Any updates on new stadium at Oakland? That ocean front one been delayed again? I think last time I checked it was to be built by 2023 but I bet Covid has changed that.
Stretch501st they haven’t started yet as they need to find more funding. The team owners have decided not to try to get the city to fund it because whenever the government builds a stadium their are more regulations.
@@TysonIke I have never been a fan of multi billion dollar sports teams getting taxpayers money to fund stadiums. Low-interest bonds is one thing, but actually subsidies are a slap in the face to taxpayers. The designs for it look amazing though if they find the investors. I’m sure they will after things get back to normal.
The renovations are not semetrical which makes the stadium less cool. The stadium never had a good looking exterior so I think that they should have made the boxes above the seats. Or they should have done nothing and made the stadium a public park. Why does a stadium for college football and the Olympic’s need so many boxes anyways.
Problem with that stadium is its just too damn big, i mean they cant even use the one end of the bowl bc its too far away, the rennovation was basically just tripling the size of the press box and luxury seating and leaving the rest the same.
@@forgottenplaces9780 They just need to take out the bleacher seating, that the band sit and have it the way it was, when the Raiders played there but without the track.
Yeah, I clicked on this to see where SF was going to be on the top 5. To my surprise it's not even on the list. They take a stadium and cause it to lose it's register as a historic landmark. Need I say more.
Idk, if there was a huge outside demand for a team from other cities the league probably wouldve expanded to 32 by now, dont forget the league almost contracted 20 years ago, I think theres really only maybe 2 or 3 cities that make much sense nashville which seems most practical the as arent even considering
Not gonna say the "worst", but the stadium modifications for Russia World Cup, where they increased the seating capacity, was kinda scary. When people jumped (or even walked), the whole structure shook as if it was coming down!
As a White Sox fan I’m gonna say I think your dead wrong about our park I know we don’t have the best stadium in the league but I never understand why it’s so poorly rated, especially since all the renovations we’ve done through the years
speaking of chicago a lot of those stadiums started to put those in for wind protection as if those barriers are not up it creates a wind tunnel affect in the concourse tunnels
That was a great piece, my friend, EXCELLENT comments and work. I totally agree with all your points. It really makes one question how these renovations got approved. So wrong and ugly. Particularly, FedEx Field in Washington, D.C. And how could they destroy Jacob's Field in Cleveland like that?! What a beautiful stadium until those mindless crap in right field. You voice is also calm and soothing...conversational. great job, my friend.
Surprised you didn't include Soldier Field's botched renovation. Went from being one of the most iconic stadiums in the NFL, to being taken off the National Historic Landmark registry. Doesn't help that it looks like a spaceship landed inside it.
The modification at Guaranteed Rate is better than what was there before so disagree with that one. Most Sox fans would agree...worst mistake was making that field face away from the downtown skyline
Believe me, as an-Ex Oakland Raider fan, trust me, it won't be long before the Raiders realize "Oh, crap... We have to go back to Oakland..." Because for those that remember Al Davis, thought that it would be the best idea since sliced bread to move the Raiders to LA, and he ended up admitting that it was a mistake. BIG TIME.. but I hope there's a brand new stadium built for you all... #RIPAL #CommitmentToExellence #JustWinBaby
Hey man I love your videos but I got one complaint and I know it’s dumb but can you just talk at normal volume and not whisper in some clips most clips it’s fine but others it sounds like you whisper but again I really do enjoy your videos and keep up the great work.
C'mon man. I'm interested in the topics, have to do something with the monotone commentary. You will get more like and subscriptions, do something find inflection, something
Comiskey could have been better designed from the beginning. That said, every renovation done since has been for the better. It's a much better stadium than it was when it opened.
@@bryan89wr i haven't been there but people really seem to like what green bay did. Like he said in the video, the other improvements to progressive field are wonderful and they did a nice job on Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse as well.
I remember when they were building Mt Davis. The construction actually went on during A’s games to be ready for the start of the 96 season. Not only did it destroy the look of what was a reasonably decent baseball venue at the time but it’s ugly with a capital U. A big concrete monolith with seats ridiculously far from the field.
Yep, I remember the first 6 home game for the A's were played here in Vegas at their AAA baseball field. It was memorable for locals to have major league games in Vegas.
I remember watching that they had opened against the Blue Jays in Vegas the Jays just got Roger Clemons and Jose Canseco, a couple of years later Vegas became the Jays triple A team
fedex field took out over 20 thousands seats from the upper deck, do a video on nascar tracks having to decrease hugeee amount of seats for example dover international speedway had over 160,000 seats in 2002 and today its down to just 60 thousand... thats insannnneeeeee,,,,, love your content keep it up :)
@@justinwarthenRavens owner Steve Bisciotti has invested $150 million, now there are banks of escalators to all levels. He signed a 15 year extension with a 5 year option to renew. He says he might downsize it. A new stadium for the Commaders is on hold until the NFL owner approve the new Josh Harris ownership group.
Before the Sox built that “wall” as you call it it was just steep rows of upper deck seats that hung over the side. The seats sucked as they were so far from the action. So they lobbed off 10 or so rows and put on a roof. It looks much better than before. It was a good renovation.
Olympic Stadium has been a disaster on other levels too. It wasn’t completely finished when the Olympics opened in 1976 and Montreal can’t demolish it because they integrated it into the city’s subway system. But it does have a place in rock history, Pink Floyd performed the final show of their 1977 tour there, and the outside tower was immortalized on The Wall album
You should do a video on the Cincinnati Gardens, old stadium built to try and draw an NHL team to Cincinnati and also hosted the Royals in the 70s for a few years. It was demolished a few years back
I was at the last ever Mighty Ducks game at the Gardens. I swung by and took a whole bunch of pictures after the Robinsons sold but before the Port Authority tore it down.
Here's some first-hand knowledge from a lifelong White Sox hand. You got the first one wrong. Believe it or not, the modifications at New Comiskey Park are an improvement! Yes, the glass wall should be more transparent and provide views of the city, you're correct about that, however, the original upper deck was HATED. It was designed to provide unobstructed views but It was too large and too steep. The exits you mention were also part of the problem because they were so far from the many of the upper deck seats. It was commonly known, that people were afraid to walk up (or down) that upper deck incline for such a distance. Nobody wanted to sit up there. Hence, the modification and improvement.
Yeah, I was totally hopeful that the cinderblocks at Progressive Field would have been some sort of party decks, like a low-budget suite. Instead they're just...weird.
First off, great name! I took my father to a weekend series there against the tribe in 2018 and we absolutely loved it. From the staff to other fans couldn't have been nicer to us out-of-towners. I especially loved the brewery down the third base line. We took in all three games and sat in different seats for each. In my opinion, for the money, the left field bleachers are great!
I will admit Comiskey Park (and I will always call it that, I don't care what anybody else says) has been greatly improved from when it first opened back in 1991. Still not great I don't think, but at least acceptable
've been on that upper concourse and it does get windy. Trash blowing around, hats blowing off, rain pelting in. Those baffles definitely serve a purpose. As for the view GR is quite a ways from down town so there's not much to see outside anyway. Agree with others, the Park has improved quite a bit since 91.
I remember how steep the old upper deck was when it first opened. Removing those rows helped a lot. Also going from the blue to the green seats was an improvement as well.
Before New Comiskey was built the White Sox were threating to move, so the city caved and built them a massive and expensive new stadium. Then it got bad reviews and the city went year after year paying for massive expensive renovations. And now the White Sox still get bad attendance and its still rated as one of the worst ballparks lol.
What Coors Field did in upper right field is perfect I am partial season ticket holder love going to Rooftop deck Progressive Field should have done that 😐
White sox park was a victim of changing times and a need for a new stadium, a very bad combo for anyone at that time, while I have been to both versions of the stadium, pre renovations and post, I must say that the newer renovations have made the stadium much better
@@hotredboy84 yeah, the renovation really did the justice to the stadium (the name still sucks tho, should be New Comiskey or Comiskey II). There should be a list of stadiums built at the wrong time like Fedex, Trop, Georgia Dome, old Charlotte Coliseum, Alamodome etc.
@@musyarofah1 yeah some people around here still call it comiskey Park or the cell, I find myself saying both sometimes or white sox park lol at some point all three names were correct 😆
Ok man, to be honest, the Guaranteed Rate Field glass thing isn't even close to the biggest issue in chicago stadiums. Soldier field (host's the bears) got this weird renovation in 2002-03 to it's classic beautiful neoclassical architecture, and put a massive glass thing on top, its ugly, its horrific, it looks like a spaceship crashed into it, and its one of the worse things right by lake michigan. I'd suggest for future video's you do a bit more research.
@@forgottenplaces9780 Also, as i'm thinking about this, i'd suggest you do a video on all of chicago's major stadiums (well one stadium, one video) because the history of a lot of them are quite interesting. Like the united center has the blackhawks and the bulls, and before hand they had "Chicago Stadium" which was one of the most interesting stadiums out there. Also after the 2016 win from the Cubs in the world series, the owners got super greedy, built hotels, and more, and the entire wrigley field area kind of lost it's charm. And finally maybe (if you want to) the Chicago fire stadium situation, which is a interesting topic to research.
I remember when I was a kid that new Comiskey Park wasn't well received, but the renovations really do make it an enjoyable ballpark. I would like the Sox next stadium to be an updated modern jewel box on the site of the old ballpark. I saw a design that wasn't chosen but it would be good in land starved Chicago. I'm sure once the Bears build their new Arlington Park stadium that the Sox, Bulls and Blackhawks are going to want new stadiums, as its been 30 years already.
the coliseum never had a shot at becoming a classic, iconic ballpark no matter what. at its core, it's always been just another circular cookie cutter bowl with all that comes attached to that: seats far far away from the action, acres of foul ground, boring symmetry in both the look of the stands and the field dimensions leading to a distant, not intimate, feel of the game and an overall lack of personality. mt davis didn't cause those problems. the universally agreed standards and ideas in regards to stadium building of the 60s and 70s simply created generally horrible baseball venues. now of course, the coliseum is or was still much better than the truly terrible generic domes and donuts that sprung up everywhere else, but it was still destined to fail bc of when it was built.
At Guaranteed Rate, that wall protects fans in the nosebleeds from rain and wind. With weather being so unpredictable in Chicago, it's definitely nice for fans sitting up there.
Don't you mean opaque glass for Guaranteed Rate Field? Instead of transparent? You even mentioned that people can't see out into the city when they are on the concourse
@@forgottenplaces9780 the seats are against that wall. There’s no space behind the seats. As for the actual concourse, there are concession stands on both sides of the aisle. You can only see the skyline if you step out toward the down ramps. Plus plus, the wall blocks the wind, too. The better argument would be, why doesn’t Sox Park face the skyline?? That would be sweet.
@@forgottenplaces9780 The Concourse in that stadium isn’t where you said, it’s at the base of the upper deck, which is why all of the entry points to seats are there. That wall that was put up literally sits behind the furthest (top) row of seats and operates as a part of the roof. There are upper and lower concourses at GR Field.
EXCELLENT, my friend. My God, who was responsible for that absolutely HIDEOUS architectural modification done to Fedexfield in Washington DC?! An infant could design something better than that...
The shipping containers are NOT concrete. That would imply that they are permanent. They are “temporary” metal/fiberglass structures that were meant as placeholders until they figure out what to do next. Original plan was something like Coors, but funding fell through.
No there concrete, at least on the top where you stand anyway (i have stood on them several times) i think they may be solid on the inside too as i remember seeing photos of rebar during construction, the panels on the front are metal but just thin sheet metal, i dont believe that rumor about them taking them down, they were built to stay, unless they had some major surge in attendance which wont happen.
Another bad stadium modification was probably before your time. In 1979, they converted Angel Stadium from a baseball-only stadium to a dual-use facility when the Rams moved out of the Coliseum. They enclosed the entire perimeter and added these roll-out bleachers for football games. It went from being a decent baseball stadium to a bad stadium for both sports, with bad sight lines and no personality. They converted it back to baseball-only after the Rams moved to St. