They thought it was a hoax because he was known to have strong survival skills. But they still sent out a rescue team, it's not like they just left him out there to die alone.
Tyrell 😭😭 all of Australia needs answers. I’ve been following this story since he first disappeared. A lot of evidence points to his real parents or one of their family members. Someone knows something!
I have zero sympathy for parents who partake in high risk activities (including their spouses who sign up w/high risk takers and bring children into the world). I guarantee he wouldn't have done it if he was the last person on the planet because there wouldn't be anyone to sing his praises for his dangerous feats and give him all sorts of pats on the back for being FIRST at this or FIRST at that and then everyone can tell their children to keep their chins up, at least they died, doing what they loved to do (for themselves). Selfish adults!
@@isabellind1292 Of course he knew the risk and did this despite that, what's your point really. I understand not helping in the death zone in the 8000+ meter mountains (K2, Everest etc...) where it's very dangerous to save someone. In this case, why on eath shouldn't you try to help? Is the cost of rescue that important to you? Do you lack empathy? Unless you expect us to stop sending ambulances to check on obese people, or people with lung cancer caused by smoking, you should be careful with the pointy finger. The lines will get very blurry afte a while when you start deciding what life deserves to be saved or not.
@@missJolie85 Don't misquote what I wrote so you can try and use it against me since you cannot cite anywhere in my comments that I said anything remotely related to his or anyone else's rescue just so you can lecture me on something you needn't! You and your pointy finger. WTF is wrong w/you?
He sounded like he had a stroke, speech was slurred. My mom had same speech before she went into a coma. He probably was disoriented and couldn't activate emergency equipment. Very sad😥
What really sucks is THAT close is when he realized he might have bitten off more than he can chew. He said it on his video they found. He just wanted to make it in one piece. How sad :(
My thoughts exactly. Also he sounded drunk/under the influence or having some sort of medical issue causing his speech to be slow and slurred like one would have during a stroke or such. Odd
@@FullMetalAtheist I would think it was because of how bitterly cold it gets. You know how your face feels when it is freezing & you're trying to talk but can't get the words out properly. I imagine that but 10X worse, coupled with the freezing waves. Poor guy!
As a teen, I got lost in a wooded area. Obviously, I found my way back to safety, but where I eventually found my way out of the forest was nowhere near where I thought I was. That was a frightening experience.
@@MrTHAUniverse facts they 100% murdered them because they saw two women alone in a forrest. Nobody could hear or help them if some wild men wanted to rape and kill them
Yeah it's exactly what I think. I also think the branch with the red bags attached to it (looked very deliberate, with knots and all) was made to wave/signal for help, in case of passing aircrafts or something. (Some suggested the shredded paper was also used to spell out SOS or HELP or something). I just can't imagine the fear and horror of the situation. You're sat there in the wilderness at night, maybe injured (some suggested one/both of the girls slipped down a ravine a night and got badly injured). You hear jungle noises and the only way to know what is around you is to shine the flash in that direction and hope the split second of light you get is enough. Maybe they met with foul play, maybe they just fell to the wilderness. I'm not sure. What I'm sure about, is that their last days were probably terrifying.
@@SalahEddineH Either that, or the photos were taken by someone who wasn't them. Remember, the camera also had a picture of the girl's bloodied head. Maybe someone was taking a photo to remember or something? Who knows. In the end, it's tragic.
@@ijnyamato643 while definitely possible, it sounds less likely to me. The photos are definitely eerie and give off a weird vibe. But I would think a person taking trophy photos would be more deliberate with their pictures. Not take 90 pictures of dark jungle. A small digital camera with flash can definitely take a photo of a human body in total darkness, instead we get these shots where the camera doesn't seems aimed, but instead just used as a light source. The photo of the bloodied head, I've read about it, but I've never seen it (maybe it was withheld by the police), the only photo I've seen shows hair. Maybe they look a bit redder in some places, but I see nothing that definitely looks like blood. I think that photo was also taken for light, one or both of the girls needed to look at some injury, to see how bad it was. It's what I would do. I use my phone to take a closer look at my injuries even when not in total darkness. Maybe I'm wrong, but it just seems to me that a killer taking trophy shots would take more deliberate pictures, and also *TAKE THE CAMERA with them.* It's a small thing that can easily fit in a pocket. Why leave it? What could possibly have happened that made the person give up the backpack? My personal theory is that a kid from the village found the backpack, maybe even next to the dead bodies, and took it home. Then got scolded by his/her parents for taking it, and that's how someone in the village was asked to turn it into the police, or they told the kid to throw the bag into the rice paddy where the woman said she found it. But yeah, I can definitely be wrong. I'm just theorizing here. Cheers!
