I'm nearly 60 now and I remember sailing with my dad and older sister, we sailed just like that it was crazy and fun... We sailed in Lasers, 420's and then dad upgraded to a B25 Binks trailer sailer, modelled with a famous winged keel... Mum got to sail then, but she stayed mostly in the cabin🤢poor mum... Dad was so competitive and going in many boat races... He was always getting us to help rig up and go out crewing for him and for his many friends😅I was always trying to get out of it by running off swimming with my friends... 😅It was quite hair raising... I remember crewing for a friend with a twin hulled Catamaran, I had to get harnessed into a trapeze and I was only about 11 or 12 years old...and were out in the deep water and unfortunately we capsized and it put me off going out again... Dear dad we had great holidays every Christmas at Balnarring Beach Vic I reckon if you were to visit that yacht club, you would see trophy boards engraved with his name... 🤔⛵😔 RIP my dear dad ❤️Brian Hatley-Smith
This video prompted my first youtube post, after 10+ years of watching. It's been even longer since I sailed a 420/470 in that kind of breeze, but I gotta say, Bravo! That is _right_ on the hairy edge, in that boat, in that air, flying a kite.... I don't know if those guys felt fear, but I know I would've been close. This brought back so many great memories. Thank you, sailors, and camera person, and all others, for sharing!
I think the main is depowering because the boat moves faster than the wind while landing down from the wave. This is typical during downwind sailing in the high seas. Anyhow, a great video...
Huge balls! Very good, keep it up! As someone that's sailed as a helmsman in 420 from 2004-2010 I'd say you guys need some more experience in maintaining control of the boat in those kind of conditions, especially the helmsman, who needs to work a lil more with the mainsail and rudder.
Great video XD Sailed with my partner in 25 knots in the sea(salt water) and another time in about 30-34 knots in a lake haha...but we only weight 105 kilograms.. after all we couldn't raise the spinnaker since we barely managed without it :-) good job guys
You do realise that professional 420 and 470 regattas will give you 3 races on this wind with these waves without hesitation. I sail these myself and I've won regattas in these conditions, it's not "barely surviving" if you know how to work the boat.
It's a chaotic, crazy ride. They don't seem to be in control at any point here - or if they are, it's just for a few moments and then they are back struggling to control anything. perhaps if they had pointed up slightly higher into wind. A lot of the time their spinnaker is flapping around with no control. I have sailed a dinghy in these conditions myself (a Hornet) but we had control. But then, we weren't attempting to use the spinnaker. In our case, it was gusting up to Force 8, and out of a fleet of 20 boats, only 3 of us made it to the finish line. We were the only boat to have avoided a capsize - but we didn't attempt to jibe at any point. Whereas we didn't even attempt to hoist the spinny, all the other boats kept putting up their kites, only to be blown over shortly afterwards.
I disagree on the turning higher up, that would just put power into the mainsail and make them loose more control. To de power the boat (at least for a 420 anyway) I find it best to head down to create more stability
lol i love how all of the people on here who have no experience taking footage of sailing keep trying to shoot this video down and say that it is no where near 35 knots. I have sailed in 35 + knots many times before and have experience taking footage. Without the noise of the wind, it is hard to tell actually how hard its blowing. This video is clearly 35 knots and if you think its not get out of your chair and sail EDIT: the reason they aren't pulling the main in all the way is because they will flip and the reason the crew isn't flatwireing is because of the waves
@pegasus619Q "Reaching" is a larger range - it's whenever a boat is not sailing directly downwind (running) and not as close to the wind as possible (close hauled). When the wind is 90 degrees to the side, it's called a beam reach. The other reaches are "close" (slightly toward the wind) and "broad" (mostly away from the wind).
You wouldn't be heeling to windward if you got the main in, look at the top of the sail. Move the weight back the skipper should be hiking as far back as possible. And the crew should be pretty much strattling the skippers back. Ive done 29er racing in 30 gusting 40, the faster you go the more stable you will be. Props for sailing in those conditions.
Good effort lads. Crank in some main and keep the kite powered up, it will help you. Don't be afraid to push the boat; its what it was designed for! :D If the boats up and tracking, the apparent wind is less so loads are reduced, flow around the sails is steady and controllable, and you can cut down the big rudder movements as everything is in balance. Good luck and happy sailing!
