Being 74 years old and living in California for years, I was fortunate enough to purchase the FN-FAL from B&B gun shop the morning of what became worse bank robbery in North Hollywoods history. I paid 600 dollars back than for the gun and still have it.
Wanted a Scar, could afford the Tavor, I am extremely happy with it so far. It's got to be one of the more high speed/low drag battle rifles of the bunch, yes it's not quite as accurate as the Scar or nicer AR10s, but it makes up for it by being such a tight package and so easy to shoot well within 200 yards.
H&K 91 - Had one years ago when I was in the Army. Sold it and have regretted it every since! That thing was a hardass beast. It fired everything, never had a malfunction and took a beating.
Unrelated to the video topic, but that woodland M65 Field jacket instantly sent me back to childhood camping trips spent tearing through those woods in my dad's old army jacket. I love those jackets!
I bought my Springfield Scout Squad in early 2018, and LOVE IT. Reliable, accurate, simple and proven. I call it my "boom stick". My 5.56 is fun, but, for serious reach out and touch and destroy, the 7.62 M1 is my personal favorite and new it was $1675.
I just finished my AK-308 Battle Rifle build that started its life as a Saiga 308-1 with the 21" barrel. I moved the front sight back and installed a 24×1.5 adapter to allow the use of a muzzle device. I also installed a modified and tuned FIME Group Enhanced FCG, and I tuned the gas system to allow for suppressed shooting and better accuracy. My AK-308 is extremely reliable and very accurate with minimal recoil.
Was looking for the Saiga comment. I have such a tendency to modify the saigas, finding a completely original unmodified one has made me want to keep the look and only work on internals.
@@200130769 true, but Saigas have chrome-lined barrels and are built on the same equipment since 1947. That reputation likely comes from the massive amount of unlicensed copies out there.
@@200130769not even close to being a correct statement. Neither of those are as reliable as an AK, in a battle rifle there's much more important qualities necessary than simply being accurate...
I went on gun broker and searched for one. I found one for $800 and thought, how is that expensive? Then I realized it already had 20 bids and 13 days left on the clock. 😂
British Army during 1960s/'70s. L1A1 - Imperial Measurement version of Metric FN-FAL - was a very serviceable and reliable rifle, good enough for repeated hits at Half-a-Mile. I was Company Marksman and had a top cover which was fitted with a No.32 Telescopic Sight, as fitted to L42A1 British Sniper Rifle. Even with iron sights, 600 metres was well within range for repeated hits. My first choice for a Battle Rifle, despite its length. Easy to service and easy to clean and keep clean. I would also consider the FN Para-FAL with folding butt, despite shorter barrel and less accurate at extended range, but still good enough for reliable and repeated hits at 400 metres. As with everything in life, 'Better the Devil you Know' and 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it'.
I have a para Fal made by DSA. Great rifle! I only have two complaints. It is extremely hard on brass bending the rim so it is very difficult to reload. It also doesn't suppress well. I have even custom machined a new gas key with a small port so I don't have to dump a lot out of the atmosphere and it's still pretty loud. It is extremely reliable and well designed.
Magpul, an American manufacturer of plastic magazines, grips, bipods, stocks, and so-on has a rather expensive, not-particularly "slender," but possibly quite USEFUL after market stock for the FN-FAL. Unlike the usual stock, the cheek is higher-up, allowing better, more comfortable use of optics, than what results from the downward "droop" of an ordinary FN-FAL stock's configuration. I have a friend who would have ME run his FN-FAL, with a large variety of loads, from magazines labeled with masking tape with the load printed onto it, both for Chronographic velocity testing, and for accuracy, to see which load the rifle "liked" best. One thing that I noted was that the FN-FAL didn't seem to have as much felt recoil as an M-14. I'd also noticed this about the FN SCAR-17, and I suspect that this may derive from the "brick-sized" bolt carriers being able to soak-up the recoil impulse.
