Gord, Instead of the expand-o-waist feature I thought you were going to say something about a zipper which is also necessary for guys our age. Great review. Thank you!
Fine program..thx. Been using full wrap LABONVILLE chaps for many years. They are hot so, shorts ( or nude ! ) in hot temps. Reliable chaps, but NO zipper or pockets.
I don't know about other subs but I really don't care for videos that are under 15 min throw they are informative I prefer longer videos. I myself prefer at least 30 min.
I just found your channel as I was searching for chainsaw boot advice.... superb presentations ( including this about chainsaw pants ).... as a newbie to this chainsawing lark , I need advice from a user like you. Thanks a million I subscribed !
@@GPOutdoors just to let you know ... my wife is a Canuk... from Ottawa ... she is now here in UK with me... we almost bought a 300 acre property close to Almont... which had its own saw mill and forest .... however , the dice rolled differently , and we are now across the pond ... you present perfectly ... super informative , and interesting ... Imakes me wish I had bought in Almont , now ! will keep your channel at top of favourites list
Ok, you've got my attention and possible interest in a pair of those chainsaw pants...gonna look some up now and maybe get a pair. That is if they make them for my lightsaber saw...lol
I believe the proper term for extra mid section size is Labanza .LOL . Good stuff GP Just been schooled on chainsaw pants, see -your more than a pretty face. End of the day there is always something new to learn, thank you GP. Stay safe and as always, tell your buddy Stihl is better than Husky.
Last month we cut down a 25 meter eucalyptus tree. I started out wearing Stihl chainsaw trousers. It was really hot and worse was humid. After around 10 minutes I had to take them off as I was overheating cutting out the notch in the tree. I’m sure these pants are great when it’s snowing but when it’s hot and humid they are tough wear if doing tree work.
Hey good day Karl. Thanks for the great insights. We'll see how they do come July here. Eucalyptus trees? I think I heard they are super difficult to split? True?
Compared to softwood trees they are much tougher. The wood is very dense and heavy. The trees we are cutting down are mainly a variety called blue gum or grey gum, two very closely related species. They grow quite quickly and given the chance will grow into huge that can be over 40 meters high. I've only split them with a wedge and a sledge hammer so yeah they are hard to split. However there are other trees around that are tougher. One is called an Ironbark tree. The name sort of tells you what these trees are like. Australia is a tough place but at least it does not snow in most places.
This is great information, Gord. I’ve thought about buying chainsaw pants for quite some time but I already have a pair of chaps and couldn’t seem to justify yet one more thing in my equipment/accessories stable. I really like the no belt rationale, although I suppose suspenders could be used on chaps as well, as I too have a bit of that “love” around the waist! Might be time to visit my friendly Stihl dealer... I need a couple of chains anyway so it could be a somewhat more expensive visit! When my better half asks why I have yet more sawing stuff, I’ll tell her that a Gord told me I needed it LOL! Cheers!
LOL! I'll be your fall guy anytime Dave.:)) I am looking forward too seeing if they are ok in late July. I get really hot having the chaps on the overalls in the heat of summer but of course, quick and easy to take off when I am done. We'll see - I like that these ones have the vent zippers. Have a great week Dave and hope you get some time art the property soon. :))
The pants look like a good idea! My chaps are so stiff that the only time I wear them is when I'm cutting. It gets annoying putting them on and taking them off many times a day.
Great insights into an overlooked subject. Since I am well past my "best before" date, I cannot use a saw other than for occasional trail clearing or fallen tree removal, so chaps represent the easiest on-off option for users like me without having to wear PPE full time in the woods. Enjoy Spring, hopefully soon.
I understand that belts can be restrictive, but one of the things that I learned working in the woods with my father, was to always wear a belt, just in case something did go bad, you always had something that you could use as a tourniquet. It’s one of the things that has stuck with me for around 50 years now. PPE has come a long way since those days, but cutting is still dangerous.
