5 Ambitious Attempts to Reinvent the Train (That Failed) 🚂 History in the Dark 🚂

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Sometimes in development, people try to push the envelope. New ideas always take time and effort and blood, sweat, and tears. But more often than not, new ideas no matter how amazing they may seem simply do not turn out the way that people want them to. Here's five times in history where that exact thing happened.
"A sail bogey or sail trolley is a wind-driven vehicle that runs along railway tracks."
"The Aérotrain was an experimental Tracked Air Cushion Vehicle (TACV), or hovertrain, developed in France from 1965 to 1977 under the engineering leadership of Jean Bertin (1917-1975) - and intended to bring the French rail network to the cutting edge of land-based public transportation."
"The gyro monorail, gyroscopic monorail, gyro-stabilized monorail, or gyrocar are terms for a single rail land vehicle that uses the gyroscopic action of a spinning wheel to overcome the inherent instability of balancing on top of a single rail."
"The Bennie Railplane was a form of rail transport invented by George Bennie (1891-1957), which moved along an overhead rail by way of propellers."
"The Beach Pneumatic Transit was the first attempt to build an underground public transit system in New York City. It was developed by Alfred Ely Beach in 1869 as a demonstration subway line running on pneumatic power. The subway line had one stop in the basement of the Rogers Peet Building and a one-car shuttle going back and forth. It was not a regular mode of transportation, and lasted from 1870 until 1873."
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@trainguy2155 2 года назад

Finally the first episode with no British rail.

@shingoshoji2771 2 года назад

yes

@JackCarsonsRailroadVideos 2 года назад

It's been 3000 years

@joshuabessire9169 2 года назад

Ah, that's all I needed for by bad train bingo card!

@peddersmeister 2 года назад

Are you free? Has the curse been lifted? Nah, we'll be back 😉

@ljts7587 2 года назад

You had British sail at the beginning instead.

@EMDWDG4 2 года назад

FINALLY, BRITISH RAIL DID NOT DARE TO COME IN TO THE HOUSE AFTER AN INTENSE FIST FIGHT IN THE LAST EPISODE. UH OH, THE NEW BR HAS ARRIVED! *GE ARRIVES WITH A BLOWN TURBO*

@pras12100 2 года назад

With any new take on rail transport my first thought is usually "What about points (US: switches) and crossings? How practical would a complicated junction be?" Most schemes are only well thought out going back and forth on a single line but a real railway does much more than this.

@lightningwingdragon973 2 года назад

You expect us to jump in a LITERAL tin can, be propelled at ungodly speeds, relying solely on mechanically created air pressure to survive and be ok with that? Whoever came up with the idea for the modern aircraft: Hold my (tin can of) beer

@grahamariss2111 2 года назад

You forgot the British Rail Hover Train that combined the disadvantages of the hovercraft with the disadvantages of the maglev train.

@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd 2 года назад

How very rude Sir British Rail once again gifted the World a working example of the pitfalls of such designs So other companies and countries wouldn't make the same costly mistakes And they used the British taxpayer to fund their generosity and not affect their own profits So anyone in the UK who paid tax during the British Rail era should also feel warm and fuzzy inside Not all heroes wear capes.

@philvanderlaan5942 2 года назад

He didn’t forget, his subconscious, deliberately blocked it out of self defense.

@roanneabe7552 2 года назад

Um that's technically a copy and paste version of the Aerotrain

@grahamariss2111 2 года назад

@@roanneabe7552 As a concept it predated the Aerotrain both in the use of an air cushion and in the use of a linear motor for propulsion, the French were willing to throw more money at it, whilst the UK did not and to its credit BR were not that interested in pushing it forward much to the frustrationof its advocates, so most of the funding came from Universities, so the French actually built passenger carrying ones whilst Britain only progressed with models, before killing the idea in 1972.

@philvanderlaan5942 2 года назад

@@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd I believe that the motto of their R&D division was ‘ Oh Bugger all ! ‘

@megaxtrime3144 2 года назад

British rail in the back ground "we'll be back and we'll drive you crazy, we are watching always watching....."

@musewolfman 2 года назад

Fun fact. The Roots blower you mentioned is the same design (albeit much MUCH larger) as the superchargers you see sticking out of the hoods of crazy modified muscle cars. (Like the Charger from The Fast & The Furious.)