Morning Tim! For me it’s a tie between my FAL and my LMT. With the LMT being more accurate and having a great trigger, and the FAL being adjustable gas piston operated for harsh conditions. My two favorite .30 cal’s!
I bought one of the PTR91’s back in 2015.It is an American Made HK91 or G3.I got the 18” Hvy Bbl. All parts are interchangeable w/HK and new mags were $7-$10.00. Bill Springfield in Colo Springs Co. does a PHENOMENAL job on the trigger.Offers an improved recoil buffer you can install and he can extend the safety.You won’t recognize your rifle after he does his magic.Mine will shoot 1.5” all day. They know have a welded picatinny on top for optics. I’m an M1A freak,have 2 of em,but the PTR was $1k compared to $1500.00,for the std. model or $2k for the Natl Match.
For normal long range I invested in 300 WinMag. For long long range 50BMG. For fighting close AR10. For cheap fun AR15. I have store bought ammo and self-made including the bullets in all calibers and types.
A PTR91 is most people's best option. It's dead reliable, easy to service, has a decent selection of aftermarket parts, available for a reasonable price, has plentiful and still affordable magazines, decent sights (and the rail version that has a welded picatinny rail). It isn't perfect, but it is very good with only a handful of downsides that aren't ultimately that important.
@DV8 *** Comment was aimed at John Pierce who was suggesting getting a preban HK 91 which, as I'm sure you know, is far more expensive than the PTR 91.
It also weights roughly 3 metric tons, is longer than your average school bus, is a bitch to clean, and the earlier versions don't have rails for optics (And the original iron sights are rough). That said, you can drive over it with a tank and it'll still shoot. And it is a very fun rifle on the range. Sincerely: Someone who had to haul a G3 around during his military service.
Great video. Thanks for posting. Personally, my favourite was the one I was issued by the British South Africa Police, now Zimbabwe Republic Police, which was an FN FAL. I did have a stoppage in the middle of a firefight where the cartridge must have had a weak spot at the head, causing it to sever at the groove. As a result the full casing was not ejected, and the next round was forced into the now headless spent case. Getting it out was not easy, but after 30 seconds or so I managed to clear it, and continued to fight. Back in the city I showed it to the armourer and he said he'd never seen that happen before. Even with the stoppage, the FAL remains my favourite.
You were lucky, being able to clear the stoppage under those conditions, then continue in the fight. I was SADF 74/75, radio operator/ COIN ops. Issued FN, fortunately never experienced stopages. Excellent weapon. My cousin from Plumbtree was in the RLI, also during the 70's. Was ambushed while in transit, more rounds up in the tree branches than in the vehicle, he sustained many injuries, mostly his face/jaw and spine. He survived. Sadly, his brother took an RPG to the chest, not much left of him. Yet another cousin on the farm was told of a ter down in the compound. He was a sharp shooter, took his rifle, saw the ter, emptied his magazine, missed every time. Was taken out with just one shot. My wife's uncle and aunt lost a son in Rhodesia. They moved down to SA and lost their youngest son serving in the SADF. We lost a number of family members, cousins, during the war.
G3 clones can be had for much less, easier to find, parts are signifcantly cheaper aswell, use the money saved for a spuhr stock and red dot with magnifier (assuming you get one with a top rail welded on like ptr)
@@bloodking73 Parts for the G3's are not easier to find in our area. FN mags and parts are all over the place around the world. I have seen G3 'clones' and parts not compatible with others. The FN STANAG scope is top quality. Goes back to battery with little effort when removed for safekeeping. 6 to one half dozen to the other....
@@bloodking73 the G3 is shit compared to the FN FAL, just because of muzzle velocity and rate of fire. Carried the FN between 1972 and 1984 on regular stints on the SWA/Namibia conflict.
