5 месяцев назад

Enjoyed that Andy, Victor Meldrew has got nothing on you 😂

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

I don’t belieeeeeeeve it! 😘

@nikoscosmos 5 месяцев назад

...he got run over in the last episode!

@robertwbeams9929 5 месяцев назад

I'm disappointed with Motoraad. The many niggles (which would irritate me too) are simply unacceptable, model upgrades should improve everything, not introduce retrograde issues. Panniers incompatible with previous versions and not as simple. My 1200 has a standard stainless steel exhaust, looks as good as new after 6 years. I would despair at the rust on yours. I would have liked to see how/why they've changed the engine oil filter. Have they addressed the rear diff oil quantity, which is NOT 'fill to overflow'. Adaptive cruise brilliant. Makes the old cruise control suicidal. Don't sell your 1200 Andy, you would be regretting it still, in 2034.

@SmittyAZ 5 месяцев назад

I wish other reviewers would keep hitting on them for lighted switchgear. My KTM and Triumph have them. It makes a huge difference. Cleaning an adventure bike to cruise to the coffee shop?

@nickhignett942 5 месяцев назад

Yet another cracking video Andy , but I see you have a lot of helmets hung up in the garage. Couldn’t ask you which is your go to helmet as regards comfort,vision and how quiet it is or could you do a video on your helmets 😎👍🏻

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Maybe I should do a video on my helmets at some point. My Goto helmet is the Schuberth C5.

@marcelparcel88 5 месяцев назад

Sounds like it's the BMW that needs to go!!

@gillianbrodie6807 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the video. Very useful! 😃👍 I heard the whining noise goes after the first service.

@crustyzimmerman3324 5 месяцев назад

May I ask; What is that beautiful building in the opening scene? I think when the indicator is on, then that particular brake light should switch off, or the red LEDs should turn orange and start flashing. I hate scrolling indicators. I feel they are less impactful - visually speaking. The biggest joke is the scrolling indicators that are an option on Ducatis yet they’re only about 30mm long so all but moot. Have you done Moto Guzzi v100 Mandela? There’s also a new adventure version out now. You need red wing boots - as worn by Steve McQueen. 😂😂

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

I think it may used to be a convent - anyway as i found out it is now a private residence with a fairly unfriendly owner!! It's located opposite Hampden House in Great Hampden (Hampden House being the former headquarters of the "Hammer House of Horror" btw)

@bjrnhjjakobsen2174 5 месяцев назад

The price is more than GBP 50.000 in Denmark due to tax - makes no sense..

@MrC952 5 месяцев назад

I have the Trophy with gold wheels plus the enduro pack which makes it look more like a GS.I also have the Givi Trekker Outback evo top case in black just need to decide on the panniers now after the fiasco with the varios.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

I will get matching givi you panniers if it were my bike.

@Bigleefish 2 месяца назад

Big question…Based on comfort, ride and sportiness for day rides and an occasional couple of days tour, would you go 1300GS or Multistrada V4S?

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 месяца назад

GS for me - easier to live with....though prefer the looks of the Multi obviously!

@bullsfan3705 5 месяцев назад

Brilliant, thank you.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

You're very welcome!

@manselltache5322 5 месяцев назад

Followed a 1300GS yesterday in a car and the combined rear lights, indicators are very poor. You can see the indicators are on but they are not very bright and it’s less obvious sitting next to the brake lights. Poor design. I’m sure the aftermarket will take care of this but it feels like something that has been heavily compromised for cost and will likely be expensive and fiddly for an owner to have addressed.

@StangfanStangfan 5 месяцев назад

Having had the opportunity to try it at demo days, I tested the RT and the K1600GTinstead. The 1300 just doesn’t appeal to me at all. I had an ‘18, loved it and bought a new’23 GS Trophy. It is so purposeful looking and pretty, and the 1250 being an update for me, plenty of torque and horsepower. If I wanted to go for a prettier and powerful dual sport I would go for the multi V4. I have no doubt from hearing other people commenting about the power of the bike, but is it really the point?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Well, to me it’s not for sure, what I look for is, long distance load carrying and pillion comfort plus a bit of road presence for good measure, think this one comes up short on all those points.

@StangfanStangfan 5 месяцев назад

Perhaps the GSA will check all the boxes. I’m sure BMW is listening to people’s opinions and make corrections along the way with the new GSA. They may just clearly want to define both models in their respective niche clientele.

@BlueAlgon 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the video.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

You are welcome!

@oriolbates 5 месяцев назад

Pocas veces he visto una revisión tan realista de una moto. Era una de mis opciones como próxima moto, pero el peso en parado para mí es un gran inconveniente. Creo que una moto mas realista para mi condición física es una Triumph Tiger 850, cuyo peso es algo menor.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Well it’s not just about the physical weight numbers of course, but how the bike carries the weight and in general the GS carries it quite low so although the Triumph Tiger maybe lighter on paper in practice you may find it easier to move a GS!

