Boy that “full power” power-on stall got my attention - I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Garmin attitude indicator display show that much pitch up! How did it feel in the plane? In the 310 I trained in that type of power-on stall would have been a big no-no, we used half throttle and it still felt like you were pointed straight up. I’m also curious about setting power with prop control only, what system is it allows the pilot to do that, some type of electronic or computer engine control? The steep approach looked awesome! Thanks Rich!
That was very impressive and Rick solid stable. The ECS system handles the loser based on RPMs so MP and fuel automatic from ECS. Very simple. Steep approach was impressive too - don’t know where you would ever need to do that but clearing an obstacle prior to short field landing would be very easy. Thanks for watching.
I had the Italian guy say the TO is a STOL, so the pull hard control back prior to TO roll, n in the lift-off, then ease back..with power adjustments via prop (to 2400)..
I did a little looking to see how the Traveler stacks up against the Caravan - it seems that although it is not quite as capable in some areas, the operating costs appear vastly lower. That, combined with better safety, a more comfortable interior with better amenities makes me think that this plane could very well steal the Caravan's thunder in at least the commuter sector.
Sure is one nice looking plane. That steep approach was really steep and impressive. Single engine operation and handling seems to be fairly simple and easy. Wish they had a diesel/ jet fuel version for the European market since those 100LL pumps is getting both fewer, expensive and hard to find. Thanks for the ride again Rich
I used to fly the DHC 6 Twin Otter in Hawaii to some of the smaller airports like Hana and Kalaupapa, Kapalua, West Maui. This would be a great airplane for those smaller airports. What a great airplane! I am a big fan of the Technam P2006T Twin Rotax 4 seater twin also.
Really good video. loved how benign it was in the maintained stall. The automatic run up was really interesting how it reduces pilot work load . Thank you for sharing.
Tecnam looks lie a real winner for that mission segment. When I fly my C206 into KBIL for a COSTCO run I see a flock of them at Cape Air. Funny seeing Cape Air out here in Montana. They were big back east when I flew for Continental Express from KEWR.
Great video, the first on the P2012 that pilots would be interested in. The handling qualities seem perfect for a commuter airline with relatively low time pilots and the engines seem much easier to handle than that on the Chieftain. It will be interesting to see what Tecnam comes up with next. Retractable gear would be nice, as would G3000 avionics with touch screen controllers. I'm curious if Tecnam is investigating a diesel option, something like the Centurian 4.0 V8 engine. This would aircraft would be perfect for an earthrounder trip, but avgas is imposible to find in many parts of the world and if you can find it.....it is expensive. One quetion I have is are the throttle leavers left at the full forward position for most of the flight - if power is regulated by the pitch levers. It would be really nice if Tecnam would also put the POH/AFM on their website so prospective pilots/owners could familiarise themselves with the aircraft.
A fine upgrade of the Partenavia P68 Victor I saw at the dealership North of L.A. some years ago. Head banging in turbulence was an issue. The five point harnesses good to see.
@@FlyingwithRich It's a mistake a LOT of youtube content creators make. Here's how to set it: 1. Use a decent pair of headphones or studio monitors (Best to check with headphones, as overly loud parts are usually more obnoxious on headphones). 2. Set headphone (or monitor) volume, so the typical dialogue volume sounds like you're listening to a conversation with somebody right in front of you, who is speaking clearly. 3. Without changing headphone (or monitor) volume, set the music volume, so it sounds appropriate/ in context to your dialogue reference. (This process assumes that you've already mixed your dialogue for consistent volume level throughout the video, and applied any necessary post production, such as compression/limiting/AGC etc).
We were just talking about the P2012 last night and this morning!! It all started with the new Cessna Sky Courier. Then the sich w/ Cape Air and the P2012! 8) The Sky Courier is very cool too!! Cape Air is replacing their Cessna 4xx's with the P2012's. We were speculating if they might add some Sky Courier's also. 8) 2- PT6's, very good performance!! I think they were designed for FedEx!? Interesting!! Great ride along, thanks Rich!! 8) --gary
I mostly agree. If they did take on any cargo missions, or anything where more capacity was needed, the brand new Sky Courier would be an excellent choice. It's still single pilot certified, has big capacity, built like a tank and PT6's are so common now they are easy to get worked on! Parts are everywhere. It seems a great value! All things to look for when optimizing the bottom line. 8) Peace.. --gary
Skycourier is basically double the money and 19 seats. For operators who can fill the seats or fill it with boxes it will make a lot sense, but likely a different operator than the P2012. I think you will see Fed Ex phase out the Caravans for Skycouriers over time. We’ll see.
Rich- You, very good Pilot-,because You together with original pilot Francesco from Tecnam flying over Palm Beach piloting brand new-model Tecnam P2012 Traveller from Italy..!!! I wish You --Good-luck in You mission...
Hi Rich, it would be great to get your opinion on the Tecnam P2006T, light twin engine retractible gear trainer. Just to get an experienced pilot’s perspective as a trainer but also as a personal aircraft. Great videos Rich, greetings from Germany!
Good video. Nice looking aircraft. It possibly competes a little with the BN Islander, which is still in production, but this is a more modern design with a price that reflects that. It's amusing to watch with the CC on. "Mission" is often rendered as "bishop," "high duty cycle" is shown as "I did a cycle" and so on.
"We are a cigarette" The subtitles are cracking me up. I'm sure I'll see these out on Nantucket & Martha's Vineyard next year once Cape Air starts taking delivery, if they haven't already.
I think that’s the plan with Cap Air - seems like a perfect fit for them. We had audio problems which seems to be a recurring event. Thanks for watching!
