"I never had the best genetics", has a 20 inch wrist circumference. He got his muscles by eating egg whites and he never took any steroids other than the steroids in inorganic chicken. All jokes aside, I believe him when he says that he doesn't know what half of these new terms are. He seems too dumb to memorize the terms.
Steroids has a lot of benefits, particularly for muscle recovery and strength. Personally, as an athlete I use anabolic steroids to speed up recovery from intense training or injuries. They also really help in rebuilding muscle tissue and enhancing performance.
Test Enan is commonly used in hormone replacement therapy to address low testosterone levels, promoting muscle growth and improving overall well-being. Tren, on the other hand, greatly enhances muscle size and strength. Speeds up recovery from injuries as well.
Totally agree. Steroids helped me recover faster and maintain muscle mass, especially during intense training or after injury. It's amazing how they can support bone health as well, which is crucial for people with conditions like osteoporosis.
There’s no doubt to the benefits of steroids. Honestly, it has greatly impacted my life. It played a major role in achieving my desired physique. People should learn not to abuse these substances and act like they are all bad.
Hey everyone, I’m looking for reliable sources for both steroids and protein supplements. I know it’s crucial to be cautious with these, especially with steroids, so I want to make sure I’m getting them from trustworthy sources. For protein supplements, I’m also interested in recommendations for reputable brands. Any suggestions or advice on where to find safe and high quality options?
I’ve been on Rich Piana’s natural biodynamic fair trade paleo raw diet and never felt better. My one rep max kegel squeeze went from 5 to 50 in a week.
I have absolutely no issue with using steroids. My main issue is with these bodybuilders starting their own "supplements/protein lines" and trying to sell people on them as if that is the only thing that got them to that level. If you use drugs and you're open about it then you're no issue to me.
That's it man be honest and I have no issues. Lie to me and I have a million issues. Young kids are buying supplements and using everything in the store to get big as they are fooled by the so called natty bodybuilders.
@@cobus8870 I agree. Also the fans want to see monsters, they want to see guys like mcguire and bonds hitting 500' home runs, LeBrons tearing up the court..etc. but then they all get upset whe an athlete takes steroids to bring their strength and ability to the next level... actuary the next 10 levels. Steroid should just be made legal cause we all know every single bodybuilder, football player, baseball.. etc are on or they wouldn't be able to keep up at the pro level against others that are using it.... plus the fans want to see the best possible. Steroids are everywhere now. It used to be you had to know someone that knew a guy, now you just do a search go on a forum and click a flashy banner and order anything you want
Their supplements don't say that at all. Steroids are an essential part of the professional bodybuilding scene, but diet and supplements are as essential. The most essential part of ALL is the work ethic. Giving up so much with a very slim chance of being the best. Like them or not, professional bodybuilders work very hard, every day. The mindset needed to be the best in the world is incredible. Most people criticising bodybuilders are probably drinking too much, smoking too much or eating too much.
My son and I spent 3 hours in the gym talking to him my friend had a grand opening of his nutrition shop. Very very nice guy very intelligent. But thru out the entire time. Was like that no smile look mad.💪😂😂😂
Yes he sounds really empty. He lived in a "box" and "hanged up" when somebody called with problems. No emotions what so ever. Drugs, train, food and sleep. Sounds quite empty.
They've been integral to everything except baseball since the 1960s (and some things from the 1950s). The baseball people from the 1970s eventually learned that fitness and strength (artificially supplemented and all) was a lot better than just running around taking stimulants.
I feel like the fitness community should be more open about steroids... personal experiences provide a totally different aspect of knowledge as opposed to just reading about them.
Drugs alone won't make you Mr. Olympia, but at the same time you won't be Mr. Olympia without the drugs. That freakish size and leanness is not attainable naturally. I'm glad people are being more open about it. I remember like so many others when young and thinking after reading Arnold's bodybuilding books I could look like that naturally. It was disappointing to learn the drugs were necessary. After absorbing that reality, I decided never to take that step and I still looked a ton better than if I had not lifted at all. So it was all worth it without the drugs.
