5 of the Most Unprepared Pitches We've Seen in the Den | Dragons’ Den 

Dude this guy is brilliant and is idea is cool

he has the spirit

He’s not exactly wrong xD

@@AngloSaxonWheatFarmer exactly

Does eating cumin help?

Someone needs to cut that into a 10 hour edit

@@MrSkinnyWhale CAN U IMAGINE HAHA😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Her ionic ear was off.

@@Urubu_de_terno Bwahahahaha I just saw coffeezilla's video about that lol!

@@Key_1111 that guy nowadays is probably plotting to take over the world or went back to his home planet.

Yeah but she should have gotten a clue after a couple of seconds of awkward silence

She's completely useless...and then starts crying. Amazing for sure

​@@Lb57e8xb Well aren't you a tough guy. I am sure you would start bawling on that situation

@@pope4510 based off what? Did I touch a nerve? Sorry I upset you :(

@@Lb57e8xb Based off the fact that you write like a 14 year old

I’m surprised none of them realised that gluing extensions in does not take hours 😩😂😂maybe an hour tops

Theo foetus

@@daviddowns2317 theo de fetus

@@jasond869 man really sounds like some ancient pharaoh

What's funny about it tho?

That's British people

@@BigYoshi826 Can confirm, as a Brit

@@BigYoshi826 can also confirm, as a Brit

@@BigYoshi826 Can also confirm, as i am also a Brit

ENRAGED BRITS GOT INTO A FURIOUS COMMENT SECTION

I’m laughing so hard😂😂

She saw the balance sheets on the balance beds

@Reginal...LOL!! You win! 😃😃

@@reginalram9050 dude i spilt my coffee laughing

The cut to Theo's face was priceless 😂

@Neo Anderson I disagree. He does not hate the other sharks, and want them to lose money.... how can you say such an awful thing about him (jealousy?) ?

As someone who has lived in the country most of my life that is a brilliant idea. I know so many ppl that sell wood and that would hurry things up and save their backs so much pain.

Wasn’t a bad product they just couldn’t explain the market

Just goes to show that if you have a dreadful personality you often struggle to get anywhere at first. They got lucky. Their attitude is dreadful

@@WETiLAMBY city slicker dragons don’t take country bumpkin loggers seriously

@@lemonsandaztecs3072 there was some of that but also they were just unprepared and kind of rude like I understand why they wouldn't work with him

"We invented this contraption to make work easier and faster out in the prison labor yard - er....I mean, for other lumber workers...yes..."

😂

Fr, I only clicked on this cause I thought it was inmates selling something for the joint lol

we need some money to move to Tahiti, HAVE SOME GOD DAMN FAITH

😄👍 super mouthy one, ship to The Island of Clueless Gits

They do

Very good point!

Most of the deals made on camera don’t even fall through when the actual negotiations happen behind closed doors. So at the very least, yeah free marketing is most of these guys’ objective.

Why don't they write the numbers in a paper and read it out loud.!!

@@pallabmahata5938 that's not allowed on the show; it would be a boring experience for the viewers

Is almost as if some of them had never watched the show before!

I see so few applicants with paperwork it makes me think they are not allowed to have the books in front of them

However, you're not selling a product to them, you're selling a business

@@mcduck5 that’s actually correct. They’re not allowed to do that.

Wayne does painting by numbers and calls it art

So you would invest in her ? 😂

@@samcoppock6469 why not? its working.

First one was painful, how can you ask for an investment in your business and you don’t know what a balance sheet is 🤣

Nah ...by far the most terrible pitch I've ever seen.

@@Viteaification her company dissolved in 2018 mate and she herself resigned in 2013, not long after this episode aired.

Hahahahaha

Thats a buddy cop movie I'd watch

This comment 😂

Good looks absolutely, but charm? I'll give you Hillary, though. God, I love that woman. What I wouldn't give to get into all kinds of shenanigans with her 😂

ABSOLUTELY!!!

Not even 20 minutes of that footage

😂😂😂

We could get an hour complication of Jenny just saying "I'm out" though

I would rather like a creepy pasta about the myth of Jenny's portfolio

30mins might work....might lol

if she has all these good numbers coming out, yet doesn't know what the wages or expense is.