Good mooring Tom. That is an excellent point and a very practical reason for one. Your dad is really smart. Never thought about that. Thanks for sharing it with us. All the best!
thank you, i have used chainsaw pants for years, but i had no idea they were rated to the saw that you use. i'm 67 now and need all the protection i can get !! again, thank you so much.
Great consideration about chainsaw pants. I got the Deluxe Seismic pants... Highest protection available I guess. But not so comfortable. They are quite warm in winter. But summer is a pain.... No ventilation at all. No need for hangers, they stand by themself! Lol! Then no zipper, so you are right, I always bring sawdust samples back home! I'll consider this model for summer use. Thanks!
I’m probably my the worst there is concerning the use of safety equipment. But you presented enough information to cause me to consider changing my ways. As with anything there’s going to be a wide spectrum of effectiveness and comfort. Great info GP!!
Hi and good morning GP! The thing about this time of year is it may get warm working, but if you have to stop and get more clothes to put on to stay warm you are not doing yourself justice in the amount of time you are working in the daylight. You can always get cooler but trying to get warmer, once you are cold you are cold! You and Guy have a great day and I look forward to your next video at Guys place.
Thank you, Gordon! As always, a great topical presentation. Not being a "Safety Sally" here, but since this is about protection, you had many instances here where you're doing a lot of flipping of your chainsaw 180° and redirecting the bar when not really needing to get it out of the way. You'll be glad you're wearing PPE if you ever misjudge your flip and catch the nose of the bar on your leg....and then ask yourself, "Why did I do that?" It seems like unnecessary motion as well, cumulative over a long work day....fatiguing.
Morning and thanks Graham. Yes, better to flip it without turning it inward however being right handed, I find it awkward to exchange it through both hands to turn it outward as I turn it 180 degrees - but your point is well taken. Please note, the chain brake is always on, as safety requires when the saw is not being used to cut, first, and as also required, when you walk with the saw, the bar should always face backwards ( which is why I always turn it before or as walking away. Hope that helps but appreciate your great comments. I do have to try to remember to turn it outward instead of inward. :) All the best!
Good morning Gord, thanks for sharing this information with us. Safety first when it comes to operating a chainsaw. Those look like a great safe pair of pants for being safe using a chainsaw saw. I am anxious to see more about these pants and the warmer climates. Be safe and have fun. Fred. 👏🏻👏🏻👍👍
Very good GP. I notice you wear bibs try some chainsaw bibs they are great in cold weather and you can bring more chips home to mama you two boys be safe.
I have pants and chaps. I like the chaps in the spring when cutting up wood, cooler I find. The pants for in the woods because they don’t get snagged on brush and caught up getting on and off the tractor. Think with your info it’s time for new ones. Thanks for the info. 👍.
Good morning Laurie! I am looking forward to seeing how they are come mid summer. They are comfortable right now, no question, and in the summer the chaps on top my overalls gets really hot and sweaty. So we'll see if these provide comfort in the hot temps. Thanks for the comment this morning - have a good one!
How's she goin'? Good info about the chain speed and if your pants/chaps are rated for that!!! If you have ever been attacked by a chainsaw, you know that safety pants are man's best friend for sure!!! I like the pant style myself, but the chaps are sure easy to get on and off!!! Both have advantages I guess eh!! Thanks for posting and take care!!
Morning Grampie. I like the quick on handoff of the chaps etc but wanted to try out some pants and see how they worked for me. Winter is all good cause I am happy to be warm but we'll see how they are come summer. Take care and all the best!
Pants appear to be a lot more comfortable than chaps. Gotta love the suspenders and elastic for being more gentle on lower back. Especially when you have long underwear on. Sometimes it feels like we have 100 rubber bands on our waist. I sometimes double up on long underwear which doesn’t help for comfort. Good insight here-didn’t understand that the protective clothing is specifically designed for the chainsaw speed. Makes sense though
Went to school with the guy that cut himself wide open from his ankle bone all the way up to his upper leg... and knew another guy that cut his left hand write down the center from a kickback.. one of your videos GP you should cover the dangers of kickback
Thanks GP. Your videos are quite informative. I appreciate the extra steps you take to investigate details of a product. I too used some of the former antiquated methods of product selection. Your nonbiased opinion helps me determine the product that may meet my needs. Thanks for your time and effort in creating the videos. I would trust you much more than a chaps selling corporation that has a vested interest in the product they promote. Enjoyed a full-watch. Have a fine week and be safe. 👍🏽🙂
Thanks very kindly and always great to hear from you Houndsman! I'm going to give these a whirl and see what it is like in our summer heat (which I think is nowhere near as hot as you get there). Hope you are well!
