4x 2.5GbE Intel J4125 Firewall that Finally Works with pfSense!

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We check out the 4x 2.5GbE Intel J4125 firewall that finally works with pfSense (as of pfSense 2.6.0) and absolutely knocks the socks off of an ISP-provided router/ WiFi unit. Plus, it is an inexpensive fanless unit making it even better.
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00:00 Introduction
02:24 Fanless pfSense 2.5GbE Firewall Hardware Overview
09:39 Why 2.5GbE is Important
13:10 Spectrum ISP Router-WiFi versus pfSense
20:26 Why use an ISP Router instead of pfSense
23:27 Wrap-up

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@LSUEngineer1978 2 года назад

Patrick as always thanks for the professional and fun to watch video review. Happened across the Network Chuck video on basic Pfsense install video last week and seeing yours has convinced me to make the Pfsense plunge on this hardware. My Linksys router is a little tired even though it’s easy to aggregate to my 2.5/5/10Gb internal network and supports VPN. You, Lawrence Systems & Network Chuck make it easy to stay on top of useful hardware & software for some of us home network nerds. Time to upgrade. Time to learn Pfsense.

@ZhechenZhu 2 года назад

Great video. Surprised to see this product being featured here. In fact they have become very popular in China where many people run OpenWRT and VPN software on them. Performance is great, power, throughput and efficiency etc. For those concerned with quality and longevity, the primary points of failure are the mSATA drive and the fan (if included in the design). The OEM mSATA drive tends to get corrupted after some time and OpenWRT is not happy with that. Fixable but better to use better drives or sata drives. The fans on some of the active cooled versions will fail after maybe a year or two. Finding replacement fan is difficult. These fanless designs should hold for a long time. I use these exclusively for routers. In China, you can get the same model minus ram and drive for a little over $100.

@blunden2 2 года назад

Do these boxes generally have a place to mount regular 2.5" SATA SSDs?

@tolpacourt 2 года назад

Do they have CCP spyware chips in them?

@ZhechenZhu 2 года назад

@@blunden2 Depends on the chasis design. I think the model in Patrick's videos should hold a SATA drive. Better verify with the vendor.

@Apex180 2 года назад

OpenWRT or OPNSense on this ?

@souk-tv 2 года назад

Thanks for the info

@jacj2490 2 года назад

Truly a great job. I've been looking for these mini pcs with 2.5Gb forever. I was even waiting for IIoT-I530 "Maybe STH can review" once release but these are more suitable from Pricing point of view. I'm using pfsense to aggregate four ISPs which comes in the range of 2.5Gb & I'm using a pfsense VM just because of that on a 10Gb which is very inconvenient during upgrade or any Hypervisor maintenance task. Thanks STH

@babagandu 2 года назад

Yes great for streaming Quran

@congenio 2 года назад

What a coincidence: I used the Supermicro E300-9D-4CN8TP you recommended a while ago as an OpnSense box, only to find that the power draw was massive (75 Watts idle even when used only as a firewall). When I replaced that box just now, I chose exactly this box (even the HUNSN variant). OpnSense 22.1 supports the i225-LM as well. There are currently devices like this coming out with the Elkhart Ridge CPUs as well, which are even more performant than the J4125. They also support NVMe drives, which this one does not.

@ArturKania 2 года назад

Thanks for this review. Qotom & Supermicro were taking too long on releasing a mini with 2.5gb nics so I picked one up. Negotiates 2.5gb with my modem and pfsense handles my 1.44gbit internet like a champ!

@carlosmolina6073 2 года назад

Thank you!! Please keep revewing 2.5 Gbe equipment.

@alfblack2 2 года назад

thanks for the review. I was wondering about these devices, but didn't want to jump in with the investment w/o much info. Good thing I waited for the 3rd hardware revision. Hopefully I get to buy the updated hardware.

