4 Ways to Get a Phat Snare Sound

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Nick D'Virgilio shares four tips on creating a bigger snare sound. Nick has selected four DW snare drums for this demonstration, but these tips will apply to a wide range of snare drums. After the video, learn more about the gear used in this video at the links below.
Drums:
Kick - DW Jazz Series 23" x 18" - www.sweetwater...
Snare 1 - DW Jazz Series 5.5" x 14"
Snare 2 - DW Jazz Series 5.5" x 14"
Snare 3 - DW Design Series 5.5" x 14" - www.sweetwater...
Snare 4 - DW Performance Series 5.5 "x 14" - www.sweetwater...
Drumheads:
Evans G1 - www.sweetwater...
Remo Ambassador - www.sweetwater...
Aquarian Texture Coated
Drumsticks:
Vater Universal
Accessories:
Big Fat Snare Drum Auto-Tone Snare Drum Topper - www.sweetwater...
Remo Control Rings - www.sweetwater...
Microphones:
Kick Drum - Shure Beta 52A - www.sweetwater...
Over head - Audio-Technica AT5045 - www.sweetwater....
Apple 15" MacBook Pro - www.sweetwater....
Universal Audio Apollo 8p - www.sweetwater...
Avid Pro Tools 12 - www.sweetwater....

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@bryonlanderman2330 4 года назад

Or the 5th option. You could buy heads that are designed to take that overtone ring out like the Evans Genera Dry or Remo Powerstroke 3 that give you a great phat drum sound, without tuning gimmicks that can cause your head to wear out faster and possibly warp your hoop, or the need for using external muffling devices that actually choke the sound of the drum.

@thebayoudiaries8389 7 лет назад

As a vintage country player, this thud sound brings me back to the old days of country. Thank you Nick.

@patricklong1187 4 года назад

Never mind those snare drum sounds...I'm most impressed by his BASS drum sound! Finally, a bass drum that doesn't sound like you're beating soggy pound cake. This has TONE.

@RoeShamBoe 7 лет назад

kick sounds absolutely fierce

@milescampbell52 3 года назад

Nick, I swear you are the MAN when it comes to drumming. You have help me so much in my journey of drumming.

@MusicJamin330 7 лет назад

What are THOSE hi-hats!? MAN I want those!

@lokwer 7 лет назад

seems like a meinl byzance dark hi hat... pretty cool hats !!

@andre-pz1wv 6 лет назад

Meinl Byzance Extra Dry Medium Hi-Hats 14" i think

@drew_on_drums 6 лет назад

They look like 15s instead of 14s

@chasesteinberger3342 6 лет назад

I was gonna say the same thing! Pretty sure they are the Meinl 16" extra dry hats

@jacksonmasco 6 лет назад

MusicJamin330 meinls whole line of extra dry hats are phenomenal

@nessrecords 6 лет назад

Another great example of why I love this guy. Not only a great demo, but invaluable "road tips" from experience. The doughnut (yellow drum) is my favorite today.

@markielinhart 2 года назад

Brilliant Nick‼️

@1111Paiste 3 года назад

The "Big Fat Snare Drum" does it for me.

@bigradio9195 5 лет назад

You can tell he's a drummer, look how thin his wallet is.

@tylerbailey9329 4 года назад

Ha. Haha. Hahahaha.....*cries

@sand9577 4 года назад

Virgil owns a state with horses...the most expensive I own is my PC.

@Philipp.of.Swabia 4 года назад

David Belanger Sir you got a point, xD

@spedsledproductions 3 года назад

Oof

@alweenrvain2358 3 года назад

Big Radio ain't that the truth brother! Lol

@christopherdaley6304 5 лет назад

Nick: I loved your percussion and drumming on Calling All Stations. As a long time Genesis fan I loved every song you played on. Thanks.

@matthewpaluch777 7 лет назад

Great job Nick, thanks for the sharing. One thing that should be pointed out though. When de-tuning the 3 lugs make sure they're not the lugs closest to the strainer.

@aaronmichaels8347 2 года назад

Love Nick ... Great tips. I love the George Costanza (Seinfeld) reference ... from a guy who reminds me of john lovitz LOL. I use a trick like the wallet trick. I take a very small hand towel or wash cloth , fold it over and lay it on the snare just like the wallet was. It pretty much stays on. Sometimes i'll use a small piece of tape just to keep it from sliding off. It works well.

@glennedwardgo 7 лет назад

Thanks for this tutorial nick & the sweetwater folks!

@agork 5 лет назад

Beautiful drumming!

@chasesteinberger3342 6 лет назад

Those hats sound AMAZING!

