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@alpschild
@alpschild 6 месяцев назад
Just a warning on hiking in extreme heat- I made this mistake with my dog one summer and she developed Rhabdomyolysis on the trail. She collapsed about 1.5 miles from the trailhead. Thankfully, other hikers helped me carry her to my car. We immediately took her to the emergency vet where they were able to give her fluids and pain meds, but I could have killed my dog. Not worth it. This leads me to my second lesson - never hike alone. Be safe!
@bb-om9pm
@bb-om9pm 6 месяцев назад
How can you be so stupid? Why don't you think about your actions beforehand😢
@adamantium4797
@adamantium4797 6 месяцев назад
It's a dog. So what. Lol
@mainemermaid6596
@mainemermaid6596 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the reminder. People mistakenly believe that their dogs can endure anything, and don't take their water and calorie needs into account too when packing (and need to take a rest in the shade, or be wearing a coat on long hikes in the cold weather). 🐕 ❤ 🐕
@nuclearfetusdismemberment9227
@nuclearfetusdismemberment9227 6 месяцев назад
My dad told me that coats aren’t for dogs (native dogs in his region are atlas sheperds, they don’t even have long hair)
@ash.lou613
@ash.lou613 6 месяцев назад
this is why there is a 25 rule. 25c above and -25c below animals stay home. my little dog chihuahua got a little heat sick one day when the weather decided to go from 20 to 30 in about an hour and then we got massively rained on. he started vomiting on the trail and so we stopped. ive learned since then there is a dog sport rule of 20. i mad eit 25. but for sled dogs its the 30 rule. anyways point is for pets, keep a rule. my dog does not got outside past -5c and remains at home 25c and above.
@jamesmiller5304
@jamesmiller5304 6 месяцев назад
When it comes to the Steve Curry tragedy your not victim shaming, what Mr. Curry did was not only dangerous but stupid and selfish when you learn his wife basically begged him not to do it. And those photos of him under that sign just Haunting so sad so unnecessary.
@hippiebits2071
@hippiebits2071 6 месяцев назад
Given his age and that we don't completely know his decision making capabilities perhaps labeling his actions as foolish and stubborn would be more appropriate?
@katherinewild1599
@katherinewild1599 6 месяцев назад
Maybe he had some dementia.
@TrudyPatootie
@TrudyPatootie 6 месяцев назад
*He definitely had an obsession to hike this dangerous Death Valley. Critical* *thinking didn't deter him from achieving his goal which he did accomplish.* *But of course to what end? I felt empathy for his wife left behind. I can only* *imagine her grief mixed with anger.*
@TrudyPatootie
@TrudyPatootie 6 месяцев назад
@@BonuxCouleur *That is not funny Bonux..I hope she does NOT* *read your insensitive comment.*
@cristinesomerville4522
@cristinesomerville4522 6 месяцев назад
I do not understand for the life of me why ON EARTH that man would go hiking in DEATH VALLEY of all places in the SUMMER of all times! 120 degree weather?! Like WHY?! I agree with you, that was UNBELIEVABLY stupid! Also he was like ALL BUNDLED UP in that photo!!! I just don’t understand WHY he wanted to do that! Like what was he trying to prove?! I mean that was just straight up a suicide mission.
@Mary-momof8
@Mary-momof8 6 месяцев назад
There's no victim shaming. You're pointing out legitimate concerns and helpful comments!
@marianparoo1544
@marianparoo1544 6 месяцев назад
Victims have been hurt by others. These are fools responsible for their own fates.
@readdeeply9278
@readdeeply9278 6 месяцев назад
Because really, Death Valley in the summer? If I'd done something so stupid, I would absolutely expect to be shamed, post mortem or otherwise. Letting such behavior pass is no help to novice hikers, who might think this could actually be a thing. Coddling stupidity can be very dangerous.
@danasandoval624
@danasandoval624 6 месяцев назад
@@readdeeply9278I totally agree. We live at a time if you give any negative comments or reports people say you are shaming the person. Not true pointing out dumb acts or pointing out mistakes that many could have been avoided can save others. Rather than inform people using examples of others that did stupid things they don’t want the ignorance pointed out because the thought now is ignore it because they can’t take constructive examples.
@williamdiedrich3729
@williamdiedrich3729 6 месяцев назад
@@marianparoo1544 It must be nice to have never made any errors in judgement.
@pavelslama5543
@pavelslama5543 6 месяцев назад
70y/o, hiking, desert in summer on a northern hemisphere, alone... Yeah, thats about as risky as playing a russian roulette, so no worries about "victim shaming", this was practically a suicide from the get go.
@feelingbetternaturally1099
@feelingbetternaturally1099 6 месяцев назад
Hiking in Death Valley in Sumner is suicidal.
@conditionallyunconditional5691
@conditionallyunconditional5691 6 месяцев назад
It's a challenge similar to Mt Everest.
@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw
@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw 5 месяцев назад
Yes. I.E. suicidal. The slopes of Everest are littered with corpses of rich a**h*les who paid fortunes thinking that some sherpa is going to carry them to the top piggyback or something. Many have NO mountain experience at all. Not quite true. They get to die on the world's highest mountain. An "experience " I suppose.
@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw
@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw 5 месяцев назад
@ feelingbetter Re Death Valley. I'd say the clue is in the name. Nominative determinism.
@yougotafriendinme5281
@yougotafriendinme5281 29 дней назад
It’s actually really sad that just because people want to take a challenge that other people actually end up in harms way trying to rescue them
@stevesauck7001
@stevesauck7001 6 месяцев назад
I moved to Arizona 2 years ago, from Chicago. I couldn’t believe the amount of people who had to get rescued off the mountains, or died while hiking in the heat. First neighbor I met said “welcome to Arizona, always have a water bottle with you”. And I always do.
@alexacarrillo4339
@alexacarrillo4339 6 месяцев назад
I drove across AZ constantly when I was in college and never had less than 10 gallons of water with me.
@kayhansen9229
@kayhansen9229 6 месяцев назад
Someone might think it's a goofy place to say this but remember when you're a woman if you suddenly unexpectedly start your period it changes your whole physiology and you cannot take the Heat . I was a dancer and a speedrunners. Get down here in Houston when I went to mow the lawn one day I started my period in the middle of it and was cramping hard and couldn't take the heat had to actually stopped in the middle of the yard abandoned the lawn mower I didn't realize I had started my period I thought I was getting heat stroke but it turned out that it was my period but I was in danger of heat stroke or heat sickness son sickness I was a young woman too just watch out if your girlfriend starts her period turn around.
@alexacarrillo4339
@alexacarrillo4339 6 месяцев назад
@@kayhansen9229 I love the dry heat and it doesn’t do much to me but I definitely noticed people didn’t seem to understand their cars could overheat stranding them.
@EllesGhost13
@EllesGhost13 5 месяцев назад
I live in a colder country and still always have a bottle with me I think id be trecking round with a 5L water bag I am not built for the heat :')
@bwnco
@bwnco 5 месяцев назад
Hope not another liberal from city ruining are west like has been happening. Hence all the rescues....
@kristymoore7052
@kristymoore7052 6 месяцев назад
As I get older, 60 this year, I find that I see more and more, in person and online, older experienced people getting into trouble or even dying. It’s hard to get old and admit your limits and I fear ego plays a huge role in this. I am not alone to an extent, so I know I have to check myself and recheck myself to better know what I am truly capable of…now. I wanted to backpack in Utah, but everywhere I researched that looked so cool, included rock and canyon scrambles. Dang. Should have done that when I was younger, because I can’t risk it now as I am most likely not capable.
@Tlyna1952
@Tlyna1952 6 месяцев назад
I am 71, same age as Steve Curry and in the past I was a very avid and experienced hiker and backpacker and will admit I took several stupid risks back then, generally in going it alone. I have wised up over the years and no longer try hard terrain or take chances hiking alone. I saw that small bottle of water in the photo that he had and had to think he was a damned fool even if he had a few of them. I've never been in Death Valley but have hiked in mid 90s with triple digit heat indexes and would never go with something like that even then. In Death valley it would be a...well, death sentence, especially for the extended hike he did. You would need much more water and not doing it during the height of the sun. I feel sympathy for his family.
@kb-vw9ix
@kb-vw9ix 6 месяцев назад
At this age I do rail trails and popular easy hikes…. And I’m very intentional with foot placement etc…. I want to continue to enjoy the outdoors but no more jumping from rock to rock…..
@mtadams2009
@mtadams2009 6 месяцев назад
I am 64 and doing longer backpacking trips than I have ever done in my life. The gear has gotten extremely light and I now have the time to properly train. You do have to know your limitations though. Hiking in triple digit weather is very dangerous for anyone.