VietNam vet.....qualified on 7.62 M14 in '67. Spent the next 18 months behind a M30 in a Huey. So I"m pretty familiar with 7.62. While flying i also had a M1A carbine (.30 cal) and a Colt M16. I carried both a Colt 1911 .45 ACP and a S/W .38 revolver. The logic when flying during 1968 and 1969 was when you go down you have what ever you brought...nothing else. The advantage with the M16 was weight of both the weapon and the ammo. Now, at 67 yrs old...I opt for the lighter AR15 and a Glock 19. I no longer hunt bigger than varmits. for home defense use a 12ga. My wife carries a .38sp revolver. We feel we're comfortably protected. We practice with .22 just to keep sharp and because of the lower cost. We have a Rugger SR22 and 22-10 for the home range. Biggest concern going forward is the avail and cost of ammo. We have a 5' tall gun safe full to the top with ammo but there's no telling what the Gov will do in the future and/or what challenges will come as a result of the open boarders. Stay safe.
So if you are 67 years old (if comment was made in 2021) that means you were born in 1954. So you qualified in 1967 for Vietnam Nam at the age of 13. Explain please.
Yeah buddy! I humped my 60 for better than 13 months, being the biggest dummy in the platoon...until a new dummy stepped up. It might not get you laid, but it will definitely get you out of a jam!!
I remember getting tagged to carry the M60 during PLDC. (Primary Leadership Development Course) Sergeant school. Those get heavy fast. I pulled a Tom Sawyer on one of the nice, but thicker guys. I let him carry it in a mock ambush. Then I went on and on about how good he was with it, and it was too bad he didn't have one. He almost begged me to carry it after that. Like we said in the Army, if you ain't cheating you ain't trying. 🤭
I have owned several 308 rifles and I profoundly like the FAL over any other variation. The only manufacturer of them anymore is DSA. The recoil is much lower which may be due to their increased weight. I have an artificial shoulder thanks to my service in the Army. So recoil is profoundly important to me. Also I love the reliability of the FAL.
In the late eighties I was one of the sources for FAL parts and so forth. Loved the FAL. However, when it came to immediate action with a FAL I always found myself reaching for the op rod handle on the RIGHT side. As in M-14. I trained with the M14 and it was indelibly programmed into my brain. In 1965 the idiot stick my Sergeant laid on the side of my skull helped some too. ("Tighten up on them targets, boy"). Have a Garand now.
If you can get a genuine surplus Brit one in good condition they are the strongest and most reliable, I may be biased as I carried one for over years before the L85 came in..
Though I loved mine, no matter the ammo or mag, if the mag came in contect with the ground in any way, it would jam by double feed. Perfect otherwise, but I sold it!
I picked a dpms gen 2 recon when I decided to get away from 5.56 for a hunting rifle. At the time it was one of the first introductions of the small frame ar10s. And its served me well. If I get some extra money I may upgrade it
Indeed, the last chance for a peaceful turn was ruined by the cowards in the Supreme Court, the Presidency was stolen by DemocRATs and RINO's from Arizona to Georgia let it happen. What comes next is on them.
I bought the Patriot Ordnance Factory gas piston. High quality, but the closer was the great factory support. I sent 1 gun in for an upgrade and they turned it around in one day… at no charge.
I once talked to a guy who runs anti poaching operations somewhere in central africa what he told me was his go to rifle was an M1 garand. He said simply because it's a tough rugged rifle and no matter what you give it it fires (his words)
Interesting. I love my M1 but I've always heard careful what ammo you feed it. Supposedly most modern ammo is more powerful then m2 ball and could bend an op-rod. Its reliable enough but then again I'm not getting it that dirty sense its mainly just being used on a plinking day.
@@AntonAdelson I never said that. I have personally shot a lot of different weapons systems but if I’m more familiar with an AR-15 and would like a bigger caliber like the 308 for a battle rifle then I may lean towards the AR-10 instead of a Tavor type rifle.
Check out the C20. They still make some of the finest rifles but we’ll likely never see them unless they pull their heads out of their asses and start caring about their customers. I have a 901 and I’m sure if any part breaks I’ll never be able to find a replacement part.