@dmtribaltyphoon5001 2 года назад

Watching this while waiting for Amtraks Empire builder to show up 4 hours late.

@haroldwilkes6608 2 года назад

The sail trolley would have worked in Washington, DC...all that hot air has to go somewhere when they're in session and the city sucks when they're not.

@userequaltoNull 2 года назад

There's a guy building a pneumatic steam engine here on youtube, search "way out West". He's builing a feldbahn for his farm in Ireland.

@randomoldbloke 2 года назад

There was one pneumatic railway that did work , British post had it was underground in London from memory it was shut down in the 60s . The cars were a bot over the size of a coffin and was used to move mail to some exchanges . From memory there are even a few cars preserved in a meusum in London. Cheers from Australia

@markstott6689 2 года назад

The Royal Mail service underneath London was rather clever and impressive.

@johnmccallum8512 2 года назад

They were a little bit bigger that a coffin and you can ride in them today as they are now an "attration".👹

@randomoldbloke 2 года назад

@@johnmccallum8512 cool my memory is not that flash , I read about this about 5 years ago and don’t mind been corrected. It would be a interesting ride

@johnd8892 2 года назад

Not pneumatic but electric powered wheel traction. As per the remains you can ride on : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hzGd-5kwR9E.html Unless you are thinking of something else perhaps alot smaller.

@CSXIV 2 года назад

Also, the pneumatic tunnel could be a breeding ground for evil slime that kidnaps babies. On the plus side, you can turn it good and turn the Statue of Liberty into a mecha.

@FeoragForsyth 2 года назад

So, the Bennie Railplane wasn’t a dead end! His engineer, Hugh Fraser, kept working on it, rearranged the wheels, got rid of the props, and made it electric. The SAFEGE monorail was the result. The Chiba and Shonan monorails in Japan, and the Düsseldorf and Dortmund monorails are direct descendants. The latter technology has now been bought by a Chinese company who are still developing it.

@kommandantgalileo 2 года назад

That's great!

@creaturexxii 2 года назад

Ah yes, every rail and transportation person's nemesis, gadgetbahns.

@HistoryintheDark 2 года назад

To everyone on this list's credit, they all created working prototypes on their concepts. Gadgetbahns are generally just ideas that use technology that doesn't even exist yet.

@bocahdongo7769 2 года назад

@@HistoryintheDark Gadgetbahn has more broad term honestly. It mean that any public transportation that has very niche technology for very niche use case scenario (and most of them wound up pretty much pointless or even dealbreaking, hence mocking name)

@Mickeydadawg2265 2 года назад

How does he have not 50 mil subs becouse i love his edits for getting mad at british rail and his humor is the best 10/10

@robertwilloughby8050 2 года назад

Jean Bertin was within an ace of getting it right.

@retrogamelover2012 Год назад

The Aerotrain sounds like a precursor to the Maglev trains. So, I guess, even if the initial project wasn't as successful, it did at least lay the foundation for more successful takes of this idea.

@defective6811 2 года назад

the Sail Bogey is the kind of thing that almost makes sense if you don't think about it very hard

@iananderson8363 2 года назад

Ever since I was little, I’ve wanted to make a pneumatic tube like the bank but for people. I still want one! I’m all for the pneumatic railway!

@wolfzillaproductions4563 2 года назад

I died laughing at the Elon Musk hyperloop joke XDDD This is hilarious! Edit: Finally BR doesn’t plague one of your lists!! About time! ^^

@TheAutisticOwl 2 года назад

Can you do video talking about Shay locomotives, or that time a diesel locomotive was literally driven on the road during a bad snowstorm in Canada so it could be used as a generator for the out of power town?

@JackCarsonsRailroadVideos 2 года назад

Oh yeah The Time CN used M420W's to power a town

@protalukoriginal4560 2 года назад

You're my new favorite train guy!

@sharontaylor3540 2 года назад

NOOOO i missed the premier but still great episode and your a YT person who literally i watch alot every day

@HATECELL Год назад

I'm surprised that not a single concept in this list tried to replace a mass-transport A to B line with small, autonomous pods and sell that as an improvement. That's a must for current-era gadgetbahns

@fanofeverything30465 Год назад

Yeah but he's not talking about the current era

@stekra3159 2 года назад

mean, I have to say that these wind cars are the most environmentally friendly kind of rolling stock right on prepare with the handcar.