@jamiepippin3892
@jamiepippin3892 6 месяцев назад
Older people trying to remain “cool” is a fairly new phenomenon
@babybear2395
@babybear2395 6 месяцев назад
​@@jamiepippin3892 We invented "cool" 😉
@Tina06019
@Tina06019 6 месяцев назад
Kyle, Long comment here. I want to give you and the r/hiking subreddit credit for convincing me to FINALLY get a satellite messenger device this month. I have hiked regularly for almost 50 years, most recently in New England. I am also retired US Army and a combat-zone veteran. But that’s really my point: you don’t accumulate near-50 years of outdoor experience without becoming OLD. I kept hearing and reading about climbers of my age and level of experience getting lost or injured in the wilderness, and the huge, expensive, dangerous, and often disappointing search and rescue efforts mounted to find them. Those situations are horrible for loved ones, and frankly embarrassing for the lost old person. (At least I would be embarrassed, even if very grateful and willing to pay the SAR expenses.). I was never a great athlete, and my abilities have of course diminished with age. If rescuers know near-exactly where I am, not just my itinerary and my planned return time from my family, there will be far less effort (and money) expended on me. I figured with a satellite messenger device, I could tell my family that I was safe but hunkered down and would therefore be home a day later than expected, no need to call SAR. Part of what I like about hiking is that it is cheap, especially as I don’t do the ultralight thing. (I would rather just go slower and have everything I might reasonably need on my back.). The Garmin inReach Mini is definitely NOT cheap, but I received it for Christmas this year. Now I just need to figure out how to use it. Best wishes, LTC (Ret) Tech-Challenged Old Lady Hiker.
@mousetreehouse6833
@mousetreehouse6833 5 месяцев назад
@Tina, Easy fix, just find an average IQ eight year old. They should have the device up and running in no time! Happy hiking! 😉🙂😀
@lindasue8719
@lindasue8719 5 месяцев назад
I've got one (Garmin InReach Explorer) not for hiking (yet?), but for traveling in areas where there might not be cell signals, and in case of car trouble. I haven't become familiar with all the features yet, but the first thing I did was put in a few free customized texts that I can send to specific people, to give them my location and send help. I'm really happy I've got it!
@trishweber9695
@trishweber9695 5 месяцев назад
so smart, great advice my family and I are just getting into this hobby and I will take this lesson to heart. Thanks for sharing
@ZebaKnight
@ZebaKnight 4 месяца назад
You not only got older but you're also wise! I got older too... I'm working on being wiser ☺
@bonnienichalson5151
@bonnienichalson5151 3 месяца назад
Wisdom with experience +Age lol keep on keeping on 👍🌼🤗🎉✨🫖🥳🍷
@elainebmack
@elainebmack 3 месяца назад
Hiking in unfamiliar terrain has its risks. I once took a two-month long solo trip to the UK and decided to explore the Scottish Highlands. Being accustomed to traveling alone I started checking out trains and other ways of getting up there, but a little voice told me not to go alone. Take a guided tour. Normally I don't care for "tours", but I trusted that "little voice" and found Haggis Tours in Edinburgh. It was fantastic! When we arrived in Loch Ness, I spotted a bulletin board covered with lots of photos of people who traveled alone to go hiking in the Highlands and were never seen again. I was really happy to not have gone there alone.
@jjettswriting1900
@jjettswriting1900 10 дней назад
your story gave me the chills and reminded me to always listen to that little voice since its job is to keep you safe.
@india1422
@india1422 День назад
So many people underestimate the Highlands. One year a private girls' school took them up into the Cairngorms. The girls' "am weather equipment" was plymsoles and a black rubbish bag each. I kid you not. Fortunately the rescue mission which was launched managed to save everyone. Of course, at is so often the case at elevation, the weather had taken a turn for the worst
@ErinHinnen
@ErinHinnen 6 месяцев назад
Wilderness cameras on trails are pretty common out here on the west coast. They are used in part to track big cats in the area.
@jaymontgomery3330
@jaymontgomery3330 6 месяцев назад
Or Big Foot.
@arguchik
@arguchik 6 месяцев назад
@@jaymontgomery3330 He prefers to be called Sasquatch.
@Geronimo2Fly
@Geronimo2Fly 6 месяцев назад
@@arguchik LOL
@bobcampbell5151
@bobcampbell5151 6 месяцев назад
@@arguchik No realy he likes Sasq
@abelis644
@abelis644 6 месяцев назад
​@@bobcampbell5151 Just don't call him late for dinner.🦧
@kterhune100
@kterhune100 6 месяцев назад
When I was younger on a trip down to New Mexico we took a short cut through Death Valley (not smart I KNOW my dad wouldn't hear it). The town right before you got into the thick of the heat told us to load up on water bottles, snacks and drinks. We were told to check the fluids in the car and to NOT stop and get out and to keep the AC going and windows up. We did and we (obviously) got out okay, but let me tell you... the heat we VERY uncomfortable and the ice packs we pulled out to cool down with melted within 4 minutes. That was in the 90's.
@janefromtennessee
@janefromtennessee 6 месяцев назад
Glad you lived
@kayhansen9229
@kayhansen9229 6 месяцев назад
Back in the 1960s my parents used to always drive from Southern Cal to Nebraska they had to drive through the desert we didn't have any air conditioning in our cars in those days and they drove an old clunker that wasn't fit for that trip but we always made it my dad would wait until he knew he'd be driving through the desert California and or Nevada at night he would always try to drive straight through because my parents didn't even have money for a 3$dollar motel back in those days my parents were in their thirties back then.
@littlenonni4410
@littlenonni4410 6 месяцев назад
@@kayhansen9229sounds like you were incredibly lucky that the car didn’t ever break down 🫣
@kayhansen9229
@kayhansen9229 6 месяцев назад
@@littlenonni4410 I think we had to pull over and put water in the radiator back in those days cars would overheat radiator with bubble up. My mom would pressure my dad into doing stuff like that cuz she wanted to go back to see her parents. We were really super poor we had no money to stop and get food or drinks my mother would make gross sandwiches in the car we didn't even have money for an ice chest back then motels were 2 3 and $4 a night. We never stopped at night. A cola was 10 cents a bottle a terrible extravagance back then.
@JakeJake2021
@JakeJake2021 6 месяцев назад
My dad too put us at unnecessary risk several times throughout my childhood. It’s hard to understand. It was part of the abuse. I know exactly what you mean when you say “my dad wouldn’t hear it”.
@kaycep6819
@kaycep6819 6 месяцев назад
I was about 12 and camping in the desert with my dad. We were having breakfast at the local restaurant and someone came bursting through the door shouting “it’s raining!!!” My dad stopped and told me “get in the car NOW!” We drove the buggy back to camp; maybe 7 mins from the restaurant. We were floating the moment we got off the paved road for our campsite. No rain was forecasted; it was a freak storm. We were OK, but that’s a lesson. I will never forget. Rain + the desert = major danger. RIP for all the folks in the video; whether they made good or bad decisions. Thanks Kyle I love your channel
@Geronimo2Fly
@Geronimo2Fly 6 месяцев назад
It sounds scary, but I don't understand your story. You were in a restaurant, it started raining, and your dad rushed to drive you back to a flooded campsite? Shouldn't you both have just stayed in the restaurant where you were safe?
@msyemisi7930
@msyemisi7930 6 месяцев назад
​@Geronimo2Fly I'm confused myself I don't understand what the story supposed to reflect🤷🏽‍♀️
@loganlove9986
@loganlove9986 6 месяцев назад
I believe flash flooding?? Dry ground can’t take in a whole lot of water all at once like wetter ground; so a lot of it will cause a flood in the desert The restaurant probably was in a flood prone area, and their campsite was on better ground?? (I think) Point being, if you see a rush of water in the desert, you’re in a bad spot. Make sure to avoid flood-prone areas if possible
@Meggligee
@Meggligee 4 месяца назад
My best friend lives in Utah and has advised me whenever I visit, especially with my boys, that even if there is a 5% chance of rain you stay out of the slot canyons or anywhere that you’d be in danger in a flood. Always listen to the locals!
@chriper77
@chriper77 3 месяца назад
​@@Geronimo2FlyI was confused too and hoped the commenter would explain more. My best guess is that they were safe in the restaurant, but that they wanted to rescue their camping equipment. They managed to get to their camp in 7 minutes, in which time it had already started to flood
@robynaddie2071
@robynaddie2071 6 месяцев назад
I have 2 stories. This year at Thanksgiving we were at Zabriskie Point in Death Valley. My 17 yo son WALKED AWAY. Without telling us. We couldn't find him for over an hour. No cell service , no water. It wasn't hot, but still. We were livid at his poor choice. 2) We watched a couple at the Grand Canyon CLIMB OVER A RAILING to take a selfie. It was so scary. They were smiling and happy. I can't believe people are still this careless with their own lives.
@shark50401
@shark50401 6 месяцев назад
Just this summer I was visiting my 21 yo brother. He went into a cave system he had never been in and got lost underground for almost an hour. He only had a crappy half charged cell phone for light. I couldn't follow him in and there was no signal. He then made it out and promptly got lost in the woods. Finally found him right before dark in a field.
@joanies6778
@joanies6778 6 месяцев назад
​@@shark50401 I think that would be my last hike with him. Too dangerous!