@@bozm8744 I'm personally thinking that as it got dark the girl got hurt using the camera as a flashlight and the friend took the picture of her head to see how bad it was, and as most all people know blood attracts animals, or maybe cannibals who knows, it's a sad and weird story none the less, the fact they found the foot still in the boot makes me think animals or people because it would have had to have broken her leg off, with the bleached bones I think big animals such as large cats, they will hunt and eat in the same place untill the meal is gone or another animal came and finished them off after the person or animal injured them and they couldn't fight it off. Without more information noone will ever know, being that it was a trail in the middle of nowhere essentially who knows what other people could have been following them knowing the area better than them and attacked then when they got the chance, I think that's what happens and the "random" photos were pointed towards the noises they were hearing from people waiting to kill/hurt them, and it never said if the girl who's head was bleeding was still alive in the picture or if some morbid person killed her and took it, also the fact that some of the pictures were behind a rock makes me think they were hiding from someone/something.
For the second case I definitely feel like the tour guide the girls were supposed to meet up with should be examined more closely. There were already reviews of him being weird/pushy with female tourists in the past, and he even "jokingly" told the one tourist about cutting her legs off after she kept rejecting his advances. He knows the area by heart and would easily know areas that are off the path, and even more dangerous areas of the region, perhaps to stage evidence. For example leaving the backpack outside that village, when it wasn't there the day before, to make it seem like the girls had traveled further than they really did, in an effort to mislead police. And stage evidence in a way that made it look like maybe local tribes or something murdered the girls. And maybe the deleted photo from the camera was one that showed him in it. Plus it is very odd how only some remains were found. I know one common theory is that animals might be to blame for the remains being incomplete, but I think the guide used his machete he always carried to dismember and scatter their remains throughout the jungle. The severed foot in the shoe especially makes me think that.
Dang this theory sounds like the most accurate one I’ve seen so far my original theory was that the girls ran Into a tribe that then killed them and took those night photos and the picture of the girls head then place all the evidence so that it would remain a mystery forever
Im from panama and actually i can agree that some people of the country side are sex maniacs. Also, something to be noted: this country is corrupted as hell. I can assure you that the government would hide lots of evidence just maintain the country’s name clean because it practically lives off of tourism.
I agree, you can't trust never people like that. You don't know their intentions, there should be someone from the Nederlands supervising that guy or sth
@@mgamingyt9558 The night photos randomly taken were probably taken so they could see the threat. I think they were taken and held hostage or chased for a while because of all the calls for help on their phones. I think it was over 70 times they tried to call for help. I can't figure out the missing photo though? The guide would be a very good suspect.
@@mahmutdemir5024 this is one of my biggest fears in life. Every time I say good night to my parents or my wife, I have this anxiety about not finding them alive in the morning. So I hug them a little tighter, just in case.
@@SalahEddineH live best of your life with them bruh.. Love, like, show them passion, compassion... Bcoz one day all of us will hug some people last time even if we dont know it.. This is a scary reality :/
Honestly. I've listened to/watched so many podcasts/documentaries on it and it still boggles my mind. What's your theory?! Mine is foul play but.. It's so hard to say. It bugs me that some pictures were deleted from the camera roll.. But then why wouldn't whoever take the whole camera?! Poor ladies. My prayers to their families 🙏
To me after reading all the data timing and phone records there is nothing creepy about their disappearance. They were in trouble, tried to get signal for their phones, time passed one of them died of injury another died of hunger. I don't know why people like to create imagination and controversies.
@@cy4330 Thanks for your opinion! That's VERY possible. There's nothing wrong with questioning something you don't understand. We just gotta harness the ability to be able to look at all sides and realize when we're wrong. That's all it is. I agree that sometimes people get carried away with their theories.. Especially without looking at all the evidence. Anyways, thanks again for your comment. I like being able to look at all aspects of situations and hearing others opinions that have done the same. Take it easy. 😊👊
Same. However I just got a phone from my daughter and it stays charged for several days if I dont use it. I can go to bed without charging it and it's still on 70 the next day. I'm loving it.