@connorsutherland2005 2 года назад

Video idea, top 5 favourite uk trains/locomotives based on looks and history.

@johnd8892 2 года назад

There was also a full size pneumatic railway in use in 1847. The Brunel designed South Devon railway. But rather than the complication of a tube for the whole carriage there was just a smaller vacuum tube for a propulsion device beneath the carriages.: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-irl0ICgmIBc.html Worked well when it was working until it rapidly wore out in about a year with rats eating the leather seals.

@neiloflongbeck5705 2 года назад

That was based on the technology used at Dalkey, Ireland.

@retrogamelover2012 Год назад

Ah yes, the atmoshperic railway. Kind of a shame they never discovered magnets during Brunel's tims. Probably would've had more of an edge, then.

@Jaidyn228 2 года назад

At last! The curse has been lifted! This is a sign! A message! We are free! Farewell to British rail!

@haweater1555 11 месяцев назад

On the "Loco Locos" website, the author described the possible consequences should Gyrotrain fail: "The mother of all derailments" .

@TheDiveO 2 года назад

#2 actually looks like a cross-over of Wuppertal Schwebebahn with the Schienenzeppelin, but then not trusting the thing and putting a second rail beneath it.

@robertterry9367 2 года назад

I love your videos!!-Bob

@dadodadokowski9108 Год назад

1. Im pretty sure the aerotrains biggest flaw was, similar to turbine trains, that they were inefficient at slow speeds since maintaining the air cushion consumed a lot of energy 2. Technically the railplane could've been tested on the Wuppertal, Germany suspension Railway since it used the exact same rails with, in the worst case, having slightly different diameters

@davidredfearn664 Год назад

The gyroscopic flywheel on the monorail could spin for hours after the motor stops running. There is actually a self balancing two wheeled car that can be parked for a long time before the flywheels stopped.

@marco_grt4460 2 года назад

Why after saw this video i have a bad feeling on the hyperloop in Italy?

@yourfellowpancake6335 2 года назад

Man how long do you study for these episodes, there is so much information in each individual locomotive in each list, also the hating BR trope is quite funny

@markstott6689 2 года назад

To be fair Spurn Point is very rarely without wind. Often strong and biting cold off the North Sea. Even in summer. Probably why they're building a massive offshore windfarm nearby.

@TheElectra91002 2 года назад

Dang, why are most of these so wholesome?

@thebigtrainguy 2 года назад

HITD: I'M FREEEEEEEEEE!!!! (British rail: we'll be back! ha ha ha!)

@IAmMisterTterevel 6 месяцев назад

The abandoned Beach Pneumatic served as a plot point in a DTV American Tail sequel.

@kommandantgalileo 2 года назад

The Aero Train was quite good actually, had so much potential

@ashleycordery2976 2 года назад

I never thought it would be possible to do a list without british rail.

@ZeldaTheSwordsman 2 года назад

The idea of creating separate passenger train infrastructure, like Betin and Bennie wanted to do, wasn't without merit. It reduces the conflict between passenger and freight services over priority. And elevated railways using traditional track have seen success in the past for that very reason. The Beach Pneumatic railway may be familiar to some people. Anyone who's seen Treasure of Manhattan Island.

@KiwiHelpgeek 7 месяцев назад

The first thing that came to mind with the Sail Bogeys was "The power of wind propels you! The power of wind propels you!". I'll see myself out.

@mistermadmachine6311 2 года назад

There was not one but two early versions of the hyperloop in the 1800s😱

@QuintonMurdock 2 года назад

Can’t wait for this videos sequel where all the techbro moron start ups like the hyper loop or the loop or self driving cars or the Las Vegas loop are here

@fishman501 2 года назад

A sail trolley appeared in the film Around the World in 80 Days where they used a sail trolley to get to a train station after being left behind while they went to rescue their friend.

@N00N01 2 года назад

Boat Floats on water= low "ground friction" Sailboats Glides on rails= low ground friction

@fanofeverything30465 Год назад

What's the difference

@neiloflongbeck5705 2 года назад

The fuel crisis of the early 1970s also helped to kill off the Aerotrain.