@neilaldridge9261 5 месяцев назад

Great video as always. So knowing what you know now, what is your ideal configuration for an R1300 GS?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

The R1250 Adventure configuration!!

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Seriously, if I could get past the looks then I’d have the 1300 with adaptive ride height, the radar features and skip the luggage. Plus, of course all that comes with the TE trim.

@3375mikey 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for the review, I have one question, how much weight can these bikes carry, for example: rider, pillion, and bags?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

I don’t know the official figure, does anyone ever take any notice of it?

@3375mikey 5 месяцев назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer thank you sir very much for responding back. I don’t think most people take notice, because the manufactures and the dealers hide this information from them. People should start asking these questions from the manufacturers who keep demanding higher and higher prices, in most cases more expensive than a lot of automobiles, but they don’t feel the need to give necessary info, except for the usual. Especially on machines like this, where it is going to be used for two up riding for touring, loading it up with protection & gear, thank you.

@willfriar5163 5 месяцев назад

I was looking forward to the 1300 Gs as being less "lardy" as the previous versions but for over 20k i find "some" of its shortcomings unacceptable at that price point

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Yes, me too.

@gazzertrn 5 месяцев назад

Great review if you are thinking of buying one , lots of little faults i agree , and a big price on it . I do like the look though . But yeah that front looks a bit naff . But i love the boxer engine , how much longer (and bigger ) can she go .

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

It’s got a bit more life left in it yet!

@nealeduffy3770 5 месяцев назад

Great informative video TMF.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Thanks 👍

@neilanderson2374 5 месяцев назад

Id love to ride one of these big bikes. How do you know you have developed the skills to be able to cope with it ?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Just work your way up, I guess, you know when you’re ready.

@223Sako 5 месяцев назад

The exhaust rust is pretty poor on such a relatively "premium" bike. It makes getting the option 719 a bit pointless.

@jameswhitton-spriggs5963 5 месяцев назад

How is the ride quality compared to your goldwing?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Well, the Goldwing is on another level of comfort and smoothness because of the six cylinder engine, but the quality of the ride on the new BMW is excellent.

@jameswhitton-spriggs5963 5 месяцев назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks for the reply, I have exactly the same goldwing model as you. I didn’t think that was beatable 😃

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

No it's the best for two up touring I've ever experienced.....

@BatterseaBill 5 месяцев назад

That's why I always buy a used model. Get all the bells and whistles for a fraction of the price of a new one.

@milabaigar 5 месяцев назад

Now check out the new vogue 900 almost all of bmw exstras are standard 9000€ wow looks nice . Bmw got too exspensive for stuff now. You like the non stick finish so when camping you can fry an egg ! 🤣😂great vids by the way 👍👍

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Haven’t thought of the fried eggs point nice one, thanks for the kind words - all the best.

@flippy66 5 месяцев назад

The centre stand is £155?? That's bloody brilliant! Usually twice that much as an option. If you don't like the Option 719 stuff why did you get it, seems like speccing the Trophy would've been the way to go? Those panniers are super ugly and side loading 👎

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Unfortunately, the bike is a loan bike from BMW UK and you get what you get, if I was speccing the bike, I would have the triple black with the adaptive ride height feature, that would be a fabulous Bike.

@Fatcatztravel1250 5 месяцев назад

Not a bike i will buy. Stick with my current 1250GSA... sadly when the new GS Adventure is launching price will be substantial. Seen few problems in other videos. Sat Nav not working. Starting problems. Top boxes falling off. Batteries going flat. New bike gremlins?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

....actually I did have a flat battery on one occasion - forgot about that....

@jvtaylor3 5 месяцев назад

Test rode an R1300GS, immediately returned, and purchased an R1250GSA.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Why out of interest?

@jvtaylor3 5 месяцев назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer The number one reason, is that the bike is just uglier. Not in the good ugly way that the outgoing model is, the front end of the bike is just really bad looking. I tried to let it "grow on me" over several days but it just never looked right. The other improvements to the bike, the radar is nice, but I've owned several bikes with radar cruise and while it is a great improvement, it isn't something I'd necessarily say is a deal maker or breaker. The improvements to the engine and shifting are there when you compare stock to stock. Some upgrades on the 1250 and you are so close it would be very hard to tell any difference. Finally, BMW did a lot of research to target the younger crowd. They like the Multistrada more, so they made the new GS look more like a Multistrada. However, why not just buy a Multistrada at that point?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

@@jvtaylor3 Completely with you on all points!