I don't care how much of a daredevil Andrew was. You got a distress call from a man saying where he is and that he's sinking..............attempting a feat that *no other human* accomplished. Why the hell would you think it's a joke?
This is exactly why so many people died in the titanic. There weren't enough life boats because the creators belived it was unsinkable and wouldn't need as many. People make huge understatements due to being blinded by the belief that the best can never fail. Even if someone is an expert they can still make mistakes. I guess it is just human nature.
I think Andrew was a bit selfish. May he rest in peace, but why would you attempt something so dangerous knowing you'd be leaving behind your wife and son. I wouldn't put myself in that danger. I guess that's the difference between him and I.
Why on EARTH would you think Andrew was either calling in, or hoaxing your loved ones judging from that call? Absolutely insane. Poor bloke. New to your channel and loving it. Subbed! 👍🏻
Icandrawz RIIIIGHT!! Exactly what I was thinking!! But also made me upset they did not take this call seriously 😳 should never take that risk with someone’s life but I also think part of them thinking “ Oh he’s just calling in to mess with us , play a little joke before he paddles up to victory! Silly ole Andrew “ .. was their way of disbelief and in very much denial of him NOT actually making it and him actually loose his life during this crazy adventure when he was so close. Very sad 😢
*I don't care if I look like an idiot but when someone calls and tells me they are in trouble then I WILL call the authorities because it's better to know later that you were pranked rather than knowing the person who called is now dead.*
You at an idiot cause you never been to a jungle you can have iPhone 20 and you don't get connection you think there's satellites in jungle with thick trees
@@mariapardo9137 Kris and Lizan possibly being murdered and eaten makes sense to me. I couldn't help but think that after the narrator brought up that they found a foot and a pelvis. No one knows who could be out in those jungles and it's terrifying.
@@mariapardo9137 If it's true that there are cannibals, then it's probably that. The cut off foot could back this up as well. With the pelvic bone. But you know what, this couldn't have happened to them if they just followed the sign not to go any further. There is a sign, fucking follow it. They may not be stupid, but they were stubborn. I feel bad for them, I really do, but shit man. This is why I always put emphasis to follow the rules, specially for things you don't have clear knowledge in, like jungles.
@@faultline3936 thats why the sign is there. Panama's rain forest is no joke, it all looks the same and when panic sets in you are doomed. I've been to the treck that they went, always with a guide. They are very stern in saying stay in the maked path. Every single person that lives there warn you to stay in the path Hence why the dog returned. They were sadly very very stubborn.
Gary Box was my dad's cousin. I literally had no idea this video even existed until I saw it in my recommended just now..... I was only a year old during 9/11 so I never met him. The photo in the thumbnail was also on the front page of USA today at one point but its amazing that this video has 10 million views. I'm glad lots of people know about his story and how brave he was. I see Gary's family sometimes for holidays and gatherings and can confirm they are doing well.
IKR what do they mean a hoax? I thought maybe that was just the family's way of dealing with it, a sort of denial thing, but how and why would someone fake a call for help?
@@CrappleFartini The amount of fake calls is probably insurmountable because humans are just dog shit but the dogshit humans also should’ve felt or even just heard the severity in his voice if they just tried a bit harder or took it a bit more serious he would still be with his family today so I agree
where do people get money and then get the time off work to do this? are most of these "adventurers" who have all the latest gear really trust fund kids or wealthy people? I'm like dirt poor so I don't quite understand how this is possible (not the physical demands, the financial)
the firefighter Gary Box is my uncle, and a dear friend of my father. My Dad would tell me stories of them both joking around near the BBQ. My older brother is a cop and I'm a former Marine while my father is a doctor constantly working in the Covid units. My family looks back on Gary's heroism and tries to carry on serving our communities and country with honor.
I'm so sorry. I hope you're family is doing well. I hope they find him soon, or may he rest in peace. Stay strong. You men can do this you're very strong people. Thank you for your service.
may God bless you and your family. and may your uncle be resting in peace. you will meet up with him again one day. your family is full of heros.(you too!!).
@@porschabrewer2602I don't know if you watched it properly but he was a firefighter in 9/11 hun, unfortunately he won't be found. But he was a very brave man indeed.