good video and learned something new never knew about different ratings on safety protection just when you thought you knew everything lol thanks have a great night
Nice video, but it doesn't bode well for summer wear if you are already hot with just wearing long johns under them now. And it would probably be worse if you got a size larger so that you could wear your overalls (or pants) under them. We'll see what you think when you get there.
At 03:48 Guy made me laught when saying; ''...don't turn around, please...'' ;-D Also, procurement background always usefull in every aspect of our life. Be well and safe.
Hi Gord! Thanks for sharing such great info! I had no idea chaps were rated based on chainsaw speed. Very good to know! I prefer the apron style because I can come out of them pretty quickly which is important in warmer weather when I do most of my tree work. Thanks again!
Good day Martin. Me either - had no idea. I'm looking forward to seeing how these pants do in the summer. That is the big test for me. Hope you are keeping well sir!
The one advantage to the chaps or apron pants is they are easy on or off. So you can put them on at the spur of a moment. The chainsaw pants would require some fore-thought to put them on before going to use your chainsaw.
Hello GP outdoors After having viewing a few of your RU-vid videos , there is one thing that I think I can assume. You have do every well for yourself in your past/ present employment. All of your equipment, accessories and upgrades or top of the line. God bless and thank you for your videos. They are very informative and if I may say so by what I can tell from your story. Your dreams can come through if you invest in yourself and and work hard and smart to make them come through. Congrats from one Canadian to another.
Thanks kindly Tony. I appreciate the kind and thoughtful comments. And always great to hear from a fellow Canadian. Words well spoken, good sir. Have a wonderful week and thanks again!
Great information - I never knew about the chain speed ratings, thought chaps were chaps! Now I'm reading that chaps may not stop the torque of battery powered saws...
Folks that don’t think they need PPE are the ones that need it most. Ya, it can be uncomfortable, and ... cost extra, takes more time to put on, but the day it saves you from bleeding to death, or having one of your eyes put out, or worst, you’ll be thankful you took the time to purchase and wear. Great video GP. Folks that ignore using PPE, be it upon there heads. You got a $10.00 head, wear a $10.00 helmet... .
Good morning GP. I love your videos and learn a lot of things from them. I have only one question that maybe you can answer. Do you ever use a chain saw that older and does not look brand new ? I always notice that the printing on your chain bars is never worn off. Please keep making your videos and may God bless.
Good morning Harry. LOL! That's a good question. This saw is only a couple months old but on my older 251, I got 4 years use out of the last bar (which I thought was pretty good). Thanks for saying hello this morning and have a wonderful week!
Who knew? You did of course! Those are some stylish pants, GP! Suitable for the theater! I will be interested in what you think in the heat of the summer. Thanks!! Cheers!
Great info GP! Thanks, I’m going to ck out the pants. Hey GP, I notice when you rotate the saw in one hand you turn the bar inward, please be careful, if you have a longer bar or a different saw that bar could hit your leg. As always another great video, keep up the good work!
Morning DD and thanks for the reminder. It is a bad habit but I think it is because I am right handed. I know I have to walk with the saw facing backwards and it seems easier/more natural to turn it inwards than to move it between my hands to turn it backwards and then hold it. But good advice my friend - thanks again!
A little bit of elastic in your wasteband is not a bad thing! Here here! Good video! I see too many RU-viders who have dependents sawing away with little regard to safety.