Not doing too well unfortunately resigned in 2013 and company dissolved in 2018

@@deepz94 That just means her business is doing badly, don't know what she personally is doing.

I feel like Theo's comments were unwarranted and frankly rude.

She’s now waging a war and mass genocide in Congo, but good to know you’re wishing her well.

He had numbers on his hand!

He invested entirely in charisma.

I think it’s a good idea. You could print it up as an accent wall, use it on your business, personalized...

@@chrisrandall2710 You could easily just get a large custom wall decal with anything you want, and have it be personalized, rather than a generic "edgy" dime a dozen fake graffiti sticker.

Really? You were dying?? OK.

@@WobblesandBean What may be edgy for you, others might like? That's why there are commissions from certain artists who make grffiti work. If you want it personalised, you need to pay the actual artist.

@@WobblesandBean graffiti is an art form and some artists had their work on museums, with that being said I personally don't see this as a viable business idea but graffiti itself is an art form don't get it twisted.

😂😂😂 good one man.

Underrated

Brian's figures.

Jenny: "I'm out."

That would not be the worst buisness model on this show, somehow.

The company eventually failed!

@@janeclarkson8471 how do you know

@@TA-qo2nv How do I know what? I’ve not indicated any particular knowledge!

Oh yes, I see now! I enquired on the internet. You can view anyone’s business. Detailed you pay a fee but its worth, asset’s or ceased trading, is there to see. My sons small business is there. It should be!

@@janeclarkson8471 no one cares about your sons business. He asked a simple question in how do you know that bees business failed, you answered with a more complex answer then necessary then brought in Irrelevant external factors. Shmuck

They’re ticking over … not millionaires … but lovely to see they’re still going

Exactly. And would it hurt them to bring in a traditional sawhorse to demonstrate to the sharks how it works and why their version is better? They seemingly went in expecting the sharks to be knowledgeable of their very specialized trade.

@@riffdex Yeah, with people like the dragons you gotta treat it like you're talking to baby, cause most of the time there's scarcely little difference lol

@@FilthyNobeard not necessarily because they're babies, a lot of money is being exchanged here and for that they need as much proof as possible to show that your product and your business is good.

@@riffdex the sharks? Sort it out Yankee!

Just goes to show, eh?

What? If you mean the graffiti guy, he looked incredibly friendly. Those prison jumpsuit-wearing lumberjacks looked incredibly mean, and they were.

@albert fish you're a wrongun

@albert fish nah he just looks the machinist

Because he has tattoos and a bears? He looks so friendly

Then you nor he is worthy of being a successful business man/women

Ben who tf are you to decide that? 😂😂 how ridiculous

@@hommefataltaemin I didn't decide it, every dragon in that den would agree with me. If you don't know your own rough numbers about your own business then how can you expect an investor to invest in you?

@@benardo01 personally I would be incredibly anxious in that situation so the numbers would just leave my head

@@benardo01 it’s not about memorising your numbers. It’s about having worked them out and quoting them correctly.

How on earth did she win thru?

She doesn’t know what deal she made.

How do we know she made money? She doesn’t know. She was making up numbers.

@@kevinprior3549 she didn't. After the filming of the episode, the deal fell through. That happens most of the time a deal is made on this show, it falls through afterwards once the Dragon can actually vet the business properly and go through the numbers in detail.

She looked so embarrassed 😢

Right i was like you’re not..?

Hhahahahhaa fart

Hhahahahhaa fart

Hello my fellow ducc

She was meaning that she hasn't come from a place of accidental turnover and profit, so it was an insult to Deborah when the lady said that she she understands where Deborah is coming from, because Deborah never came from there.

Bollocks! 😂

Alright yessir!

Nah you’re taking the Michael mate

Where are you from?

@@EggBoxingFactoryManager I'm from the United States.

