The fact that Samantha was working alone is a travesty. Anyone working at night should have at least one other person with them. My heart absolutely breaks for what happened to her.
I live here and it’s actually very common for people to work at those stands at night. It also wasn’t as late as it looks. It was winter time in Alaska it gets dark around 3 pm.
The sickest part about her story is you can tell she was gone in that ransom picture that sick fuck took smh not just from her face and neck, her hands are in rigor mortis/cadaveric spasm. I know the police probably noticed right off. I know that was probably the hardest part to break to the family
Killing someone because of embarrassment or shame isn’t justifiable, but it happens all the time. The show was wrong for blindsiding someone like that. They knew exactly what they were doing and should’ve been forced to pay.
To an extent, yeah. But Idk how reasonable it is to believe that anyone, including _Jenny Jones Show_ production staff, could've realised that someone could possibly have such an utterly ridiculous, batshit reaction. [Unless they'd actually been warned ahead of it all, that Mr. Weirdo the Homophobe might be a murderous psychopath...]
@@DarkRyeOrganic_Au I agree that they could not foresee his murderous overreaction. But any time you make someone else the butt of a joke or prank - and that’s what this was, something for the audience to laugh at - you become partially responsible if it goes bad.
He unfroze her, applied make up to her face so he could take a picture and make it seem like she was still alive... That's so freaking sick. That is just unbelievable.
I know and like I wonder if he A. Went out and bought the makeup B. Had it on hand for whatever reason C. USED HIS GFS MAKEUP WITHOUT HER KNOWLEDGE OMG
That tiny coffee shop looks like a death trap. And it looks like it’s in the middle of a empty parking lot. Not safe for any women. She shouldn’t even have been working alone at all.
@@jo7524 exactly!!! I’m surprised she felt safe enough working there. I left a job at a gas station because they wanted me working along at night with the doors open. Naw
@@ladydede88 HELLLLL NO. But see, maybe you're from a not so proper area. Our surroundings have us aware of these dangers. She probably thought she had nothing to worry about, poor thing.
@@ladydede88 where I live, no one working at the gas stations in my immediate area can work alone at night due to the amount of crimes committed at gas stations in our area at night when only one person works. But since they're short staffed, there's not enough people to make sure two people are available every night, so they're closed quite often. Pisses a lot of people off but I'd rather them be closed than someone get targeted and hurt for doing their job.
Well you sure missed the whole childhood and Jenny jones show plus poking the bear with a stick by leaving a homosexual note to a guy that repeatedly said no...
@Christy B someone else seemed to have missed a lot as well. You see 0 to 100 quickly only because of the way it was said in the video, not how history and lapse of time play a role
Of the cases that petrify me: Israel Keyes is one of the ones who scares me the most. I can’t even imagine how his daughter feels. If she was 10 in 2012, she’d be 22 now, just a few years older than Samantha. I can’t even imagine how both young women feel. How Samantha fought for her life. How he went on vacation while she lie dead in the shed while he was with his daughter...it blows my mind
@@dalriadajohannsen I remember it happening as a kid. Still blows my mind that her and her show took no accountability in Scotts death and honestly I was happy to get something from Lutch. This was one of my fav channels before ad apocalypse or whatever
The Samantha Koenig messes me up when I think about. That picture with her with a newspaper…was her deceased the entire time. It’s messed up on all levels and I’m glad the monster was caught.
Isreal Keyes was an absolute monster! I never heard of him before this. I can't believe he unfroze her body, did her make up and sewed her eyes open to make her look alive for a photo. That is a real psychopath! The fact that he had a daughter of his own is even more disturbing, like how could this person get like this?
When people are driving they need to be mature enough to leave their phones alone. It only takes a minute to pull over to check the phone if it's an immediate need. I had one friend who I repeatedly told not to text while she was driving and she kept doing it anyway and caused a wreck.
Ok but she told her friend at 2 something (a.m.) that she was 5 mins away from her house. But she proceeded to go to 2 other friends houses?! I know this 1 was an accident but do wonder why she said that to her friend….
I’m at 18:00 minutes in and seeing the way the little boy ran hand in hand with the other man, and the way they ran around the other guy and automatically reached out for each other again makes me think they are comfortable with each other and know each other.
