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So, I’m torn between getting the Yamaha 670 or the Roland 30x . They are similarly priced but have different pros and cons. What questions should I ask myself to make a decision?
I have been playing acoustic piano for 55 years now, bought my first digital piano in the late 1980s with a Roland U220 module MIDI controlled from a Juno keyboard. About every 5 to 10 years, I would buy into the next generation of digital pianos, but even those 5 to 10 years showed only slight improvement. At 65 years old I am running out of patience so this year I have bought the Roland RD-2000 for the V-Piano, the Kurtzweil PC4 for the sampled piano, the ease of editing the piano tone and the VAST architecture for sound design. And to round out the pianos I just purchased a Yamaha DGX-670 for the incredible sampled sound, extensive editing of this sample, and a 4 pedal system, and the best sounding built-in speakers I have ever heard. Why would I buy three pianos? As a professional solo pianist, I have to play whatever piano is on stage, and the more different actions I have at home the more adaptation skill I bring to my concerts. All three are completely different actions by different manufacturers, before all I had was Yamaha P95 to practice on, I enjoyed the very heavy keyboard action, kept my hands strong, but when playing acoustics on stage these felt very light and backing that far off on pressure/velocity was distracting. I have to have digitals at home because I live in a small apartment surrounded by 7 other units, for the love of my neighbors I must use headphones 99% of the time for practice. And, I live in 200 square feet of space, so room for a grand piano is out of the question. My friend bought a DGX-670 so I have played her keyboard for many hours and taught her how to use the functions for many more hours, I know this piano very well. By designing your own piano on this DGX, with all the effects and equalization, combined with the best Yamaha piano sample I have ever heard makes this "cheap" piano the best value on the face of the earth!!! It is NOT a beginner piano only; I have 55 years of experience and I love this piano. Yamaha has gone so far beyond the update of the old DGX you can't even call it a DGX anymore, the only thing missing is MIDI 5pin and stereo outputs, though the headphone output works okay for amplification, just make absolutely sure you only use a stereo amp and two speakers and a stereo cable, otherwise the monaural sound is not very good. Since you can have the speakers and headphone on at the same time, adding some powered stereo speakers in your home can make the good sound of the built in speakers spectacular. Through headphones, I feel the DGX-670 competes with any price piano out there today, and with added stereo powered speakers competes with any home pianos at any price. Not sure what Yamaha was thinking on this update, they just blew away all competition in the entire world with this "cheap" piano. I never have use the word "game-changer" in reviewing any instrument until this new 670, it truly is the biggest game changer in digital pianos since the first digital of over 35 years ago. There must be hundreds of digital piano choices out there today, this is the only one any beginner should make. And even this 55 year pro, is wonderfully pleased with it for home practice. Any digital piano without extensive editing of sound options is absolutely worthless, so if you don't like the sound of the DGX, edit it. To edit you will need to learn all the functions, it will be worth your time. OR, maybe you will just like the stock pre-set sound and never have to do a thing. The editing of the DGX is so extensive and complete I was able to match a very unusual and ambient piano sound we heard on a RU-vid concert to the DGX perfectly. Incredible!
I’ve had mine for going on 3 years now and it has held up fantastically! I’ve spent a looot of time even just playing with modifying and saving new voices
Just purchased the 670 today. I’ve been spoiled playing grands my whole life and was afraid I would have to give up the grand sound and feel with a downsize to a keyboard. This instrument shocked me. It’s seamless and I can’t wait to explore all the features.
There's always 1 guy that will find something to complain about. Your own child could create this piano and in your brain somewhere, you just have to deal on it. It's just how humans are.
The reason that it is in the back is because it doubles as an amp out. And I would never want tne amp out in the front. All my other keyboards have headphones in the rear also.