Yeah, amazing, isn't it? I was in the Army in the 90's and a dedicated shooter. Back then, the AR wasn't as popular as it is today. I took a hiatus from owning and being knowledgeable of firearms. When my interest was renewed in 19', I was shocked that the AR was now the rifle of America.
I have a relatively new production RFB 24 and keep waiting for it to do something, anything to make me fall out of love with it. It's accurate, more accurate than I can be given how little I take it to the range these days, it has virtually no recoil once you tune it to the ammo you run using the gas knob at the front, the trigger is just incredible, it's east to clean, once you learn the mag change drill for it, it's fast enough for anything practical, it uses FAL mags so you can get 30 round mags for cheap, I could go on and on. Plus, it's forward ejecting which is just awesome and cool and always fun.
5.56 is an excellent "domestic use" cartridge. Everyone in the family unit / L.E. agency from the smallest statured member to the largest, non-shooters to "enthusiasts" can be taught to control it and hit reasonably well out to 100 yards. .308 is an outstanding military / enthusiast cartridge.
“That muzzle device” on the SCAR is a Primary Weapon Systems (PWS, Idaho) FSC. They make great stuff, but don’t get much credit for it. Kinda a big deal when FN buys your parts as a factory offering.
Personally I owned a demilitarized selective-fire G-3 in 7.62 and greatly appreciated it rugged reliability and low-cleaning requirements as it has no gas cylinder.
@@DeWin157 let me guess, you’re a new gun owner that thinks 800 rounds is a lot of ammo well guess what for 22lr it’s not in fact it’s hardly a start, even my poor ass has a couple thousand rounds
yep, pretty much, though stretches the idea of an "assualt rifle" since they sport a full-power rifle round. IMO , 308 puts many such rifles into the "Combat rifle" class rather than the "Assualt rifle" class. The FAL and M14 are there.
People are looking at all you gun tubers getting ammo selling paperweights , until we get ammo back to normal you guys are going to sink with all of us... unless your protected
IWI = trash Bullpups = trash I’d buy a VEPR 7.62 x 54 even with it selling at 2x+ it’s msrp due to Obama ban it still is less then a garbage IWI, vepr will always hold its value and oh yeah it’s top tier build quality not a piece of IWI garbage.
A G3 every day of the week, heavy and clumsy, yes. But simple, easy to use and no strangeness. And HK's locking system is not as picky with different tolerances on ammunition as many other systems are. Plus it's the weapon I'm mainly trained on, and FNMAG, Swe-K, Mauser 6.5 swed.
@ Hringhorne Stularsson - Re: G3 in the Norwegian military. Hei, hvordan har du det? That's all the Norwegian I could find. I am half-Danish through my mom, but don't speak the language, unfortunately. I've always been curious why the countries of Northern Europe - including your own - chose the G3 over the FAL back during the Cold War. They're both good designs, but I wondered if there was something specific in why Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia all chose it? Cold-weather performance? Proximity to Germany? A better deal economically,in terms of production cost and licensing? I have heard, but can't confirm - that the G3 works really well in the cold, snow and ice. If true, that could be a reason.
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 that's true the g3 is way more reliable than fal, it can work in -10 degrees or in the sahara, the only unreliable g3 was the mexican g3 wich was made with cheaper steel so as a result it could jam in any contact with whater but the normal one can fire after bein sumerged in whater if the ammo is dry just dont open the bolt when in contact with whater)
I had a toss up between the tavor 7 and gen 1 galil 16" in 308. Went with the galil (which is by far my current favorite rifle). Tavor 7 is definitely high on my list of wants though, I've been a tavor fan since the first iteration
Many years ago, I was a young lad in the early 90's, absolutely infatuated with the Hk91. My pocket book preferred the Springfield EBO Sar-8 from Greece, ie, a poor man's Hk91. Best part was, 20 rd mags were $0.99/ea all day.