That first one was wild. Johnathon shouldn’t have killed him but dammit Scott he told you no and tried his hardest to not hurt your feelings or embarrass you on National tv while telling you no. You should’ve left him alone
In the trial it was mentioned that they may have had a sexual relationship due to the invitation to drinks after the filming and other things we may never know. Its possible John was sending mixed signals to Scott and snapped after getting a note. John shouldve gotten a restraining order, not shoot scott.
@K M 1st you got them mixed up scotts the gay one and johns the straight one and 2nd he they didnt say it was justified they clearly stated in the beginning that johnathan SHOULDN'T have killed him. your changing their words to make them look baf
Yep! *"NO!"* is a full sentence. That suggestive note seemed to tip Jonathan over the edge, probably why he was paroled after 22yrs. Jonathan went looking for Scott to kill him, ordinarily that would mean a life/no parole sentence. What he should have done is file a protective order against Scott though, not kill him! Scott was the ultimate victim here, he lost his life, but I can't help thinking that leaving that note was very ill-thought out though, Scott should have just leave Jonathan be after he got a public brush off on Jenny Jones show.
What made the producers and Jenny Jones think that was "good tv" ? Some straight men aren't comfortable with a gay man pursuing them. Not to mention, that episode was broadcasted worldwide 😖 It seems as though the gay man was sexually harassing him.. It doesn't warrant his death but people need to be careful about how they approach others. Never know someone's mental status or what childhood trauma a person has been suffering through
Right also not trying to blame Scott but if he rejected him the least he could do Is stop trying to presue him and stop sending him nasty letters that are sexual
Certain gays and lesbians are radical and thinks they can turn any straight person bi or gay. In reality you can't for the most part. People doesn't like it, when certain people tries to dictate to others on who to date. People should let others live their own life and leave people alone after the first rejection. And everyone deserves to date who they want. I'm not saying Scott deserved to die, but he should of taken no for an answer. Radicals, comes in all forms. And those 2 guys were proof. And I don't know why people goes on those types of shows when they know they will get embarrassed. Some people makes a profit out of embarrassing people, and Jenny Jones was a good example.
@@hellomikie92 True! There's no way I would be a guest on a talk show. Those types of shows intentions are never good. Gay or straight, everybody isn't going to find you appealing. Most sane people arent going to force themselves on another person.. Rejection is temporarily embarrassing but death is permanent.
I live in Alaska and everyone here followed the Samantha Koenig case pretty closely. When the word got out about her killer it was everywhere. Nutty stuff.
Why didn't the guys in number 2 get charged with child endangerment? I was waiting to hear it in the charges list and they didn't mention it and honestly I'm a little upset. They brought that child to the disposal of his own parents then left him alone on a random porch. Child endangerment should have been one of the top charges....
this is the first time i’ve heard that scott detailed a sexual fantasy with jonathan. obviously nothing makes his actions okay but it makes a lot more sense now. i thought scott was killed after just saying he liked jonathan
Yeah, I remember watching JJ show live over 20yrs ago, then hearing her testimony in court..JJ didn't pull the trigger but her show definitely set him up which caused him to lose it.
Do you know what makes his actions not only ok but irrational? That he will end up in jail along with the converted bi guys (because no women) having gay sex against his will. Like you kill a gay guy because of sexual harassment to end up in jail so you get harassed even more?
@@Mariet31 haha great point. And jesus christ, the guy is an adult. I understand feeling embarrassed, but if your next thought is to kill someone you dont belong in society
That last one is messed up! Erica spent all day cooking and all night into the next day delivering food! She was probably exhausted on top of driving while texting the last friend she was with, damn that’s sad!
I remember I was driving home after a 17 hour shift last night and these 2 cars flipped in front of me and basically flew right over me or at least that's what it felt like. Everyone was okay but i remember thinking I'd be pissed to die like that lol. Don't let me die after a long ass shift.
Yea but she left that friends house at 245am, she was then seen at 422am driving. So where did she go in between leaving her friends and 420am where she crashed her car? Her friend was probably texting her around 3am or a little after. Maybe she went to another friends house for a bit but in the middle of the night?
@@ptrekboxbreaks5198 She texted at 3:05 and she Said she was almost home but at the end of the video it says she went to another friends house and left there at 4:05 so she lied about going home.