When I was 12 years old buried the chainsaw in my left knee cap that took a nice chunk out and later on in years skimmed my ankle with the chain then once walking down a ravine carrying the chainsaw the wrong direction stumbled buried the dog right in the back of my calf that left a mark LOL.. but to this day I hate chaps all they do is get tangled up in brush Non-Stop. Best thing I ever seen was logger pants featherweight snow water resistance and had liner Chaps in the legs they were nice
Morning Benjy. Wow - a lot of experience and hope the knee is ok. Thanks for sharing your experiences - I think it helps for folks to know it is a reality and very important. Thanks for taking the time to share it with us!
Hi Gord - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. I have been amazed how chaps are nearly exclusively worn on the North American continent and I cannot understand their popularity. You rarely see chaps being used in this part of the world. If you do it is likely by newcomer amateurs. Many years ago I started off with chaps but quickly found them uncomfortable and weighty, especially the straps around my legs and particularly the waist belt, which dragged down my trousers and caused sweating - and swearing! I switched to Oregon trousers with an oversize waistline and suspenders, which have proved to be very comfortable all the year round and are rated for my chainsaw speed. Trouser prices vary incredibly but mine cost more or less the same as the chaps. Another point I observe constantly is that it is not obvious to me that chainsaw boots are worn. It appears that ordinary work boots are the norm and I would welcome comment on this topic. Kindest regards.
Morning Big Rodders! Thanks for the informative background - very helpful. I wear green patch safety boots but have had much comment over time on the topic. Chainsaw boots can be pretty expensive here I found, but I would appreciate your thoughts on it, if you have time - do you think approved steel toe safety boots won't protect enough? Great to hear from you!
@@GPOutdoors - Big Rodders again. I'm just an enthusiastic amateur, no expert. When I was recruited a number of years ago by a Tree Service Co to split 150 cords a year I had to get my chainsaw licence even though I had used one for 30 years, register as self employed with the Revenue (your recent video on setting up as a firewood businees was very pertinent) and provide adequate PPE, which included chainsaw boots. I can buy ordinary steel toe capped work safety boots for $35 Canadian but my chainsaw boots cost $265. I assume that the experts proved that a chain travelling at 21m a sec (4100ft a min) would rip through the leather of an ordinary boot. Another advantage of the proper boots is that they provide incredible support for the ankles especially when working in the middle of a woodpile.
You know GP you are a brilliant man, who da thunk to check on all theses options. I thought they were all the same! Now all we need is a discount code from GP to afford those expensive ones. Lol. Guess I have to tell the wife I need a new chainsaw to go with the new pants! Thanks Gordy, cheers
Why thanks Tom! I wish I could get one for you folks. However, if you can somehow squeeze a new saw out of a need for new pants, then I think we know who the brilliant one is...LOL! Have a great week Tom!
Could you do a comparison in July wearing the pants and the chaps? Just wear something under the chaps please, a G string at least!. But seriously I have never worn chaps and need to get a set. If there was a pair of chaps or pants that had integrated shin, knee guards, then I'd pay whatever. I'm currently sporting a big purple shin bruise from my last log-cutting session.
LOL! Good morning Brian. But sorry about the shin bruise - that had to be smarts for sure. Funny how certain parts of the body hurt worse than others when you bump them. I will do a followup for sure. I think my wife took my thong a long time ago so I think we're safe! LOL!
Great video Gord...and...might be a bit dramatic but you may have saved someone a whole lot of grief by discussing this topic. Not to offend anyone but if you are an employer that pays someone to use a chainsaw (arborist, landscaper, contractor, etc...) then I would respectfully suggest that you take a good look at what safety equipment that YOU provide to your employees. The time to discuss this is now and not when the Ministry of Labour is investigating an incident. That never ends well! Now to weekend warriors...we all know someone with a mystery scar on their legs that no one wants to talk about. Chain sawing is fun and a good healthy activity. But it's not just about the saw...there are other things you need to buy to protect yourself. It can he expensive to buy PPE yes, but what is the cost of not having it? Sorry Gord if I i took over your video but again this video really is important. And it looks like you had some fun making it. 😀 Cheers everyone, and 'safe sawing!'