@UnicornSpoonie
@UnicornSpoonie 5 месяцев назад
@@shark50401that just sounds terrifying for you! I mean probably for the both of you, but to explore an unknown (to you guys at least, idk if others know about it lol, cave system is just silly when you don’t have gear or anything. I’m glad you both made it out okay! Best wishes! 💛
@UnicornSpoonie
@UnicornSpoonie 5 месяцев назад
Holy s**t! I would’ve been so terrified as a parent when you couldn’t find him!! Alas, I remember all too well of how teenagers don’t think anything will happen to them. Glad y’all got back together safe and sound!! Best wishes 💛
@tomhaskett5161
@tomhaskett5161 4 месяца назад
There was a film called Zabriskie Point in 1970. Nothing to do with this thread, just saying.
@herstoryanimated
@herstoryanimated 6 месяцев назад
Just had an in-depth read for the Keyhole seven. Canyoneering involves rappelling, cold water swimming and climbing up rocks and scree slopes. The main dangers are flash floods and rappelling accidents. Of the 7, 6 had no experience at all, particularly with rappelling, so did the morning course. They were experienced hikers, but novice canyoneers. The national parks service do not allow guides within parks (fir no good reason), so they were not allowed experienced help. Keyhole canyon is considered a beginner canyon, at 1200ft long short enough to escape quickly, and only 3 x 30ft rappells. It was raining that morning and they knew in advance there was a likelyhood of a storm and that the canyon could be closed. Dangers of flash floods was part of the course they took. Also this park seems to be in a hotspot for incidents (from national parks data), particularly for deaths during canyoneering. From other data in other canyons a flash flood miles away can produce an 11ft wall of water with no prior signs it's coming, headed by a debris wall of flotsam. The one survivor of 13 from this incident (the guide), literally had his clothes torn completely off, and was so battered and bruised it was "horrifying to look at". Possibly goes towards explaining why, despite having done much research beforehand, plus safety training that morning, it may have hit too quick. The only way to escape flash flood is to get to high ground - may not be possible in canyon. Photo from lunchtime shows apparently good weather. Much evidence they were closely following weather. The one member with previous experience, had completed keyhole before. Keyhole listed as 'dry' on weather website. Bad weather clouds obscured from view by the rock formation. Only around 30mins of weather actually visible. Weather warning would have auto triggered on their phones if they had had cell service. First storm actually misses the area, but a second one came. The group of canyoneers that overtook, was specifically warned about the weather and advised not to go out that day. The park policy is unless actually closed to issue permit, but can actively try to dissuade. This group were more experienced, so picked keyhole as a shorter route because of the weather. Keyhole considered the canyoneering equivalent of a 'lunchtime jog'. Keyhole has small drainage (i.e. not a large region that drains into it). The overtaking group was around 2 hours later in starting the canyon, but caught up at the first rappell - only a few hundred feet in. The seven in good spirits at this time, with most experienced person acting as leader, but looking a little more worn (compared to others). Overtaking group (often done in canyoneering if one group smaller and faster) notice that last person to rappell down set up for left hand descent instead of right (costing time). Also notice group using a slow, but safer, method of rappelling. No sign of bad weather at this time. This was the last chance area to leave canyon quickly. Last sighting was as last member of team descended the first rappell (no sign of issue at this time). Faster group using quicker rappell method already setup next rappell and came back to get other group members (of fast group) and headed off. It was around this time that storm 2 hit approx 15 miles away. 1.5 inch rainfall in 30 mins. So bad that cars were swept off the road and over newly formed waterfalls - people inside drowned. This storm reached Zion around 20mins later. Fast group (3 members total) at final rappell, hear thunder and leader, who is at bottom of rappell, gets first man (nearing bottom at time of thunder) to head off alone ahead, to get him out asap, whilst leader helps second (and final) person down. This is a 6ft deep swimming section, but only takes about 5 more mins before exit of canyon. They literally go flat out to exit, no longer even looking at weather to increase speed. Leader unsure if should leave rope to speed slower group, but his rope setup requires different technique to use, and he is concerned it may actually slow them, or be dangerous if used wrong. No pre fixed ropes as canyoneering principle (generally considered) about not leaving a trace behind. Nearly 5pm at this point and losing light (not sure if canyon height and storm shadow, vs time of day affecting). Fast group leader catches up to others he sent ahead, struggling with 6ft drop as light poor. Rains and hail starts suddenly and heavy, they are about half way between final rappell and exit. Worst sudden change leader has seen. Waterfalls and runoff begin, but they are now 50yards from exit and canyon widening, still some swimming through pools that are starting toturn back into river. By the time back to road the water is waist deep in culvert (goes under road) (carpark was 5 mins hike from start of canyon) and incredibly fast flowing. Group already really concerned for the seven, as they know they must be stuck in canyon. Immediately drive to rangers to alert them (one mile drive). Ranger tries to relay report but signal jammed as so many incidents in surrounding area (including landslides). Keep driving and find secind ranger after a couple of miles, notify him. He seems uninterested in taking details. Keep driving to main ranger station another couple miles. Details taken. Worth noting park opperates on a 'you take responsibility for yourself, for checking weather and ensuring your own safety' approach, hence issuing permits when storms approaching and not recommended to go out. Park rangers trying to essentially evacuate 10,000 people out of area - roads covered in mud/landslides/downed trees. Rain stops after less than 30mins. At this time a note left on car windshield asking seven to check in with rangers. No search started that day, search begins 14 hours after note, above canyon only (due to high water in canyon). Rangers do not search canyon until next day (weds, incident on mon). Keyhole back to being traversible for novice canyoneers by the following day (tues), with no sign of what had occurred the day before. Canyon supposed to be closed, but no signs out, and this novice group allegedly had no permit per rangers, so not aware of closure. Group says they got permit that morning. They discover body and contact rangers. Approx same time rangers discover first body outside canyon. 6/7 found by end of weds, final person found 5 miles away on thurs. So sad, they all sounded like wonderful people, and really good friends, who would have tried to help each other. I hope this gives a little more clarity, I tried to just write key points/facts, sorry it's so long. I just feel like honouring people's memories means knowing the full story. Edit for accuracy.
@JH-mp1jo
@JH-mp1jo 6 месяцев назад
Wow I had no idea about the chaos happening throughout the area of the storm, this was really detailed, thank you for posting it.
@kristymoore7052
@kristymoore7052 6 месяцев назад
Your summarization brought tears to my eyes. I remember the news and seeing Zion flooded, but had no idea this was also occurring.
@xtbro78
@xtbro78 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for the detailed account. It brings clarity and a timeline to this tragic event. There just was no escape for them that day.
@SilentThundersnow
@SilentThundersnow 6 месяцев назад
First: Actually there's a VERY good reason Zion's doesn't allow commercial guides. This is the wilderness. It's not regulated. They intend to keep it wild. People are responsible for themselves in the wilderness. It's freedom at its best. Commercialism would ruin that completely. It's gross to think of commercialization entering our wilderness. Money corrupts everything. How long until they knock things out of the way to make their treks easier/faster etc etc? Second: The cannoneers did not know it was going to rain. They checked the weather multiple times, and there was a 'possible' chance of rain. If they had any slot canyon experience, they wouldn't have gone with ANY chance of rain, but they thought it probably wouldn't with the blue skies overhead. The chance of rain changed to 'probable ' AFTER the entered the canyon and lost cell service. Just thought I'd add this to your otherwise great explanation.
@robertdaymouse3784
@robertdaymouse3784 6 месяцев назад
From the picture of the 7, it is clear a couple of those people, regardless or their experience, didn't have the physical capabilities to do such a hike. IMO, the lesson to be learned is to not drag yourself down with slow moving people while doing a potentially dangerous hike.
@escapenguin
@escapenguin 6 месяцев назад
Stopped near Death Valley when traveling cross country. It was so hot our shoes were sticking to the asphalt walking to a Sonic. There was absolutely nobody outside. I can't imagine hiking in that.
@southernizerwatching
@southernizerwatching 6 месяцев назад
Kyle, Thank you for always being respectful for those lost loved ones and toward their families while reporting the scenarios.
@jasminehoover5359
@jasminehoover5359 6 месяцев назад
I agree. You treat it in a way that if a loved one were to see your coverage, I don't think it would be offensive or hurtful. All of us who have a love for nature have things in common and can be respected. But, I also don't think it's victim shaming or wrong to talk about the mistakes made and lessons we can learn. I would think the families of the deceased would want others to learn and be safe, if anything could come out of their loved one's demise. It's the only good you can get out of a situation like that, to help it not happen to others, and I think it's a form of respect when done right, so don't second guess yourself or feel the need to apologize
@southernizerwatching
@southernizerwatching 6 месяцев назад
@@jasminehoover5359 Agree wholeheartedly. As outdoor enthusiast, we are always learning from others who've been there and are teaching us not to make the same decisions that they made, with respect and sympathy for the families. Hopefully we'll all learn from these trail stories. Much respect.
@kristymoore7052
@kristymoore7052 6 месяцев назад
I once watched a young father taking photos of a very squirmy baby/toddler on the shoulders of its Mom at the very EDGE of a sheer drop off at Crater Lake, Or. was convinced I would witness a tragedy…but not this time TG.