@@sflo985 Ikr, that's just sad. I would have kept it and had leftovers for days. Those people didn't think enough of you to attend so why even bother?!? I wonder how bad they all feel now? A part of me thought she did it on purpose (suicide) because why do all that food delivery, then go over other people's house so late, then lie to your daughter about almost being home?!? You never know what's going on in someone's mind...
That Erica Hernandez story: imagine the irony of texting your friend to make sure they get home safely only to be the one distracting them from driving. I would not be surprised if Erica's accident occured at the same time she sent her final text. Little tip for the overly concerned friends out there: If you know someone is on their way somewhere, don't call or text them until enough time has passed for them to make it to their destination + 15 mins for safe measure.
@@anthonyhutchins2300 completely agree. With this guys logic if I crash from looking at a text from someone random they’re at fault. Also nothing “overly concerning” about wondering if your friends made it home safe
@@anthonyhutchins2300 It is, but people are stupid so this is a smart way to account for that stupidity. If you don't offer them a tempting reason to make a bad decision then they won't make that bad decision, even if you think they'll be smart enough to just wait to check the message. It also doesn't even make sense to send it earlier if your intention is to get a reply later, you could just send it later for the exact same outcome without any chance of being a distracting influence.
With the last story, I wonder if her being on her phone texting her friend is what caused her to crash. It was also super late/early in the morning, so she could have also just been tired. But if it was caused from texting, I cant imagine how the friend feels, if she feels like it was partly her fault.
I just don't think it's responsible of someone to be out visiting people at that ungodly hours of the morning. When I was in college I used to party until 5am but now as I grown man I don't want to be out past 10PM at night. I want to be in the safety of my own home. Visiting friends and family is for daylight hours.
@Giuliano Matrix Yes trust your guts, I knew this chick in high school who was overly happy and always smiling. She would literally skip in happiness, you never see ppl skip lol. She was also a compulsive liar my sister was friends with her but she disliked her cuz she felt she was a liar. Fast forward 6 or so years later she ends up killing her two children smothering them to death with a pillow and then getting her husband's samurai sword and slashing and stabbing him over a hundred times while he lay in bed. She then got dolled up and went out on a date with an old fling from high school who she reconnected with online and had a fun night out with friends. The next day she calls 911 and says someone broke in and killed everyone. The police quickly figured out she was lying and arrested her. She is now on Deth Row or dead atm I dunno but yeah don't trust them too-perfect and super happy ppl they will kill you.
Case #2is craziest serial killer story I've heard. He literally put makeup on her dead body took a photo of her dead for ransom money. He had kill kits all over the country. Poor Samantha
Not only did they tell Jonathan it was a woman who was the secret crush- they let him think it was his ex wife, who he still loved and was desperately hoping would get back together with him. He’d been trying to win her back during that time, so he really thought it was her. And he made a point to tell them that he was really shy and he absolutely did not want to be a part of anything crazy like a guy being the secret crush. He was humiliated but not for the reasons people try to say. He wasn’t homophobic, he was broken. He was friends with Scott. This wasn’t a man who hated gay people. This was someone who was incredibly shy and vulnerable, who lost the love of his life and was depressed and lonely, got excited when the producers led him to believe she was the one with the crush, he even bought like a new suit, planned a whole night and day with her for after the show, only to be crushed even more and humiliated. Then the note after the fact was the final straw. I’m not condoning or supporting his actions. But I don’t think people realize how broken he was. He called 911. Turned himself in. He was broken.
That's why stupid Jenny idiot show should had been more clear about the situation before actually showing and embarrasse the person..let them choose what they want to do.
Mr. Ballen does a video on Samantha that explains the case... Hes got a gift for telling a story that keeps you engaged and keeps you thinking about it long after the video is over and helps keep the cases in mind so these victims arent forgotten
@@megiab Hes the first one to say if something isnt right let him know... A lot of thr cases he covers dont have a lot of info and is filled with supposition or personal thoughts or what other peoples theory's are... He wants the facts to be as correvt ad they can be sometimes the info just isnt there for it but he thinks its something people should kniw about
@@Homemaker-eg2he Yes, and the comments are filled with corrections with citations that he never acknowledges. I subscribe and enjoy his channel, just saying pointing to his storytelling channel for additional information on any specific case can be problematic.