@adamalexanderray 7 лет назад

I took an old used 16" double ply head from my floor tom and cut the rim away leaving a 14" head sized piece. It's just the same as a big fat snare drum but you can make it for free.

@kato968 7 лет назад

Yes!!

@dazarecords3731 6 лет назад

I do the same at my studio and it works well! Problem is whenever the snare becomes Phat it loses its attack so you mic placement/technique becomes even more crucial

@Gitarzan66 6 лет назад

I'm changing my snare and floor tom over the next couple hours and thats what I'm going to do. I dont use mics so that wont affect me. (ha ha). Just a basement drummer.

@leoavalos3010 5 лет назад

great video! Nick's one of the finest drummers out there, and a great singer as well. 20+ years listening to his records.

@FacsTwo 6 лет назад

I love how the 4th snare sounds

@D-Man_Jam 4 года назад

The yellow one sounds the best IMO.

@grzesiek41st 6 лет назад

6:43 ...and that guy with umbrella :D

@paulysci925 4 года назад

🤦‍♂️

@marknjudi 4 года назад

I must have found that same youtube video that you found on the tight bottom head and detune the 3 closest lugs on the top. Been using that, and also the BFSD and Remo O rings. Lots of options! Thanks for confirming these techniques with this great video.

@bpdrumstudio 7 лет назад

Great tuning tips Nick...always love your Playing. I'd like to contribute that detuning for a phat snare sound , I found works best with triple flanged hoops and not die cast. My 2 c worth. Cheers.

@thegayge 7 лет назад

Quick somebody isolate the "That's pretty phat sounding." at 5:05 and put it in the middle of dub track or something.

@thegayge 7 лет назад

And add "Even more thud" at 8:15.

@rodrigofernandez5825 7 лет назад

Leaving a comment for if someone does it

@drew_on_drums 6 лет назад

I want to use it as a pre- breakdown line and just hit the most brutal breakdown in the world

@jamesh.570 6 лет назад

Somebody please do this ^

@drew_on_drums 6 лет назад

James Helfrich the breakdown or the dubstep idea

@EixtremeDrummer 6 лет назад

Thanks, Nick, this is helpful

@GoodKevin111 7 лет назад

Is that Lars' drumset?

@autofocus4556 5 лет назад

GoodKevin111 he plays on trash cans

@PedroDVC 6 лет назад

I love this guy!

@blkjakk 7 лет назад

I use the Big Fat Snare Drum "Steve's Donut" & it's a great product too.

@JonathanHolt1988 5 лет назад

Those rings are magical. I got some evans erings and they are amazing on the snare and toms to bring out a lot of low, phat sounds, gets rid of overtones great.

@timcline161 6 лет назад

Excellent video Ty!

@kiltymacbagpipe 7 лет назад

To get a similar sound to the big fat snare product invert a spare 14" head onto the drum. If you are like me you have more than one old head lying around which will work just fine.

@Positive-pat 7 лет назад

Bruce Hewat this is the route I typically take to achieve the fat sound. I've found the older the head the fatter the sound!

@drew_on_drums 6 лет назад

Like put it in upside down?

@zynix976 6 лет назад

Yup, so the rim of the head (that sits on the outside the bearing edge) points upwards instead of downwards

@AcDcDrummerJake1215 6 лет назад

I can’t quite put this together in my head. Do you mean cut the head out and or just slap it on top of the head you’re using and use it as a dampener, or something else?

@Assimilator702 5 лет назад

Jake Becker I cut the head from the hoop after the section where it curves. Place the head onto your snare upside down. I’ve been doing this for years with a clear Pinstripe head. I don’t think I’ve ever thrown out an old head in my life. That’s ALOT of heads! I even have an entire set of Joey Jordinsons used heads. I think he only used heads for maybe 2 shows when he was with Slipknot.

@dogmart 7 лет назад

Tony Williams Yellow--the only way to go, baby! :)

@Positive-pat 7 лет назад

dogmart isn't that thing gorgeous!

@blushingtruth 6 лет назад

Sounds great!

@IFBSal 7 лет назад

Please make a review of the Pearl Eliminator Redline cause you guys make the best reviews for drum products lol

@WadeLucas 7 лет назад

I didn't know Jon Lovitz played drums!

@djevlhelvete 7 лет назад

Wade Lucas I knew he reminded me of somebody but I just couldn't figure out who. Thanks! Hahaha!

@baconfromhell666 6 лет назад

This guy is very likable.