I read Arnold's Encyclopedia of bodybuilding religiously in my teens. Trained 2.5 to 3 hrs a day, 6 days a week. I gained a ton but never even looked like a Frank Zane. What would of been nice someone would said" This guy has a ffmi of 25 you can kind of look like this guy."instead of lying to me and telling to eat 80 eggs a day.
BUT the sad part is that everyone talks shit about bodybuilders using steroids, just because you can see it on their body but nobody said anything to other proffesional athletes in other genres of sport. I mean tour de france guys are on freacking steroids, just because they are not big doesnt mean they arent taking it. Olympic swimmers, like when the russian girl got caught and people she beat were only mili seconds behind made it so obvious that many of them take it. Shit even olympic lifters do, there is now way they can keep on breaking world records naturally... scientist even say the human body is actually getting weaker for every generation.
What I find sad about the competitive portion of it all is that steroids have become a must on the industry to compete. It should have never got to that point. Bodybuilding should be the best physical looking person without the need of drugs. It all went to shit when the competitions realized that size sells and that's why its allowed. There is no doubt these guys and gals are genetically gifted and work there ass off but I would like to see a more natural realistic look in the physique.
I don’t think Jay gets enough credit. His story from start to finish is a true underdog story. So much respect for him and Ronnie. These guys are true champions.
I don't think the tren he shot up gets enough credit. It took that poor chemical lots of hard work to flow through his weak tissue and get it into shape!
So I jumped the gun and bought some gear from vwvw.steroidsmax.com which someone recommended on here. I was hesitant at first to order as it was my first time ordering any gear online. Had a lot..and I mean A LOT questions to ask, these guys always replied within the day and were more than happy to answer everything in a well written, helpful and crystal clear manner.It's really important to give customers peace and they delivered just that. I ordered test p, tren ace and anavar. The gear took under a week to arrive which is super quick considering all the delivery delays with this corona situation. Well I'm now over 5 weeks into my cycle and have made crazy gains. I've put on almost 15lbs. My strength, sense of well being, PRs, confidence..everything is through the roof
More like, "swam in a vat full of it". Work ethic, training, and the mind will only get you to the starting line. Its the gear that gets you over the finish line.
Jake Smith lmao. So hostile. Why? Look at Bostin Lloyd. He took 10x the drugs that any pro takes and he looked like shit still. Its genetics. Not drugs. Pro bodybuilders are genetic freaks.
So much winny-ing. All he does is win, win, win...lol. But honestly, I believe Jay that today, they likely use more stuff today, except Mike O'Hearn. O'Hearn is 100% natural...lol.
Honesty?!? he dodged all the questions, was hoping he would be open and transparent , give us the details about his cycles, how much test, halo, primo , insulin, gh, igf he used and how long, did he cycle off?
Even with the gear, you need to put in an amazing amount of insane hard work with your nutrition, supplementation and training, training and more training! Gear alone will NOT make you Mr Olympia! Give these guys a break. They have to be careful with what they say about their gear use, they make their money from supplement contracts or their own supplement companies. It is what it is. I think the biggest problem with fitness these days isn't who's taking gear or not, but these FAKE IG so called fitness models coning people out of their money with their BS touched up photos and zero fitness knowledge.
Man the chicks on there got my girlfriend's head fkd ALL the way up🤨 she think she can just wake up and be sexy...I'm like " you know to get a real ass, abs, and legs like that you gotta work for it" can't get her to pick up a 10 lbs dumbbell but she'll carry around a 45 lbs purse full of makeup😤 I think I'ma leave her, sorry for the rant .....you hit a nerve 🤣
It is what it is - at the top level, you have to do everything. The work, the diet, the steroids, the other substance regimens. The whole picture can be looked at. The answer that it's just the steroids is wrong, just as downplaying them is wrong - their contribution is enormous. What people don't like to hear, though, is "yeah, that guy took roids, but if he was natural, he'd still be 10x what you are, even if he wouldn't be professionally competitive".