The last case is a tragedy 😢 very sad story, I don't know if she was texting while was driving. , why she didn't dropped the food in the morning when sun lights up, Rest in peace Erica 😔
@@EdmundKempersDartboard dude chill. You might as well say that on all the other comments talking about the last case. Just because they didn’t mention the other cases, doesn’t mean they don’t care about the other people who died. Hell people die everyday. I guess he should have commented on everybody who has ever died then…y’all get butt hurt for no reason…
I have Graves Disease and I can tell you “graves rage” is a real thing. You have no control over your emotions there’s times I’ve been very scared I was gonna hurt someone or myself. Not saying killing someone is ok but I certainly understand how you can get to that point without control. Your thyroid controls literally everything in your body and can turn you into a completely different person.
@@ty.1357 believe it or not they have made zero advancements when it comes to treating thyroid disease’s. You can take something to try and maintain a normal level but that drug can lead to liver disease. Or you can remove your thyroid and be on hormone replacement. Either way you are on medication for life there’s no cure and no easy fix. Unfortunately. 😢 maybe one day someone will discover the cure.
Wow I had NO idea ur thyroid plays that much of a “job” in ur body! I was today years old finding this out! Thank u for informing ppl who may not know this!
Wow really?! I feel so dumb, I was completely unfamiliar with that I’ve never heard it with the side effects on your emotions before, will definitely be looking into it. I’m sorry you’re going through that and I hope you’re able to live peacefully one day 💕
I’m so sick of seeing this comment on every channel that takes a break, y’all need some originality or at least need to not pick the same damn line everyone & their mom uses.
#2- So glad they didn't kill that little boy #1- Sadly, to me this one seems like she crashed while trying to text that she was 5 minutes away from home. I know it's worrisome having someone driving home late, but don't constantly text them asking if they're okay bc they'll probably try to text back. Stay on the phone through the speakers or wait until you're actually safe to text someone that you're safe.
After the show, Scott was continuously flirting with Johnathan, who was adamant that he was straight. He and that woman he was with on the show, even started a rumor that they went out for drinks after the taping and they all had sex (or Scott and Jonathan did, I can’t remember exactly) and when they got home, 3 days after the taping, Scott left a note with sexual innuendos that just caused Jonathan to lose it. He didn’t want to be harassed about his sexuality especially with whatever Scott and that woman had lied and said happened while they were in Chicago for the show. I’m not saying what Jonathan did was right or that Scott deserved it, but you can only push a man so far when he’s about to be shown on national television with a guy who has a crush on him and was now continuing to cheekily try and sleep with him. Truly don’t think he should’ve won a lawsuit against Jenny Jones or the production, they didn’t push Scott to flirt or write a suggestive note to Jonathan, and they didn’t force Jonathan to do anything sexually with Scott - they simply joked about the surprise of who had a crush on who, that’s the whole point of the show.
You have got to look at it the context of a woman wanting another woman who doesn't want to know about it. Think of it like that. Would you be happy then for another woman to do that to you on national TV when you're not that way inclined. Just saying.
@@themadhatter4246 women tend not to be as upset when someone of the same sex expresses sexual interest. There’s something about it emasculating men that tips them into anger.
@@edgaralanfrog Uh, men do actually do that kind of thing to women, like all the time. Aggressive pursuit coupled with a few lies (although usually to coworkers or friends rather than an entire nation) isn't uncommon at all, obviously not every man is going to do that but enough have that if they all got shot for it tomorrow it would wreck international infrastructure for a good while as the population dipped. He was "pushed" but only barely, definitely enough to provoke an argument but not even enough to warrant a punch left alone two gunshots.
@@TheSquareOnes I wasn’t saying anything about women, I was just stating what happened and why some bigoted people would read about the week that led up to Scott being murdered; it didn’t even take much to get him killed. Jonathan was raised in the church and was afraid of being seen as a gay man, especially to his father and he had to eliminate the cause. That’s all. The tv show and flirting would’ve bugged me, the note too, but I don’t think I’d kill someone for it. The very thought of having his family and neighbors think he was gay broke him, and it’s ridiculous that he went straight to murdering him. Why not just beat him up?
If she really did put all her time into making videos this channel would be the best on RU-vid no doubt. But maybe she has other interest or hobbies. We don't know her life. I'm just thankful she makes any content at all. Stay Blessed LutchGreen
I like the content and she's alright but the endings are abrupt to me. Mr Ballen is alright as well but he repeats himself soooo much that I stopped watching them. Not sure if he tries to fill in time but it's just too much for me lol.