Same here. In the mid 80’s, about 13 YO, I remember calling HK and asking how much they cost; $460. Fast forward to 91, right before AWB I was going to buy one, but when I returned to the gun shop with $$, it was sold. Now I have s SAR-8. At least I finally got my fix.
I like my century arms .308 more than my ar10. That's the true poor man's h&k lol also have a winchester model 100 in .308, but that's not a battle rifle.
I know they are heavy and old but I would not give up my FAL with its Halbek Device for anything. I know it is not as accurate as your selections and accessorise are not as wide spread but it suits me and my shooting preferences One of the less than dozen after market parts I have on it other than lights and opticts is a bolt lock that allows me to shoot "single action" which helps moa accuracy.
I just ordered all the components to assemble my first ar 10 in 308. I’m also trying bear creek arsenal for the first time as well because I really wanted a side charging upper. Great info as usual MAC and maybe I try the Tavor in the future.
@@jdubss1401 because ar-10 lowers or a lot different my Daniel Defense DDM5 is a true ar-10 pattern look at aero .308 lower and a knight sr-25 lower and you’ll see the difference between ar-10 or LR.308 that’s it
@@grezikpainting You're right, and it's good to know. However, I don't like this distinction. An AR-308 is really an AR-10. The fact that the cut is slightly different doesn't make it a different rifle.
I don’t know if it was released at the time of this video, but the Galil Ace in 308 has become my favorite battle rifle. AK reliability with modern accuracy and modularity. Suppresses easily too.
@@dimitristevanskov6778 if a patriot is an excellent marksman (like many of us are), we need a bullet that has the energy to do it's job at 300+ yards. The .308 is an excellent choice for that purpose, and the FN is an excellent choice for delivering that round.
@@madmaxd1if the mad meistro is talking to me, I'm an avid shooter, and there's not many guns - WORTHY OF BEING A GOOD BATTLE RIFLE - that I haven't shot. Your intelligence (or the lack of it) is showing(!), because how do you know what guns that a man has fired???? Lhhhh!
I'll take my Imbel FN/FAL into battle without a doubt. It will run any ammo including 50 year old Chilean milspec. Yes it is on the heavy side but it runs extremely fast with mild recoil. Mine is set up with a railed front handguard, SAW buttstock and will accept 30 rd. magazines from DSA. Only plastic is buttstock, pistol grip, magpul horizontal grip.
room clearing is best left to the expert.. 12 gauge pump, 9 rounds, or more, #2 or #4 goose loads. no survivors.. or, just the sound of jacking a shell into the chamber, does wonders.
@@natsuccubus Earl Elkins is not a fudd. Stop being a troll. Shotguns ARE for clearing rooms EFFECTIVELY. Clearing a room with a bolt-action rifle, of ANY caliber, is an exercise in lottery-type probability of survival. So, if you want to sexually "get-off" by risking your life via the use of an INEFFECTIVE tool for the job, go ahead --- but, don't accuse others of being tactically incorrect for YOUR lack of good sense. It would seem to me that using a bolt-action is more FUDDly than a shotgun. So (Kyle Williams), go masturbate in a corner like a good little FUDD, bitch.
Just remember the rifle weighs more and the ammo weighs more. I personally would go with a FAL because they're a proven rifle. Tons of choices there though. I might be more specific depending on mission per say. If I wanted more accuracy at longer range then I'd go with some other options.
@bali song I want a totally different system then . Dude the M1A is awesome for what it is not for what the new hy sped low drag fad is . M1A's are great weapons and they can be great allies . Ask lots of Vietnam veterans and Korean War era Marines and Soldiers. No you can't fit them in a fannypack and yes they have heft. Still would rather have an M1A than slingshot and I think the M1A likely runs more reliably than the SCAR . Why does no one mention how the SCAR was dropped with much less service time than the M1A ? Variants of the M1A are STILL serving ! They have drawbacks but hating on them is lame
i've wanted an M1a for as long as i can recall. hard to pony up over $2k (minimum) for an 'older' design. boggles the mind as to why they're still so expensive.
