4-Strokes are better than 2-Strokes... 

So what I'm hearing from this video is that 2 strokes are more challenging and fun to ride. Got it!

2strokes... all day ...every day...#2strokes4life...

I agree with almost everything with one exception. Moto is easier on a four stroke but tight single track fun stuff is much easier on a two stroke. Also two strokes are way more fun and feel lighter and more nimble than a four stroke.

Two strokes are a lot cheaper to maintain. The skills to do Maintance, what change, piston and rings and put jets in a carburetor are always 10 times more easier than how to adjust the valves on a four stroke. A lot of people don’t live in California, where there seems to be twice as many race shops and dealers, so you have to do a lot of the work yourself. In my opinion, two strokes are cheaper to purchase easier to work on and maintain.

I bought my first dirtbike (used) rode it for 50 ft then tore the entire thing apart for a COMPLETE rebuild. Never took a bike apart before. Would not have attempted that on a 4T. Being able to wrench on your own bike as a new rider was pretty sweet.

Moto and wide open enduro yes. Tight single track and hard enduro 2T all day. Love my 23 TBI it’s like a combo of both.

I’ll agree that humans tend to take the easier rout to achieve the same result, given that’s the most logical path to achieve “success” but I think putting in the work to become fast on a 2 stroke will take you to a whole new skill level on a 4 stroke and make you a much better rider.

450’s had a serious advantage in displacement over the 250 2 strokes in motocross. In Enduro the vast majority of riders are on 2 strokes.

I’m on the fence with this one. I’ve got a Husq 250 2 stroke and a KTM 450 4 stroke. KTM 450 4 stroke: Feels so much heavier but has more predictable power delivery and I prefer the exhaust note. Husq 250 2 stroke: So much lighter feel and power delivery can surprise me. But the 2 stroke requires so much more engagement and can feel more rewarding and exhausting at the same time. Pick ur poison …...

I like riding four strokes too, when they are running well. Trouble is, I have never had much money to spend, and I keep coming back to the two strokes. Having to get the valves and associated wear items done is just too expensive. Two stoke i can do myself, without mucking it up. So while riding four strokes is easier, living with them isn't.

I make my ownership of a 2 stroke as a replacement for my personality and this video deeply offends me.

4stroke guys = ”I love dirt bikes! 2t is fun but I prefer 4t ✌️” 2stroke guys = ”my 2t rips f#@k 4t 🤟👿”

Hi Jay, i ride trails in the colorado rockies and right now i have a ‘21 yz 450fx, but i’d prefer honda still make the CR500. Those were the best bikes i ever owned. Easy maintenance and absolutely bullet proof. To each his own. 👍

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A 150cc 2 stroke is fun, a 150cc 4 stroke is lame.

For older riders sure

Owned two stokes all my life, two months ago bought my first four stroke. Mostly I ride enduro trails, still getting used to the four stoke but overall it is so much forgiving than my two stoke. Nowadays I ran the two stroke when riding alone or in small groups, and take the four stoke when ridding in larger groups.

I have both! My 450 is a lot easier to ride on the local track, however it is super fun to shred the 125 on some tight woods stuff!

I agree easier to ride and easier to go faster on a 4stroke. But 2 strokes seem to just last forever and are so cheap and simple to wrench on. And honestly people talk about how hard it is to tune a 2 stroke. All the years I’ve ridden two stroke since the early 90s I’ve hardly ever had to mess with jetting. More or less cleaning the carb out from sitting is what gets you.

Can't believe you went there, but agree 100% I grew up racing 2 strokes. Since I've went with 4 strokes as an old man now, the keys is the new developments. These new 4T are out of this world. Miss the ease of rebuilding a 2T, but that's about it these days.

Well it's both easier and faster to eat food with a spoon as well. Doesn't mean it makes my meal more enjoyable.