Sick reach, skipper's gotta hike more and sheet in, bear off a touch and ease the vang. Speaking from experience. Jealous of the wind though, that's a nice day on Lake Ontario
Nothing wrong with the helmsman. You've got to move like that the surf the waves. Spinnaker and jib trimming could be better, but could I do that in 35 knots? I don't think so!
C'mon guys, give these fellow sailors a break -- skill on the tiller becomes a graceful art while sailing downwind in waves. As for "35+", it might have been gusting to 35, but I agree, it's not consistently 35.
Yes, after racing in too much wind a couple of Sundays in a row I have to agree. After a couple of capsizes in a usually slow old boat, leave the board down and all the vang you can pull was good advice that made it much more stable. Though my sailing looked just as untidy! I too would not have been so brave if the rescue boat had not been keeping a close watch.
@Theef3kw I have sailed both and my opinion is that 29ers are much easier to capsize. yes it is harder to contol a symetric than an asemetric, but on a whole i think 29ers are harder.
Looks like good fun. If you man up and pull the kite in, the boat will go faster, be more easy to control and you won't Teabag so often. Whats the worst that could happen? ..You might get wet.
That is something like a 20 knot wind (5 Bft), not a 35 knot boat speed. And even that wind speed is optimistic, for there is hardly any foam on the waves.
more a run than a reach, and more like 25+ knots. I would head up a tad for a (slightly) more stable ride and sheet that main. They must be Laser sailors - we always go when our brain says - maybe no. They were probably laughing like maniacs!
fyi its an I420 because of the circular splashguard and national insignia, and its windier than it looks, ive noticed that that cameras remove 10 knots always haha
@tiv2fan umm no its a 420, hence the stubby bow, shorter mast, an 420 written on the top of the sail.....these dudes blow at sailing too, i used to race for a while on the east coast, i could have been rockin that shit
35+ knots windspeed not boatspeed which some people seem to think. Americas cup AC72 foilers typically do 30 knots, theres no way a 50 year old heavy dinghy designed as a trainer for 470's can do that!
Je suis un Algérien qui maitrise très bien le 470 malheureusement cette série olympiques on n'a pas des moyens ce qui veut investir dans le domaine soyez les bienvenus
You have to deal with some leeward heel in these conditions, or else everytime a wave hits from the side the crew will get knocked into the water. You just needed a little bit more mainsheet trim.
Give 'em credit for not being shells on the beach, BUT, I'd need to see a wind indicator's reading..., I've been out on my Supercat 19 with gusts to 30, the swells were 8-10, couldn't tell ya' our speed, too much happening to care.
Hmmm that's a terribly trimmed main sail, flapping on the downwind? They would be going much faster if helm pulled in the main sail and crew toggled down on the wire... He's practically standing up on the gunnels!
Thats my point doggy. Would you try that, or do you have more respect for the boat and spinnaker than they do??? Some people are sailors, and some are just crazy...
@kjelsvik I got 8 and gusts to 9 beaufort on the nord sea once, the (I don't know the term in english cuz I'm dutch) iron thread at starboard snapped and the mast bended, luckely the boat was not mine but from a sports organization :D It was fun though, I went over board 6 times in 3 houres
a few things to say 1 sick video and everthing. 2 yoours sails were luffing for like 90% of the video 3 props to the crew for doing trap and spin perty hard shit 4 skip should try to control the boats beter suprised the crew dident do a forstay walk. that is all lol
Look at the mountains not much fetch i was out in a blow of 20 gust 25 and not 100 yards off shore and it was similar luck to have 5 mile fetch here water is a BAD indicator of wind
make sure you incorporate all the great feedback from arm-chair skippers. also, people who call you out about tournaments like it's a kumate - be intimidated.
you guys are crazy, I sailed in like 25+ in a CJ, that smaller and faster, and we didn't have a tripese, but you guy should righted you sails and you spin, you'll go faster
49ers and fireballs don't go in 35 kts. this is 420 or sunfish (or opti) conditions. the 420 can only do it because it's such a pig of a boat under normal conditions.