@arguchik
@arguchik 6 месяцев назад
People do amazingly stupid things that put their children's lives at risk. I used to live in Vermont, and I remember seeing a story in the Lincoln, VT town newspaper about a moose that was hanging around in town. (This town is not far from the Long Trail at Lincoln Gap, so I'm not sure why a visiting moose was such big news...) The article was warning people not to get too close to the moose, with a side note about a parent who had actually put their toddler onto the moose's back. If I recall correctly that ended OK, but still...WTF? Did they think the moose would give their kid a nice, gentle pony ride?
@tnit7554
@tnit7554 6 месяцев назад
​@@arguchikunbelievable. 🙄
@barbarapaine8054
@barbarapaine8054 6 месяцев назад
The story about Mr. Nadiri’s disappearance has reinforced the idea in my mind that my little Recco tag and my In Reach aren’t overkill, even though I also hike popular trails. Forest cover or thick chaparral might make it really hard to spot someone in trouble, even if they are only a few hundred feet away.
@rayosunshine
@rayosunshine 6 месяцев назад
Someone calling himself Flossy posted a picture of some Irish guy hiking on a cliff section near the Pacific Crest Trail just before a huge rock came crashing down and almost killed the guy. Then a dude whose trail name is Phoenix came forward and said he witnessed this with his own eyes. Later one ranger spoke with the man and all he said was "I hate hiking". 300K, happy new year!😀
@_MjG_
@_MjG_ 6 месяцев назад
Nice story. Maybe real, maybe not. Most people will blindly accept a story like yours as real. I've come across way too many lies in the YT comments, to be as naive.
@mtadams2009
@mtadams2009 6 месяцев назад
Good one, you told the story very well.
@rayosunshine
@rayosunshine 6 месяцев назад
Kyle's personal story Aug 23, 2022 video called "my near death experience" Guess newbies don't know about Kyle's friends Flossy and Brandon. And yes Kyle is indeed Irish, last name is O'Grady. I just made up the ranger part LOL.@@_MjG_
@Word187
@Word187 6 месяцев назад
@@_MjG_ Than you are not one of the OG viewers / subs because you don't know that story
@whatkjsaw4461
@whatkjsaw4461 6 месяцев назад
🤣 there’s a whole new episode PCT fun
@drewathetis5702
@drewathetis5702 6 месяцев назад
I used to work at a Power Plant in Page Arizona. August 1997, 11 hikers died in the Antelope Canyon(guide lived) due to a thunderstorm 15 miles away. Very, very tragic and caution to all who venture into these caverns that the surrounding weather needs to be considered.
@boowster9073
@boowster9073 6 месяцев назад
As someone who knew Steve Arthur, thank you for the respectful way you dealt with his tragic death. He was an amazing man who is missed by many.
@chronosferatu345
@chronosferatu345 6 месяцев назад
As a kid we were told to avoid the slot canyons. Especially so if there was any possibility of rain within fifty miles. Any dark or gray clouds in sight was a no go. Seems like every other year someone was getting lost, stuck, or losing their life. Not only is it easy to get lost in a slot canyon, water travels fast and collects in those canyons quickly. If water is coming in and you have vertical surfaces on either side it's likely already too late to get out safely. Also, following the water downstream, which is the usual for finding civilization, will get you lost and cornered in a slot canyon. Contrary to what is usually the way to safety and civilization when following water, in a slot canyon the way to civilization is upstream against the waters travel. Keyhole canyons can be beautiful, but can be dangerous even in the best of times. Falling rocks, large steps that are easy to descend but hard to climb, debris, dirty standing water of unknown depth, and dead critters can make for a bad time. It's on the individual to exercise good judgement, be informed, vigilant, cautious and be prepared.
@MuchAdoAboutADD
@MuchAdoAboutADD 6 месяцев назад
I've done Keyhole Canyon before. It was actually during my first canyoneering trip many years ago. The general rule of thumb my group follows is if there's ANY chance of rain in the area, we do not go into the canyons. I've seen how quickly flash floods can sweep through, even when it's bright and sunny and not a cloud in the sky. I can imagine being stuck in Keyhole during a flash flood, and it gives me chills. It's a narrow, dangerous canyon requiring several rappels and narrow swims to get out. I know it's so difficult to not go on a trip like that after so much planning, especially when you're right there, but it's really just not worth the risk, and there are so many amazing things to see in the area.
@scottwilly86
@scottwilly86 6 месяцев назад
yeah I've been ascending narrow ledges approaching my target destination and get hit with wind gusts that would knock you off your feet and think nah, not worth it. Immediately turn around and hike back. These videos always make those decisions easy
@always_b_natural703
@always_b_natural703 6 месяцев назад
We saw a flash flood while driving in late afternoon sunshine. On a hill to our right, suddenly a wall of water was coming down, out of nowhere. Thank goodness we saw it. As it wasn't very wide, my Dad was able to floor the gas peddle, and the water washed over the road behind us. It all happened so fast, and we were in a completely new area to us. All we could figure was that there must have been a very narrow crevice in the land to concentrate the water so much in one area. And it must have been raining heavily enough in the not too distant food hills to give enough water for this to happen in the first place. This happened about 50 yrs ago, and I still have vivid memories of it.
@nlwilson4892
@nlwilson4892 6 месяцев назад
Sometimes a flash flood goes a different route than the river, you can be trapped between the river and the "new river" with rising water.
@Tlyna1952
@Tlyna1952 3 месяца назад
Watching your videos gives me the willies because I was a long time hiker and backpacker, going out on my own, mainly in Michigan's upper peninsula forests but also the Smoky Mountains and some in Canada. Watching these videos makes me realize how many stupid chances I took when younger and I am surprised I made it to my present age of 71. Due to injuries I received when in a car accident I can no longer do those activities. I have great memories but also now ones of, "Good grief was I really that damned stupid?" I was very, very lucky, it is sad that these people were not. I was actually dumber in that I often took off for one of my trips on a whim and never told anybody and often didn't plan on where I was going, just made last minute decisions when traveling. The only ones I didn't make was never got close to cliff edges and never, ever hiked in extreme heat as I never tolerated it well back then.
@Ellie-rx3jt
@Ellie-rx3jt 6 месяцев назад
I don't think you can outrun the ashcloud from a volcano that close to you. Taking some cool photos for others to find after you're gone is probably as good a thing to do in your last moments as any.
@sarahpiaggio2693
@sarahpiaggio2693 6 месяцев назад
Yes, I expect he knew there was no point in running, but I can understand the thoughts of his wife too
@markehrlich7534
@markehrlich7534 5 месяцев назад
Pyroclastic volcanic🌋 ash flows move at hundreds of mph and are as hot as boiling water... He was dead instantly, no getting away from that one... RIP😢 .... A Reminder if you like hiking🥾 off trail in the desert 🏜️ Southwest. South American killer 🐝 bees have completely infiltrated Texas, Arizona, California, New Mexico... Look 👀 and listen👂for them. If you disturb a killer bee hive, their default response is to send hundreds of bees after you, the trespasser... You can't outrun them either
@Menstral
@Menstral 5 месяцев назад
​@@sarahpiaggio2693His wife sounds like she enjoyed the insurance payout
@littlebear274
@littlebear274 3 месяца назад
I wanted to know whether anyone else who was that close survived. I live in a country that's had its own share of eruptions and while luckily they're rarely fatal there have been a few incidents including a cruise that took passengers onto a volcanic island even though it was showing signs of erupting soon. It's not only the ash or lava itself that's dangerous, the air becomes very, very toxic and you can easily die from breathing those gases.
@janellemason9852
@janellemason9852 2 месяца назад
​@@Menstralwhat a fucked up thing to say
@elijahbickmore9191
@elijahbickmore9191 5 месяцев назад
Regarding extreme heat: I was working on an archaeological dig in the Middle East several years ago when temps regularly exceeded 100. We had to hike a mile up the mountain, where we then worked for hours digging and sifting. The hike wasn’t too hard, but the extreme heat took a toll, and even more so once we started working and it just got hotter. We always carried excess water and drank plenty, constructed shade structures over our dig sites, and wore proper clothing for the heat (including keffiyas/Bedouin head wraps), and we still dealt with a few heat exhaustion and heat stroke cases when temperatures passed 115° F one week. And that was well after we had fully acclimatized, and one of the cases was a Bedouin who had lived there his whole life. Heat is no joke. In the national parks where I live (desert), the vast majority of search and rescue calls are heat-related. When it comes to risks in the outdoors, it is one of the absolute deadliest killers-in large part because of how massively people underestimate its danger. And it really doesn’t help that once heat exhaustion/stroke kicks in, your cognitive functioning becomes seriously impaired. PLEASE DO NOT EVER UNDERESTIMATE THE HEAT.