Every time I hear about Lisanne & Kris' story, I'm just left with so many unanswered questions. The photo's they took are so strange to me- my immediate thought is that they were trying to use the camera's flash to get an idea of their surroundings. But when it comes to the ripped up paper & mirror on the rock, could it be possible they were trying to signal for help? By taking flash photos in the dark, maybe they were hoping someone near by [or even farther away/helicopters] would see the flashes. Maybe they used the mirror to reflect those flashes skyward somehow...? Based off the nighttime photo's it's pretty clear that they're all taken within the same little area. It's been mentioned in other sources that Lisanne wasn't feeling well prior to the hike & also had a minor injury to her leg from a possible volleyball incident. If they'd been hiking around for hours all day I wouldn't doubt her leg would have been at least a little bit sore or tender. The trail seems to start out relatively easy to traverse but after a certain point it becomes noticeably more rigid and rough. I wonder if it's possible that Lisanne or even both the girls took a tumble somewhere further down the trail/off the trail and got injured to the point that one of them couldn't move easily. If I were hiking in the mountains somewhere with a friend and I got hurt so badly, it would be hard for me to let my friend go off without me in search of help. Especially if it were getting dark/was already dark and stormy. I'd be scared out of my mind at the thought of sitting alone in a forest and beg my friend to stay with me. Maybe that's when they tried to contact emergency services? In situations where you find yourself lost, it's often said that you should "stay where you are" so that rescue can come find you, and to not continue wandering incase you become more lost. I like to believe that's why all of those photo's are of the same area [the trees and branches and view of the sky]. All of those photos were taken like 7 days after they had initially gone missing, I believe. That's 7 days of being in a rugged area covered in forest and mountains with no cell service. 7 days of being lost without proper clothing, food, and shelter from the elements. And one or both of you are too injured to find help. April 3rd Lisanne's phone dies and the rest of the call attempts are made from Kris' phone. Based off the photo of the back of Kris' head, I think maybe something happened to her. Maybe she lost consciousness or was succumbing to the elements at that point. Lisanne was probably the one trying to unlock her friends phone, and couldn't unlock it because Kris wasn't in any condition to communicate her password. Thus the multiple failed attempts to gain access. As for the questions surrounding the neatly folded shorts; it could be possible that someone completely unrelated found them down the river and folded them in plain sight so whoever lost them may find them again. [I've seen plenty of instances where lost gloves, scarves, jackets of the sort get hung on tree branches or placed somewhere incase the owner retraces their steps and finds them]. I could write down a lot more, but this is all just my own personal opinion formulated off of different sources. RIP Kris and Lisanne. TL;DR - As mysterious as this case seems, and the only other companion of the girls was the homestays dog [who unfortunately cant share its POV of the story], I think the entire thing was a case of misfortune after misfortune. One or both of the girls slid or fell off the path and got so badly injured that they couldn't move easily to find help. They stayed where they were in hopes someone would come along and find them, only for days and days to pass while exposed to the elements & no cell service, ultimately sealing their fate.
You're forgetting the pants. One of the girl's pants were found dry and neatly folded and placed on a rock. That practically solves the entire mystery. They were obviously captured and r&ped, most likely by a tribesman.
This is absolutely the most logical of conclusion without actually being there. Most people have these wild ideas of stalkers and wild men who eat humans ... Illogical thinking by people who have wild imagination. Your explanation mirrors my own. Rip to these two young ladies. What a sad story 💔
I haven't watched the video but from I understand this guy probably made some fake calls before - for some laughs. That's why no one took him seriously cus they thought he was fooling around. Or maybe they were angry at him for doing this type of shit all the time. I just don't understand why he didn't call the police or some emergency rescue team ( I would have saved their number if I went somewhere isolated and dangerous) cus it's their job to find and rescue the person as fast as possible
They DID take his call seriously. The "oh it was a hoax call" is a complete fabrication just to make a story out of it. It was all over the news here in NZ.
kendra williams I agree, every case must be difficult and sad for their families, but man... cases involving children and elder people brake my heart 😪🙏
@@alecb8509 Risking makes history, don't matter if it's dangerous or not there are many people out there risking their lives for peace. Peace is an example of people's hopes and dreams. He's never selfish because he's not doing it for fun, rather he's doing it staying true to his path. Never insult a man with a dream, if he ever accomplished that dream you would most likely give him some honor or praise.
See that's where my head goes too. They always talk about them being gone. But what about the horrific stuff that must of happened to them before the head and bones were scattered. Sickening.