Use a headphone amplifier with it. The headphone jack can be attached to the input of the Headphone amplifier and then allow for additional headphone connections with individual full volume control. See the following: Behringer MicroAMP HA400 4-ch Headphone Amp 4-channel Headphone Amp with 1/4" Stereo I/O
Purchased a DGX 670 about 4 months ago. Still discovering features. Love the sound and feel of the keyboard. Even though it does a lot, it is still easy to use. The recording features are fabulous. I can sit and play it for hours. I'm pretty obsessed with it! Thanks for the review! Very thorough!
Hi Jeremy, I purchased my DGX 670 after watching you on RU-vid a few moths ago. I am a beginner and needed some lessons. I am 80 and and have arthritic fingers so using key board should exercise them I joined Pianote last March for lessons. Last month I purchased your beginner. lessons on the keyboard , and now on module 12. I can recommend your course. It has given me a lot of confidence and fun. I know I will not be a great pianist but with your help I won't be a bad keyboard player. Best wishes Roy
I bought it based on Jeremy's recommendation. The instrument has its pros and cons. I find it overly complex. I wonder if Jeremy's course would help me learn to use the automation.
Hi Roy! I am just coming up to my 70th Birthday, so I was delighted to read that you had started at 80 year young! I will I think, be buying this Yamaha DGX 670 as well. So glad tidings and thank you for giving me the impetus to get off my duff and get learning the piano!
I've had mine around 6 months now. Why are the lights red for on and green for off? Why are the lights so bright, and badly located that I can't read the text above the buttons? Why are the buttons a horrible rubber that attracts dust and won't clean? And why is the menu so difficult and non-intuitive to navigate? Every screen uses different buttons/wheel/cursor to move around, it's awful!! The sound, however is stunning. The keys are beautifully weighted, the functions are amazing, and it feels great to play. I wouldn't swap it for anything else, I just wish there was some effort put into the usability. I've replaced a DGX-630 with this, and the old one was much easier to use.
you really sold me on this unit with feature #4: those 263 rhythms with 4 variations each...and especially your idea that these backing tracks can be "practice metronomes"...and then you showed that different parts of the rhythm accompaniment can be turned on/out. great video and info
This piano is a good piece of electronics. It has piano, workstation and arranger capabilities. I own a Kross 2 and the learning curve is harder than this one, I´ve found a intuitive and friendly way to configure it as your needs. You can set up trilllions of stuff from easy things like Voices up to set up the Style and Song Creators, it all depends on your abilities to not only play this instrument through the Presets built in. It has a good 16 track sequencer to become an artist, compose a song with your editable Style. I've bought this keyboard 2 weeks ago and I'm still impressed. Good review Jeremy!
This is a digital piano well worth this revisit. If anything, this instrument is overwhelming with its riches - certainly exceptional value for the price, or indeed, a much higher price!
Hello dear! At the left side of the room, I have a new Yamaha DGX 670 digital keyboard. Oh, that sounds and styles are superb! For me, this piano comes with 88 graded hammer keys. I have a question for you; how to adjust the piano settings, including DSP, reverb, chorus, style, partselect, etc.? I want to explore all the functions of the GX 670, but is very complicated. Thanks a lot!
Why the heck didn't Yamaha even TRY to make this more of a piano for gigging? I mean, no Line Outputs , REALLY? Why not? Then there is the weight; is so much weight really necessary? Are there weights inside this 'board you can remove? Why not take all this technology and re-package it into an instrument you can take to gigs?
Hey Jeremy: Awesome effort on the DGX. I need to get one for a new elementary school music job I landed. I already have a DGX at home but it’s an earlier model but still has killer performance parameters. I received grant monies for another school that I subbed at earlier this year. Yup I bought one for that school too. We even did a Christmas program for the parents (in the Gym) and did not even need to amp the keyboard because the level of sound was so freaking big. Thank you Jeremy for a wonderful job plugging this delightful keyboard.
Sounds like one of Yamaha's "hold my beer" moments, where they not only destroy the competition, they destroy their own previous best efforts. The User Manual must be huge.... Thanks for the video.