@d33b33 5 месяцев назад

Is there any point in investing hundreds of pounds into one of the quietest helmets available, if you're going to stick an arm with a GoPro onto it? In my limited experience with Schuberth's silence, I found it still necessary to wear either ear plugs or noise-cancelling earbuds.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Yes you still need ear plugs in any helmet…

@d33b33 5 месяцев назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Is the added GoPro super noisy or doesn't it make any difference?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Makes no difference....

@ianhalliwell8604 5 месяцев назад

Its obvious about horses for course's and I'm not a long distance covering continent's kind of biker these days. I'm in the less is more camp so all the technology and scrolling through endless menu's and faffing about isn't for me. Trying to keep it simple and therefore cheaper is much more to my tastes and pocket.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Mine too!

@john-wq8kf 5 месяцев назад

The biggest is a deep pocket

@ukvamp 5 месяцев назад

BMW are being greedy with the price of their bikes lately, i really like the look of the new R12 Nine T but I'd want it with the comfort pack and spoke wheels and just those alone push the price to shy of £16k! No thanks! It's way more than the competition!

@nigelmitchell4855 5 месяцев назад

But have you noticed the cylinders.....?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

In what way?

@johnmacdonald1878 5 месяцев назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer There is no offset.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Yes I did...

@coboisarapatanas 5 месяцев назад

V4S?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Not the Multistrada no.....

@coboisarapatanas 5 месяцев назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer 🤔

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

...Streetfighter...

@coboisarapatanas 5 месяцев назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer and touring? You said you where in the market. That one whatever the trim is rocket…

@UncleWally3 5 месяцев назад

Wonder which niggles will fade away and which niggles will get under the skin and fester? I respect and admire Boxers, but clunky gear shift’s finally wore me down . . .

@stevenpeyton7476 5 месяцев назад

I have the exact same bike but with the adjustable height feature. I just completed a four-day ride across America, and I loved it. All the complaints you bring up are minor annoyances that aren’t relevant after you spend a lot of time with the bike. The motor is better, the suspension is better, the wind protection is better, and the automatic height control is a game changer for me and my 30” inseam. The stability of this bike is what really amazes me - out in the desert, I was running at 90+ MPH and it felt like I was doing 50. BTW, I did have the 1250 GS, so I do know the differences...

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

I’m glad you are enjoying the bike.

@MKA63 4 месяца назад

Meh ... Sticking with my R1250GS Triple Black.

@Denali1600 5 месяцев назад

Very good review, but especially at £23k seems somewhat underwhelming. Maybe sticking to the base option at £16k - getting that great engine - but foregoing some of the bells and whistles is the way to go on this bike.

@spetersonmusic 5 месяцев назад

Extremely imformative.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Thank you, always good to hear from you, Scott!

@mattWallJsy 5 месяцев назад

Im liking the new TMF towers at the start. Plenty of room for more garage space. 👍🏼😂

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

I wish!

@simondepass4647 5 месяцев назад

🤣

@andrewedmonds9347 5 месяцев назад

At night when looking at the horizon or just beneath: The angle of the headlight needs to be well separated from the angle of the eyeline..because: We need a shadow for depth perception. If your eyeline is close to the headlight.. you won’t see a decent shadow, which CAN be a major issue at night when a post is pointing AT You. Think of a speed hump or deep pothole. We need the shadow man ! Love your review, very grateful for your experience on the bike for months. So many little gems in your review. They may delay the 1300 Adventure after you and others find this “ First “ of the new range has so many things that BMW could address easily before launching the 1300 with a real adventure tank. Will it be the 1400GSA ?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

I think it will just be called the R1400GS

@wyattblessing7078 5 месяцев назад

I have found the KEY to watching The Missenden Flyer as an American. It is simple, .75 speed on the video in RU-vid settings, and I can understand him just fine. Awesome, good info from a good bloke, at .75 speed.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Great tip!

@wyattblessing7078 5 месяцев назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for the great reviews and rides. Always awesome to see another 2 wheel aficionado. From the PNW, USA.

@bav114 5 месяцев назад

I just tried that but it made Andy sound a bit drunk 🍺 😂

@d33b33 5 месяцев назад

I hadn't noticed but now that you mention it, he does talk a little bit like he's in a Guy Ritchie movie, Andy does.

@wyattblessing7078 5 месяцев назад

@@d33b33 Snatch, or Lock Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels. for sure. I'm sure its normal for Brits, and I'm sure we sound like their mildly slow cousins from across the pond, but if we slow them down, and the speed us up, we have the makings of a WW1, WW2 and WW3 winners. WW4 is fought with stones so we don't have to worry about RU-vid or other tech.

@specialcircs 5 месяцев назад

'had the missus on the back'? I didn't realise the seats were that roomy! ;-)

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Easy!