Good day Dan and not at all. Happy to have your thoughts and comments as always. I also found out that in addition to the standards or certifications, that here in Canada, a couple of Provinces have their own additional requirements for chainsaw. sawyers, forestry etc. Quebec and BC. My understanding is that BC has the highest or most stringent requirement - the 4100 feet per minute that meets a specific BC standard (as I understand it). Always lots of good info to learn when you have a cup of coffee and an interest in finding out. It doesn't seem that long ago , that in order to find information, we had to head out to the local Library. :)) Thanks for all the good info Dan!
Growing up we never used all this safety gear, much less pants. Several years back a buddy gave me a pair and I thought never..anyway mid winter I found them not to bad to wear, ended up getting an extra pair for the wife as she took over one of the smaller Stihl saws 192TC and I make sure she puts on her PPE, well one weekend I was gone and she decided she wanted to cut up a stump I left due to something inside it and wrecked two chains..well anyway she put on the pants and broke out the 271 Farm Boss, needless to say it kicked out and hit her right below the knee, those pants saved her leg and maybe her life as she was home alone. She was worried to tell me, however I said I am so happy she had them on. BTW the pants are Stihl performance chaps.
hi gord i have the same saw and pants also went to pants over chaps just have to ask why so many pulls on the saw to get it to start mine only takes about 4 pulls when its ice cold and one when its warm thanks nice video
Morning Kevin. Thanks for mentioning that. A few other folks said their's starts quicker. I find that when it is cold it always takes 7-10 pulls however it idles so smooth ( and will idle forever without dying out, unlike my old 251) and runs so smooth that I am not sure I want to take it in to be looked at. I am afraid if they touch it then it won't idle and run as smooth afterwards. Maybe I'll just call them and ask them about it. Thanks again Kevin!
@@GPOutdoors thanks for the reply what i do notice is that saw is cutting like crazy and it will get faster as it gets more hours on it you made a good choice buying that saw have a great day
3 года назад
Hi GP, hope you'll see my question. I'm in the same position as you now, looking for a pair of chainsaw pants. What made you pick the function ergo rather than the dynamic vent model? The later is a bit more expensive and I'm not sure what more it has to offer...
Good day. I had the same challenge. The only difference I could see was that the Dynamic Vent said it was "ideal for summer use". But otherwise, they seemed the same. My chainsaw guy could not provide much other info on it so for the approx $100.00 difference, I chose the less expensive as they both had zippered vents, reinforced knees, front protection only and a chainsaw speed of 3,900. I will see in July just how hot these may get. I doubt they can get hotter than my black overalls. LOL.
Bullet Proof Vests & Chainsaw Pants, two things you don't want to test while your wearing them. Pants have saved me twice over the years, don't pick up a saw without them.
Hi Bruce. Thanks - sadly, I don't sell the coat - it was a one time order for the xmas giveaway. The pants are called "Function" and the model is the "Ergo". STIHL has them all listed on their website. Have a great week!
Leather boots & steel toes are great protection in an industrial environment, but don't stand up to a chainsaw. They make big orange clunky chainsaw boots for a reason. Something else to research.
Morning Bob and Kim! Thanks - I have looked a few times over the past while. CSA approved steel toe work boots won't do the job? I'd appreciate your further thoughts on it, if you have time- thanks!
Lets be truthfull. The #1 reason for buying that pair of pants was the Stihl name on the pants. You would never live it down if you visited your friends with another brand name on them.
LOL! So true Charles. If Bob saw me with something with the name Huskie on them, I would never live it down. But then again, that might make for a good prank...Have a great week!
Good morning Bruce. I purchased mine through STIHL - they are listed on their website here in Canada. Just for clarity, I am not recommending this pair of pants - just testing them out right now - I'll provide a review and update sometime in mid summer after I have been able to try them out for a while. Thanks and good luck!