@@bittersweet728 I don't know about murder. they were still alive for at least 6 days after. why would anyone keep them alive and let them use their phones to send out emergency calls?
@@jimskeuh ok so I know how this will sound. But I watched a video on a physic and she was getting that they were fed water and fish. Apparently it cleanses the system? If they sold organs then ate the rest since they don't waste. Again I know exactly how I sound. That's just what I watched. And even if I'm wrong I'm almost positive they suffered whether they were alive for days or alive until they weren't.
@@jimskeuh Having fun hunting them? Who knows what these tribe people were thinking. And obviously you know, that there isnt going any calls out of that jungle. Just a thought tho
Shuddering to think about what poor Will Tyrell may have suffered. Snatched right out of the front yard. What a bizarre and awful thing to have happen. Such an innocent and sweet child.
i remember when it happened. I mean i really hope his living his life unknown about who he is but i don't think so. we drove past the town when going to QL. and it just felt like gray if that makes sense
The world was unfair and brings a mysterious future among us. You got to pay for freedom to hide yourself in protection, watched over and being watched. Those who weren't watched, can always have an advantage within their lives.
Two unarmed young girls hiking in remote jungle in a foreign country? Bad, bad idea. They were raped, murdered, and probably dismembered by a machete or what is used on wild animal hunts in that area. There were people (native men) along that trail who saw them. The missing photo had the murderers (probably at least 2) in it. Multiple people tampered with the phone, which explains the log-in attempts with no password. The girls would not have done that. Was their MONEY still in the bag that was found? No. As another example, that Swiss tourist lady was raped and murdered in a jungle stream area that was not remote, but only about a mile from her hotel on Phuket, Thailand.
The photographs the two Dutch girls took at night are actually terrifying - they used the flash because they knew someone/something had alerted them and they were trying to find where it was hiding in the darkness. Very scary that you can't even go anywhere in pairs.
William Tyrell is still a big case and often talked about in Australia. Many theories have come about and everybody has their own opinions on it. Sad that a little boy has lost his future, and that they have never found a body, but hopefully on day the case will be solved.. for the sake of his parents and sister at the very least.
@@teefarox92his foster mother’s charges are irrelevant to William’s case. Tho his parents are still druggies and can’t keep their other children out of the foster care system they hate so much. Go figure.
The two girls that went missing, doesn’t seem like much a mystery. Sounds like somebody abducted them, killed them, and disposed of the body parts weeks later
What’s scary is the only one who might know what really happened to Kris and Lizzanne is the host families dog that returned to them without the girls.
These missing person's cases are all so very sad. 💔 The "not knowing" has to be absolute torture. Sending love and hugs to all of the families of those missing, and of course, the missing as well. 💗💕💗
The girls were obviously attacked and murdered by people. Animals don't leave such clean cuts. Her foot was perfectly severed and the edges of the hip bone were sharp, which wouldn't make sense if it was animals. My bet is the local tribesmen killed them and possibly ate them. They didn't expect an investigation, but when it started they got worried they'd be found out, so they claimed to "find" the backpacks. In regards to the 911 calls, it's also possible the tribesmen chased them off the path and made a hunt out of it, as is common with cannibalistic tribes.
The woman who committed suicide killed her son. Making statements like "He's mine" and "he will be with me" after taking him on a vacation for a kid, buying toys was her way of making him happy before killing him. It probably alleviated some of her guilt as well. Very sad.
I thought that maybe she selled him for drugs because they found out she died on too much of "medical" stuffs idk but is it just me or did anyone else almost cried of hearing those stories
Also the whole he will be taken care of and you will never find him also could mean that he is dead and buried and is now in heaven being taken care of by God or the term taken care of like as in killed
You know something, i almost skipped through the two girls missing because i have heard the story so many times but Mrs Lutch, you have included so much more detail i have not heard before that i had to keep listening Thanks for the addition content 😎👍
it's always creepy when a dead person makes a statement that actually stands the test of time, like saying "You will never find him" or "You will never know what happened" and then years and decades later it remains true
Good theory but i think it's that tribe near the trail they took that was off of it and they found them and hurt them ams they ran off and then large animals killed them and the tribe people came and spreaded their bones as a warning to others
Agree, I’ve always thought they were killed. I think whoever murdered them were using their phone to take the night time photos, to make it seem like they were still alive. There are so many things that point to foul play in this case, it’s too bad no justice will ever be served.