2 strokes for ever

Everything you said is correct. However, keep in mind that 25 years of RD has gone into 4 strokes. Just take a moment and think about 25 years of RD going into 2 strokes. You would probably be looking at a CR250 making 60hp and weighing 195lbs.

I recently started learning how to ride at the track and been having a few good days! I rode in the dessert for a while and chose a 2013 sx125 for the track and I love it way more than the 250f.

Everyone is going to have their own opinion on this, and to each their own. But, I will play devils advocate on many of these opinions.... Carbureted? If we're going to compare for the sake of buying a new bike, new 2-strokes are EFI as well. Although, many still prefer carb's due to the simplicity and reliability. Vibration? Any post-2017 counter-balanced KTM-based 2-stroke is smoother than a majority of the thumpers and fatigue riders less. Ease of riding? Corner on a 4-stroke, and then the exact same corner on the 2-stroke. The 4-stroke, even if the same weight, will always feel heavier due the abundance of parts rotating, causing the engines to act as huge gyroscopes and requiring more energy to turn and lean the bikes over. Maintenance....2-strokes win there as well...no valve shimming, no stretching came chains, no multiple oil filters. Technology...both have throttle mapping, both have EFI...sort of the bust there. Cost...2-strokes are less to purchase, and less to maintain. Ease of riding...sort of comes to tuning. If you throw a new riding on a 450 or 300....both will hurt. Both can be tuned to be "easier" the ride. I will say that you can be generally "lazier" on the thumper due to the torque. In the end, each person have their preference. I learned on 2-strokes, but changed to thumpers when the 250F's started becoming popular, then a few 450s and 350s. But, after switching to primary off-road riding, I've gone back to 2-strokes and don't think I'll be riding another thumper off road for the reasons above. These 300 zingers just can't be beat. Ride on everyone!

Nothing replaces a 250 2stroke

I'd rather be scared to death on a two stroke than bored to death on a four stroke.

Definitely for a do it all bike, more torque, or shifting less. The rest is kinda subjective. Ride both 2 & 4 stroke. Just don't get a electric (E🤮V) one ,unless you already have a dress & a boyfriend & have gone down that woke degenerate path.

I have ridden 450s and 250 2 strokes my whole career I stopped riding for 2 years, last year I purchased a new rmz250 and it has made me fall in love with the sport again. I’m mostly Moto but for a vet rider the 250-350 4 strokes are so so good. I’ll ride 250fs for the rest of my riding. It’s so predictable.

35+ years of riding and racing and I have never owned a 4t, but I really think my next bike will be a 350f

You’re losing subscribers every second this thumbnail stays up. You will never financially recover from this.

If your not rich a 4 stroke is way more expensive to do a new top end on compared to a 2 stroke.

Oh no! Jay has come out of the closet.

i’ll never buy another 4 stroke again ON GOD

All 2 strokes matter!

I know this is controversial but most dudes would be better off on a 4-stroke 250 or 350

2 stroke vs 4 stroke separates the boys from men

Okay. A quad is easier to ride than a bike so I'm switching.

I still think 2strokes take more ability to ride. The power band of any 2 stroke is harder to tame. Saying 4strokes are better just because you have less abilty, doesnt really make any sense. Just say you are a less experinced rider so you prefer a 4stroke over 2

Wow I need to move, you hhave incredible riding areas!! What state you in?

Keep your 4 Stokes,Love the two Strokes by Far ,an more fun to ride..

Depends what terrain. On a sandy track give me a 450, on hardpack give me my 300xc which has a pleasant power delivery compared to any moto based two stroke.

Iv had both modern 4t and 2t my tpi I wish was carbed so bad I can't stand it its literally forsell even after tsp irk and everything it is a awesome bike but honestly I just want a carbed 2 stroke for my main bike I do love my kx250x but 2t is way cheaper to maintain way cheaper to upgrade and way easier to work on at home imo

I love my old kdx 250....can keep up with 450.. kinda keep up with ktm two stroke 300.. and love seeing what nuts or bolts I lost after the ride. Next bike TM EN 300 carb

This is true. I ride a CR125 and it is really fun but I would like to buy a YZ250F because it is so much more powerful and easier to ride. I have to stay on the pipe with the 125 but I know I will be a better rider for riding it.