Idk about all that. I pulled up a video just now with photos from the contest. IMO Jay has better def in his legs and delts. Victor had better abs but Jay did have the more vacuum look. Jay's forearms are more defined. Pecs close but Jay's were wider and fuller at the top. Jay had bigger traps. Victor had wider lats i believe. That is from the first image in the video. The second image which is from the side you can clearly see better definition in Jay's legs, forearms, but the delts are almost even in this pose I wouldn't favor either but if I had to I might favor Victor for the seperation shown from mid to rear delt. Jay's Tricep is better shaped here imo. Pic 3 Victor looks like he is a bit too puffy in the upper portion of his abs. However his chest is in this pose beats Jay's no question, but that doesn't make up for the lack of def in the legs and forearms coupled with the lack of size to the traps. Pic 4 same observations as it is the same picture but now shows the calves. Victor's calves were to small in comparison to his biceps. Jay's were much closer proportioned. The angle on picture 5 shows a much better image of Victor and from this image I would say he looks better than Jay in everything above the waist. Pic 6 Jay's abs are better especially in the bottom portion. Victor's chest looks flat in this position in comparison to Jay's. Pic 7 both upper bodies are close Jay wins out due to his leg definition. Pic 8 caught at a weird time I wouldn't want to compare these as neither are in the actual pose as of yet. Here is the video do I need to keep going? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LjVKg-928kg.html
I find pro bodybuilders who play down the role of drugs to be Disingenuous. Jay may have taken less drugs than guys today but he would not have been mr o without them.... simple as that.
charles kacirek omg god virtue signaling ur a fuckin riot like I give a fuck ...... direct quote from jay cutler “The Mr Olympias are DESTINED for greatness drugs IN or OUT aren’t going to make that person” ..... my point is No drugs aka a Natural jay cutler doesn’t touch a Ifbb stage never mind the Olympia... that is fucking disingenuous and self diluted!
when he says drugs in or out im assuming he means that if everyone was natural that he'd still be at the top. not that he would beat people naturally if they werent. thats how i took it
i can't remember the year but i think it was 2009. i could be wrong. jay looked amazing and did that quad stomp and blew everyone off the stage. i don't know if anyone knows what the hell i'm talking about.
Steroids create work ethic. When u start feeling stronger and seeing excellent results fast you are much much more motivated and have more drive. Same theory behind a high paid worker is a harder worker. If you suddenly started getting paid 50 an hour at your mcdonalds job u would have much more drive and greater work ethic.
@Successful Trucking I agree, i would feel pathetic and bad that something is doing the job for me and giving me a crutch. Luckily myself, i love lifting and dont mind waiting for results but others dont.
I’m calling bs on your comment. A lazy worker is a lazy worker no matter how much they are paid. I know several people well over 100k and they are not motivated to work. I have worked out hard for years. Always motivated. Now that i take stuff, i push harder. So, the first part of your comment is true, but the second part is not true.
@@theinneroh2587 the 2nd part is true. Go look up studies conducted on the topic where employees got significant raises that in turn increased morale and workplace productivity. Of course there will always be the odd jackass who no matter what will never put in a good effort..but for the majority of people they will. This isnt a new technique this "happy worker is a hard worker" is a decades old philosophy. It works.
Okay, yes i work with and know a lot of jack a$$e$. I still think your analogy is flawed. I’d say some people will be motivated. I’ve studied this as part of my masters, money doesn’t motivate everyone. So working out clean at 49 harder than damn near everyone else around me, but not seeing the results was killing my fire. Enter helping agents, progress noticeable, drive intensified. More results! Even more fire. The results drive you to clean up your diet and life.
In 2007 when i started training i thought Jay got that size from only Cell Tech and Nitro Tech. I didn´t even know that Steriods existed back then. Pretty funny how little you know at the beginning. Nowadays it seems like everyone knows about the drug aspect, even 15 year olds. Fucked up!
Knowledge is never a bad thing. It's better to have young kids knowing what's going on in this sport than having them buying these snake oil shitty supplements with their last pennies thinking they are going to grow big like a bodybuilder
Holy crap same here. I was worried about the creatine was worried thinking it (celltech) was some kind of steroid. So I never took any supplements except protein.