Fr I’d love to see it

Search up trunki or the tangle teezer, they were both rejected but have succeeded beyond expectations

they actually succeeded. international now

But he wouldn't put a slate on their roof for a tenner 😂

I know, right? Seriously, what a deluded muppet. I’m going to Google the company’s status now, as “actually succeeded” is a very vague term. I’ll be amazed if they are truly highly valued. As @Oteelia rightly said, it was THEY (well, the ‘older’ pitcher, mainly, to use his own term) who got turned down. 😂👍

@@angelogandolfo4174 firstly the term would be 'succeeded' not 'actually succeeded'. if you're going to criticise others for vagueness maybe don't use terms such as 'highly valued' are they the size of amazon? No obviously not but they have gone from a small scale compony of two too selling internationally which is a successful transition in many peoples eyes.

@@nathanrothwell9924 Wow. Who’s a tad prickly and insecure? First up, please don’t comment on my writing skills, when your syntax is atrocious. You say I should have written “succeeded “, and not “actually succeeded”. Did you not see that I purposely put the two words in quotation marks, because I was referencing YOUR post, where YOU incorrectly wrote “actually succeeded “? The same wording you are now claiming I used incorrectly?? And, second, your post is incredibly vague. I merely highlighted this, and expressed an interest in looking into things further. I was not criticising your post. The phrase “People Who Live in Glasshouses” comes to mind. Time to grow up and thicken your skin a bit, me thinks.

same haaa

Thought I was the only one 🤣

Ffs 🤣

Underrated comment

It's pronounced tape-ass

The dynamic between the two throughout the show has always been so great.

Aah brilliant..Duncan Loved that!!!!.😅😅😀

time stamp on this?

@@Merosity 32:11

Duncan is 🤪

Ahe resigned from the company in 2013

That's a shame :/

The deal fell through and her company folded

😂😂😂😂 I had the same expression because even through the screen I felt bad for laughing

Isn't each episode an hour long?

@@bigsteve1664 idk it doesn’t air in the states so I only consume it in these 5-10 min clips on YT

No….. 60 minutes 🤤

this triggereds my drug addicitonon

@@YourIQDoesntMeanShitToMe that’s tuff

Right??

But his business is doing very well today.

He’s just a blue collar guy.. gotta joke around with them a bit

@@AbhijithSprk Is it? Have you read the accounts or have you just read some random press releases on Google? 40K in Assets and 300k in liabilities doesn't look healthy.

ok then....

Same 🤣🤣🤣

Duncan’s reaction… priceless

Timestamp?

@@jerryjames7212 32:11

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂

😂😂😂🤦🏽‍♀️he really thought he did something with that comment.. Bless his heart

😂😂😂😂🤣

"He's not doing amazing" 🤔

@@hmq9052 LOL I was gonna say

So weird I live near the custard factory

Now you mean??

@@hmq9052 *now doing amazing I guess he meant

Started from the bottom, and now we're hair.

😂😂😂😂😂

@@SpencerGD love this 😂😂😂😂

😅

🤣🤣🤣 💀

Unfortunately the investment didn't go through and the business has ceased trading

She was a bit of an air head who got lucky initially but didn’t have the IQ to flourish the business and therefore it floundered. Blunt but true.

Shes clueless.

@@captainhindsight8779 she was an extension head.

She was clueless. I got the feeling she opened her businesses on somebody else's dime.

I think the point is that a good business person cares tremendously about the numbers, if they don't know the numbers or have even a rough idea of what it looks like off the top of their head, then that means the business is getting away from them and they're not being professional and making the necessary financial calculations to actually make the business work and not lose a ton of money. You can't run a successful business without having an idea of how much you're spending, how much you're making, etc etc, it's very telling to the state of the business if the owners don't even know the state of the most important thing in the business: how much money is being made or lost and what the projected future of the business is.

I already knew she was gonna offer her the deal

she looks like a scary monster

she sounds like she smokes a pack a day to be entirely honest

@@huskiehuskerson5300 she has the demeanour of a supervillain 😂

@@message2612 cruella deville 😂

"It's a big number" 😂

Guidance... is not worth 40% of an already successful business. Terrible decision. It made me sad for her.