Brother Jeremy, do you know I found a way to make DPs sounds 10 times better...by connecting to a subwoofer or full range speaker system...don't need audio out jacks , headphone jack is fine because the sound engine/source is the same .... Difference is the speakers/wattages.... Right? 🙏🙏
It's some sort of a combination of stage piano, arranger keyboard, and synthesizer workstation, making it suitable for almost all scenes. Not top-tier though, but it's definitely omnipotent enough for most amateur or semi-pro applications
I have MODX 8, turns out i don't need synthesizer that much with external bulky loud speaker, i just need built in speaker digital piano that feels and sounds like actual piano. In that term, should I swap my modx for dgx670?
Hi, I own a DGX 650 but am limited on recording features and cannot connect to external apps for other features. Is the recording capability better on this 670 model ? Can you layer tracks, is recording easier, can you external app? I find it too easy to overwrite and lose recordings with the accidental touch of a button 🫤 I have had my 650 for 10 yrs though and love it but feel like I am missing better and needed upgrades, thank you ✌️
I was thinking the SX700, SX900 but this DGX-670? IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEED! I own the DGX-230 with only 2 Variations that confuses me and messes up my songs I play cause the fill-ins to break it apart. This DGX-670 has exactly 4 Variations which is perfect!! Only 1 Intro and 1 Ending? I can live with that!
Jeremy: You didn't mention that, apparently, as your own playing gets more 'intense', or louder. or something, the DGX-670 moves back and forth among it's four levels of accompaniment by analyzing your playing! Did you not find this feature unique and useful?
No doubt this is an amazing piece of technology at a very reasonable price. It does have its cons, but only minor if this board fits your needs. Good stuff Jeremy
Bravo Jeremy. Still an excellent video. In sequence 3, you begin to explain the ''registration'' process. I'd wish you continue the explanation. We have trouble to add more registration bank, because sometime the last registration we're doing is tranfered to the ones made before. I do something wrong, but I can't find what. If you can do a little video like the present one on that subject, I'm sure it will help many 670 fans. In your spare time, if you ever have....Thanks. JP
Is there a way to set it so that I can play 1 or 2 finger chords without having the rhythm playing? I can do that on my much cheaper Yamaha keyboard, but on this one it appears to only have that option if the background rhythm is playing? Am I missing something?
I enjoyed the video demo.Yes i totally agree too yamaha did a great jib on this line of digital pianos. also alother thing i love about it is it has Megavoices and super Art! voices too. as for drum kits the most favorite or mine was HouseKit. I loaded a style from another keyboard Tyros4 and it sounded incredible. i might buy one in the future.😀😎
I've tried this model many times at Guitar Center and it's incredible for the price. I used to play a real Yamaha baby grand and this comes extremely close.
Great video Jeremy. Answered a whole lot of questions. One thing: I've been looking at a P125 for a couple of years and love the piano sounds. Does the DGX-670 have the same superior piano sounds? Thanks.
@@JeremySee thank you 🙏 it is amazing I can play Johnny Cash hurt on it both piano part and the guitar at the same time. I also could play strawberry Fields forever on it. It is an amazing piece of equipment and I am learning so much with every passing day. I started piano almost a year ago, but I watching your videos and picking out the one that would best suit me and my budget and this one is the one.
I have the Yamaha DGX-660 and I bought the Roland FP-30X because of one of your reviews. Everything you said about the Roland is true and I love it. The Yamaha is also a very good keyboard and I enjoy it. Both keyboards have their good points and features, and I am enjoying finding out what they are. Jeremy, your reviews are a big help, thank you!
First -- thanks for all the great review videos - probably the best produced and most informative unbiased videos on YT. After 2 years, I just moved up to the DGX670 from a Korg EK50 which you also recommended. Love the DGX670, but I really miss the Tempo Lock key and Spilt key on the EK50, so much so I wrote a message to Yamaha askng for a software update to include these features which I probably will never see. Keep up the great work. Guess I'm past due on the coffee. :)
I bought the Yamaha dgx 670 more than a year ago. As i am just a beginner at first i was overwhelmed by the features it has but now not so anymore. I have viewed many of your videos they are great i find them very helpful. Thank you.