@@princeravnos6705 the problem with the tribe theory is that those trails are apparently for tourists. The evidence presented in the video makes it seem like the people they came in contact(in any), had knowledge of how technology works(phone, cameras). What probably happened is that they ran into some dangerous people(locals) and the rest is history. You just dont walk into a rural parts of a 3rd world country and just expect everything is going to be fine. To think they went hiking in an unknown area, without a guide is idiotic at minimum. I also partially blame the host family for apparently not portraying the dangers of doing this alone.
It wouldn't make any sense for the woman to give her kid away if she was scared of losing custody of him. And then to kill herself guaranteeing she won't see him again? Chances are she killed him. Horrible.
I agree. Sounds like a classic psychotic break. She killed the boy so she could keep him or whatever she rationalized it as, then killed herself out of guilt (or to be with him).
Sigh I might sound insensitive and cold. Dealing with people of depression is tough. The feeling is like carry a volatile liquid when accidentally touches the forbidden area, it will boom 💥 casualty of themselves and those around them. A gestures or a word can trigger them to kill themselves and think radically. Sigh
In 2005, a girl from Europe decided to travel Syria all by herself. A few days, she was reported missing from the hotel she was staying at. Lesson to girls, NEVER travel to a country you aren't familiar with or don't have any relatives. Those 2 girls surely were killed.
Be careful, they might take this in a sexist way and attack you for it. I wish women would open their eyes more and actually realize how fucked up humans (especially men) and the world can be.
Reminded me of Magdalene Zuk. She traveled to Egypt from Poland alone and some unknown things happened (there is also video footage) she ended up jumping/being thrown to her death out of a hospital where she should’ve been safe. It’s a mystery what really happened. She was healthy and mentally stable before leaving home but once she was there she acted strange. Very sad. Both cases.
Regarding the disappearance of the two girls in Costa Rica: although you cannot change the fact that they are both confirmed dead, you can still track the whereabouts of the recovered phones through GPS. All smartphones have a GPS in them; the phones were still active after they were found, hence, you can track exactly where the phone was every minute of the day. (Google maps does this too: it will show you every place you have been since turning on the phone. I've used it for addresses I can't remember; cops use it to track a criminals activities) It won't bring them back, but it may reveal a bit more information about how the backpack ended up miles away from where their remains were found.
@@ducklingchief8289 exactly. some remote jungle tribe would have no idea how to open up fotos on a camera and go thru them to delete what they wanted to. some pervert couldve been following them for gosh knows how long. they girls couldve even got severly deydrated, walking for hours in the sun and heat, and died due to dehydration. maybe thats why one pair of shorts were neatly folded - one of the girls couldve taken them off to try to cool her body temperature down, and died from the heat and dehydration. maybe there is no sinister reason for a photo to be deleted. its a mystery that is most likely never to be solved.
I'm SO confused by people who go to a foreign country they have never been to before and "see what happens". "We might stay a week, 3 months who knows? Might teach a little"... like what?
lol I did that when I was in a long distance relationship (Now married and living together) I flew to Korea only knowing him and not knowing the language so I really put my life in his hands.
My friend's been teaching in Korea for three years and will probably stay for another two. She also taught in Istanbul. She's loving it. It's fine if your careful.
I’ve got 2 theories for the girls 1) they did indeed get lost. One sustained an injury. They used their phones and camera as flashlights and tried to conserve battery while calling for help. One girl died, the other tried to get into her phone (her phone already being dead) and that explains the failed attempts. Deleted photo possibly the result of a glitch or some other technological explanation. The backpack put together by natives who stumbled on their remains and left it for the villagers. No foul play. It should be noted it’s not true that the Jean shorts were found zipped and neatly folded. 2) Foul play but not by locals. Someone with technological experience and familiarity with the area took an opportune moment to stalk and attack the girls, possibly after they got lost or injured some other way. The girls were kidnapped and lord only knows what the perpetrator did to them. He kept them somewhere away from the elements, with trash nearby. He deleted one photo and maybe even took the others at night to confuse any investigators. He removed their clothing, put their belongings in a backpack as some kind of messed up calling card. And he got away with it.