Just got mine after waiting 5 months for it to arrive. Beautiful walnut stock. Added the bayonet lug and the M6 bayonet. Looks sweet!😎 Seriously accurate and hard hitting!
The Tavor 7 that I own and have been shooting for the last two years is very accurate. It shoots hand loaded Nosler 168 gr. BTBT at and just under 1" at 100 yards, coming in at 2650 fps. I use Leupold scopes and the T7 wears a VXR Patrol 1.25 - 4x with the Fire Dot option. I have grown very fond of the extreme versatility of the bull-pup design rifle in the field, as it lends itself to a more useful variety of field shooting positions than any of my other rifles and being so much more compact, in heavy timber, its a pleasure to move with. I hunt with mine, bear and white tail in heavy woods and cover. The .223 is a "varmint" cartridge and no amount of anything will undo that, regardless what "expert" from wherever tells you in my opinion. Besides, it's reputation in the fields have proven its lack of effectiveness time and again... When my life is on the line, I want to know that I have done everything in my power to effect the outcome to my favor and left nothing to chance and the .308 cartridge brings much to that table! The Tavor 7 is reliable, accurate and trustworthy. She may be a bit on the heavy side, but I've spent 65 years packing 9 pound magnum rifles up and down mountains hunting big game in Idaho and Washington, so this little thing is no bother at all!
@@jonathanhornbuilders Keep in mind, the ballistic difference between a 20” and a 16” in .308 is about 120fps. I went with the 16” and I’m really glad I did. It’s extremely light. I got a 2-7x Vortex scope, and an Aimpoint Duty RDS for it (not running them at the same time). I absolutely love it. Also consider getting a BFD by Indian Creek! Absolutely saved my ears and everyone else’s ears by the end of my rifle course. It was indoors and was quieter than the rest of the classes 5.56’s! 😂 Everyone including the instructor wanted to know what it was and was going to buy one, and the instructor said this was the nicest AR-10 he’s ever shot.
Damn sure wouldn't be the first in line. My first BREN2 in x39 was a Jam - o- mattic. Only been able to put 180 rounds down range with the replacement. I don't trust it, the ejection pattern is still erratic.
I lusted over one for years till 2015 and finally saved enough for one. Id reccomend a gir model with the paddle mag release and welded top rail for the option of easy sight options. But, go for what you want/can find. A Buddy of mine has a DSA FAL and another has a fulton armory m14, their mags are gold bricks, we all are happy but man I LOVE my ptr. Mags are usually super cheap, handguards and furniture are easy to find, steel are higher but the aluminum ones are nearly indestructible, and shes a tack driver. Also an absolute club to swing when out of rounds. Recoil is there but its more of a shake not a kick, brass goes into orbit, and it eats any 308 you put in it so if your stuck with cheap steelcase as the only option like right now, it eats it for breakfast. Good luck🤟🤟
@@jakeadair8292 would love to, here overseas it is costly to just get permit for a shotgun and bolt action rifle, need to do a lot of ipsc first with handgun and get 5 year permit with that and then find a club that deals with semi auto to even have a shot(Pun intended) at getting a g3 clone
I used R1 / R2 (FN FAL)'s 1968 to 1984 and they never let me down. Gas setting on three and a half .. clean, maintained weapon (always .. coming back into base, water bottles refilled and then weapon seen to before anything else). Yes, there are more modern equivalents out there, but if no other option, I would settle for my R1 / R2 anytime.
Yip, thats what we used in the South African Defence Force. Deadly and reliable. R1 was the South African version of the .308 FAL. IMPROVED I MIGHT SAY.
gottq pay for some shit youll never use until things chill out and even then its pointless to pay for exclusivity when its not exclusive. hahaha best they can do it notify you when they have stuff which companies you dont have to pay already will do that.
There is no benefit right now - they are as out of stock as anyone else, plus you get to give them money to see that their shelves are as empty as everyone else.