I already buy a keyboard and allot of things related to it. Stand, cover, books, courses, recording interfaces, yet I still can't play so well. I need more time to practice :(
Same, but I use this philosophy: "I paid $1000.00 for the damn thing and books, so I'm going to learn to play it or be damned" 🤣 It works for me so far. And always play/practice 1 hour daily or play 30 mins, stand up, stretch, do sit-ups, grab a snack, sit again 30 mins. Before you notice time flies.
Great video, Jeremy! This is probably the best digital 88 key piano in that price range, at about half the price of favorite, the Roland RD 88 and the more expensive FP-90 that don't have the arranger functions. The next best without those functions would be the Alesis models, that has a more simple user interface, if that's what you want. I decided that the Casio CT-S1 is all I need and want to add to my 2 Rolands at this time. I have access to that Casio CDP-S350 at church for an 88 key piano. The Casio CT-S400 would be redundant if I got the CT-S1 and already have my Go:Keys. The PSR-E373 is a much better arranger keyboard, with easier to use interface and controls without having to dive into the menu like my Go:Keys. But maybe when I get to that point, I may get this, instead, or the RD 88 if I could. This is awesome fir what it is, but the RD 88 has incredible sounds, features and keyboard action. This has the piano room, that is great. Roland had something similar years ago i their virtual piano with their realistic Supernatural sound modeling. I think even my Fantom X6 and later Fantom workstation keyboards had the grand piano lid position feature. And the Roland upperine keyboards have super realistic horns and guitars, strings, et al. But Yamaha and the other top brands are up there, too. But the real winners are us, to have all these keyboards and gear available and prices much more affordable that years ago. The great selection, and you and the others to help us know all about them. But you always seem to be the best to address features and aspects others don't.
@@JeremySee If I had a pro keyboard rig, it would be the RD 88, V Combo VR-09 snd my JD-Xi. The Fantom 8 is incredible but more than I could ever use, but would be great fir production. It can do everything, including stuff the other brand top keyboards cannot.
Hi Jeremy. Seeing a lot of negative comments regarding the only live audio on the dgx670 being the 3.5mm Jack. As a simple very portable option, could a USB sound card dongle be plugged into the 670's USB Audio Interface to yield a extra analog audio out (built in vol too)? If so, you could provide an Amazon link. Thanks.
Thanks Jeremy for this wonderful video, I have recently bought this piano and I’m really happy with my decision. It’s sooo good! I just had one thing about this piano is that when I play sometimes the key release is too short I doubt that it’s cos of my pedal so I removed it and played again it’s the keys that has some issues. No idea 🤷🏻♂️ if I need to change any settings for that or it’s a faulty keyboard? Pls let me know.
Correct me if I am wrong, Jeremy, but I believe the 670 has a user setting to change the signal level of the headphone output to be line level instead. The DGX 660 has this ability. I wonder if there is another setting that would allow the output to be connected while also keeping the 670's onboard speakers active?
Is this still a winner, now that the P-225 is out ? I understand the P-225 will be more portable and harder to set (with smaller LCD screen). But sound-quality-wise, which one would be preferred, now ? Especially given that their price point here is extremely similar (less than 50 USD price difference).
Hi Jeremy, I like your reviews and this keyboard is really nice but it's little expensive for me. could you suggeste a keyboard have this futures in less price (and it's insignifiante it's fully weighted or semi weighted keys)
I would upgrade from the dgx660 to the 670, I would still use the stand from the 660. The YPG625 did fit. For the 680 they should combine the sounds of all the dgx and ypg 620-670. They should add a Bosendorfer Imperial, U3, P22 to the 680. Should they make 76 key keyboards that start on A instead of E?