@rexchan8 5 месяцев назад

The sweetspot is still the R1200 LC. I have had my GSA Rallye for 6 years now and have no intention to upgrade given that all the CC reviews haven’t convinced me the newer bike is better for touring. Sure there are new gizmos but does it improve the travelling overall? If not, it’s not worth the change.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Agreed!

@johnmacdonald1878 5 месяцев назад

Nice Bike, great review. I went and had a look at one the other day. Just stopped in to pick up some oil and filters. One of the guys was nice enough to show me the demo. The blue one. Standard seat with adaptive ride, fit me like a glove. Tons of tech l never figure out. Heavy Rain. Didn't ride it. Just as well, might have bought one. The 1200 is still a great bike. The heated seat, radar and adaptive cruise would be nice.

@peterparker219 5 месяцев назад

Love the pointing stick 🤣🤣 Thanks for the show 🙏🏻

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

No problem 👍

@RK01 5 месяцев назад

Gold panniers, who thinks that would be a good look! Interested to wait and see the GSA version.

@iantaylor33 5 месяцев назад

Really good video and very informative and enjoyable to watch like the rest of your content. Just taken delivery of my triple black GS 1300 and degree with the comments on making the heated grip and windscreen control is more complex. I am a taller rider and have picked up that there are two positions for the windscreen. You can un-bolt it and move it to a higher position. Perfect!

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

On the old bike I just wound a knob!

@andyhorsfall9394 5 месяцев назад

Enjoyed that honest review, thanks. I looked at one of these also in the green with all the toys. My wife sat on it and also found the seat too hard. That was the deal breaker 😄

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Glad we concur!

@josephSF 2 месяца назад

@@andyhorsfall9394 interesting what your selection criteria is for a motorcycle.

@sunnyday114 5 месяцев назад

Only had time to watch the first 13 minutes. Agree with you, Andy - absolute horrible bike. I bought a Vespa btw 👍

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Cool!

@andrewedmonds9347 5 месяцев назад

So grateful for your insights. Very useful info, thank you very much !

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

My pleasure!

@ram64man 5 месяцев назад

There should be a better rear break light the combination , I saw one just the other morning after the day change and you just cannot see them in strong light , even then the indicator is at best poor

@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for this great review. Daft as it sounds, I would rather save many many thousands and stick with my versatile Honda NC750X.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Fair enough!

@andyallen1651 5 месяцев назад

Thanks Andy for this excellent update. The price I found is so expensive, especially if you want extras added. I ended up buying the Yamaha Tracer 9 GT plus. It has amazing tech, superb engine, and smooth and lovely to ride. Panniers included too all for £14,900. It has the adaptive cruise control, centre stand great TFT. So my view is why spend so much, ( Unless money is no object } if you can get all you need for so much less. Love your channel Andy.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the info!

@carsyoungtimerfreak1149 5 месяцев назад

Obviously everybody is entitled to his or her opinion. However in 50 years with motorcycles I cannot understand why people rave about BMWs. To be frank, I have the same feeling with BMW cars. I believe the brand is highly overated. All my bikes are a bit older, yet stem from the same era, so I feel I can compare them. The overall quality of my 2 Honda's is just better than the quality of my RT. Enginewise the RT is a tractor and not a very good one: rough, lumpy. A mate of mine has a RT1200 LC. The engine is still not refined. Which is not surprising as, on a bike, when you get over 700, 800 cc you need at least 4 pots to have a decent, smooth running engine. Where the RT shines is as a work bike. That's why I still have it: stability is great (also in nasty weather), weather protection is great, seat is excellent (much better than on more recent Beemers). I use one of my bikes almost each and every day all year. On really bad weather days the RT is a great bike to be on. Qualitywise BMW is bad. Rust on the exhaust of your GS is a big isssue, given the cost of the bike... I like the Chris Harris' videos. Although a BMW guy he, in my view, had the correct opinion about BMW and its engineers...

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 месяцев назад

I’ve not seen the Chris Harris video, so I’ll have to look that up. Thanks for the recommendation. I’ve only ever owned one BMW bike (2 cars both excellent btw) and that’s my GS 1200 this 1300 is a loan Bike from BMW UK which I have treated as a very in-depth test ride - and I’m very glad I did! Although some people think otherwise not actually a BMW fanboy, but I’ve really loved owning my R1200 GS and for the time being she will be staying!

@josephlarmor550 5 месяцев назад

I have to agree, I just can’t go past 4 Japanese cylinders, but I wish I still had my Suzuki GS850 from 1981 with its shaft drive. My Versys 1000 SE GT has everything else I need, no extras required. As you say, over a certain engine size twins don’t seem to make much sense. I’m old enough to remember the launch of the BMW R90S in the late 1970s, and even then there was a lot of talk that the boxer engine had been taken as far as it could be. Now I see the R1300,and heaven help us, the R18, and I wonder what is going on!