@buzzyhansen5653 4 года назад

...that trick you slide a stick under the snares to tune bottom head is a real cool idea ! why didn't I think of that years ago 🤔

@LukeAlejo 7 лет назад

the yellow snare does it for me!

@fecatellus1337 4 года назад

The Seinfeld reference was extraordinary XD

@mikaelsnare 6 лет назад

George Costanza mentioned!

@tsrohydag3290 Год назад

Thanks a lot

@el_nestorvgc 4 года назад

I'm guitar player and a frustrated drummer too LOL. BTW i like the first snare tone

@drumsNstuff79 7 лет назад

I use the Remo rings and love them. i have the set of two 14", one thin, one wider.. Uts great to have that option when your band goes into a mid tempo song like "Angel of Montgomery" and you can hang the ring off your floor tom leg and throw it on to get an instant fat sound. I do think you may have to tune a drum down a bit if it is too high pitched to begin with to get a deep tone. I like the Remo rings more that the idea of the BFSD because you get that stick on head attack and it doesn't get too mushy. Although the classic muffled 70's sound can be as mushy as it gets!

@jknighton 7 лет назад

BFSD is great too...

@pjcouture9944 Год назад

John Bonhams snare sound. NICE!!!

@larryprice6321 3 года назад

Thanks so much , I'm new to drums, Aldo dude you sound like Cassie cassum

@ionianblue31 7 лет назад

I like how each of the snares are a different kind of phat and thuddy. If it were me, I'd use the yellow snare on, say, verses, and either the black wallet snare or white snare on the chorus. Especially if you're pushing the beat during the choruses.

@blkjakk 7 лет назад

Oooooooh I'm imagining how fat of a sound Bill Gate's wallet would produce.

@Positive-pat 7 лет назад

Blkjakk hahaha right! Or Warran Buffet.

@mrpositronia 7 лет назад

Donald Trump's just contains a whole bunch of ready-made IOUs

@blkjakk 7 лет назад

mrpositronia Baaahaaaaahaaa!!!!!!!!!

@LaurentOliveri 7 лет назад

Hahaha

@richardpine8011 7 лет назад

Morbidly obese kinda phat.

@robertlucas9867 7 лет назад

I never use the first technique despite what some (Evans drumheads) and others say because it does damage the rim over time by warping and the heads break or stretch quicker. I use a spare head upside down, Big Fat Snare drum, O rings or some cut to shape paper or thin cardboard. Also I have spare snares for specific sounds. Also electronic triggers or pads for those occasional times you can't use all drums or have time to change.

@connerhartigan7576 6 лет назад

Yellow drum shell is the deepest in my opinion!

@EphICanIMite 7 лет назад

I've used the "wallet" trick for a while now at church. I leave mine folded though, and maybe leave a third of it hanging over the edge. If I want it really dry, leave the entire wallet on the head. It does work really well.

@thundermolloy 7 лет назад

take the third technique and also put a Evans staccato disc inside the drum you get a super dry super dead Fat Sound which is actually kind of cool to use for an auxiliary snare

@dmanalang9037 7 лет назад

I luvit! Thank u!

@roybeckerman9253 6 лет назад

Depends what music you’re playing. 60s snare drums had a tighter, crisp ,cracking sound The 70s were much more deep and dead.

@Doyledrumz 6 лет назад

Awesome video Nick! Do you have a bass drum tuning video???

@connerhartigan7576 5 лет назад

White snare drum has a deep fat sound!

@montesk_3646 6 лет назад

You can use the gel window stickers or sticky hands

@ElijahRock92 6 лет назад

Been doing the wallet technique since high school. lol Nice. Love it.

@notnerd3 4 года назад

My favourite way is just laying another head upside on top (like the BFSD). Pretty much sound exactly like the BFSD but it's cheaper (considering you can recycle used heads).

@SubaruWRXspdManual 7 лет назад

This vid gave me an idea... An all snare drum kit. Well, except the kick. What do ya think? Lol. It could work. On a serious note, this was a pretty good vid, although I'm not a fan of the bottom three lug tuning trick. Just my opinion, but I can tune my snare higher or lower pretty fast without the fear of jacking my shell or hoop up.

@kristianwest3855 7 лет назад

Can you do a review of the Tama Starclassic Bubinga drumset?

@curtishill109 4 года назад

👍 Useful!

@sammbobdylan 5 лет назад

Brant Parsons makes a good point in that it should not be the 3 lugs closest to the snares. Some drummers have their strainer in different positions. I think it is noteworthy. S

@gacdrums6685 7 лет назад

Great job Nick !!! Paisan !!!! I was really interested in the high hat cymbals can you tell me about them ?