@joe28753 2 года назад

I'm running OPNsense on a similar cheap random no name Chinese box (1Gb though), and I agree, it's awesome. Super stable, runs for months no issues. Passive cooling, no fan, so it's silent. Only ever reboot it when applying security patches. I keep finding cool new plugins and packages where I'm like "wait this can do that too?" bandwidthd for plotting internet usage of all my devices, getting into ACME and HAProxy to host some random things at home. I didn't even think I needed this fancy firewall/router until I set it up. It's great. I've seen all these 2.5Gb devices coming out and have been looking at upgrading, so it's cool to see this video.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

Yea, this one costs a bit more, but it is a bit different so I thought it might be interesting to show folks.

@gregdziewit6945 2 года назад

I set mine on a usb powered fan, it drops it a few degrees and cost just a few bucks.

@clausdk6299 2 года назад

I've had one of these boxes for a long time and it works REALLY well. Crazy stable vs the router provided by my ISP.

@longbeach225 Год назад

And more probably secured than any ISP router.

@joshuawaterhousify 2 года назад

I was pleasantly surprised to hear the 6100 called out specifically for what you'd look prefer. I picked one up a couple of months ago (took a WHILE to get it, but I'm happy for it) and then realised I botched the setup so I can only use one port until I reconfigure it (forgot to set up bridging...mostly due to being way over my head, but I think I've worked out the bugs in what I was trying to do). Haven't bothered yet, as I have other things that have taken priority (just running through a Gb switch right now to make do), but when I have the time or move house, I'm setting it up as I intended. So looking forward to having 2.5Gb to most of my devices, and potentially 10Gb to others!

@lesumsi 2 года назад

Great video! I was actually considering buying this thing a while ago. Now I've ordered it!

@Fede0068 2 года назад

from who?

@Zhadnost 2 года назад

I had a previous version of this which would randomly die without warning, no kernel warnings generated just before, the whole machine would just halt. After replacing everything else, the problem turned out to be the Infinieon (IIRC) SSD that it was shipped with. The board was great but it's worth being careful about the bundled components.

@I4get42 2 года назад

Great video, as always, and I love the exploration! I'm always tempted by the roll-your-own firewalls like this. But I keep coming back to my Asus 86u with the wifi turned off and a good Aruba AP for wifi. I just don't like exotic pets for actual infrastructure. And I want those switched LAN ports more than 2.5gig so far. I think that multigig will truly be accessible when home "routers" have four 2.5 or 5gig LAN ports.

@andjohn 2 года назад

Asus 86u doesn't have the throughput that this has or the horsepower for excellent QOS and other analytics. If you have sub-1G internet, and until you get fiber at home, you probably don't need this.

@I4get42 2 года назад

@John Andrus Hello there! It is indeed going to have higher routed throughput than my 86u. But I've got gig fiber to the house and mine routes at full gig speed, so I'm good for now. For now, the reliable switched gig lan ports for internal traffic are more important to me than the software bridged 2.5 gig ports.

@zeendaniels5809 Год назад

Exactly my thoughts. I've been looking for a good routing solution and this seemed like a good option. However, I'm not using any of the fancier capabilities nor I need the horsepower offered... So I keep coming back to my original plan: a GL iNet Opal "travel" router with the WiFi disabled, gigabit dumb switch and some access points (TP Link maybe). I was thinking of using a wired router, but I couldn't find anything as powerful as the Opal in the same price range and something DIY like the OrangePi R1 Plus is out of the question with that pesky USB - Ethernet bridge. Good to know someone else is traveling the same road as me 🤜🏼

@jolness1 2 года назад

I am glad to see a little more adoption of higher speed NICs in the mainstream. When my HDD powered TrueNAS box can easily saturate a 1Gbit link, it's obvious that it is time to upgrade. The extra speed is nice to have for file transfers.

@robertt9342 2 года назад

A single modern hdd sustained transfer rate has been above a gigabit for more than a decade. So it’s been overdue for a while now.

@Shoult55 2 года назад

I used an old Haswell powered Dell 1L box with a 2 port 1GbE Intel nic inside running pfSense 2.6 (think it was 2.4x when I first started). It's been in service for a few years now. Yes, it limits me to 1 GbE from the firewall to the first switch, but my Comcast service is only 250 dn/10 up so there's no point is faster nics in the firewall box. The rest of my home network is all Intel 10GbE RJ45. I also use the same hardware/software setup at our

@haroldfinch1955 Год назад

Something I found really interesting with this device is being able to install ESXi on it and running pfsense and windows side by side on it.