Like what's the point of having option of making distress call when it's always seen a joke or hoax. *has distress call option* *someone makes distress call* *surprised pikachu face*
My suspicion: The two girls were being followed, then someone tried to kidnap them by knocking them out with a blunt object, hence the bleeding on one of their heads. The girls ran for it and tried to seek refuge as well as seek for help by calling emergency. When the attacker came, they tried to take photos of the attacker, hence the photo at which the attacker was present was deleted. The girls were probably tortured, raped, etc, this part is unknown, we could only hope that they did not suffer. Then afterwards, to ensure that the identity of the person was no found, the girls were murdered, to ensure that the investigation would be harder, the bodies would be cut up. This would ensure that the person was able to easily bury the bodies discretely and in small batches, meaning that the smell of the bodies would not be as strong. May they rest in peace.
And then he / they put all their stuff / the evidence in their backpack with risk of leaving dna etc and left it for the police. Sounds very convincing
The kayaker’s story is frustrating. If you have a wife and a small child, you have no moral right to do such dangerous things. People obsessed with adrenaline and stupid records should not have a family, until they grow up.
I always think about that when I'm about to do a dangerous trip. Some weeks ago I climbed a hill and met some people there that helped me get to the top, and it was awesome, but really dangerous. Risks of falling were high and I even though about going down in some parts. It was at the same time scary and amazing so since that day I've been thinking about inviting some friends to go there but i always get that horrible feeling that it's so easy to fall from there but yet the reward is so unique so I'm still thinking about it.
@Brendan 5629 999 you mean i presume you're talking about something satanic? Yes its 999 not 666 And lucifer come from "Luciferin" not the devil luciferin is what gives fireflies their glow.. You learn something everyday! 😊
Animals reduce a corpse to scattered bones within days and the jungle's heat and humidity makes it happen even faster. It's not strange that their bones were found that way, given the area in which they died.
@@sarataha5095 they said she was bleeding there. She probably told here friend that the nack of her head hurt, and they took a flashlight photo to take a look at it. If they just used the flashlight without taking a photo it would drain battery, so they just took 1 photo. Of course this is just my guess and cant be confirmed
That must have been very scary. I sometimes get nervous when I hear weird sounds at night even if I were at home LOL but in the woods is on a whole new level
By the way I don't use camera flash often so I'm not sure but wouldn't the flash have brightened up the dark enough so that the camera photos show more? Only a tiny portion of the photos of the incident are visible, with most of it being pure black.
@@MinjaeLee-c9z that's what happens. You could reveal a lot more using long exposition but that takes hours and if you need to escape ASAP it doesn't help. I did use my camera a lot at night trying to see but it looks like those photos. Think about a road, where the elements are not too close to the camera itself. The phone does a better job.
@@Mina-gs8tq Hmmm... I understand. But does the flash allow the user to at least have a nice glimpse on what is in front of him? The photo might not be able to capture the scenery but Im curious if people are able to see through at least for a moment
@@MinjaeLee-c9z if there is an object very close to the direction of the flash, then yes. If you're are walking in a path, for instance, so you don't have trees right in front of you and close enough then no. The light then can't reflect on anything and it will come back as a black amount of pixels. It is pretty scary and considering one of the girls was in STEM she probably knew so they must have been reaaaally desperate :( EDIT: I read your comment better now. So, it's tricky because depends on the quality of the flash. Generally there's should be something to reflect the light but yeah, still better than a picture. IF your eyes are not too used to the shade at that point, otherwise the pupil can't shrink fast enough to allow your sight to adjust for such a difference in light. Pitch black ---> sudden flash of light. Unlike. But they could see if there was anyone close to them.
Nah I don't think so, I think they made the fatal mistake of going off trail for too long trying to be adventurous and lost their sense of direction in the forest very quickly. It's extremely easy to get lost in thick forest and die because everything around you can look the same. The weird photos of seemingly random things only being late at night can be explained as the girls trying to use flash on their phone as a light source while moving around in the darkness while trying to conserve battery. They set up a mirror and an SOS sign with paper. One of the girl's most likely sustained an injury in the darkness of night to make matters worse judging by the shot of blood on the head, the other girl probably took a shot to better see how bad the wound was. I feel for them, that had to be a horrific way to die.
That's why it's so important to stick to the trail when you're hiking, very easy to get lost and die in the darkness of night if you're not an extremely experienced hiker familiar with the area. Those girls seemed like the adventurous types, only thing I cannot explain is the missing photo separating day and night, very creepy.
