5 arm drags for Bjj and wrestling 

I'm coming from Judo now doing BJJ and my experience was that techniques that have worked for me great in Judo don't work against BJJ ( O Goshi, Harai Goshi...) so I had to adapt techniques I was never doing in sport Judo ( Sumi Gaeshi, Tomoe Nage...).

He uploaded his rolling video with Brian glick earlier

@@tarasbulba77 I use sumi gaeshi, hikikiomi gaeshi, yoko sumi gaeshi with a lot of success in BJJ. Aside from those and ashi waza everything gets me into deep trouble!

@@williamharding1319 true, Sumi worked best for me against BJJ stance 👍

@@williamharding1319 why lol

The problem with standing arm / wrist locks is that the other person still has a lot of mobility, and so prevention and escapes are much easier. Just getting into position to apply one is pretty difficult, even on someone who is NOT trained. Once you have grounded your opponent, wrist locks are much more effective, although the vast majority of BJJ practitioners favor arm locks. I have only ever been caught with a wrist lock when I was already in a compromised position on the ground. There are videos on the internet of aikido practitioners trying to utilize the kind of standing wrist locks you are referring to against BJJ practitioners or other grapplers - doesn't work out very well and they almost never even get into position to apply a technique. I have never seen ninjutsu in person, but based on the videos I've seen, it also looks relatively ineffective.

@@s23900 not wristlocks, armlocks... Thy are in judo too... Waki gatame, udegarami and udehineri are 3 of the ones i used, but in ninjutsu udegarami is called onikudaki and udehineri is sometimes called musodori... I used them against bjj practitioners in bjj practice because i couldnt pull off the takedowns that the instructor taught me against the other practitioners... I also used sumo style kotenage(similar to a wrestling whizer throw) and many of those start from an armdrag/pull so... Its even related to the topic of this video... However, i admit that wristlocks while standing are almost impossible to pull off.. the only times ive done them was when i already had control of the arm some other way(i was trying an armlock/armbar and they were resisting so i switched to a wristlock because its harder to resist), or as a defense against someone grabing my wrist... Wich, doesnt happen too often... I ended up leaving bjj for its price... It was too expensive for me to keep training... But i really liked it alot... I hope i can get back to practice it one day...

@@s23900 also my favorite combo is pull their arm and get into a wakigatame, twist arround to take them out of balance, chsnge grip into onikudaki, twist in the other direction and from that grip do an "osoto gari" but not as hard as you nornally need, its more like plscing the leg behind theirs as s pivot... You have to let their arm go before they fall... Because if whst ive been told is true, that could really fuck them up if you go to the ground with them like that(i wont be testing it anyway) but as a way to take someone down, its a cool one... And its technically allowed in bjj, but i think its not in judo...(i might be wrong about it) Ive also used that one in sanda sparring, sgainst a guy much bigger than me(but less experienced)

The problem with standing armlocks are they are a lot harder to train with safely and are pretty much guaranteed to cause serious injury in competition if allowed. Which is why they finally banned it in Judo. Using jointlocks on the ground involve gaining control of the person so you can slowly and more gently apply pressure in a manner where someone has time to recognize the danger and tap so people don't end up seriously hurt. But with standing jointlocks, there isn't that control over the opponent's body meaning the technique relies on quick and decisive completion (and often combined with a takedown) to be successful, but that obviously would result in the logical conclusion of the technique-an actual break or at least serious hyperextension. It's a recipe for disaster to use in training in bjj because if you have a situation where the other person doesn't recognize or respect the danger of it, you basically end up with it not working because you're not willing to actually apply the break or seriously injuring a training partner. Honestly, if someone I was training with start applying waki-gatame on me in sparring without an understanding that would be allowed in sparring, I would seriously be fucking pissed off.

@@gingercore69 You must be pretty high level and extremely quick to be able to pull all of that off before your training partner is able to release their grip and retract the arm.. Either you were just drilling these movements and not actually sparring, or your training partner is reacting in a way that even someone without training is unlikely to react - that is, death gripping your lapel with an extended arm no matter what you do. I have never seen anything close to what you are describing, which, just to clarify, is a 'waki gatame' into an 'oni kudaki' (similar to americana/keylock from standing), and then an 'osoto gari' (outside leg reap).. feel free to post a video of your sparring that shows you actually executing this though. I'd love to see that.

I do the same thing because of my wrestling background. I’m a green belt too I wonder the same thing lol.

@@nickmonadi I'd love to know the answer. Once, I asked a very seasoned black belt and former TKD instructor what he thought. All he said was "generally I pick them up and then put them back down on their feet" Seems like a gentleman's ippon.

@@williamharding1319 yeah i dont slam anyone. I just hip bump them to take the legs out and i go down smoothly with them. I honestly think it’s a good move it’s just that it’s not a common move in judo. Like hip throws are good moves but you don’t see them super often in wrestling

Absolutely, something a lot of people overlook is that from a law enforcement situation, most people are trying to get away from you. They don’t want to grapple with you they want to break contact and run, they will twist and pull away in ways that a competitor or grappler won’t. Many of them are also under the influence of narcotics and extremely sweaty and do not feel pain from pressure points, strikes, or dislocated joints. Gaining mechanical control over their body is key.