@yugen042 2 года назад

Patrick is getting more and more excited with every single video.

@JerryShugars 2 года назад

I replaced my celeron J1900 OPNSense router with one of these. It nearly doubled my download speeds. It came with PFsense but installing OPNSense was easy enough.

@YeOldeTraveller 2 года назад

My current pfSense box is an i5 with 6x 1GbE. I have an EnGenius PoE 1GbE switch and a EnGenius Wifi 6 AP powered from the switch. I don't currently have anything in the local network with better than 1GbE, and monitoring doesn't show any of the ports nearing saturation. It is good to know that these exist, so when my traffic gets to the point I need more, there were be options. I really hope 10GbE will be better supported when that day comes.

@hedikintheoriginal 2 года назад

i have one of the older versions with only 1gbit interfaces, but its a great unit

@scottw6831 2 года назад

I had one with a J1900 in it and it literally died three days ago. It had been running 24/7 in a small business environment for five years. Looks like I know what I'm getting as a replacement unit

@hedikintheoriginal 2 года назад

@@scottw6831 that sucks. But ya this would be a nice upgrade

@gregdziewit6945 2 года назад

@@scottw6831 These things are cheap enough to have a spare standing by. I even have my spare ready to go with the setup config already loaded.

@RicoCantrell 2 года назад

Well, looks like I need a new toy! Thanks Patrick!

@Bust0ut 2 года назад

Been waiting for this forever! Got tired of waiting and bought an Asus GT-AX6000 instead.

@luukkuwet 2 года назад

I used those with 1G nics. One had a 'funny' feature. Sometimes it didn't reboot properly but went to bios.

@OstenTV_DK 2 года назад

Man. I just bought one of these units a month ago. Same price, same CPU, but only Gigabit Ethernet. They even updated the listing I bought to I225. I feel so sad now. The OpenVPN crypto performance is still batter than my old J1900 though.

@dangaines405 2 года назад

Great content! Thanks!

@E-dirts 2 года назад

As I was watching this video, I was also searching for Intel's I225 card. I am currently using I210 and was thinking of upgrading but as soon as he said at the end that it's not well supported! Bam, I was done.

@DrTune 2 года назад

Patrick how much coffee do you drink before doing the intro to each vid? You're such an excitable puppy! ;-) It is nice though!

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

I usually try to record most of these at 5AM or 11PM so that I do not have any coffee in my system. Otherwise I get too excited and speak too quickly.

@cyruschan5507 2 года назад

yeah i do have a dedicated firewall/router machine at my home server. It is running in a VM tho, and need a OpenWRT enabled wifi access point to recognize the Vlans. But it all worth it to have full control and partition you devices

@jfkastner 2 года назад

Spectrum uses those WiFi APs in our area to provide WiFi service to paying customers outside their home address - so when they are away from home they can go online someplace else with their 'home' account credentials .... that will slow down your service, and potentially 'clog up' the AP to a point where a reboot is needed

@lwakefield08 2 года назад

Spectrum installs a separate modem and AP for the Hotspots. This is completely separate from the business network. The APs they use are Ruckus APs for those hotspots. Now the gateway they use is a garbage Sagemcom Wi-Fi 6 and should be thrown in the trash. I was in house business service tech for 10 years. I’ve installed hundreds of those. Most of the time in rural areas I would talk the business into not installing it as it would be two more devices that the business would have to power and when you’re the only business for miles it didn’t make sense.

@danielsmith6834 2 года назад

The significant reduction in latency you saw with the PFsense box -- that could be purely down to FQ_CODEL and the reduction in BufferBloat? I know it's been in mainline OpenWRT since 2014 (thanks to Dave Taht!), I'm not familiar enough with *BSD/PFsense to know when it was added.

@rascalwind 2 года назад

Would be good to see the throughput testing on the lines to see what they can do under load.