@greggorsag9787
@greggorsag9787 6 месяцев назад
I live “back East” in Western PA, where there are no slot canyons . One night a few years ago I was driving home when an east-west line of heavy T-storms passed over the area. Pretty soon so many roads were flooded that I had to keep doubling back to keep going in any direction. Almost floated once and stopped at several deep “rivers” flowing across roads. I made it, but the real kicker was the aftermath. A gentle stream close to my home (where my kids had caught crayfish in happier times) turned into a raging river. When the authorities pulled out the cars that had gotten pulled into it (fortunately most had been empty/parked), they were literally pulverized. Total wrecks. No windows, every panel smashed, many parts gone. Terrifying proof of the power of flooding water. Sadly, at least one person got trapped and killed in that flood. I will never underestimate flash flooding again. 40% chance of rain is way too high in a setting like the one these folks (and the smaller group) ventured into. I wonder if the warnings were adequate, but maybe you have to see a flash flood in action to give it proper respect. You can get trapped before you know it, and then it’s like a suffocating freight train coming right at you from everywhere at once.
@trawlins396
@trawlins396 Месяц назад
I live in Western PA too. GO STEELERS!!
@RonaldSimkin
@RonaldSimkin 6 месяцев назад
4:28 My theeory is that since he hiked this place every day, and knew everything so well, but was never found near the trails, he must have decided to check out a "new" place and he went off the trail to explore something. So the tragic event that ended him was not near the trail. Now all this is why we CAN reasonably know what happened -- by deduction. I mean foul play is technically a possibility, but there is no reason to suspect this so it is reasonable to discard it.
@lauriesmith4575
@lauriesmith4575 5 месяцев назад
I grew up in the deserts of Nevada; it gets hot, from about April to October. We break triples in heat from July to September. It gets so hot over the summer, you don't go out during the day unless you *need* to, you *always* wear sunscreen, and you *always* have water or something cold to drink when out and about. Death Valley is 'split' between California and Nevada; I remember going to it with my mom and grandparents to see Scotty's Castle, and that was in the early, early 1990s, and I remember how much I absolutely hated the heat- and we went early, early in the day, before the heat got too unbearable. While I love the desert state I grew up in, I was raised with this mindset: even if you *think* you're fully prepared, the desert will *prove* just how unprepared you really are. She's a cruel mistress, so to speak, and when you step into her territory, don't expect her to play by your rules, because at the end of the day, it's not your rules your playing by, but hers. And she doesn't 'lose' so to speak, willingly.
@elainebmack
@elainebmack 3 месяца назад
I think you are doing a truly great service in posting these videos. A lot of boomers go hiking, influenced by their memories of their younger days, but older bodies simply don't deal with these exertions as well as they did when they were young. I'm not saying that one should never venture out and enjoy nature, but one must be better prepared and scale down expectations. Wisdom must prevail.
@jamie5092
@jamie5092 24 дня назад
the thought of coming across a set-up tripod and camera pointing at an empty cliff edge is so chilling
@collinmc90
@collinmc90 6 месяцев назад
Not sure about the trail cam in the first one but where I live in WA. Between the border patrol, forest service, hunters and conservation officers. there are a lot more cameras in the woods than people think. I found out recently that a lot of popular trail heads in WA have cameras somewhere along the access roads and on certain trails as well. There has been a couple crimes in WA solved in the last two years because of this.
@Operator8282
@Operator8282 6 месяцев назад
Eek! I guess no more hiking hanky-panky for me and the missus! At least without going way off trail...
@jlt131
@jlt131 6 месяцев назад
yeah parks will install them to see usage and things for knowing which parks to put more money into for upgrades too.
@collinmc90
@collinmc90 6 месяцев назад
@@Operator8282 lol. ya it’s crazy there is a lot less wilderness out there than you think. As a hunter I find signs of people ten fifteen miles off trail some times.
@RH-tv9hk
@RH-tv9hk 5 месяцев назад
Bigfoot has wised up! Hide and Seek Champion, as they say.
@Def_NotMe4
@Def_NotMe4 6 месяцев назад
I hike eagle mountain about 3 times a week, there is sooo many trails, many with steep drop offs. Everytime i go out there i take different trails and with the hope i come across a clue as to what happened to Mr. Naderi. Most of these trails lead into100's of kilometers of untamed wilderness, so if he had some sort of medical emergency (a stroke/head injury ect.) He may have just kept wandering. Hopefully one day he will be found to give the family peace 🤞
@lindawilson4625
@lindawilson4625 6 месяцев назад
All these stories are sad. Just people wanting to have fun, some trying to prove they still have "it", then there are the canyon deaths. Most people don't realize you can have a flash flood when the skies are completely clear. The storm that causes the propblem is often many miles away. Thanks for posting Kyle! Love your videos :-)
@michellelinder3721
@michellelinder3721 2 месяца назад
My brother went for a run in 90 degree heat. He was an experienced marathon runner, but was recovering from an injury and was not in top form, but still in excellent shape. He made it to the car, and according to witnesses, he suddenly stopped, got a strange look on his have, and collapsed. There was an ER nurse who witnessed it and started CPR and paramedics arrived within a few minutes, but they couldn’t resuscitate him. The coroner believed it was an arrhythmia either exacerbated or brought on by the heat, and he was dead before he hit the ground. Do yourself a favor and don’t do anything strenuous in the heat, and just stay quiet and as cool as possible. Animals do it. So do cultures that live in really hot climates. Go out at night if it is cool enough - I would often go on night hikes in the summer. The heat will kill you. It just ain’t worth it.
@roaldpage
@roaldpage 6 месяцев назад
When I was 15 my father and I took a trip down to the states, and one of the places we stopped was The Grand Canyon. About halfway down to the bottom I began to feel overheated and like I needed to get out of the sun. My father convinced me we should keep going, because there would likely be a shady place to rest somewhere once we reached the bottom. When we got to one of the lower rest areas we discovered that there was no sufficient place to cool off, and I was beginning to feel dizzy and dry mouthed almost blacking out from the heat. I decided we could not go further or the conditions were going to kill me so we turned around to head back up the canyon. The estimated walk time back up the trail was supposed to be an hour and a half from what I can remember reading on a nearby sign post, but I knew I would not make it that long in this intense sun, so something in me awoke forcing me not only to keep climbing, but to climb faster. Driven as if the grim reaper himself were chasing me I managed to make it back up in only 40 minutes. When we arrived at the top we went into the air conditioned visitors center, and I drank water like there was no tomorrow. The rest of the day felt cloudy and dizzy. No one thought to bring me to medical services, but to my luck I survived.
@roaldpage
@roaldpage 6 месяцев назад
Okay, so looking back on this I began to have some questions. Primarily; why wasn't I taken to medical services? Thinking back I guess there were two factors at play here. 1st is that when I powered up in less than half the estimated time I left my father behind, and rushed to the top as fast as I could in order to get myself to a cool place out of the sun, and to get more water which we had run out of around the time I began to experience heat/sunstroke symptoms. By the time my father had caught up to me I was already somewhat back from the brink. 2ndly as Canadians who weren't very well off the thought of American medical bills was likely extremely prohibitory, and the fact that I was starting to recover by that point likely led to a judgment call that it wasn't necessary to incur thousands of dollars in medical bills. I also have a correction to make. It turns out I was already 16 by this point, because it was September 15 2008, and my birthday is in May. I managed to work out the exact day by looking back at the dates on old photos from that trip. Unfortunately there don't seem to be any photos from that day. Either because no photos were taken, or because they were lost to time. The hike was actually fairly beautiful on the way down. We met a park ranger that told us about the wildlife of the Grand Canyon, and also warned us to avoid the squirrels, because they could be carrying the black plague. This seemed absurd to us, because the black plague was falsely claimed by my school to have disappeared after its run through Europe centuries ago. I now know it is all to common among squirrels and other small rodents across North America. Around the time that heatstroke developed we had reached a less steep area with a bunch of cacti before a grove, and it was at this little grove wooded area that I eventually decided we had to turn back, because the little shade that these trees provided wasn't enough, and my temperature just kept rising.
@davecarsley8773
@davecarsley8773 2 месяца назад
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@india1422
@india1422 День назад
Right. Let's keep going to the bottom. Which means we have double the effort to get back and you are already in trouble. I hope your father wasn't fast and loose with your life again
@abelis644
@abelis644 6 месяцев назад
Great video! The first gentleman lost here in British Columbia may have been attacked by a cougar. They roam right into town sometimes. And they are quiet and sneak up on their prey. One was in fact euthanized here in Victoria just a few weeks ago. They are very powerful hunters. One thing I noticed in the picture is that he didn't seem to be carrying a backpack or water bag. I find that very odd. EVERYONE carries backpack on hikes here. 👋🇨🇦🌠
@williamdiedrich3729
@williamdiedrich3729 6 месяцев назад
That was my thought also. Cougars are very numerous in Southern BC and on Vancouver Island. People often don't realize how little evidence is left after a person is killed by a wild carnivore.
@johnchedsey1306
@johnchedsey1306 6 месяцев назад
I'm an avid photographer but never take selfies of myself. This probably has saved my life without me even knowing it. Plus my tendency to watch videos like this keeps very cautious when I am out hiking or exploring with the camera.
@gloomjesussecretaccount
@gloomjesussecretaccount 6 месяцев назад
Its reassuring that you never take selfies of yourself. I would suggest that would be better however than taking selfies of someone else. The police would likely be called and you would certainly have to provide ID. Depending on the cop it could turn into a quagmire.