@brandonquod4910 7 лет назад

Maybe its just me but i loved the sound of the snare on the first one, before you detuned the three lugs. After that i wasnt a big fan but idk i guess i like a sharp sound

@paradigmshiftz7 6 лет назад

Plz make a video on how to get a snappy snare sound

@loveroflife1438 5 лет назад

my fave is getting a ludwing vintage marching drum with thick ass heads

@rockem3411 3 года назад

Thx it work well for my export series can i do same for my tom?

@Chicken_Wang1 2 года назад

I’ve had a problem with my snare where it sounds like a tenor kind of, with the “snare sound” in the background almost. I’ve tried retightening the strings and a bunch of other things, but can’t get it back to normal. Was just wondering if anyone here had any ideas.👍🏻

@randywoolum2648 7 лет назад

I wish I could figure out how to get the Alex Van Halen "Diver Down" and "1984" snare drum sound!

@matthewpaluch777 7 лет назад

Randy Woolum Easy Randy, remo black dot with duct tape on top head. Google it 4photo-

@CoryPelizzari 6 лет назад

God bless Udo Masshoff.

@yaki_font 7 лет назад

in my opinion the first technique probably can damage the drum edges

@CzarCustom 6 лет назад

that's why I use metal snares

@FacsTwo 6 лет назад

Indeed, I wouldn't do it too

@dereckkami8200 6 лет назад

I'm afraid of the warping

@loveroflife1438 5 лет назад

yes warps the rim to if its a flang rim

@bohdaaanek 5 лет назад

You'll break the head first...

@jmpsthrufyre 7 лет назад

Let me just repeat something already said many many times. An old head, preferably undented, and a razor is all you need. I started doing this around 20+ years ago( because I'm a genius) And the the thicker the head, the deeper the tone/pitch becomes. I would actually use a thin cloth or rag, before coming up with the old skin idea. But the skin works great because it stays put...I wonder who the first person was who thought of this....and when... probably some hippie in the 60s.

@dazarecords3731 6 лет назад

I know this is a snare drum video but what are those hi-hats he's playing? They sound incredible

@a-8702 6 лет назад

I think they're Meinl Byzance Extra Dry

@sammbobdylan 5 лет назад

If you want to get a phat snare sound refer to the Udo Masshoff snare tuning technique. Simple. Respect. S

@glytch5 4 года назад

That can't be good for the edge though. Super uneven tension in one spot. Over time I feel like that is going to cause a problem.

@YodaMan-420 6 лет назад

not so sure about the first one. wouldnt that warp the shell? or possibly even crack it if its wood..

@roybeckerman9253 7 лет назад

The wallet actually sounds the best. Is it supposed to be empty or full ? Not sure how practical is it playing .

@aalegge 5 лет назад

If you're a musician it's probably empty

@willyrodriguez5317 6 лет назад

How many turns do you do on the bottom and the too head ? I really like how the first snare sounds but I can’t get to sound like that

@davidmartin6959 5 лет назад

et si on ajoute des pieces dans le portefeuille ça fait tambourin ?

@zeefour 7 лет назад

I use a Vintage A on my snare. If I layer it with an Evans Hydraulic, my face changes shape. It's beefy.

@leo_adrian 5 лет назад

What about remo ring on the first snare (the one with loose hoop bottom). How'll sound?

@matthewbatki 7 лет назад

number 3 number 3 number 3 number 3

@patovega 3 года назад

will detuning the three lugs damage the shell or rim?

@zhongxina8426 6 лет назад

can the first technique be applied to a 8-lugged snare drum? if so, how?

@cooldjism 6 лет назад

Hey, any recommendations for my Gretch Snare drum as its probably about 3-4 years old now, its got that really old, stick marked, grey accents all over the skin of it because of all the use from over the years. But I've realised recently that the snare drum just sounds very very Tinny and stale, almost like when you're hitting your own pockets thats full of change (If you get what I mean). Is this a sign for me to finally save up and buy a new snare drum or can this be fixed using these methods in the video?

@ElephantsGerald 7 лет назад

Hey Nick... Can the techniques you used on the first snare also be applied to the toms for similar results?

@clearestapricotpencil4125 7 лет назад

Alan Slimak probably not, because tom sounds go after more tone and sustain and pitch, rather than the short crack of a snare. The first technique can also probably damage your drums over time. You generally want to keep your tension even around the drum.

@user-ig7nq7pc7k 6 лет назад

First thing Al Jackson would do is take out is wallet and lay it on the snare - the WHOLE wallet. Plus, he apparently had a lot more cash in it than you do. LOL!!! Nice video - thanks.