@casperghst42 2 года назад

Just as a side note, the TinyPilot2 is +300€ in Europe. For that amount of money I can power an IPMI for a very long time. They should have added V-Pro to the tiny box.

@Error-403 2 года назад

I have the older 1Gbps model, later updates of pfSense have made it way much better! This thing is also more than capable of running Windows, not that you should XD

@vonkruel 2 года назад

For my home network I just run OPNsense in a VM under Proxmox. With PCI-E passthrough I provide an Intel I350-T2 card for OPNsense to use. It works great, but it's a compromise, too, since maintenance on my server (when it does happen) renders my firewall (and all the services it provides) temporarily unavailable. However, my server isn't down very much (with uptimes often exceeding 1 year), and it's easy to make regular backups of my OPNsense VM along with my other VMs and containers. Overall I like this setup -- it's a compromise that works for me.

@ztech-consulting 2 года назад

That's exactly how I use OPNSense and doing maintenance on my server means that the whole internet goes down. So this video's timing was amazing. I was looking at a protectli, but ended up getting the newer version of this with a Pentium N6005, should provide a decent bump in performance over the Celeron J4125

@jj-icejoe6642 2 года назад

FW on a VM is a big NONO

@vonkruel 2 года назад

@@jj-icejoe6642 In a home network? Calm down.

@tomf4474 2 года назад

Lol, Patrick I live in Austin as well, fellow computer dork, running Pfsense and can’t wait to upgrade my network with 2.5GbE.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

Sweet! Hopefully when things slow down maybe we do a STH meetup again in Austin like we did in Silicon Valley

@tomf4474 2 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo I can’t wait!

@namyun2743 2 года назад

A Spectrum user, and Time Warner before that since 1999. I alays avoided using ISP hardware and this has been further validation why.

@jaffarbh Год назад

For folks that have network stability/performance issues with pfSense on unsupported hardware like this box. Try to disable network card hardware accelerated options (like large checksum). This can cause a lot of packet fragmentation and really crash the network throughput. Good luck.

@aGj2fiebP3ekso7wQpnd1Lhd 2 года назад

Apples and oranges. I've used tiny pfsense boxes to run 100 person voip call centers flawlessly. FreeBSD has top-notch networking.

@sagarsriva 2 года назад

Interesting. What plug-in, software and voip hardware you used?

@aGj2fiebP3ekso7wQpnd1Lhd 2 года назад

@@sagarsriva Vici & Zoiper over IAX

@sagarsriva 2 года назад

@@aGj2fiebP3ekso7wQpnd1Lhd interesting, thank you

@sagarsriva 2 года назад

great video.thx

@paulantoine1696 2 года назад

Almost all the ISP router/wifi boxes I've encountered need rebooting weekly. Usually the WiFi loses routing capability... I've checked the wired ports and found no issue whilst the box is in this state. It's why I've entirely abandoned such boxes for all my clients and anyone I care about otherwise, lol. pfSense on ancient PCs, cheap J4125 boxes etc. simply hands down beat all ISP boxes on every metric. As someone who is frequently tasked with diagnosing Internet connectivity issues for friends and family... pfSense makes my life many times easier :-)

@TheDillio187 2 года назад

It would be cool if someone made a rack mount version of these.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

Usually there is one as volumes go up.

@DavidCNavas 2 года назад

Hah! I'd like a 6100 box as well, been waiting since early December -- that's definitely not a "call Netgate over the weekend and get a box" deal. ;->

@benjamintrathen6119 2 года назад

It's about bloody time 2.5GbE gets widely adopted.

@-Good4Y0u 2 года назад

I have a similar form-factor device with an Atom in it. 4x 1gig nics though.

@redtails 2 года назад

I'm kinda interested in a box like this as a low-powered server/nas, raspberrypi has been poorly available for a long time, and the J4125 isn't a bad cpu at all. your thoughts?

