This is what my AI said "It is purely speculative and subjective to determine who would win in a fight between a dragon and Optimus Prime. Both are fictional characters with different abilities and strengths. Additionally, the outcome would depend on the specific circumstances and context of the fight...In a hypothetical scenario, if we consider the dragons to possess immense size, strength, and magical abilities, combined with their ability to breathe fire, it is conceivable that a dragon might have the upper hand in a fight against Optimus Prime. However, Optimus Prime is a powerful and skilled Autobot leader with advanced weaponry, agility, and tactical abilities. Ultimately, the outcome would depend on the specific characteristics and abilities assigned to each respective dragon and Optimus Prime in this hypothetical scenario...If I had to choose, in a hypothetical scenario, I would lean towards Optimus Prime having the advantage and potentially winning the fight. He is a highly advanced and formidable robotic being with superior technology, combat skills, and an arsenal of weapons. However, the outcome is still subjective and open to interpretation."
That is so true it even follows the Stan Lee quote "The question Im always asked is who would win in a fight. Who would win in a fight if Galactus fight the Hulk, or if Thor fought Iron Man. And theres one answer to all of that, its so simple, anyone should know this... The person who would win in a fight is the person the WRITER wants to win!!! If I want to have astory about the Thing from Fantastic Four, and he gets into a BIG fight with Spiderman. People are gonna ask 'well who would win?'. Well that depends on who I WANT to win. If I want Spiderman to win, he'll win. If I want the Thing to win, he'll win. THESE ARE FICTICIOUS CHARACTERS. THE WRITER CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH THEM. SO STOP ASKING THOSE BONEHEAD QUESTIONS" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L4_zFYnnn2Y.html
According to the first Transformers movie at around 1 hour and 7 minutes they are discussing the sabot rounds they used which are hotloaded for a 6000 degree magnisium burn. There is your melting point. Could be less but we know that around 6000 degrees is what it is in canon. They also discuss a self regenerating molecular armor. Later one just about every weapon that nest team uses is 105 sabot rounds or some type of equivilant due to the fact that they are used in tanks so it wasn't practical to carry essentially a grenade launcher around. You can see them do this is the first Movie during the battle. In the next movie they go back to assault rifles (NOT AR). We can only assume that they took 105 sabot rounds and made them work with that gun. Of course they are no longer 105 sabot rounds as the 105 would signify the mm and we know that there is no way that an assault rifle has that kind of barrel. Optimus most likely froze due to not moving and stayed in stasis. He snapped out of it quickly and clearly did not die. He either hit the freezing point or just didnt move for a long time to concerve power and such. They are seen in just about every cartoon moving in space so they can do it. This can also be seen by Megatron going through space to visit The Fallen in Transformers Revenge of the Fallen. I really want to have a sit down with you guys and explain all of this. I am somewhat enraged lol. They can regenerate their outer metal. Same as humans can heal skin. They cannot however regenerate their inner parts. Basically our organs. They have their voiceboxes which Bumblebee had his ripped out of his throat in Bumblebee. They cannot repair that. They need to get a new one. This is seen in Transformers The Last Knight when Kade is putting a new voice box in Bee. Transformers have many diseases seen in many different shows. One example is in Transformers Prime when Optimus gets a disease made by Megatron. I think it may actually be like cancer but different. Another can be seen in the original show. Megatron gave the constructacons a virus. He also used this on other tech later on. I think Optimus could take on a dragon. He beat a T-Rex. Also Optimus has his sword and if it can cut through Cybertronians then I am sure it would go right through a dragon. Optimus also has guns which do the same thing so... In the movies the All Spark is destroyed in the first movie. He has the Matrix of Leadership with him. The All Spark he NEVER has in his possession for an extended amount of time. It is the heart of Cybertron essentially. He wouldn't just be carrying that with him. Optimus can beat Pacific Rim. Take his new model and he is literally a martial artist. Go to the second movie and he has a jetpack. Go to the first movie and he has swords, axes, guns and moves. Optimus would 100% win. Also Transformers are less clunky. They can move around much better. This is everything I hear wrong from the video. Please let me know if I missed something and I will add it or if I am wrong and we can have a peacefull discussion and try to figure it out.
