Hey Heir, thank you for giving Sol a shout out. I happened to have enough free time to catch some of his last two streams and they were very good. As far as some of your comments unfortunately for variety in Rome 2 most peoples of this loose time period like at least half their soldiers would have been armed with at least some throwing weapons usually javelins. It changes culture to culture but especially the "Barbarians" (Gallic, Britannic, Germanic, and Iberian tribes) most of their guys wore thick clothes and a helmet and carried a spear and shield, a bundle of javelins (3 to 5) and a sword, axe, or club as backup. The thing that hurts the Romans in game though is that Emperor Edition updated most Javelin stats but not the Pilum. Most precursors are the normal 32 damage (20 base 12 ap) but with 40 range instead of 80. The Roman Pilum is 30 damage (20 base 10 ap) and 40 range so the Pilum is just worse. Precursors before emperor edition used to be based on the light javelins with 29 damage (20 base 9 ap) so Roman precursors used to be better. Some units still have the light javelins like Iberian Swords, Royal Peltast and all the Marine units, but they aren't precursors, so they have the full 80 range. Also, you are correct on the camel's impact damage. While listed as heavy all the armored camel entities have a mass of 750 which is between the very heavy melee cav at 700 and the very heavy shock cav at 800. Besides chariots and elephants only super heavy cav (cataphracts) is higher at 1100, so armored camels are the 3rd heaviest mount in the game and pack a wallop on the charge.
Thanks for sharing Heir! This game is a classic demonstration of why subcommanders is so fun and I was pumped to be a part of it! I’ll gladly sacrifice my cav for Sol any day! (-Zoccom)
Similar to you Heir, I do not have time. That said, I struggle in campaign battles on Normal setting. I am fairly confident I would be posterized by pretty much any player with even a modicum of experience and know-how. It would be embarrassing. Lol
i think a pila doesn't destoy a shield it just makes it impossible to carry by adding a lot of weight where its hard to cary meaning you couldn't use you shield anymore
Javelins were used commonly, among many other throwables. In-fact, there are many examples, some in Herodotus for example, where everything is thrown, rocks, sticks, anything. It's always easier to kill another man from a distance, so yes javelins, rocks, anything were used!
Most ancient or classical armies used copious amounts of javelins back in the day. Same with slingers, throwing things is better than getting up close and personal. Most cavalry at the time did nothing but throw javelins light spears, very few cavalry actually rode in close combat. Most battles were simply junior men throwing javelins in early skirmishes then see which skirmishes pull off better, losing army retreats to a hill and both then call it quits. Rome 2 actually made skirmishing the most important. It's the amount of heavy cavalry which is not quite accurate. Horses were expensive to equip and maintain.
@@Bubinni I agree but I don't know if I would call it buggy. Yes, you can still get them to "bug out" when you turn on pike formation while they are already engaged or when charges have spread the unit out, but that actually happens a lot less since patch 20. The real issue is they just aren't designed for how combat works in the game engine. The pike formation actually turns off a lot of default unit behavior to get them to work properly but in doing that makes them not work properly (It's kind of hard to explain). The biggest issue is that they just have no offensive power at all and literally require units to kill themselves on the pikes. There are a couple mods that try to fix it but even they don't seem to be perfect.
@@howitzer551 The biggest issue with Pikes is that the unit itself doesn't really seem to push the enemy when engaged and just stands still. They're very passive when engaged. Plus any competent player will just skirmish your pikemen away then you have nothing to stop infantry from bulldozing you