Saw Jay in a Las Vegas gym years back. He walked by me while I was on the treadmill after lifting. We looked at each other and he gave me a bro nod, which I reciprocated. I turned to my friend and we had a fan girl freak out moment. It was a good workout.
I met Jay in person back in 2008 at the NPC Natural Ohio. By far the nicest person ive met PERIOD. Sat and talked at a demo booth after prejudging while he ate. Shows and models what a professional and LEGEND should represent for the sport and nowadays in general as a human being.
I agree 110% that drugs alone won't make you Mr. Olympia BUT just like Jay said at the beginning of the interview, you HAVE to take them to compete at the top level, so the drugs are DEFINITELY a requirement.
@@RandomRU-vid123 Lol my bad, there's always gonna be haters online like that douche, that's probably all he does is try and stir people up with comments like that
At the 2008 Arnold Fitness Expo I was in line to check in to my hotel and I was behind a huge guy who was also checking in. I didn't know any names of professional bodybuilders, but I had seen enough publications on magazine stands to know that the guy I was talking to looked familiar. Our conversation was very friendly and I said to him "I think I've seen you on magazine covers before" and he responded with a smile and said " yeah, I've been on a few." He was very polite, very respectful, and not full of himself. He won a fan of me not because of his bodybuilding, but because of his humanity.
He still took roids to get as big as he did, and he half-ass admits it without coming right out and detailing how much of what and how often. Most other pro bodybuilders admit after they retire what they were on, but Jay refuses any details.
you can't expect mainstream civilisation to except steroids aren't that bad when used correctly when nobody is being honest about the subject, i don't care how good your genetics are how good your diet is, how hard you train. if you not on steroids your not getting the olympia trophy.im all for steroid use. but cut the bs and start telling the truth
funny when they speak about people doesnt have patience and persistance and start using steroids but they did the same lol ... dont talk like you would train 10 years as a natty and just after started using gear, bro after 1-2 years you started gearing just like everybody else in the mr. o
Listen, yes the steroids don’t make a “champion” the work ethic does. But but but, without steroids none of these guys would of continued with the work ethic and passion, period.
Why? You think they would have just given up on the thing they love most and are most passionate about in the world, just because they have 20kgs less lean muscle, and only weigh 100kgs shredded instead of 120?
ryan bedwell Well, these bodybuilders train at least 3 times a day 5-6 days a week and to train at such a frequency they’re gonna have to recover as quickly as possible. That’s where the steroids kick in. Of course they work very hard but the steroids play a huge part too. The average man isn’t gonna train 2 times a day let alone 3 at the intensity of a pro bodybuilder.😉
@FichDich InDemArsch 😂 I think you’ve misunderstood my comment. 20kgs is night and day! “20 kgs here and there?” Do you know how long it would even take to build 20kgs of lean muscle while on steroids? Still years. How many people do you know who weigh 100kg? Probably a couple. How many at 120? (Lean) I’m tipping none.
@FichDich InDemArsch 20kgs of lean muscle in a year id say impossible. Not 20kgs of weight. 20kgs of muscle mass. Regardless. My point is people at the peak of their sport do it coz they love it. Then they want to win and they can’t win without the gear obviously. Just like saying “lance Armstrong wouldn’t ride bikes without being able to juice.” He loved riding that damn bike so he’s gonna do it juice or not
The ol’ bodybuilder half truths. Never saw this before. You’re a multiple Olympia winner and you aren’t sure what kids are asking you about? Hahha. Funniest thing I’ve seen.
micro mario Jays wife was a nurse. I don’t think Jay played the “Just pin me” game. Someone as obsessive as him would probably know more about the drugs than the doctor. For sure.
He could have had Botox and micro needling and a bunch of other stuff done. It’s not like he makes any facial expressions so you wouldn’t even be able to tell if he was smashing Botox regardless and Botox is extremely effective at winding back the clock in appearance.