@agustinbellingeri7427 Год назад

I've just bought a mini PC, similar to this one. Mine has the Intel Celeron N5100 / 4GB DDR4 / 64GB M.2 // $160 on Aliexpress (it's sligthly lower than the N5105 but its energy consumption it quite lower because of its variable CPU speed). Even if the price were the same I still will go for the N5100. (Its computational power is similar to the Netgate 6100 so it´s serious stuff)

@reneb5222 2 года назад

Hi Patrick. Great job as always. Great timing as well mine one is halfway CN and EU :). Was wondering did you install Pfsense bare metal or in Linux and then do Pfsense install?

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

The one in my hand is running bare metal, and this reply is going through that exact unit.

@LSUEngineer1978 2 года назад

Network Chuck (sharing network goodness from Dallas ha ha ) has a basic Pfsense install video on this same device that Patrick has.

@reneb5222 2 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Did you see that in the BIOS under advanced you can set auto power on after a power outage.

@weifengmao 2 года назад

The Jasper Lake version of this is already out in China, there is a nvme slot as well (only PCIE 3x2 though if I remember correctly).

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

N6005 is on order. Unknown ETA

@BobHannent 2 года назад

I was attempting to resurrect a C2550 Supermicro mini-ITX system since my broadband has been upgraded to Gigabit and my ER-X-SFP can't handle the load. But you've forced me to push the button and buy one of these.

@jfkastner 2 года назад

Nice, thanks! I wonder IF the CPU is throttled though - it's got a 10W TDP, and you say idle is about 5W ... ?

@karsnoordhuis4351 2 года назад

Hmm, interesting. That other msata slot appears to be a slot for a modem. You could plop in a 5g modem in it for failover!

@paulsander5433 2 года назад

I've seen pfSense being mentioned more on RU-vid lately, and less about OpenWRT. And nothing comparing them. How would you compare OpenWRT running on inexpensive but specialized hardware like the Espressobin or the Mochabin to pfSense running on one of these little boxes?

@h4j3w3 2 года назад

"We're talking about 4,5 Watts when you don't have NICs connected." - Even though this is decent in itself it still more than double the power drawn 24x7 by my €59,- Mikrotik MIPS based router with all hard driven 1Gb LAN ports populated. I know, I know, that's 'only a single gbit' and RouterOS which doesn't have the same feature-set/use case as pfSense but still. Prices for electricity are constantly rising (at least here in Europe) and x86 has lost the edge to ARM and MIPS when it comes to performance per watt and therefore 24x7 use in (network) appliances. Make the world a slightly better place, go ARM!😉😊

@TheExileFox 2 года назад

ISP boxes can be okay. However Ping Communications are used with several ISP's and these boxes are built so cheaply the antennas barely stand up on their own. Ontop of that, you have to call support to do anything. You can't even set your own WiFi password or SSID or anything.

@lordhelmet6518 2 года назад

Is there any particular reason you recommend the J4125 based board vs the N5105 from the same manufacturer? All things being equal (pricing included) the N5105 is a faster processor.

@zwstyles621 2 года назад

Did I just see a SIM card slot? 9:06, labeled SIM, are we saying this has the potential to take a cellular modem and that can be used for failover?

@Asdayasman 2 года назад

I can't explain in words how much I despise ISP-provided routers.

@jond1536 2 года назад

My "guess" on the latency is that the spectrum unit is also sending metrics to spectrum, that is the difference. IMHO

@christopherjackson2157 2 года назад

I like pfsense and I use it but I gotta say they don't have great driver support for newer nics. Cool product!

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

That is also a FreeBSD challenge TBH. Linux is much further ahead in that regard.

@kenzieduckmoo 2 года назад

we just need pfsense to do like truenas did and release on linux

@revealing1372 2 года назад

Are the MTU sizes different between the routers? That may explain the speed difference.

@keemankeelam1660 2 года назад

hesung hw is so good.

@MichaelSmith-fg8xh 2 года назад

I've felt a web speed benefit from running (ad, malware, tracking etc) block lists on pfsense. I'm blocking 1M+ sites. It speeds things like news sites a lot (drops ~40% of web requests for my fave news site).

@MrHasie 2 года назад

These custom or freely available?

@MichaelSmith-fg8xh 2 года назад

@@MrHasie Free... Same lists (for the most part) you use in pihole. Pfsense loads them in pfblocker (firewall block). Opnsense loads them in Unbound (DNS based block)

@MrHasie 2 года назад

@@MichaelSmith-fg8xh Thanks.

