THANK YOU for not shooting a steel target for the test! So many channels will shoot at a steel target in suppressor videos and it defeats the whole purpose
So happy I just purchased a Polonium K. I know it wasn't in this, but its performance vs size vs value is close to unbeatable at this moment. Great Video!
No personal experience with either the polo or polo k (yet) but from what I have read and from pew science testing, the k is noticeably less gassy while compromising sound performance
It can be difficult to get a good idea on each can if they're fired on multiple firearms with different barrel lengths/components, love the idea of the comparison though!
We try to get close but some mounts, such as the AE brakes, are only set to fit on certain platforms. We may hot-swap muzzle devices on the range one of these days in order to keep the host the same.
It's hard to get all the same hosts. Maybe we'll get a setup where we can swap muzzle devices at the range. We've got a 20+ 5.56 host suppressor comparison video in the works.
Yes, we're planning a night video. All hosts will be a close as possible, probably 10.3-12.5. We're planning to capture shots with both a standard camera and behind a PVS14.
I came across this looking for a video on the OCL Polonium. And I have to say, for the price, it seems like a really great suppressor. As much as I would love a Surefire, I cannot justify that price tag. My local shop has the OCL for $579, and I'm thinking that will do just fine.
The rifle with the OCM5 was the only one that wasn't super overgassed. I wouldn't have thought that the smaller cans would have added so much bolt velocity, but maybe the rifles were gassy beforehand (which is pretty common.) You wouldn't believe how many people have commented about my guns throwing casings in the 3-5 o'clock range and said it was "inconsiderate." Though im guessing they're the same folks that shoot maybe 200 rounds per year and think that screwing a few pieces together & driving some pins qualifies as a "build." Eh, just need a little insight/education i suppose. I appreciate the back-to-back comparison montage at the end though. I wish more folks would do that. But It's also virtually impossible to get a real sense of what each setup sounds like in a video (specifically with a camera/audio setup that levels the noise and compresses everything.) But there's not a lot you can do for that, unfortunately. I just enjoy this format. I think you may have gotten lucky that the wind was at your back so the gas was immediately blown away from your face. That shit sucks. There's nothing that can ruin a good time like your rifle making you feel like you're crying 😆😂
I was impressed with the polo and seirra 5. Considering the size of the seirra 5 makes it all the more impressive. If it wasn't for DAs qa debacle, that can would be getting a lot of love.
Nice comparison. The Polo is such a great value. That mini mk12 with the ocm5 seemed l like the only rifle that wasn't horrifically over gassed. Was it tuned with an agb or brt ez tune?
@@joesrcool Very nice! H3 is a lot of buffer! I would if it would be flatter shooting with a BRT EZ Tune and a lighter buffer. It's probably super reliable as is, though.
It runs so well the way it is, I'm planning on not messing with it. Now my LMT guns, they may be getting some BRT tubes. I put one in the 13.5in .308, and it's a whole new gun.
I think the Dead Air Sierra 5 and OCM5 and Polonium all sounded really really good. The OCM5 was the quietest for sure. And it’s amazing seeing the Polonium hang with these other more expensive cans. I actually bought a Polonium.
The wind made it a bit hard to tell, The longer suppressor was louder and the mini was louder I think... they type of sound was hard to pin down thou from the wind. they make different types of sounds like deeper vs shallow....
between the polonium and ocl which sounds quieter? It seems almost the same in the video so I feel like the polonium is a much better choice in price and length and weight, the ocl is aesthetically pleasing though.
Im assuming thats a Warcomp on the Mk18? You can see it jetting gas out of the mount under the can once you shoot a few rapidly. I had to swap mine for a brake but it brought the sound down *VERY* noticeably
Would be ideal if you had used the same rifle for all the cans as a control to rule out sound differences due to barrel length and gas system variabilties.
I liked seeing the direction of the brass ejecting, which alludes to back pressure. A little disappointed to see how over-gassed Surefire cans make the gun. OTL for the best flow through win.