@@Tesla_Death_Ray she wasn't very smart and it would've eventually went downhill with how she's running it

@@fauxwolf whatever she was doing was working

@@Tesla_Death_Ray yes but she was also being very irresponsible with how she ran it I'm not saying she's dumb becuase the company isn't working but becuase she doesn't know how to run a successful company I've seen many people with actually successfully companies ruin it themselves by making poor decisions and cutting off contact with people who can help them like I said it's a big cut but atleast they know what direction to take her company

@@fauxwolf obviously she can get solid business advice without losing half the company. These dragons aren't some Promethean gods dispensing mystical market secrets.

true northener

But don't make her foot itch!

my fav among sarah, duncan and tej

I adore her!

​@@fefeeffefeff8237 yep true softies

Lol it was an awkward moment....

Hahaha. Come on, I only have limited time for lunch, lady.

@@Anna.T. lol

Lmaoooo

Totally agree - the Australians also have (or had) a Shark Tank and I suspect they copied the American model rather than the UK. The UK Dragon's Den is the only one worth watching - slick / quick witted / ruthless dragons (as they should be) ... and the entrepreneurs come from all over the world.

I heard that, but then I thought she must said Poland. Rewind that and yeah, Holland and Netherlands.

Technically Holland and The Netherlands are actually different, but I agree I suspect it was an error!

I just got to that part lol. Still, that looks like a really good product, I wouldn't mind having one of those.

The Netherlands and Holland are two different things. Calling the Netherlands "Holland" is like calling the entirety of the US just "California". Holland is just one province in the Netherlands, but there are other provinces.

​@@duffman18 Wrong. There's North-Holland and South-Holland. Holland isn't a province. Why do ignorant people speak with so much confidence?

nice

She actually said "balanced" sheet lol

"I have seen them before.... The balance sheets" 🤣

@@akionabus1239 😂😂

@@akionabus1239 purple Aki on a bus?

It's a new type of Yoga Mat

I’ve seen them before

Yo thanks for the timestamps man :)

Pretty privilege, let's be honest no businessman would give her the time of day if she wasn't a hottie.

I heard her business failed

@@jokedejojo Yeah if it was a guy they would all be shouting at him, also tbf she did have 100k profit and a LOT of turnover and because she doesn't understand her costs, with proper structure and cost reduction that profit would grow a lot.

@@gordonramsdalethat’s assuming her numbers were even right. If she doesn’t know what she’s paying or the profit on the third place then I question her other numbers

The „balance sheet? What is balance sheet?“ killed me😂😂😂😂😂😂

If it's there business they should know the costs of everything.

They do know their numbers - they just don't know them memorised by heart..... It's crazy how they aren't allowed to have a notepad with their numbers written down (especially when the Dragons themselves do) - and the entrepreneurs are expected to just stand there with nothing - expecting to have literally every number for every question completely memorised.

A lot of people know how to provide the product, but don't understand business accounting. I didn't when I started my engineering firm (although I did understand the basics of accounting), and struggled when dealing with the banks/creditors to understand what they wanted and why. Also, my business model doesn't fit what they are used to, because equipment sales are just a small part of the business, and because most of it is milestone billing, monthly forecasts and balance sheets aren't really meaningful.

@@NuttyJun good point. Some people aren't good at remembering numbers. And in the real world, people would be able to bring those numbers with them.