@Daniel15au Год назад

Firewalla Gold Plus is going to have the same CPU... It'll be an interesting product.

@ruffleduffle 2 года назад

Since you've mentioned a couple times in this video that this is in case you're using bare metal Pfsense. Could you talk about running Pfsense on one of these boxes virtualised? Would this work through pass-through ethernet? Thanks!

@Pyrichia 2 года назад

Don’t run a router virtualized. It’s just smarter to run bare metal for something that critical.

@carloosgongora1701 2 года назад

can you do a video tutorial how to wired the internet connection in the unit that you have for pfsense 👍🏻

@BrutusTheUgly 2 года назад

Aliexpress for a firewall yes! I would buy and use it, but only when I will be ok to fly on an airplane from Aliexpress...

@MrIous99 2 года назад

on rare occasions, you can also find one with 5xIntel i225 and J4125 Celeron (so far only on Aliexpress). Do you know anything about that? is it still basically the same board, except for the additional port?

@jaykuptake 2 года назад

So my local ISP just started 2gb connection and I got a new DOCIS 3.1 and I went with the CM1200 which has link aggregation. However, I'm having issues finding routers that support link aggregation. Only devices that I can find are the ugly spider/crab all in one wifi routers. Any suggestions?

@jahantv5535 2 года назад

I know this device support Virtualization. But, does it allow NIC passthrough? I want to setup pfsense as VM and passthrough at least three NICs.

@bigchew3149 2 года назад

Cool video.. i have ran PfSense for several years now and i really like it ..my house hold has tons of devices + l built/manage our home media servers/Back ups with 2 Supermicro X9 servers running UnRaid & 2 more That Runs TrueNas/FreeNas dual E5 2696 v2's in the main Unraid server & Dual E5-2680 v2's in the main FreeNas/TrueNas & a Dell R210 II with a Xeon quad core with 8gb of ecc ram and 120gb ssd & I have saw it over 50% load from time to time all on a Mikrotik 10gb sfp+ 8 port switch i was thinking about giving one of them a try for a cousin to stop the ads mainly & another for our church i think that little box would be a great upgrade !

@jp_baril 2 года назад

What's your usage of Unraid and TrueNAS ? Any pros/cons, preferences of each ?

@bigchew3149 2 года назад

@@jp_baril I use UnRaid as my main media server for plex as well as backups and some vm's and a bunch of docker containers like adblocking and mac vm's to i have 10gb network set up separate from my 1gb network that ties every thing together and the second of each Truenas & Unraid is just their backups ! FreeNas/TrueNas I really like as its way faster with 10gb than unraid is and its zfs filesystem is about the best their is imo as far as reliable & rock solid data storage it can also do vm's just not as easy an a lot harder to pass a gpu through where Unraid is really easy to learn an set up/configure with just a fuw clicks as freenas/truenas has a litle bit of a learning curve ..i would say unraid is the easyest & quickest to get up and running but it cost a fuw bucks but well worth it imo & TrueNas/FreeNas is well Free .lol. I run older Enterprise grade systems like the supermicro X9 with Dual xeons & the E52696 v2's & 2680v2's but my oldest system is a supermicro X8DTH-6F bord with dual X5675's & i just cant make myself replace/retire it as it still works as good as it ever did its just older than Methuselah but it never gives me any problems an still 100% rock solid stable after running 24/7 all these years..64gb ecc ram 1tb cashe ssd 10gb nic evga 850w gold rated psu..still to good to just retire..but i know a lot would ! ! i love older hardware to its just fun to playaround and learn with out breaking the bank !

@jessietomich8043 2 года назад

Before I got a few 2.5G ethernet switches 5 people streaming video and my GF running a VPN to work from the office there were times I couldn't get files to print on the printer. Simply making the link from the study to 2.5G fixed the dance those packets need to do to feed two computers two printers and two scanners. The problem only existed when everyone was home at the same time but it was frustrating to have to wait until the end of her work day to send a file to the printer or scan a document to my phone. I was lucky with my providers access point this time it provides good WIFI coverage. They gave it to me free of charge so of course I tried it before getting another access point.