@sarahpiaggio2693
@sarahpiaggio2693 6 месяцев назад
@@gloomjesussecretaccount That's just mean elderly English teacher talk. I avoid taking group portraits of myself as that's even more dangerous
@1stDoNoHarm63
@1stDoNoHarm63 2 месяца назад
​@@gloomjesussecretaccount honestly, that was funny!😂😅😂
@sandy-quimsrus
@sandy-quimsrus 6 месяцев назад
I live in a hot Town in South Australia that gets bloody hot. First year I lived here had 17 days over 100, including night . The only thing you should be doing is sitting in the steam of air conditioner.
@JR-gp2zk
@JR-gp2zk 6 месяцев назад
So the first one, the hiker hiked the trail regularly. The trailhead is close to several houses. He had a photo taken by a random ownerless trail camera on the trail and his body was never found. Sounds like a good way to disappear.
@sierrashere6957
@sierrashere6957 6 месяцев назад
Heat stroke is nothing to mess around with, even mild heat stroke 😢
@judithnielsen8170
@judithnielsen8170 6 месяцев назад
September 2015 Athens. First day of land tour. There was a heat wave 109. At noon they took us to Acropolis and I “hiked” up to top with little shade. Bought water. When I came down had iced coffee then sat on rock and knew I was about to faint! For five minutes I prayed not to faint though now I was shivering. Made it to other tour member site and returned to hotel where I fell fully clothed onto bed. I had heat exhaustion but hydrated and recovered in several hours. Seconds away from heat stroke. At next excursion I stayed in air conditioned museum!
@tomjones2348
@tomjones2348 6 месяцев назад
I've been through Death Valley. It's one of the last places I'd want to go hiking. As for the Grand Canyon, I've been there 9 times, rafted it twice....it's beautiful, but dangerous. Read the book "Death in the Canyon" by Michael Ghighieri and Thomas M. Myers.
@EileenGallia
@EileenGallia 6 месяцев назад
I loved Over the Edge: Death in Grand Canyon. The authors were at the park signing when I got the book. I wiped out on my ass in front on them, which led to a funny moment and a related personalisation.
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 6 месяцев назад
You rafted it twice but you’re afraid to walk around😂 #america
@smilesfordays
@smilesfordays 6 месяцев назад
@@fastinradfordablethat’s… not what he said at all… you k?
@sandpiperr
@sandpiperr 6 месяцев назад
@@fastinradfordable They said they wouldn't want to hike Death Valley, which they've likely driven through since there is a road through it. Death Valley is a different place than the Grand Canyon, which is where they said they'd rafted twice. #readingcomprehension
@BonuxCouleur
@BonuxCouleur 6 месяцев назад
Can you drink the water of Grand Canyon safely or is it polluted with pesticide, nuclear waste and dead beavers?
@dtaylor10chuckufarle
@dtaylor10chuckufarle 6 месяцев назад
"Fools rush in where Angels fear to tread."
@SilentThundersnow
@SilentThundersnow 6 месяцев назад
Everyone around here knows that you never ever go into the slot canyons at Zion's if there's ANY chance of rain. The rain pours over the edge in huge waterfalls, and they fill up fast. Going with a large group also slows your progress. At the very least, take a satellite phone. I wonder if the rangers were clear enough to this group that a 40% chance of rain meant a 40% chance of death. However, the wilderness is not governed for good reason. We want it to remain wild, and people to choose their own risks. It's not an amusement park. We don't want it to be. So take the warnings seriously. There's nobody to babysit you out there.
@houseofsolomon2440
@houseofsolomon2440 6 месяцев назад
It's not shaming Steve. It's simply pointing out what to avoid. I had a teacher, used to say, 'No one is useless- they can always serve as a bad example...' In this case, Steve's decisions can help others avoid a preventable death.
@rrichardson53
@rrichardson53 6 месяцев назад
Excellent video. I’ve always been sensitive to heat- and now a senior, even more so. I hike early in the mornings during the summer and in forests. I have an extreme fear of heights. As a photographer I love shots near cliffs or drop offs but no photo is worth risking your life. Lol…I’m afraid to hike in narrow canyons or caves- nope- no thank you. I live near a volcano (Mt St Helens)…. I can’t imagine an eruption happening without days of warning? Those poor people- such tragic ways to die.
@ericlondon2663
@ericlondon2663 6 месяцев назад
When I thru-hiked the Appalachian Trail in 2008 I was eating my lunch in the Sawtooths of the Smokey Mountains near a huge crevasse. Across the chasm we saw a young woman in a blue coat get to the edge......stand briefly, then she took one last step over the edge. I was hours away from anyone. My cellphone didn't get signal where I was. We just watched..... helpless. Stunned in that "Did we just see that?" state....
@greenmountainhellhound6835
@greenmountainhellhound6835 6 месяцев назад
???😮 😢 very sad
@ericlondon2663
@ericlondon2663 6 месяцев назад
@@greenmountainhellhound6835 Yes it was. We never figured out who that was BTW. About 10 thru-hikers witnessed it.
@gabrielleperson4794
@gabrielleperson4794 5 месяцев назад
We hiked Coachella State Park one year. Had water in a bladder on my back, but it had a terrible taste from the new bladder and tube. Anyway, it got so bad for me that I had to run from shade to shade (Huge palm trees here and there.) I couldnt stand to have the sun on my skin. A family was coming in as we were going out. They had little children and NO water with them. We shared some of ours. Never hikinh in a desert again.
@jdearing46
@jdearing46 6 месяцев назад
For the first one who knows where Ali ended up. The area around where he was hiking is actually rugged. He could have fallen in the river in that area and if he did they will never find him. Who knows though because hikers have stumbled across the remains of missing hikers years later just by chance.
@papagigo1
@papagigo1 6 месяцев назад
If Oli Naderi hiked Eagle Mountain trails every day, than he knew the trail cam was there and it would snap a picture of him . I say he's alive and well somewhere.
@SilentThundersnow
@SilentThundersnow 6 месяцев назад
Over confidence because he hiked it so much, might've gotten him. It seemed harmless to go off trail, I'm guessing. So yeah, he might've gone off to the river. Makes sense.
@carlosnyc13
@carlosnyc13 6 месяцев назад
I’m afraid of heights so you will never catch me on the edge of a cliff or ledge. But once my shoe lace got wrapped around one of those hook looking things on a boot that you wrap your shoelace around. Well the left shoelace somehow wrapped itself on the right boot & I went stumbling for about 10 feet & almost fell off a cliff in Moab Utah. It was terrifying. It’s like it happened in slow motion & I couldn’t stop myself. People with froze. What can you expect from anyone. All they can do is stretch out their arms. My hands & knees were pretty banged up. I now tuck my shoe laces into my boot. I also double check my laces if I’m near a cliff or ledge.
@rebeccaperson8581
@rebeccaperson8581 6 месяцев назад
I tripped on my own boots when that exact thing happened to me 3x sending me crashing onto cement. Finally I hammered the hooks down flat.
@martharunstheworld
@martharunstheworld 6 месяцев назад
The only people who travel through Death Valley in the summer are the Badwater 135 athletes. And they have to train and qualify for that extremely difficult, prestigious race. No one else should be trying any hiking in those temperatures!
@georgemartin1498
@georgemartin1498 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Kyle! Always illuminating. Some years ago I read an article written by a very well known alpinist and world champion speed skier about the risk/consequence of exposure to avalanche in which he said there are three things you need to know in the event: you are fucked, fucked, fucked. Same thing with canyoneering.
@chriswhittington294
@chriswhittington294 6 месяцев назад
While hiking along the rim of the Grand Canyon with my husband & some friends, we witnessed a couple, who had placed their children in the branches of a DEAD TREE, right on the edge of a cliff, and taking photos! WTF! Unbelievable. 😧
@robynaddie2071
@robynaddie2071 6 месяцев назад
Yep! I saw people taking dangerous selfish at Grand Canyon too.
@vickiesims1600
@vickiesims1600 5 месяцев назад
your comment made my heart hurt when I read it. just horrible
@Funnyandsunnydays
@Funnyandsunnydays 2 месяца назад
Those people should be arrested for child endangerment
@trawlins396
@trawlins396 Месяц назад
​@@robynaddie2071that's their choice. Can't control everyone.
@davidocallaghan6361
@davidocallaghan6361 6 месяцев назад
I love the flow to Kyle's videos. He's turned his passion into a profession and his talent as a RU-vidr is blossoming by the video. Respect. You'll get that 1 million subscribers one day Kyle.
@1BJM
@1BJM 5 месяцев назад
I agree, and I'm not even a hiker!
@AJShiningThreads
@AJShiningThreads 6 месяцев назад
Re: Vancouver Eagle Mt- ive done it yeah, its super rugged, lots of places to slip and fall and if you fall in the river they won't find you! I'm only surprised more of us don't go missing on that trail! Last time I did it I slipped on the rocks and was lucky I didn't fall into the icy water!