Your link to "best price and info" bombed: Sweetwater does not have it in stock and Amazon displays all kinds of keyboards except for the DGX0-70! It seems like a hot item and hard to find. I'm in India right now for a few weeks, (need to continue my piano practice!) and put a deposit down, waiting for delivery in about two to three weeks, they said. I suspect that the worldwide chip shortage has caused delays. The Casio Privia seems like a great model too, with the Privia PX-560 and PX-780 seeming to be competitors to the DGX670.
Hi Jeremy would u recommend this to a beginner that wants to learn more on classical pieces and ballads.. seems like something that u can keep for awhile and grow with..
I like this keyboard,much simpler to use than much more expensive keyboards I’ve bought,I love the rhythm sections,it’s like jamming with a drummer and bassist,great feature.
Hello Jeremy! Three months ago I bought this piano with 500 dart 00 dollars. I like very much this piano, every style comes with four different variations, a intro and a ending. For example, if I tap the simple button, it sounds like I’m playing with a drummer and a bassist. Thank you so much for your reviews!
La serie DGX tiene un defecto electrónico de fabrica suelen averiarse al poco tiempo siempre por la misma avería.Yamaha tiene buen sonido pero muy mala electrónica
I have a psr-295 and I wanted to upgrade in the near future to something like it with weighted keys, is it a goos choice? Also, I wanted to know if it has an arpeggiator/harmony function like my psr (I only use the trem 1/4 and 1/8).
thank you for making these outstanding videos! What would you recommend for live performance DHX 670 or PSR SX700. It would be for solo shows making use of backing tracks, which I've never used.
Hello.it’s Adam here, and I am blind, and I bought a Yamaha Genos a long time ago.then I heard about voice guide, that you can download from Yamaha‘s website, but when I tried it and went in to the deeper menus, like when I create a style or going into the mixer, the voice guide was just silent. The cvp-805 and the psrsx900 have it, but you can download the voice guide for the Ginos here download.yamaha.com/files/tcm:39-1303044/ Can you please try it on your Yamaha Ginos, or try it on the other keyboard that I listed.you can click the direct link for Yamaha Genos, but you can just google on the other models that I listed. When you have downloaded the file correctly, open the file, and select The file called eng copy it, and paste it onto a flash drive, and then stick that into the keyboard. When you go down deep into the menus, or when you choose a menu item, like the mixer or the song creator, it doesn’t speak period I want to use The keyboard like everyone, but I can use my smart phone because it has speech functionality, in every single app like RU-vid, Skype, mail, and so on.you can enable it on any smart phone, and there is no software or special download needed.but the voice guide is extremely limited, I mean, come on Yamaha! Dot I am in desperate need of a Yamaha keyboard, like the Ginos, with speech functionality, so I can create my own songs and styles and make my own compositions.I don’t have any keyboard, but My dad bought the DGX 650 when I was seven, and I loved playing around with the styles and the sounds, but five years after that, I was getting bored and started with logic and GarageBand, but after two years, it wasn’t my thing, but then I saw Yamaha Ginos with voice guide, and since I’ve worked with music for a long time, it was quite easy with the voice guide to manoeuvre, but when I went deep into the menus, it stopped.I’m nearly giving up, because no music stores that I’ve called good answer me, but there is a site called PSR forums, when they discuss that. When I called Bonners music, they said that voice guide was available, but they didn’t know how it worked.I am in desperate need of an answer, for a person that knows about the voice guide.I think the Jeremy see doesn’t know much about it, but you can try it on your Yamaha Ginos, and see for yourself.is there any other keyboard with voice guide? Greetings, Adam.
Have decided on this after much research as I compose music and used to mixing etc and appreciate having this without internet if I was somewhere I didn't have it etc but also all the other features can u show how u would print notation that is created when composing and talk about the use of Bluetooth related to options to use it I will be getting this wed. Glad to have made a decision ..
I just played one today at the piano store. I was there to buy a Roland and whike waiting I tried this piano and was stopped in my tracks by the absolutely incredible sound quality