How didn't Keye's neighbours or he's partner not hear anything from the shed ? Playing loud music wouldn't have drowned out all her cries for help or incessant banging . Very strange ?
@@cpi3267 what about when Keyes was away doing contract carpenter work then ? You're telling me his neighbours wouldn't hear incessant screaming . He wouldn't have music blaring 24/7 that would be wayyy too suspicious.
@@David_Quinn_Photography he must've killed her quite early on . Otherwise she'd be impossible to keep quiet , that'll be my guess too. They'd be no way Keye's partner wouldn't have heard anything or his daughter over a longer time period . Absolutely not . Also Keye's wouldn't have risked her escaping especially if had trouble with previous victims who fought back and almost escaped .
@@HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022 he was ill-minded not stupid so he probably forged that story then was honest about some cache points he made to make it somewhat believable. and I'm actually a little mad he was able to kill himself.
The total incompetence on the Samantha case is outrageous. He had her cell phone the entire time and was texting from it. Not once did anyone think to ping her cell phone?! 🙄 😡
I feel badly for Erica Hernandez also but why do you think she HAD TO deliver food in the middle of the night???? Three, four a.m. Why do it at those hours? It makes so little sense to me. Because yes, of course, it makes a HUGE difference. Those are generally extremely unsafe times to be out doing stuff alone. She must have enough freedom/free time to feel she can visit people at those hours Ya know? Didn't sound like she had to wake up early or anything. And she was probably a very kind woman. I just wish she did things at normal hours. Again, it is silly and dangerous. I thought she was bumped off the road and murdered. Because that happens and it happens at those hours!
@@shaneculkin7124 the texting could have not happened either if it was in daylight I'm guessing since it was to make sure she made it back. I think that's what could have distracted her?
@@shaneculkin7124 Are you seriously going to say that driving at night is basically asking for a car crash? Driving at night is not dangerous at all so long as you're looking at the road. She wasn't looking. Use some sense before you talk.
@@TailsClock it’s not dangerous, I had a night shift job for years,but was always rested beforehand, she on the other hand, had been cooking all day with her family and Then decided to deliver food at ungodly hours at night to other friends and family that didn’t go over. She was tired and we don’t know if she had a little to drink while making food (when my family gets together we do cause it’s a normal little get together) So it could also make someone sleepy. HOWEVER I’m pretty sure it was the texting that did it, only takes a second of not paying attention to end in disaster.
Poor Samantha. I wouldn't have been working in that tiny stand alone to begin with but I'm sure she wasn't worried. Don't get in a car. We go over this as a family, a drill, if you will. NEVER get in a car. Ever. Make them shoot you where you stand because if you go, you die anyway. Scream, run, make as much commotion as possible. It's risky, yes. But there's a good chance they won't be expecting it and will run away. If you go, though, there's an even better chance you're going to die.
You’re right, if you’re taken to a secondary position your chance of survival drops to 20%, if they want to take you chances are they want to kill you so fight then and there. Don’t scream unless you know people are near by you’ll waste vital energy you could use in more important ways. Fully comply or fully resist.
That Jenny Jones thing was f***** up. I was about 17 when that happened. So many things went wrong........The Scott guy shouldn't have left a sexual note for someone that already told him he wasn't interested and definitely wasn't homosexual, and Schmitz could have handled it differently........I'm sure both of them would have chosen a fight, threats.....almost anything else.
If he respected heterosexual men’s orientation, he would be alive today. A lot of people in that community get assaulted and killed, for doing crap like that.
@@renny3816 If the other guy wasn't such a deranged homophobe that he'd murder over a bit of aggressive flirting Scott would also be alive today. Interesting how you chose to frame that, might be something to reflect on. It's worth pointing out that it's common for straight men to pressure straight women to a similar degree, yet strangely the streets aren't littered with their bodies.
@@renny3816 and what about straight men respecting lesbian's orientation? Lesbian's dont kill men Everytime they hit on them. Gay men get killed over the fact that they're gay even whenever they "respect heterosexual mens orientations".