@judistocker1811
@judistocker1811 6 месяцев назад
I hiked on a lot of hot days when I lived in the Phoenix area. Always started before sunrise and brought plenty of water. I wouldn’t even try Death Valley
@Funnyandsunnydays
@Funnyandsunnydays 2 месяца назад
I decided one day to walk to the store in 115 heat in Phoenix. I thought it's not that far, and it won't take long. That was a huge mistake. I was so hot and overheated on the way back. There was no shade. I had to take a long break by the time I reached some shade. I did make it home, but I regretted that decision and felt kinda sick, and I was very red I was overheated for sure. Don't play with the heat or you will get burned.
@maryellencasterline2595
@maryellencasterline2595 6 месяцев назад
I was saddened to hear about the hikers killed in Keyhole Canyon. I hiked and rappelled through that canyon with guides many years ago. There are areas where you can reach out touch both sides of the canyon walls; that go straight up. Other areas with waste deep water on days that don't get rain. Thank you for sharing all of the dangers when hiking.
@SilentThundersnow
@SilentThundersnow 6 месяцев назад
Commercial guides aren't allowed in the canyons in Zion's. Did you guys pay for the guides?
@jasminehoover5359
@jasminehoover5359 6 месяцев назад
I've never seen a few as a dozen hikers at Taft Point. I've only seen a literal line of people waiting to take pics there. It is so weird and hard to imagine no one saw what happened to that couple. Maybe now with the lottery system it's different. But I have seen people do the dumbest things there for their iconic pic, including a guy standing on his head and another one literally hanging off the point. Without social media, so few people would be so dumb. It's weird how that culture has changed behavior, and probably made people think it's way less dangerous than it is, too, because they've seen it so much that it seems normal
@tylerc1932
@tylerc1932 6 месяцев назад
The thing about Eagle mountain, although close to Vancouver, you are still very much deep in the wilderness, the rainforest surrounding Vancouver is thick and vast and very easy to disappear in. It is also home to a high population of grizzlies, black bear, cougars and wolves.
@ajstramaski6211
@ajstramaski6211 6 месяцев назад
I don’t understand why a gps or personal epirb isn’t considered basic hiking equipment these days.
@birdflipper
@birdflipper 6 месяцев назад
I say the same thing all the time. They're inexpensive and lightweight so there's no reason not to have one!
@bamflr
@bamflr 6 месяцев назад
​@@birdflipperGenuine question, but do you have recommendations for good cheap ones? Those I've seen all have subscriptions for use that are too costly for me, but I'd love to get one for my mother. She does a lot of hiking, and she's smart, but she's also the type of fearless that makes you worry.
@ericakolar1780
@ericakolar1780 6 месяцев назад
It really wouldn't have helped in any of these situations.
@Stktnc
@Stktnc 6 месяцев назад
I agree completely, but it doesn't help if you engage in suic*dal behavior.
@ajstramaski6211
@ajstramaski6211 6 месяцев назад
@@ericakolar1780 I think it could have helped in the first 2 stories. If a person got lost or hiked themselves into a dangerous situation when they realized, too late, they were in trouble and needed emergency assistance.
@twistoffate4791
@twistoffate4791 6 месяцев назад
If I had been the person who noticed Steve Curry and the poor condition he was in, then I would've thought his mind would not necessarily be in good shape, either. Personally, I would've wanted to call for emergency assistance. But then again, Kyle said helicopters weren't a possibility due to the condition of the air, which is new to me. I feel for Curry's family.
@Operator8282
@Operator8282 6 месяцев назад
Hot air and/or high elevation are weather that are difficult for helicopters As Kyle said, the air can be just too thin for a helicopter not set up for those operations. Most military helicopters are set up for these operations, but it may be too expensive for civilian or regular government entities to set up their helicopters this way.
@sandpiperr
@sandpiperr 6 месяцев назад
So you're saying you would have what? Kidnapped him? Blaming the reporters who took the picture is stupid because, much like how his wife couldn't truly stop him from going, they couldn't force him to leave if he refused.
@SilentThundersnow
@SilentThundersnow 6 месяцев назад
Adults should be allowed to assess and choose their risks. If we take those rights away, we take away their freedom. Death is hard to accept as payment for freedom, but it's the only way we can preserve our independence and autonomy. If other people are making dangerous decisions for us, that's different. It should be regulated. But not our choices for ourselves. I think the reporter did assess that he seemed in his right mind, so there was really nothing anyone could or should do. But I don't think your idea is stupid, if they sent someone out to offer him help, he might've taken it. So I probably would've asked them for a wellness check too.
@Elizabeth-rq1vi
@Elizabeth-rq1vi 6 месяцев назад
They never said anything about the reporter, just that they “would’ve wanted to call for emergency assistance”. It was about what THEY would want to do!
@izzatihassan1475
@izzatihassan1475 6 месяцев назад
For the last story, I remember something that were taught to us and it's that you shouldn't hike near rivers if it rained the night before. There is a huge chance of flash flooding even if the weather is good on the day of the hike.
@nlwilson4892
@nlwilson4892 6 месяцев назад
It can take several days for the water to rise, it just depends on the catchment. Even here in Cumbria, with rivers maybe 40 miles long it can take a couple of days. You have to know how long it takes and monitor the weather a few days before. Fortunately, England has a web site where you can look at river levels real time and graphs for the past year or so.
@cristinesomerville4522
@cristinesomerville4522 6 месяцев назад
My heart truly breaks for the 7 hikers who died in the flash flood. Wow the loss of 7 lives is a tragedy of unimaginable magnitude… like im literally speechless… how absolutely horrible… my deepest and most truly heartfelt condolences to all of their family members and friends…
@adamantium4797
@adamantium4797 6 месяцев назад
Fascinating also what life throws at them after they took their last picture smiling together. Feeling alive and then they die.
@jeffreycarman2185
@jeffreycarman2185 6 месяцев назад
12:52 Years ago I climbed Teewinot Mountain (12,in Grand Teton National Park. It’s a fairly technical mountain and most people rope up for at least a couple of sections of class-5 climbing. When I got to the summit the two people I was climbing with both posed for pictures standing on the summit -which is a pinnacle about 2 feet across that is not flat on top and has more than 3,000 feet of direct exposure. I was like “no thanks” and they thought it was because I’m afraid of heights. I have a healthy fear of heights, to be sure, but I didn’t want to because I didn’t think the photo op was worth that kind of risk. Standing on an uneven rock like that, one gust of wind, one tiny slip-up for one split second, would plummet to their death, for what? A photo. I just love being there, and the journey to get there. I am not overly adverse to risk, if the reward is great and the risk is relatively low. But if the only reward is a cool photo, and the risk is a decent probability of certain death… and that’s just not worth it for me.
@herstoryanimated
@herstoryanimated 6 месяцев назад
With Ali Naderi he literally had no equipment, no backpack, no water etc. It would only have taken a small injury to completely incapacitate him with no way of contacting help. Very sad, whatever happened.
@DavidNolan-fi8gi
@DavidNolan-fi8gi 6 месяцев назад
Who took the photo 🤔
@herstoryanimated
@herstoryanimated 6 месяцев назад
@@DavidNolan-fi8gi trail camera
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 6 месяцев назад
@@herstoryanimated Yes but who that’s creepy af
@sandpiperr
@sandpiperr 6 месяцев назад
@@fastinradfordable It could have been the park service for all you know! It's a trail camera. They're very common. Why are are you acting like it's equivalent to a peeping tom putting a camera in the changing room?
@papagigo1
@papagigo1 6 месяцев назад
If Oli Naderi hiked Eagle Mountain trails every day, than he knew the trail cam was there and it would snap a picture of him . I say he's alive and well somewhere.
@dude3825
@dude3825 6 месяцев назад
That last pic of the volcano eruption is epic dude. RIP to my guy,
@trawlins396
@trawlins396 Месяц назад
That was a great pic..
@randallminchew6780
@randallminchew6780 6 месяцев назад
I remember how hard it rained in Zion that day. We had floods all over the canyon that day. The flooding also killed some other people in a near by town.
@p1ural391
@p1ural391 5 месяцев назад
I hike Eagle Mountain in Golden Ears provincial park many times, but it is still easy to get lost because you weren't paying attention to the trail markers. There was a similar incident in August 2023 where a 17-year-old girl got lost on the same trail, but she found her back to the trail head after 2 days and nights in the forest.
@ocalafl954
@ocalafl954 6 месяцев назад
Do you wonder if sometimes people have a death wish? Maybe they think it would be a good way to go. I don't know
@anna9072
@anna9072 6 месяцев назад
On the Mt Ontake segment - I understand the wife’s sentiments, but fleeing would not have saved the photographer. He probably knew as soon as he saw the eruption that his life could be measured in minutes, at best, and he continued to record the event as long as he could. RIP.
@troutfisher7182
@troutfisher7182 6 месяцев назад
There've been so many canyoneering flooding mishaps in Zion, Antelope canyon in Az also, highly experienced people too. There's a great RU-vid of some experienced guides who almost didn't make it, and they go into what they did wrong, and what they did to save themselves when they heard the water coming
@youtubeuser206
@youtubeuser206 6 месяцев назад
Always bring bear spray when hiking
@pumpkinfield100
@pumpkinfield100 6 месяцев назад
And don’t forget your luck, you might need it more than spray
@RichardPoogerman
@RichardPoogerman 6 месяцев назад
And a dog
@mandywalkden-brown7250
@mandywalkden-brown7250 6 месяцев назад
Umm, not in Australia, koala bears aren’t much to worry about unless their bladders are full.