I love my Tavor 7 and agree with Mac on his choice. That said, my Galil in 7.62 makes my choice difficult. Both rifles are great to shoot, and extremely reliable.
As heavy as it can be, my DSA SA-58 standard (FAL pattern) is my go-to 308 rifle. About as reliable as it can get with its adjustable gas system, and a proven design that has lasted the test of time. Aside, it is a fucking BLAST to shoot.
What's the barrel length on yours? I wanted to get a 16" one but someone said that it didnt work very well with the FALs gas system because dwell time was too short.
@@FALPhil he took that into account, he spoke specifically about the SA58 in 16 inches with how it's more difficult to tune it because of dwell time, either its shaky or over gassed with no inbetween, according to him, at least. It was just a comment I saw on reddit, but, thanks for the info! I really want one of these beautiful guns, and the 16" SA58 looks like it'd be just right, but I wouldn't want to misstep with my first foray into FALs
@@seirbhiseach Not my experience.That may be a characteristic peculiar to the SA-58, but I have cut down over a dozen FAL barrels on my lathe and reassembled them on the rifles and never, ever had a problem. Since DSA bought licensed manufacturing equipment, I would be highly suspect of such an assertion.
@@FALPhil well, thank you for reinstilling confidence in the platform for me. It's such a neat and historical and cool looking rifle, as well as a useful and versatile platform, and I'm really glad it's not relegated strictly to the full length original pattern
Maybe because Keltec is thinking about the "newer and younger" generations? We Millennials grew up around gameboy, PS1, PS2 Call of Duty, GTA, old ass PS2 shooting games and in these games they have old mix mash of guns. So as for us Millennials we like old school guns, new guns and modern guns. The newer Gen Z and newer Gen are into guns base off from today's FPS games.
@@SCH292 so only gen z like bullpups? Guess the guy in the video must identify as gen z seeing as how his number 1 choice is a tavor, one of those gen z rifles... maybe if you knew fuck all about rifles you'd understand a bullpup will beat out any other rifle any day of the week as a straight battle rifle.
interesting choice, but for me SLR, used one back in the 80's, mud, rain, sand, beat the crap out of it, easy to clean and break down. Accurate, one of our lads in basic was popping man sized at 600 with iron sights. For hunting your choices are fine, for battle and durability, SLR. Just my thoughts.
Well, if you're fighting China then you are out of luck. Their ammo the 5.8x42mm is exclusive only to Chinese rifles and there are not much that we really know about it. So GG
The title of this video is exactly how I felt. I traded my 5.56 for the 7.62x51. I wanted a heavier 30cal projectile with more powder than a standard AK round. Can shoot over 500 yards & actually take down a target at those distances! I was afraid 5.56 wouldn't be able to shoot out to 600 yards also I was afraid the projectile was too small. 22cal just seems too small to produce much knockdown power at distance. I understand & know 5.56 is lighter recoil & the ammunition is also lighter. Just 30cal is where it's at! Can take down any size game in North America period. Can penatrate through a vehicle, through cinder block walls, through alot of things and still have enough power to do the job. Concealment is not going to work if you have a 308 being shot in your direction, can't hide behind a car, a house, medium trees! Not much can stop a 7.62x51.
@@vgman94 well, that’s another kind of “gun control”, they’re just making sure price of firearms and ammo are high enough, so only rich and elites people can afford them…
The tavor is my pick for .308 rifles to take to the fight as a universal platform that can do pretty much every job pretty well. IWI killed it with that platform
For 308/7.62x51 I built my own AR based with features I want, 100 meters I overlap the bullet holes, 20" SOCOM profile barrel, rifle length gas system with adjustable gas block M lock slim handguard with rail on top then M lock every 45 degrees for many mounting options.
Thumbs up. I agree with you on the Tavor. It will likely be my next purchase. The 308 is a great round. I have a semi M-14 that I like. It's built like a ''57 Chevy, it won't let you down. But I wouldn't want to carry it into battle these days.