I strictly rode four strokes for most of my life and then recently got a 95 KTM 300 exc and I'm considerably faster in the woods on that bike even with an old chasis and suspension. On a moto track I suck regardless cause i haven't had much opportunity to ride moto but I'd probably be better on a four stroke but with the less engine braking, lighter weight, and lug ability of the 300 I'm night and day faster on tight trails and technical enduro stuff on a two stroke and thats mostly what i ride.

2 strokes are better!!! Easier to maintain cheaper an way more fun !!!

Crazy talk!!!!! Riding dirt bikes is all about the fun factor. Nothing is as fun as a 125, 250 or 300 two stroke on the pipe!

Two-stroke engines were phased out by tough pollution laws and fuel economy targets, but they could be making a comeback with KTM, Honda and boutique builders. KTM and Honda have both registered patents for direct-injection two-stroke engines

In what universe?

I for the most part will never touch a track, i have 50 square miles of state forest to explore. 2stroke for me...

Drop the 4 stroke front leaning downhill in a woods hillclimb... try to pick it up.. Get back to me when some friends find ya and help ya out. Just got a sherco250 2x. Couldn't be happier for tight single track riding. There is a reason all the European enduro Champs ride 300s..

TPI GASGAS for me!

This whole video feels like a troll post. Two strokes dominate off the track. They do fine on the track. However…These “advantages” you talk about, you did touch on this point: Two strokes have basically stopped development since the early two thousands. You only have a near 23 year tech advantage. But you know what? You still need double the displacement size to do what a much lighter and simpler system can do. I would tell you the opposite. You want a motorcycle that can do both? A jack of all trades? Get a 2 stroke KTM XC model.

4 stroke is a political agenda, 2 stroke is freedom and fun.

Get ready for the hate mail lol

4 strokes are better at maximizing profit for manufacturers

Im keen to try. So how do I put 2 extra strokes on my 19 Husky 300i?

Ok but I know for a fact you are not gonna want to ride a 125 four stroke. 👇🏽 2 stroke gang!

I’ve been trying to find a blown up 12-15 CRF250. I ride and race a 97 cr250 and would like a thumper to throw around in the woods with my trail riding buddies.

It depends which one you pick they are the same as good i dont like loud stuff or gas smell so i like 4 stroke it does not matter

Yep. Ridden both. 4t are easier to ride. I might switch if I get a permanent injury, get massively out of shape or they're still sold when I get old.

Good comparison, a lot of clutching at straws there.😝 You’re right though, what’s not so great about two strokes makes four strokes just better from an engineering/physics perspective. If I rationally had to chose to have just one bike it would be a 350XC-F… but there’s nothing rational about riding two strokes. The zing, the ping, the smell. 😍 My 23 300SX is the best KTM yet and I’d bet the 300XC is the best all round bike ever. You either do let you don’t, the four strokes are no longer the ticking time bombs they once were… but it’s a way of life either way. Keep it stinky FTW!🤘😝

If you have money,4 stroke. If you wanna have money 2stroke.

I had my 23’ ktm 125 tuned, TPI tuning did it and it is awesome! Sure, I couldn’t tune it myself, but I’m very happy with it.

2 stroke is much easier for enduro and hard enduro and difficult terrain, lower cost lighter more fun

I love both. But modern 4 strokes are better for serious riding/racing.

4 strokes are literally no more reliable than 2 strokes are. Further more, they cost much more to repair

On average a 4 stroke cyl head alone costs 3 times more to buy & ebuild than any average 2 stroke complete motor. It's why I built a CRF150RB w a CR125 motor for my son. Lighter faster cheaper no valves to check & won't punch rods through cases

Its simple really if 4 strokes are so bloody good why are they still cheating????