@hjaltioj 2 года назад

Hi Great video, just ordered one :) got the 1gig version. but want 2.5gig :D is it possible to install coreboot on it?

@carlosfedericolopezspindol3103 Год назад

I've currently seen this size/version comes with N100. Is that right? Any idea if it will support an NVMe drive? At least double the speed of a SATA drive? I've seen most N100 cheap units only support SATA on the M.2 slot.

@dreamcat4 2 года назад

hey that box looks great. but just also wondering (as a point of comparison) if theres anything else similar out there with an amd ryzen processor, suitable for running pfsense? perhaps not with the 2.5g ports i suppose? or does not any amd option make enough sense to be worth it? enough PF sense. hehehe

@mando7558 2 года назад

Patrick, what business AP's do you use?

@CristianHeredia0 2 года назад

I’m curious what did you replace the ubiquity APs with ?

@samuelschwager 2 года назад

I'm using a pfSense VM on VMWare ESXi. Works great and I can easily increase number of cores or RAM without changing the hardware.

@RockTouching 2 года назад

Do you have a backup plan in case your hypervisor crashes?

@samuelschwager 2 года назад

@@RockTouching I guess mobile hotspot with my phone. But a hardware firewall can also break.

@237311 7 месяцев назад

@@samuelschwager how can this work with a modem that has 2.5GbE connecting to the ESXi host?

@samuelschwager 7 месяцев назад

@@237311 My internet is only 600Mb/s, so not sure. Well you have the physical connections to the host and then you have virtual bridges with the normal VMs and the pfSense VM. Not sure what the current max speed for the virtual bridges is atm, I haven't updated my ESXi in a few years.

@btudrus 2 года назад

How does this compare to PC Engines APU 2/3/4 ?

@ricardopcunha Год назад

is it possible to use this mini pc + pfsense to aggregate 2 network ports as 2 WANs and do a fail safe load balance? sorry for this newbie question

@tomdillan 2 года назад

Did the SIM card slot under the wireless card show up in pfsense?

@LokiScarletWasHere 2 года назад

Would it hurt the lan-to-wan performance to run radius and other lightweight servers on this?

@BarryBazzawillWilliams 2 года назад

Could you compare this to the raspberry pi CM4 with the DFROBOT router carrier board. Yes it will be 1gbps but I currently don't have 2.5gbps

@lucacolaetta 2 года назад

Hey seems there's a sim slot in there what is it for? Can it act as a 5g modem?

@robertfontaine3650 2 года назад

I've burnt through 2 old dell pcs for my pfsense box. At this point I am overdue to break down and buy something exactly like this. I noticed there is another motherboard with 6 ports for about the same price with the intel C stepping ethernet chip. With 6 ports I could retire my old gbe hp 1850 switch.

@Catge 2 года назад

Would this be able to handle 1 GB symmetrical? I could not find much testing on website.

@redtails 2 года назад

I get the skepticism regarding getting a box with an OS pre-installed, as you don't know what kind of shady thing was installed on it.. but yeah that's exactly what an ISP routerbox is.

@Ck87JF 2 года назад

Yes, however it's a different context. A standard user isn't going to know or care what software is running on their stuff as long as they can watch cat videos.

@michaelfisher1683 2 года назад

Do you do any meet ups around ATX? If so would love to hang out and connect.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

Not yet. I am in ATX only 6 of the next 31 days. En route to Zurich right now

@prgnify 2 года назад

I stopped using traceroute a long time ago, after someone introduced me to pathping. Which is also for me personally one of the main drawbacks from Linux to Windows, as mtr is just not up to par. Still daily Linux tho

@guyboisvert66 2 года назад

As a Linux SysAdmin and Network Engineer, for me Linux is prefer Windows in all my daily tasks. But if you prefer Windows, cool for you: It has some good sides depending on your needs (I have a Windows 10 VM in my laptop, i use KVM). MTR, which i don't use often, is an OK tool and i don't see how "pathping" is better (again, cool if you prefer it!). As for this little box on the video, it's nice. But i stop using pfsense / OpenWRT like 15 years ago. I'll have to check them again, just curious! I run a combination of RouterOS (which IMHO one of the best), Ryu / Faucet and SONiC (along with NX-OS, COMWARE, Fabric OS, etc). In the cloud, i use RouterOS too: it's called CHR (Cloud Hosted Router). It's easy to test CHR along with pFsense and other stuff with GNS3. Just my .02 if it can help somebody!