@@Deathkill06 could be possible but how do you factor in your theory the numerous attempts of unlocking the girls' phones while the bag and the contents inside were completely dry? Also the deleted photo as well? How would their bag be separated from their bodies in which contained their gadgets if they had indeed gone off trail?
@@aliwadani5970 I am not white and have done it plenty of times. I am Dutch. We travel all over the world. This trip to Panama the girls did plenty of Dutch people have done. I went to Panama by myself as well. Whenever you travel just like when you stay in your own country you just have to be careful. I wouldn't go into the jungle alone or only go to places where it is save enough. The same goes for when I am home in my own country. You don't visit certain areas at night. Although the Netherlands is for sure much saver than the US which is a very dangerous country. In my country after clubbing people cycle home alone. Many times they are drunk. But nothing ever happens when women go outside alone. If something happens that just means you are unlucky. I just ask locals when travelling what is possible and what not to visit by myself. Whenever travelling wherever you go you will see plenty of other travellers. Whether it is in Panama, Oman or Myanmar. Everywhere there are other travellers. Out of the 40+ countries I have been to about half of it I went to alone. Most places are not really adventurous anymore because you'll see other travellers even in the most remote places😂 it is crazy. Even when I went to Saudi Arabia at the beginning of this year there were some tourists and they literally only opened up their borders a year ago for tourists.
The girls, Lisanne and Kris as well as Andrew, were engaging in highly risky behavior and evidently couldn't be talked out of it. The children who lost their lives weren't doing anything risky, but some adult/s decided their fate and they couldn't fight back. So very sad. Condolences to the friends and families of those who were lost.
@sarads7877 walking a trail in the jungle in a foreign country. I am quite adventurous but wouldn't do that unless I was in a group of people. You have to think a few steps ahead and be careful...
I mean people don't do shit like that for normal reasons even for attention or clout or whatever.. he might have been set up or blackmailed maybe he has a connection with the family and the kidnappers and did that as a cruel joke to the father
@Onion Face You're right, what I meant is that the focus should be on curtailing the behaviour of those who cause the violence, rather than the victims of it (where overwhelming evidence shows that violence against women is disproportionately perpetrated by 'men' @dzta Hydro, and the comment I was replying to was talking about plural females/ladies). If psychopathy was the common root cause of violence against women there might be a chance of preventing it, unfortunately, most of the offenders are just cnuts.
@@luciuscornelius7177 I think it's untreated mental issues + the fact that we women are physically weaker most often than not... I live in Latin America and here most of us learn not to take crazy risks like that because there's too much crime for too many reasons but mostly socio economical ones but I think you're right, you can't really blame them because they lived in a country that is extremely safe in general and they probably think everywhere else is gonna be the same...sad thing that our countries are still like this :/
I find this case very interesting. I have a couple of major issues with it: 1) Why were there no pictures taken of the girls with the dog anywhere on the trail? 2) Why were there no clear shots of them at night? 3) Why did they not make a goodbye video or leave any messages on their phone? I feel there is absolutely an extra piece we are missing and that holds the reason of what happened.
Many believe that they may have been taken by a unknown figure, during the night photos. As they took pictures of weird objects like the branch. And then the behind of the girls heads bleeding. There is no way her friend will do that.
@@sirmemester1761 yeah, the "lost in the jungle" doesn't seem like it is the sole factor as to their deaths. It is very likely an underlying reason, but why would they wander off into the jungle with no supplies. I simply cannot imagine the fear they must have felt.
I believe they got murdered by some tribe (village), and this tribe took the remaing objects and threw in another village, like the bag for exemple. Sorry for the bad english.
The fact they were in the jungle essentially but the camera had deleted photos? How did that photo get deleted in the middle of nowhere? Also the photos in the dark likely for use as a flashlight is so creepy. The whole case is absolutely mind boggling. I've seen many cases, but this is one haunts me.
ALso, the cell phone was charged after it died from what I underwstabnd. For whatever reason I think the lady that found the bookbags knows a HELL of a lot more than she is saying. I think her and her husband killed those girls. Sick. I have read a lot on it....Not just this vid of them.
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Why didn’t they question the sister William was playing with?? The grandmother was outside too the mother was the only one who went inside to make a “drink”. Something doesn’t feel right about this whole deal
15:00 there was no blood in the photo. The reason that photo was of interest to the police was because at that point they had been in the woods lost for several days, and her hair is immaculately clean.