@@NuttyJun To be fair, I don't think the Dragons having a notepad to jot down numbers is the same as an entrepreneur needing it. To explain: - The dragons have to listen to multiple pitches every day. They have to jot down the numbers for the purpose of conversation because the entrepreneur is presenting them information they don't know. - The entrepreneur by contrast doesn't have to present multiple businesses. They are supposed to know their business. Effectively, they're supposed to know what it costs them to produce what they sell; what they sell it for, how much each sale is worth to them and the aggregate of what that represents in income. What they're making vs what they're spending. - The Entrepreneur being expected to know the numbers for 'their business' is not unlike a student making a presentation on a single topic. A teacher may jot down notes because the teacher has to listen to 20 some-odd presentations and then question the students, etc. it's part of the process. A student making the presentation wouldn't be allowed to have their 'notes' on hand when they make the presentation since they're not supposed to just read it. - Now I understand the devil's advocate argument as well. I sometimes think: "Surely it wouldn't be so bad if they were allowed to have a sheet of paper that had their balance sheet information and they could refer to it. After all, the dragons place such high value on that information and if the entrepreneur can't give it, maybe the dragons lose out on a great investment because the entrepreneur couldn't articulate it properly" - in other words, not letting the entrepreneur have this information on hand could also cheat the dragons out of a good deal if they could see the information, realize the value, even if the entrepreneur can't explain it properly by heart. It's a lot of pressure for the entrepreneur to present their business with these numbers needing to be known by heart. But that's essentially part of this whole presentation. They're supposed to know it. This is their business, the one thing they're responsible for knowing when it comes to this presentation. It's expected of them that they can learn this by heart. Is it fair? It depends on who you ask. We've seen entrepreneurs who nail their numbers. Absolutely nail them. Then we've seen people who may know their numbers, but just falter under the limelight. Similarly there are people who simply say: "I don't know, you'll have to move on I guess.". In the end, there's a reason the dragons are allowed to jot down the numbers. It's because they're being told information they don't know, that they have to make a decision on. They also go through several pitches so numbers could get jumbled if they couldn't keep track of what they're hearing. It's like a teacher listening to a student's presentation given by heart. The teacher will grade the student in part on fielding questions. Those questions come from what the teacher hears in the student's presentation, because the teacher doesn't need to know that information before hand. The student had the duty of researching, learning, memorizing and then presenting a subject. So when the teacher listens to the presentation, they jot down a few notes so they can question the student on it after. Multiple students doing this means the teacher will be jotting down a few notes for every student's presentation. The teacher isn't expected to know what the 20 students presentations will be, he's expected (or she's expected) to listen to the presentation, take notes, then come up with questions based on what they heard for the grading process. Entrepreneurs here need to be intimately familiar with their business. They should know the fundamental numbers of the balance sheet. There are a core group of numbers that are particularly important and should be known. They are responsible for being able to present this one thing to the dragons. The dragons are responsible for listening and fielding questions based on what they hear. So they need to jot down what they hear in order to make an assessment and ask questions. I'm thankful for your comment and I hope this conveys why I think it's okay for the dragons to jot things down in the show while still being okay for the entrepreneur to be expected to know their numbers of their 1 business. Thanks-!

, 😂😂😂

Exactly what I'm thinking

Glad to know I’m not the only one who likes to eat while watching this show 👌🤣

@@JamesCarter1998 same, didn't even know a out shark tank and dragons den until I saw coffeezillas video about the scam pitch.

What does this even mean? From USA fyi

@@cooldawg2009 Tile for £10

The product was fine. No doubt there is a market. Unfortunately, the owner has a strong negativity streak to his personality. Nobody want to work with him.

soon as i saw the product i knew it’d do extremely well. what a convenient product!! i have nothing to do with log splitting but looking at the way it neatly tips over gave me such satisfaction lol im glad to hear the product is doing well xx

Did they sell 3000-4000?

I'm actually quite surprised. It's a brilliant product but I really didn't think there was a big market in the UK or Ireland for that but the more vocal guy clearly had a lot of experience and knew the market. He just had a very negative attitude and didn't have the statistics to back it up. The Nordics would be a great place to sell these, especially Finland. Lots of Finns have their own summer cottage and many have land with trees that they need to cut down. North America would also be a great market and some parts of South America I'm guessing.

He was right that the market is in people buying chainsaws. Why else would you buy a chainsaw. Investors also need to understand the market they are serving to, good on the guy he's doing well. It is a good product. Dragons wanting the future presented as fact is sometimes a bit ludicrous

The Dragons could have helped her by asking her to start

Theo: 🤨

"million pound business" ..... Yeah I doubt that, the fact she has no idea what's happening in any of her stores, no idea shout any numbers and just in general is confused about basic business necessities..... She's losing money for sure and probably 1 if the worst to appear on here. I guess simps like you would throw money at her business just cause it's "cute"

Thought so too, they were pretty harsh for somebody with such a good track record. They may be right on the earning potential though.

Ooh that’s a great point. Or even for frat houses and stuff haha.

And Canada, except the prairies!

Brainerd, Fargo for one.

Its really only useful for the smallest of logs. Wouldn't save time or energy on anything over 8 inches.