In the Optimus vs a dragon question, why is his melting point so important? Its not like he'll instantly die if he gets hit with fire breath like a human would. He'd at least be able to survive long enough to hit the dragon with his axe or sword or shoot him with his blaster, all of which would be able to kill the dragon much faster than the fire breath would kill him
As someone taking Physics, I think I get the point Dropsy is trying to make (albeit being wrong in her execution and deduction). Dropsy's is making is that a sterotypical Fire-Breathing Dragon should be able to breathe a blast of fire enough to melt Optimus Prime. However, Dropsy is going off the assumption that Optimus Prime's metal is Earth Metal, follows the rules of our reality, and is nonliving. Which is wrong, as (in the video) they discover that Autobots are composed of living metals. The metal pointing does correlate to how hot fire would have to melt the metal; hence, killing the Autobots. Here is my take on the minimum melting point for Optimus Prime would have to correlate to a spaceship's reentry into the Earth's atmosphere as they can enter the Earth's atmosphere without metling into metallic pudding. From my reliable source, Google, a spaceship's reentry into Earth's atmosphere is 1477° C (or 2691°F). As for the Dragon's fire breath, assuming it is red/orange in color would range between 977°F - 2,190°F. As such, a Dragon might be able to melt Optimus Prime assuming that Optimus' melting point is near the theoretical minimum if staying still and not regenerating. Nevertheless, this is only assuming that this is the only factor in the battle excluding EVERYTHING ELSE from Battle IQ, flight, power, strength, etc.
1. Optimus can fly (with his trailer) 2. He’s beaten a massive dragon multiple times. (Twice) 3. Beat fire breathing dinosaurs. 4. Optimus has flown through space and entered earth’s atmosphere multiple times without a ship. Edit: BIG GUN.
The thing with space is that little convection occurs because there is no air. If you were to go into space your body would stay at almost the same temperature the entire time it is there.
The Bio-Metal is inconsistent when it comes to temperature resistance. The Tracer rounds in the movies were hot enough to pierce the metal and was in fact the only way the humans had to damage them without artillery. The fact that they can survive re-entry into earths atmosphere, and the friction temperature of re-entry is several thousand degrees Celsius, but not 1650 degrees Celsius from a tracer round shows the inconsistency. I have no doubt that a dragon could beat most of the autobots. Optimus Prime is skilled with sword and shield, a sword that melts through metal. Any fire that burns yellow is not going to be hot enough to affect Optimus Prime.
15:26 This is something I found out watching Transformers PRIME Bee can't talk because his voice box was ripped out and in 1 episode Bee's T-cog (Transformation Cog) was taken out of him and couldn't transform into his car form. The only way Bee could be able to transform again was to get a transplant from Ratchet or use the forge of solus (which can create any weapon or item from scrap). So the only way to get a new voicebox would be a transplant from another transformer or make a new one from an ancient Prime artefact
Depends on the story. If it's your average Chinese dragon then dragons win. If it's dnd dragon(the shape-shifting one) then dragons are gonna win. But if it's a dragon from transformers(which is very weak) then the transformers would win
Smaug and any other dragon: My scales are impenetrable! One archer with a steel arrow fired from a string: are you sure about that? I'd like to point out, depending on size, a large metal construct with a blade or sword meters long of the same strength would be able to stand against a dragon of a similar size to itself. blunt force damage is also a thing.
Spinister's profile says his weapon is hot enough to turn Autobots into molten slag. It would seem then that 1760 C or 3200 F is enough to melt the average Autobot. One would assume this would apply to Decepticons as well but we can't be sure. However, Hot Spot is stated to resist 5,000 F due to his Vanadium-steel alloy. Warpath is also made of this alloy so it can be assumed he can resist up to 5,000 F as well. It may be logical if Defensor could resist 5,000 F if his core component, Hot Spot can though that may be stretching it. Inferno can survive 8,000 C because of his plating.
ok so optimus primes melting point would have to be hotter than plasma which is over 10,000+ degrees ceclcius or 10k degrees celicus and since a dragons flame is only 1k or 1000 degrees celsius but optimus would easiler be over 5-20 times heat resistance to plasma
Im not sure what temperature optimus prime would necesarily melt at but becuase we know that he is living. We know that he has to have dna and when dna is heated to 165 degrees F it starts to denature. So if exposed long enough optumus prime would die at just 165 degrees F.
things i’ve learned in todays video. we know less about Optimus Prime than i thought. Clifford is a kaiju. Lord of the rings dragons are massive. Steve wishes to be reincarnated as a computer monitor.