@anthonyj.adventures9736 Год назад

Anyone else listen to the end to congratulate darkness for being freed from his curse? I would totally ride all these. But that NY subway demo was actually designed after the compressed air mail delivery system NY sky scrapers had. Like when you go to the drive thur at the bank that tube system they use. Same concept. But for people.

@fanofeverything30465 Год назад

Yes me

@jonathonhass4178 2 года назад

Guessing that that Beach Pneumatic system was the catalyst for “The Pneumatic” conveyance the elves use at the North Pole in the movie “The Polar Express”.

@ethribin4188 2 года назад

The hyperloop should be on here

@CommodoreFloopjack78 2 года назад

Knock GM's Aerotrain all you want, that thing was friggin' beautiful. Not the best or most functional train we've ever seen, I'll grant you that, but aesthetically it was a fantastic design.

@fanofeverything30465 Год назад

He wasn't really knocking it he was just explaining why it failed

@idminister 2 года назад

I guess British Railways didn't like to think TOO out of the box. That would interfere with tea time.

@ynot6473 2 года назад

i'm sure BR will be back to haunt you! LOL.

@treavy-n1d 2 года назад

The gyromonorail reminds me of the digimon trains known as trailmon from the digimon frontier anime

@witcherstudios9351 2 года назад

1:27 Train on the water, boat on a track!

@MRCSANY Год назад

12:47 Wait a minute... isn’t that what the elves used in their facility from The Polar Express??

@nysubwaydude5634 2 года назад

(History of the dark realizes that there was no British Rail train in the list.) History of the Dark: wait does that...........I no longer cursed yeaAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH I AM FREEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!! 🥲🥲🥲🥲 Next day video History in the dark: let's see who on the list for today video. British Rail:I am back 😈😈😈 History in the dark: NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

@ohioandnortheastern 2 года назад

can't wait to see british rail in this video

@rjharmonproductions 2 года назад

finally no

@timbounds7190 2 года назад

The arguments why the Aerotrain failed (ie need to build specialised infrastructure which normal fast normal trains don't) applies equally to Maglev trains - yet people are thinking about Maglevs, or in Japan, actually building one!

@agolftwittler1223 2 года назад

Hyper Loop? What about Hyper Poop? I am a stable genius 😁

@philvanderlaan5942 2 года назад

Sail bogie (lack of ) steampunk.

@musewolfman 2 года назад

Definitely feels straight out of a Studio Ghibli movie.

@Mickeydadawg2265 2 года назад

Finnaly noo getting mad or beating up him with thomas has never seen...

@charleshax 2 года назад

Thank you for shitting on the Hyperloop

@Mariazellerbahn 2 года назад

How about the Wembley Never Stop ?

@johnd8892 2 года назад

Sail train also used on the Ffestiniog narrow gauge railway in Wales around the 1850s. Recent recreation working well with little construction and running cost : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eLwJlDUnhBY.html Low cost was a big plus compared to most of these very expensive ideas. Suitable for low traffic volumes whereas most of the others here like pneumatic versions would have trouble coping with big traffic numbers of passengers or freight.

@AtkataffTheAlpha 2 года назад

Congratulations! No British railways in this episode!

@roguerailroader4132 Год назад

Then the next list. BR: Guess whooo 😂

@Nlangkirby135 2 года назад

Hallelujah! No British rail in a top 5 list!

@richtravis9562 Год назад

Anyone aware of whether or not they ever thought of a vertical switch on the aerotrains? it occurred to me you could put lightweight ...bogies? on the lower sides so that they would ride on normal rails, and that center square could vertically switch, swing down so that the aerotrain could go up onto a set of elevated tracks, which could lift when not in use so that boring traditional trains could pass?

@fanofeverything30465 Год назад

Probably not

@chefchaudard3580 Год назад

The train could hover above the ground in stations, like hovercrafts. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nHtAEBJE5Sw.html 07:40

@AliGroves450 2 года назад

16:30, at least he does not know about the....701's yet.

@kommandantgalileo 2 года назад

The Aero Train's rails are still there

@firefox5926 2 года назад

2:52 i mean if you live in say a vally where the prevailing wind goes up the vally .. then .. yeah why not .. use gravety on the way down and wind on the way up..