Seems like a very nice plane and extremely safe with very benign stall and single engine demo. Fixed gear and no pressurization means less complication and cheaper to run. Wonder how sales would go considering it's a piston. Thanks Rich
Turbine power would probably add the better part of a $million to the price. But depending where the aircraft is flown the difference between the price of jet vs. Avgas needs to be considered. As for the fixed gear and no pressurization, this seems like a short haul commuter hauler. On the short legs the speed penalty for the fixed landing gear is not a big deal. And on short hops at low altitude the pressurization isn't necessary. Just a heavy expensive fluff.
Perhaps consumer demand may convince Tecnam to explore other engine options later in its life? I've seen that an electric is being trialled in Norway. Maybe a diesel version in the future could be popular where low lead is scarce?@@davem5333
Cool, as always! Would enjoy hearing you speak of the new Hondajet 2600: how good is it, will it make it to production, how long, engins from whom? Thanks
Seriously for the longest time I was favoring the old Cessna Skymasters for twin power, I never had issues with engine out issues with inline centerline thrust. A true workhorse in its day, always flew it in a four seat configuration which was all needed for my type of flying. What I would like to know what is the price of one of these 2012’s in Euros, import taxes into the USA must be crazy stupid. I reside in Europe now but I am curious to compare costs. Too bad they don’t have the 2006 with these Lycoming engines.
The Tecnam Twin has a future as a short Haul commuter, maybe like Long beach to LAX or Van Nuys, Big Bear or the Springs ??? looks big enough inside to pack Cargo but I didn't notice any big door for that purpose....You Nailed it.... Thanks for the ride...
Looks pretty nice. I personally hate the p2006 after working in them for a few years but this seems pretty good. Better cowlings with the new engines. Interior looks like it would break less after wear. Having it with fixed gear doesn’t mean I have to curse at the tail panels fir the pump and hopefully they moved the relays. I’d just need to see about the brake system and the brake rotors themselves. The brake rotors on a p2006 are barely bigger than a light sport category aircraft and like to bend if over heated and over used as compared to a da40 which has a much bigger break rotor with both aircraft having similar empty weights
Nice, aircraft where my elbows are not stuck in the side of my co :) ... is it just me, but those panels seem to move a lot when operating switches and push buttons. Nice video! $2.6 Million, on the pricey side but certainly cheaper than a TBM 940 at $4.3 Million which seems to require more care/maintenance. Seems to be a very stable and solid workhorse aircraft with low operating costs.
I can’t wrap my head around the market for the P2012. Its a nicely appointed plane but for $2.6mm you can buy a very nice Cessna Caravan and fly it for a year before reaching the acquisition price of a P2012. You will fly a littler faster, have better useful load and have PT6A-114 reliability. An A&P told me Cape Air was having issues with the engines.
There is a strong component and appeal for redundancy of twin engine. Caravan will burn more block time fuel but fuel costs will be similar due to cheaper jet fuel. High utilization operations will likely have higher engine maintenance costs due to HSI interval and component cycles. We’ll see though - Caravan very tough competition for sure. Thanks for watching.
For the type of flying cape air does(remember this aircraft is custom designed for cape air) caravan is not an option. Multiple short flights in an hour type of operation cycles out turbine engines way before they reach operating hour limit. Now you have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to overhaul an engine that has half of it's nominal tbo left. Piston engines only count hours. There is no cycle limit. They should have bought a turbine aircraft people have no idea what they are talking about. The engine overhaul costs would eat operators like cape air alive.
@@blegi1245 I didn’t suggest Cape Air should be flying Caravans. I said Cape Air may be having problems with the engines. Many operators run short hops with aircrafts with PT6 and other turbine engines. There are 135 operators like VeriJet flying short hops in single engine jets like SF50. The fact remains that it’s $2.6 mm for the Tecnam at 150 TAS doesn’t move the needle for me IMO and you don’t have nearly the National support as a Textron aircraft.
You probably scared the crap out of people on ground with that steep approach. 😅 That's a beautiful airplane though. There's competition for cessna's new sky courier I think they call it ?
I want to know how does this cost 3M ? Just one of these engines cost like 50k if im not mistaking. So a 100k for the 2 engines. A pt6 cost like 1million. So in the case of a quest kodiak 900 , its also a 3million price for a plane if im not mistaking. How did they ended with such a price for the p2012 !?
Great! What I see is yet one more Garmin avionics suite that needs ever constant software updates, especially with every malfunctioning part, that usually eats up my entire day or week and weekend depending on exactly what degree of 'Oh Sh--" we're into with an owner/operator screaming about warranty through the whole process. Cheers!
Great video Rich and this looks like a seriously nice airplane. I can't help but wonder how this machine compares to the Grand Caravan, in performance and load capacity. Obviously not going to carry as many people in the P2012 vs the GrandVan but I'm thinking about freight? The GrandVan, in my understanding, will carry up to 1200kg with full fuel and then planning happens at 165kts. Cost of purchase and ownership on this will be materially cheaper... Your thoughts?
Grand Caravan standard useful load based on standard airplane which is pretty light (no options) has more like a 1800kg useful load. Similar P2012 has a 1360kg useful load. Max seating in both airplanes is 10 but one of the things I was most impressed with in the P2012 was the feel of cabin and seating - it just had a very comfortable, airline feel to it. Obviously, the Caravan will be stiff competition for the P2012 but I see some advantages to it and I think it I’ll do well in the market, but won’t happen over night. Thanks for watching.
I'm very much interested in how the Tecnam P-volt will turn out. Wideroe is working with Tecnam and Rolls Royce to make an all electric passenger plane for the short small routes in the north of Norway. If successful it will make the transport clean and cheaper for the customers