Maybe when im 60 i will ride 4t

It's not about being easy it's about having fun and showing your better by riding a harder to ride bike

2 stroke every day all day !! Especially for woods riding!

Here’s a point if 4 strokes are perfect like you say . I don’t see the top Hard Enduro riders like Bolt riding a 4 stroke at erzberg or Romaniacs or at any venue they race

Two strokes rule! 💪. Four stroke “race bikes” are just a bad idea. Way too complicated and too heavy! Dirt bikes are not suppose to sound like lawn mowers😂!!

Yes I agree because I also ride a 4 stroke.

If they ever let 250 two strokes race against the 250 fours there won’t be anymore debate. Four strokes are the motocross version of “equity and inclusion” so that’s a big fat nah for me.

4 months ago you guys said 2 strokes are better lmao

It cost me more for 1 rebuild of 4 stroke than every rebuild of the 1990's.

I ride and enjoy both 2 and 4 strokes. Who gives a shit what you ride, just Ride ! Why dudes worry about what another dude rides is beyond me.

Rieju 300 (6 days) for an all around great time. For 6 days of pure fun.

Ive just bought my 1st ever bike and its a husky fe250 so i hope they are easier to ride 😅

You sound like those locos that are trying to push EV's on everyone!!! BRRAAAPPPP FOREVER!!!!!

I switched to 4 over 2 years ago for enduro. When I ride 2 strokes now they seem small and silly and the power peaks out to early.

4 strokes are the best bikes ever for beginners, novices and family ride events. Those with top physical condition who can keep the 2 stroke pinned with no lazy riding 4 stroke habits, you'll have the win every time, Just rebuilt my 2 stroke. New jug, top end lectron carb, $2,000. You could buy a new 2 stroke for the cost of replacing just the jug and valve train on 4 strokes. Absolutely ridiculous,. MG KTM also has great bikes as long as your not concerned with money, maintenance and time. KTM makes lots of money pushing the 4 stroke narrative, warehouses full of replacement parts.

I still ride my two stroke more 😊

I own fifteen bikes, and fourteen are two smokes!! Guess what I like more!!

More stuff to break too on a 4 stroke 😂😂

We are just going to have to agree to disagree Jay. 4 T are much easier, but 2T are so much more fun. Ride a 4T on a tight single track vs. a 2T. You might come to your senses.😂

For the cc the 2 stroke will win every time it should be 250 2 strokes vs 250 4 strokes

2 smoke is for real mens. Anyone drives a 4 stroke

I like em both I’m gheyyyy

I have a yamaha rxz 135 cc. Fun to ride♥️♥️

4t lug up the hills, my happy place ridding. Most of my ride on the 4t in the desert I can short shift, keep the chassis calm and chug across long varied terrain faster and in more control.

2021 300 ktm xc ...coming off a 450 four .... So much more fun for me!

Spot on 👌👌

Coming from a 200MXC to a CRF450R I sure miss the 2 stoke Machine vs the 4 stroke I'm new to the 4 stroke dirtbike I have some getting use to 😅

4 jokes suck, Not easier to ride at all. Engine braking adds a LOT of work to the ride. 2 strokes are MUCH smoother and it is easy to control the power. 4 stroke race bikes ONLY exist because of government control regulations. If it were not for the gov. we would have much much more advanced 2 stroke motors, i.e. power valves top and bottom of the ports, direct injection without premix OR injection pumps, etc.

I don’t agree with this I love my 4 stroke wr250f but the kind of riding we do the 2 stroke is better and faster in the technical woods single track stuff .

Perfect ! Now all the girls are going to go out and get 4-strokes! 😋 Honestly, I choose to ride a 2-stroke (YZ250) because it does indeed take more skill, and when you do it right, its more fun. If I was going to race Moto seriously, I'd prolly race a 250F...and hate every minute of it 🤣 JK Braaap!