@Pit_stains 2 года назад

can you installed ESXI on it for boot; then PFsense on top of that as a VM?

@angelorestrepo 2 года назад

Seen this box on Amazon, thanks for the link does 2.5 SSD work on this extract box? Sounds like this is almost as good as the Protecti box at half the price.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

You can use the cable to add a 2.5" drive

@philou961 2 года назад

Built a matx with g3900 4gig ram 250g nvme for around 450$ Canadian roupees. Draw around 20w with light use

@PileOfEmptyTapes 2 года назад

You should be able to do better than 20 W - people have gotten Skylake systems to around 6 W in idle with PicoPSU, a good ATX (generally 80Plus Gold / Platinum rated) supply only needs a few watts more. [1] I would check: ASPM for DMI and PCIe on? Some boards require SATA mode to be switched from AHCI to RAID for NVMe power saving to work for some reason, otherwise power consumption is a few watts higher than with a SATA SSD. SATA LPM should be on either way. CPU package C-states up to at least C7 enabled and actually being used? (I had to apply some extra persuasion via ThrottleStop.) Render C6 (RC6) on? [1] Not sure what you can get ahold of in Canada, I used a be quiet! Pure Power 11 400W for a basic office machine recently.

@BerndHhn 2 года назад

Something like this with 10GbE would be nice...

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

Baby steps. We need to get beyond 1GbE.

@BerndHhn 2 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo True... 2.5GBase-T is at least somewhat faster than 1000BASE-T...

@tudalex 2 года назад

You tell me? I moved countries recently and here 10gbps is old and 25gbps is the new home internet default... You don't really have a lot of options for 25gbps they sell you a mikrotik router that they themselves will tell you it is pretty underwhelmed for 25gbps

@prostaknaivnyj5976 2 года назад

@@tudalex 25gbe? wich country did yu move to?

@carloosgongora1701 2 года назад

nice video, 1 question.. it's there in the market same box with same hardware but with more than 4 RJ45 ports ? like 8 for example not a switch.. thank you ..new suscriber 👍🏻

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

There will be a 5-port in the next few weeks/ months. At some point probably 8-port. Right now 8-port ones are 1GbE. The little J4125 SoCs these run on I think only have 6x PCIe lanes so four devices each using a lane makes it tougher. The N6005 systems are just starting to hit, but those are looking like 4-ports as well even though they have 8x PCIe lanes.

@tuanbe 2 года назад

"Why are you so exited about it?" clearly you haven't seen any Patrick videos then

@jimmymifsud1 2 года назад

We buy a device that uses a similar chassis, it acts as a master node for a wireless mesh network. It’s $11k USD

@daninmanchester 2 года назад

Nice, but I don't think I'll be replacing my thin client solution now it is set up and working. If it had a couple of multi gig ports that would be tempting.

@KuhanVincek 2 года назад

Can you please do a review of Mele 2Q mini PC? :)

@dosansss 2 года назад

Im still looking for wife permission to buy my next router. Right now im still rocking 2008 core 2 duo dell optiplex for my home pfsense.. Lol

@denvera1g1 2 года назад

now i need 6x M.2 slots for a killer microNAS

@xgeko2 2 года назад

Hey Patrick, I was wondering speaking of pfsense there are a lot of users out there wanting to do something like setup a vpn connection to PIA or other vpn providers with acceleration support. I was wondering if you had any advice especially since pfsense releasing pfsense+ to other hardware and we can now use intel quick assist etc.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

We did QAT acceleration some time ago. Maybe it is worth going over again as we get into the Ice Lake-D platforms.