Hold on….if you have a C model saw how come you were pull starting it like that? The C models all have Stihl Easy Start which mean you shouldn’t be yanking that pull handle like that. Unless I missed something which is definitely possible haha
Well good day good sir. Thanks for tuning in. I am not sure how to answer that, exactly, but here goes. It is a Pro level saw which means it does not have the Easy Start feature that my old MS 251 had ( landscape category saw). It is a "CM" model - not a "C", it has a decompression valve on it. I think I am starting it correctly. :)) It is a Version 3 model with M-Tronic and requires 7-10 pulls to start it - consistently - still to this day and according to my Dealer, that is normal for a Version 3 M-Tronic. Hope that helps a bit - thanks again - I appreciate you watching and commenting. Cheers and all the best out there!
@@GPOutdoors ohhhh I definitely did miss something lol. I understand! So on pro level CM saws the easy start is left out but the rest of the comfort features are left in as well as the M-Tronic?…I actually love that. I have a ms251c for my property here in Hawaii and it’s perfect for that but have been looking at something a bit larger for my east coast property. Is the 261cm a big jump up in power and quality from the 251? Or you think I should go bigger? Thank your for your explanation. You earned my sub no doubt
@@Na7ure Good morning and not to worry - I am not sure why but the side of the saws only show a "C" but when you read the model and serial number sticker, that's were you can tell if it is a "C", or "CM". I loved my 251 but this 261 weighs the same as the 251 but noticeable increase in power. I believe it is still the best power to weight ratio saw on the market. Also with Pro level saws, the bar length is actually the length. An 18" bar on my 251 only offers about 16" of cutting length but an 18" bar on a pro saw is actually 18" of cutting length. Quality is excellent - I am very happy with the saw for sure. Big difference between my 251 and this 261. Best of luck and thanks for tuning in!
Hi Jordan. I found these pants on the STIHL Canada website and then called my STIHL dealer (The Chainsaw Clinic in Toronto) and he ordered them in for me to pick up. Took about 4 days to get in. Hope that helps!
Good day Jerry. These ones were $179 CDN (only $40 more than I paid for the Apron chaps several years ago). STIHL posts all their pricing on their website , which was helpful in trying to compare and decide for me. Take good care!
Hi Gord, great info! I really didn't know that the saws have to "match" the pants. How about footwear? I have Stihl boots but the soles are so hard that they are too slippery in the winter. Are regular workboots with metal toes better? Actually, my question is will you do a video about footwear as well? Cheers Phil
Good morning Phil. I have been looking at them and will probably do something soon. I don't think work boots are as good. But thanks for the info on the soles - I didn't know that. Have a great weekend!
Good morning! I found that STIHL offers different products in different countries. The Canada site, USA or UK sites all have some of the same products but also have products only offered in those countries. Hope that helps.
GP, I noticed that your chainsaw bar appeared to be upside down in the video i.e. the name STIHL was upside down when you were cutting logs. Is the name supposed to be upside down? Just wondering and don't want you to get hurt if the bar was accidentally put in incorrectly. Best regards
Good morning Cliff. Thanks for the kind concern. On a regular basis I flip the bar to help ensure even were on it. I believe the manual offers the suggested timing that it be done. I usually flip mine every second time I sharpen it. Thanks though- :)) Have a great week!
3 года назад
What about your boots GP? Are those chainsaw boots or just regular work boots?
Morning - I was looking at them, but I always wear CSA Green Patch safety boots - nothing less. Steel toe and shank. High boot. I haven't looked into their effectiveness in terms of chainsaws but perhaps a good idea at some point.
Hey GP, do you think you could do a test of the effectiveness of these pants at some time? Maybe get a mannequin and actually test the saw against them, as well as other price-point options? Best Regards, Jason - Huser Helpers
I think he would likely rather not test his new pants that he paid for. Now if any chainsaw pants/chaps manufacturers wanted to supply some to destroy, I would certainly watch that video.
GP, you do know that "chaps" are English fellers right? Ask any old cowboy and he'll tell you it's pronounced "shaps" . ~ It's boots and shaps and cowboy hats and they call it the rodeo~ Just ask Garth Brooks!! LOL!!!
Good info Gord the things you learn heck my safety chaps are probably rated incorrectly. You made me laugh when you specifically said hot in July that probably compares to one of my early March humid days. Take care stay safe.