Funny cause you’re being just that… Knitpicky. Also I know someone who has that last name & their family does pronounce it like Lutch so it’s different for everyone. & your comment makes you seem like an arrogant douche, just being honest. 🤷🏻♀️
Well I know someone too where it's pronounced Cologne, so relax. They weren't being rude about it. It's just information, so quiet down. Don't get your panties in a bunch. It's all good...
Ahh I remember the Jonathan and Scott one it was so sad. Although it’s embarrassing he could’ve just said I’m not interested I’m sorry not go and murder him 😭 Not people saying Scott asked for it in these comments… why are y’all justifying his murder? If it was that serious where Scott was stalking him and harassing him he could call the police and get a restraining order not murder him.
The first story I can totally understand why that man snapped. I’m on hookup sites quite a bit. So it’s unavoidable that you’ll attract other men, so at first, I took it as a compliment. I’d kindly tell them to not sext me and they would not listen. Kind of like what this man did by writing him a sexual letter. It kept happening so much that I became bitter about it. So anytime I’d get a message from a man, I’d straight tell them to fuck off. Some of them would make new accounts once I blocked them. This isn’t just one man. I can remember maybe 30 or so just this year. It wasn’t that they found me attractive that bothered me, it was them not respecting the boundary lines I put up. I told them I was cool with talking to them platonically, but they just didn’t respect that. At first you’re kind. Then you’re stern. After that, you become bitter, angry, annoyed and grossed out. Thankfully, I never encountered these men in person. If I did, I’m sure I’d beat the shit out of them.
I agree with you. He didn't become violent to the guy until he kept after him, harassing him after he had already told him no. If the guy had just backed off after the first time he said he was not interested, everything would've most likely been fine. He just had to keep bothering him though
This really upsets me, that straight men are disrespected in this way. I can kinda see why people don’t like my community, especially other men. It’s probably because they prey on straight men and harass them, it’s disgusting. I never treated a straight man this way ever. Yeah, I’ve found straight men to be very attractive, but I keep it to myself, because I respect their orientation.
@@renny3816 Well, i have a lot of experience with this issue and still do today, lmao. Its always going to be an issue. I get it, the whole straight men being attractive to gay men. Totally understandable. I initially don't have an issue with them saying "hey, you're cute", or even saying something more adult rated like, "you have a nice ____", if that's the pic they are commenting on. I say "thank you very much". Some will ask me in a polite manner, "would you be interested in a guy doing so and so to you"? I usually respond the same each time, "Thank you for the interest in me, but i'm not interested in men". Now this goes 3 ways. 1. They are respectful and leave it at that. 2. They decide to totally ignore my message and tell me what they want me to do to them in detail. Even sending a nude picture of themselves without me asking for it. 3. They call me a homophobe. So you can kind of see how this could wear someone down mentally. I'm a 30 something year old man and i just don't have the patience for people anymore, lmao. So my fuse is very small.
In the last story I wonder if she went over that curb into the lake right when she was reading and answering the text about being just 5 minutes away from home. Sad
The first one got me. The man did not deserve to die that's for sure, but I just don't understand why he would continue harassing someone that said they weren't interested. Kind of creepy. The show should have been held accountable. They set that man up. & I'm not sure why people are saying Johnathan is gay..maybe he genuinely just wasn't interested and them going on and on pushed him to the limit. Just a sad situation.
The first case was ludicrous in regards to Jonathan's defense attorney's argument. I mean, Ive been in a situation where I was stalked by a man who worked at my local gas station. I politely told him I was straight (and was kind of flattered initially) but he pursued me, even following me to my house and leaving notes personally delivered to my mail box. I eventually had to get a restraining order because he threatened my family. I will say that it is uncomfortable to be looked at like a piece of meat but it's just not an excuse for killing a man. I mean, I guess he had to try some argument but... He should have known before going on the Jenny Jones show that he could be potentially embarrassed on live television. It's good that his family didn't get any of that money. It's a bad show but they didn't do anything illegal. The sad truth is Jon grew up in a bigoted household and killed a man after he embarrassed him and made him feel uncomfortable. Jonathan's father is far more to blame than any TV producer
And the show didn’t force Scott to write the suggestive note nor did they force Jonathan to go on a date or have any sexual contact with Scott. I think it truly peaked when the woman and Scott had said they had sex after going out for drinks when taping was over. I think he was afraid people would believe he did have sexual contact with Scott and the fact the entire world (to him) was going to see him on tv being asked out by a gay man.