If you seen the last knight he fixed his voice box in the bumblebee movie blitzwing ripped out bees voice box and in dark of the moon iron hide dies by rust from a very old virus in the transformers universe called cosmic rust which kills iron hide and the twins
Optimus prime is made of cybertronium metal, also known as living metal, which has a melting point of 2000 degrees celsius, or 3632 degrees Fahrenheit. The average dragon as we all know cannot burn steel, as we see through many movies and myths, knights, and warriors alike will carry steel shields to protect from the fire breath of dragons, steel burns at around 2500 degrees Fahrenheit, so in conclusion optimus prime, and other transformers would not melt by a dragon's breath.
as most of the transformers are made of tritanium, their melting point is much much more higher than the melting point of the earth metals. As the metal is fictional the melting point cannot be measured, so we can just say that the melting point is much much higher than the earth metals and i asked Bard if they can survive the heat of the sun, it said, they probably can
If ur below eagle, I wouldn't recommend going to the arctic It's really risky and there are loads of campers there mainly waiting for snowy owls but they can attack u too. I would go to the city where there's more food and stuff to level up
I think you guys underestimate how powerful they are even without their main weapon they can still beat a dragon or another mech also dropsy is wrong it doesn’t matter how strong fire is they can re heal themselves I mean didn’t Optimus Prime literally almost died at one point and then healed back up.
I don't think you guys know enough about Optimus Prime. He's literally powerful on a universal scale, having defeatsd beings in full control of universes before. He's also beat dragons before. Also, I love how Dropsy was adament that it needed to be a dragon, not a wyvern and then she picked Smaug
It depends on which Optimus prime and dragon were using if it's movies dragons win, animated series Optimus prime wins, comics or book tie from the one I know but their version of each that I heard would make my brain go ouches
What I think needs to be clarified here is what type of dragon is dropsy thinking of, for one it’s definitely bigger then toothless since she considers the game of throne dragons baby’s so given that I’m pretty sure the dragon she’s thinking of is as big as a three story horse, can fly and fire strong enough to melt metal(maybe titanium)
optimus vs dragon, i say optimus win, sure the dragon got flight and fire, but optimus got giant gun and sword, good chance that can take out a dragon pretty quick, quicker then the fire, and if we talking about optimus without backup, there is a couple of optimus's that can fly, like cybertron, energon(even though it doesn't look like it), dark of the moon(because he has a trailer that can become a jetpack), transformers prime beast hunter(where he went toy to toy with a metal dragon) end of transformers animated
also going to say, they can fly through space without a ship for the most part, mostly the onees meant to fly like starscream, megatron, skyfire/jetfire, it just simplier to use a ship because it like us humans with cars, we go further and faster
I was Toeny Barceloni! So cool to get mentioned in a video. I'm just wondering if this was one of my really lagging games. I hit 22,000 ping in this game once
There are dragons that can just step on Optimus Prme but there are others that get destroyed by him and then there's the middle ground where it wiyld be a fair fight
Oh I feel so sorry for you Jerry and the Buddies you guys have opened an entire can and you are not prepared for what's going to happen in the comments.
Looked it up some estimates say the average auto bot can withstand 3,200 f but many decepticons can withstand 5,000 and for 1 specific it has potential to withstand 8,000 f Dropsy in the pacific rim lore they kiju aren't just aliens they are clones made in an alien factory designed for invasion and we didn't even see the full strength of the kiju because their invasion was cut short due to the nuke they dropped. Basically they were the scouts if I remember and the exterminators were never able to be deployed on earth Cappy there is an anime called that time i got reincarnated as a vending machine
the transformers talk reminded me that when i was in 6th grade for our final year end test for my story i wrote a 13 page story that was just the lore of the transformers prime story but retold very badly with different names, and i passed
to answer the question if the transformers have spaceships the answer is yes case and point the auto bots ship is called the ark and the despeacon ship is called the nemesis