I wouldn't read too far into this, as each host was different. If we were to use the same rifle for all the cans, then you could make a better comparison. This is something we'll try to do in the future, we just need to select a host and acquire more mounts.
Yup. I've been browsing ebay. Then trying to find the right mics and calibration tools, let alone documentation on how to use it all.... It's been quite the endeavor.
Question? Was all the ammo the same as well as subsonic? Has anyone out there ever done a decimal test with all the different ammo types/variations? Suppose you have a barrel and a supressor that is pin and welded, does that make a difference in sound? Has anyone done a sound test in relating to direct impingement vs gas piston driven? Side question? Does anyone know what the psi inside the barrel once the projectile is fired? Is there a sound/psi relation?
This run used all the same ammo. We've run a suppressed night comparison with different ammo, but we were just looking at flash signature, not sound. Barrel length has been proven to change suppressed sound levels, Griffin does some good videos with different barrel lengths using the same can/ammo. I'm sure a DI/Piston comparison has been done. We have plenty of each at similar barrel lengths we could compare. Higher pressure rounds will likely make more sound. Some rifle cans are rated to support 4000ft/lbs of energy and higher.
Definitely looks over gassed. Ejecting at 2pm. I'd drop an adjustable gas block or tune it with a buffer spring combo. I'm aware you can run a suppressed rifle at 2 o'clock and be fine,but it's not ideal. What's people's problem with steel? If your shooting a ISPC plate we at least know your not shooting 100 moa. Also the ding of steel doesn't take away from how quiet a suppressor can be. 50K rds down range to verify it. 223/556 can be quiet,but it still makes a bit of noise, unlike 220gr 300BO, or 165gr 9mm through a 7.5"- 10.5" barrel. Yes the 165gr 9mm round doesn't have the ballistics like 300BO or 556,but a 9mm can blow a lung completely out of your body. It's what Uncle Joey said. Hunter is the smartest guy he knows. Nice demonstration though.
Just trying different setups, but you are on to something. You do get more accurate suppressor audio from the non ejection port side, and that's likely where we'll place the camera/mic when doing sound comparisons going forward.
Different hosts and differing amounts of gas being introduced to the operating system. Traditionally, overhassed guns will show a more forward ejection pattern while a more properly gassed gun will show more neutral 3-4 o'clock ejection. As long as the brass is coming out and it's locking back when empty, I don't pay too much attention.
Surefire engineered them to leak gas bottom left of the back of the suppressor. Not sure why they want that gas bleed off like that but mine does it too.
Whitest or quietest? They're all black except for one. Quietness from a bystander perspective: OCM5 > Polonium > Sierra 5 > Socom556 RC > SOCOM556-Mini2
What is your top 3 cans of them all and why , I need help picking a can but need a different opinion and perspective from someone who has real life experience with them
@@easbreid9879 lt's actually 1,125 FPS and that's why l said they are aII LAF. Supposedly the new cat 5.56 cans ARE quiet with 5.56/.223 but l'll beIieve it when l hear it. So far l'm not that impressed. Either way the test in this video was basically a WOT.
From here the o'clock and dead air were about equal and the surefire were loud as he'll almost like u were shooting super sonic with surefire and sub with the other 2.. wish there was a huxwrx to compare
Shot with a guy using a Huxwrx the other night... as loud as a Sandman K and might as well be considered a flash enhancer, as there were massive first round fireballs. It may be low back pressure, but I was not impressed.
@joesrcool well I'm glad you saved me some money I was thinking I wanted a surefire or huxwrx, but that ocl seems the best, u promise u were using regular in the rest and sub sonics in the ocl?
Ha, yeah. All that ammo was the same. The Polonium shown in this video belongs to a buddy of mine. I was so impressed, I went ahead and picked up my own.
Look at the brass ejection patterns to see which setup is actually running well. Definitely shouldn’t be looking over your back right shoulder behind you seeing brass. Should be at your 2 or 3 oclock
It's going to be great when suppressors are no longer regulated. Suddenly there will be thousands of people building suppressors in their home . workshop. People will be able to buy a top of the line can for about 300 bucks. Current prices are criminal.