@@sammurphy3343 he went on the Jenny Jones show. He's gonna get embarrassed. And it only took him a few days for the 'humiliation' to apparently throw him over the edge.That sounds like a walking time bomb with the fuse fastened by his father's bigoted beliefs. There are times in life we are made uncomfortable by others and we get embarrassed. With social media it happens a million times a day. Hell, someone can post something embarrassing on Tik Tok and wayyyyyy more people will see that shit in an instant. Then they say "shit I shouldn't have posted that" before waiting five minutes for people to lose attention
I disagree i would have done the same thing that creepy wueer got what he deserved at least ny being shot with a 12 gauge he died with a little dignity something he never had in life
The first story happened in Adrian Michigan, where my dad was born & raised. I heard about about this story many years ago. This is a sad story but also incredibly weird to hear about this super small town (20,000 residence) that I love so much. Nobody knows about this town but its on freaking youtube. Thank you for doing this story, love.
@@monicaavalos9312 I was kinda like, “Wait, did her kids get out too????” I’m dumb for not thinking for a second when it was mentioned only she was missing.
I guess organized crime has its limits after all. At least they spared that poor baby but I wonder if he was slightly older and could have been able to identify them if he would have been so lucky.
Poor Erica! Cooking all day, running around all night delivering the food to family and friends, she must have been exhausted. Pretty sure she fell asleep at the wheel, went over the kerb, and ended up in the water without waking up 🥺
Scott trying to still hit on Jonathan after the show is super weird and creepy. Nonetheless he didn’t deserve to be murdered. Maybe yelled at or punched but not murdered.
That last one was so sad. If she hadn't been pestered by people asking if she got home ok via her cell, and had ignored her cell like a responsible driver, she'd still be alive today
Listen, I don't know other people's lifestyles but for the love of God unless you're a club hopping 18 year old you shouldn't be out visiting people all hours of the morning. That's why there's daytime. You sleep at night. Or am. I wrong?!
@@SuperRowdyTube I work nights, I don’t think my boss would like it if I slept at work. So I sleep during the day. It’s almost like your schedule works for your lifestyle, but isn’t ideal for everyone, and that doesn’t mean your way is any better or worse. No need to be condescending, the world doesn’t shut down when you fall asleep. Those of us on a different schedule like myself (working overnights in an emergency room) deserve a life outside of work too, if you’re sleeping why do you care what time other people make social calls?
@@_Katya_Snow Well if you read what I said instead of jumping at the chance to be offended you'd see I said "I don't know other peoples lifestyles" and ended my comment with "am I wrong?" so I was posing the question. I obviously am not talking about people who work nightshifts, so no need to feel like a victim. I'm clearly speaking about 9-5 people. I understand the world goes on after I sleep, I know the world doesn't revolve around me cupcake. But no need to interject yourself into this. Yes, for people who work nightshifts of course they're gonna be out in the middle of the night, they're just not welcome to call me or visit me until the morning. 😉
the timeline is wrong. The texting was at 3/315 AM. She went BACK OUT or decided to "make another stop" and went to ANOTHER FRIENDS HOUSE after the texting then crashed 1/2 hours later at 430/5AM according to FBI from seeing her car appear on surveillance camera and triangulating her cell phone. This means it is FAR FAR FAR more likely her crash was caused by falling asleep at the wheel rather than text especially because text wasnt mentioned again.
The story of the little boy and his family is so heartbreaking. How sad and scary it must be to visit somewhere yet not even be safe for fear of getting murdered burned and your young child to end up alone on a strangers porch.
That last story. Texting someone whilst driving multiple times sounds like the clearest answer as to what went wrong. I don't blame the family for asking after her at all. It was her choice to read and reply to those messages in the car.
Lutch Green is the best! I had a girlfriend in the 90's. Her and her friends would make up stories and get on talkshows. Usually very similar scenarios.
You should look into the disappearance of the wealthy business owner in Old Forge Pennsylvania. One day he went to work and never came home. They found blood in the restaurant and his car a few a blocks away. This happened in 2014? I think. He has a family of 3 children and a wife. Very well known in our small town. There hasn't been an update on anything in years. It's so sad because I know the family very well. His name is Robert Baron