@SamutheHamu 2 года назад

Hopefully British rail does not appear. Edit: *yyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees NO brrriitiisshhh rrraaaaaiiiiiiillllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

@nesgamerboy690 2 года назад

Agreed

@JackCarsonsRailroadVideos 2 года назад

Your wish has been granted

@kommandantgalileo 2 года назад

Number one is just a hyperloop, but even worse.

@ethribin4188 2 года назад

Musk saw this video, and tgen went "I can make all those trains work! All at the same time!" And then 'invented' the hyperloop.

@fredblonder7850 Год назад

You’re a bit unfair to the Brennan Monorail. If power was lost, the momentum in the gyroscopes would last plenty long enough for everyone to debark safely, and even then, once the gyro stopped, the car would just settle onto the skid on the side, which was how they parked overnight. The Bennie Railplane looks suspiciously similar to the Wuppertal Monorail.

@skipthefox4858 2 года назад

Can’t wait till your grandson puts Elon’s hyper-loop on their list

@MrCarrizojim Год назад

The Aerotrain might have been run on modified freeway k-rail center dividers.

@WizardOfOss 2 года назад

As for the Aérotrain, both cars #1 and #2 (the 422kmh one....) and a bit of the track both do still exist. The Tim Traveller made some videos about these: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ND3MegqYQFA.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J1je2r4_aj0.html But fun video again! You just gotta love how people were still dreaming of entirely new concepts, some more bonkers than others...

@Tomhellyer 2 года назад

Poor benny!

@harrisonallen651 2 года назад

From Sail Boats, Snub Nosed Lorries and coke can subways…

@ethribin4188 2 года назад

The only "redesigned train" that "worked" are buses and trucks. But carriges are older then trains. So technically busses and trucks are just an improved carriage, not a redesigned train.

@jazzykingjack2846 2 года назад

The br curse has been lifted folks.🎵hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah 🎵

@SDCHAWKSTITO 2 года назад

Darkness is free.....until his next video. Watch it all be British Rail (not counting the BR Roundhouse Rumble of Failure).

@shootingstarproductions2530 2 года назад

British Rail: Yes for you see, Darkness the curse, it was I who made you do a list that didn't involve us, you're still attached to our chains. You will *never* be free from us. British Rail, no!

@pollyjackson-dzacchaeus1342 2 года назад

i dont see the hyperloop or those battery powered freight cars yet

@TB76Returns 2 года назад

Did I just go through a list without having to mention BR? Yeah you did! Make sure not to again next time, or the gag will return!

@johnd8892 2 года назад

10:40 operating over existing rail lines to save space. Until you get to a tunnel, overbridge or anything else you see above a rail line. Later you see the station loading platform with the propellor at much the same or worse closeness to people as the dangerous German railcar. Even the cost of steel in the carrying framework has to be around a thousand times greater than the cost of two steel rails even before you pay for the workforce to assemble it along the route. Pity these aspects were not pointed out before the money was wasted building it.

@USAFreewayROTF 2 года назад

I already could tell it was a bad idea when the title "pneumatic" was used. The general idea of using pneumatic was ridiculous, especially for large scale objects. The pneumatic system is better off being used to transport small stuff instead of trains...

@leohale6449 Год назад

Dude what do you think an Elevator is in a 100+ story building.

@firefox5926 2 года назад

3:27 probably becase when the wind is blowing its easyier than walking and when the winds not blowing then you just walk like you were going to anyways ... why would you every have one of these? ..for the same reason i have a bicycle .. its a one off cost that comes in handy occationally and really doesnt cost me anythng to maintain..

@kevin2960 5 месяцев назад

Mag-lev float as well. And those have become successful

@levidarling5107 6 месяцев назад

This just comes to show, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@levidarling5107 6 месяцев назад

By the way I liked the video to see if more people may possibly see it and learn something new if they haven’t already. 👍

@SpheroJr3289 2 года назад

6th Hyperloop

@jadenbishop3388 2 года назад

Finally nothing from British rail

@JenniferinIllinois 2 месяца назад

Darkness is free of British Rail!!! Wait, I'm sure it will be back in the next top 5 most awful trains video. 🤣🤣🤣

@nilo9456 Год назад

It's easy to throw shade on mechanical, ie railroads, contraptions in retrospect. Even today many things prove impractical, good ideas that failed for one reason or another. People may have 20/20 hindsight, 20/20 foresight, not so much.