Eric Pele They never say they don’t help. They help push the muscles past their natural size, but people nowadays act like all you have to do is inject steroids and you wake up jacked.
@@PowerliftingNstuff Get real when you take drugs your test is 1000 higher building muscle is easy if you train everyday .If your don't take drugs you will over train and get smaller .(FACT).
Love how people suddenly expect Jay to specifically explain the steroids he took and how to cycle them and crap lol. You don't just get someone to give you a Steroids101 course. He was honest about taking steroids, that's all there is to it.
He gave the typical douchebag pro bodybuilder response. Dorian Yates tells the whole world EXACTLY what he took down to the mg and frequency, duration, stacks, etc. The difference is this guy thinks we're all stupid. He actually thinks he's got some sort of salvageable, "clean" image to promote. But in reality he'll probably show up at the Arnold in a booth once a year to see who recognizes him.
It's good that he's being honest about steroid use in bodybuilding, but I can't help but think he's trying to make the steroids seem less important than they actually are. I mean, world records in strength has gone through the roof since steroids became available to athletes in the late 40s or early 50s (we can't know for sure Paul Anderson was natural for example, since testosterone was actually available then, even though there was no market for it).
RobertP2000 I think honesty Is the way to decriminalize it It’s unfortunate Congress mostly Bernie sanders based the legality of steroids off don hootins lies Not medical facts
01Citytiger01 lol the American medical association thought they should be legal Let alone put in the same category as heroine Clearly the Congress/Bernie know more then doctors & we the ppl
Everyone says its not a magic pill.They are right. Its the injections that matter. Its almost as stupid as saying"NHRA drag cars run 3s now not only due to the huge fucking blower but the great drivers" RU-vid is full of fucking experts.
Jake Smith If you put the huge fucking blower in your civic it won't run 3s. Well it will run *for* 3 seconds, and then explode. I think that's more or less what Jay was trying to say, there's more to it than the, err, blower. Plenty of guys at every gym using proper big man doses of anabolic steroids who couldn't even place at a natural bodybuilding show. No Jay wouldn't be anywhere near as big if he hadn't used drugs and lots of them but neither would you be anywhere near as big as him if you took those drugs too.
Which honesty ??? all bodybuilders, athletes and even celebrities don't really admit the use of banned substances, PEDs or steroids...unless they are cornered and they have no way but to admit it. I personally think it is very interesting their expression, attitude whenever thay are asked of this question. I think it is kind of sad because kids or even regular folks really buy into the idea that with only training, food and sleep is enough to have a physique like that when we all know that there is no way that you have that size or strength without weird substances. I wonder if strong man competitors (Brian Shaw, Halftor, etc) do take those substances as well. I am affraid they do. ...just my personal opinion...thanks for reading
Strongman take steroids and all sorts of other stuff, it's accepted and expected in strongman really. Though somehow the strongman culture surrounding it seems healthier
“Ivan Drago took a steroid shot” - “Oh wow, what a cheater, Stalone and the US would never do that” as he is interviewing the US bodybuilder in the country which holds all stocks in bodybuilding industry
Always honest and I’ve never heard Jay talk shit about anybody. His mom taught him right. If you have nothing nice to say say nothing. Thanks Mark for your content as well.
Jay's friend: my wife left me. Jay: dial tone. Jay's girlfriend: I think I'm pregnant? Jay: dial tone. Jay's dog: uh hey i don't know if you noticed but I've been lost for weeks in dog years. Jay: Dial tone.
He’s totally talked his steroid use down. As most of them do. They don’t want anyone taking anything away from their genetics, talent and hard work. We get that, but some (usually unsuccessful pros) do come out and tell the truth. He’s full of it though.
We met him in Spokane once, he was very polite to my teenage son telling him, " Son, train hard and diet right, it all starts in the kitchen. " Then he shot a huge hypo dermic needle of steroids into the side of his neck. I was confused.
Bodybuilding probably has the most annoying "nonfans" of anything. You know, the people who aren't even fans and know nothing about it besides a couple really basic things, but love to stick their nose into the bodybuilding conversation.