@pumpkinfield100
@pumpkinfield100 6 месяцев назад
@@mandywalkden-brown7250 Koalas are so cute.. Australia needs something like that to balance crocodiles
@paulinav.richards8787
@paulinav.richards8787 6 месяцев назад
Actually, about the hikers in the canyon, unfortunately, there was a formal warning about a high chance of flash flooding. Actually, it was a level under the warning of highest chance of flash flooding. 😢 Apparently, it didn't seem that way, the sky got dark very fast and heavy rain started pouring in a matter of seconds. So sad. 😓
@SilentThundersnow
@SilentThundersnow 6 месяцев назад
When they went in, it was one lower, like 'Possible' and the rangers moved it to the highest AFTER they went in, to 'Probable.' I think those were the designations, but yeah, they definitely went in at not the highest warning level. But even a 'Possible' risk shouldn't be undertaken in the slots. They just weren't familiar with how deadly ANY rain would be, I guess. Like I said, there's nobody to babysit you in the wilderness. You'd better do your homework before going.
@suzannenichols6900
@suzannenichols6900 6 месяцев назад
That's how flash floods kill people in Arizona pretty commonly. Kids partying on the ledge and the water comes out of (seemingly) nowhere. No time to get out of the way.
@fretjebobo
@fretjebobo 6 месяцев назад
Love the stories and this channel. Would you consider throwing the metric system on screen when talking about distances and temperatures? I imagine all your international fans will appreciate it. Greetings from The Netherlands
@mari4sol
@mari4sol 6 месяцев назад
very great Idea
@klhaldane
@klhaldane 6 месяцев назад
The lesson I would take from the canyoning story is that if the weather is dubious enough that you're texting for updates, call it off and wait for a better outlook. Remember once you start you're committed through to the end.
@susanKWithAnE
@susanKWithAnE 6 месяцев назад
On the LA hiker in Death Valley, he probably figured he was used to the heat. But SoCal is not hot. It’s generally in the low to mid 90s in the summer. Central and NorCal regularly tops 100+ all summer. Hiking in that heat is very ill considered. Hiking in Death Valley in the summer is a terrible idea. Maybe if you see a hiker in this shape, rather than taking pictures, call the rangers.
@Funnyandsunnydays
@Funnyandsunnydays 2 месяца назад
You never get used to the heat 🥵 🔥 lived in phoenix while you learn to tolerate it, you don't get used to it. You adapt, and you stay inside during the day.
@clayhackney3514
@clayhackney3514 6 месяцев назад
I left a piece of chicken on a cutting board in death valley while setting up the stove and when I turned back around it had become a desiccated piece of cooked rubber, never seen anything like it.
@chrissymcal3146
@chrissymcal3146 6 месяцев назад
If hiking in a canyon check the weather in all surrounding areas as well as the immediate area
@jimhenderson387
@jimhenderson387 6 месяцев назад
Fascinating and sad stories, but another excellent job of telling those stories, Kyle.
@daniellejones2411
@daniellejones2411 6 месяцев назад
Great content once again. I appreciate the time & energy you put into all the research & production. Really well done.
@crzyking6821
@crzyking6821 6 месяцев назад
Ill leave this One Piece of advice. IF your planning to Treck a SLOT CANYON hike Make ABSOLUTELY SURE of the weather Forcast. That 3 days Before and 3 Days Prior. If rain falls 3 days prior to your Canyon Slot Canyon Hike it could Get You Immediately if a couple days after it Could Hit that Day. Slot Canyon hiking NEEDS A CLEAT weather pattern before and after.
@seewobble7048
@seewobble7048 6 месяцев назад
"3 days before and 3 days prior" mean the same thing.
@soulsharts
@soulsharts 6 месяцев назад
Hiking in high heat is no joke. 2 summers ago I planned around a 7 mile walk in 103F heat and thought I'd be fine because I had my Camelbak which holds 2liters, I think, of which I fill with both ice and water. I must have been a third of the way before I started being worried because I was drinking my water quite frequently and splashing a little on my hand to toss on my head and neck. Thankfully I knew of a shortcut back home that cut 1.5 miles off my walk. I ran out of water with around 1.5 miles left to go. The last like half mile I was starting to feel faint, beginning signs of overheating. It wasn't sooooo dramatic, my only point is that any exercise when it's really hot out can be quite dangerous.
@culturebreath369
@culturebreath369 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for uploading. I needed this! 😊
@kellyc6380
@kellyc6380 6 месяцев назад
Loving your videos ❤️ prayers for the families of those who are no longer walking the earth 🙏
@craigd1275
@craigd1275 6 месяцев назад
2:35 Why was a camera was placed on a hiking trail? Because animals also use the same trails as humans or vice versa. If it wasnt a National Park, it could be a game hunters camera.
@longrider42
@longrider42 6 месяцев назад
I've ridden my bike in 90 to 100 degree weather. Its not fun either. At least I was able to get to a store to buy Gatorade. Any ways, I will never hike in extreme hot weather.
@DWNY358
@DWNY358 6 месяцев назад
An incident similar to the couple falling to their death from a cliff, just happened last week in Minnewaska State Park in NYS.
@trilobite8589
@trilobite8589 6 месяцев назад
As a Utahn, I think the takeaway from the tragic keyhole canyon incident is to take possible weather warnings very seriously when entering a canyon. Flash Floods are no joke. When I plan my adventures in canyons in southern Utah, I always make a back up plan for a hike that doesn't involve going into a canyon, or flash flood danger zone. that way if there is a chance of rain in the area that day you don't feel compelled to take the risk because you don't want to waste your trip.
@chrisran24
@chrisran24 6 месяцев назад
Canyoneering in Zion and similar areas, I never canyoneer with a chance of rain, though I watch radar and better weather maps than they had. I also have the advantage of hearing their story, so I guess you could say they’ve helped keep me safe learning from what happened to them. We often make mistakes learning something relatively new, but they had very unlucky circumstances mixed with the fact that they were just starting, they were a large group, and they likely weren’t rushing through the beginning.
@CraigBaughan-mg3hf
@CraigBaughan-mg3hf 6 месяцев назад
The wilderness is where bragging rights go to die.
@kurthall1562
@kurthall1562 6 месяцев назад
my brother from another mother
@adamantium4797
@adamantium4797 6 месяцев назад
Yes in the wilderness is where u see life's real rules, completely different from the materialistic society and greed ppl are use too
@CraigBaughan-mg3hf
@CraigBaughan-mg3hf 6 месяцев назад
Wilderness costs little, except for bail bond and emergency room visits. @@adamantium4797
@Errcyco
@Errcyco 6 месяцев назад
couldn't have posted at a better time thanks my guy!
@sterling8298
@sterling8298 6 месяцев назад
I once swung from a tree branch that stuck out over a TALL cliff just to get a picture. And then I got down, and I said OK, I'm never doing that again.😊
@paulinav.richards8787
@paulinav.richards8787 6 месяцев назад
This summer, 2023, Death Valley broke its own heat record!
@jeevjagostudios
@jeevjagostudios 6 месяцев назад
Kyle, I hate being "that guy" but when you flashed your subscriber goal number near the end of the video it was 1,00,000 --- missing a zero to make it a million. If 100,000 is your goal then you've already almost tripled it! 🤠
@joetaylor8569
@joetaylor8569 6 месяцев назад
The Utah one , they probably didn’t get a huge enough warning as I’ve never hiked this , I’m a hiker, and this place terrified me. When they are warned ,” it rains “ they load it with the terror feeling of the flash flood and obviously death from getting caught in it. If you look on RU-vid this area flash flood you can see videos of panic retreats to escape the hike . Please don’t hike at all if they say it’s going to rain . It’s a raging rising river . Not , it’s going to rain “
@guenthergoller815
@guenthergoller815 3 месяца назад
One of the reasons I watch your vids. is your excellent pronunciation, wich enables me to follow the story without subtitles. Something not very common for youtubers. 10Q, Kyle!
@whollymary7406
@whollymary7406 6 месяцев назад
Yeah but when someone is dehydrated and had heat stroke you get them in from the heat into a shaded area or air conditioned convenience store give them fluids with Electrolytes intravenously of course stripping there cloths off first take off hats shoes sock shirts unbutton and un zip and use an ice pack around his neck armpits or growing area and try to cool the body down sometimes by bathing it in water while you administer CPR
@snowleopard0412
@snowleopard0412 6 месяцев назад
...there was an old saying disrepectful perhaps to the limeys ...about the mid - day sun ...?
@DRoche911
@DRoche911 6 месяцев назад
Wow, these are very sad and tragic stories. Thanks for bringing them to us Kyle. I find the older I got the less likely I am to put myself in dangerous situations The take away from me on any of these is to be smart and always error on the side of caution.
@ZebaKnight
@ZebaKnight 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for all of your videos. I'm sure you have saved lives by telling the stories of people who, for one reason or another, lost theirs.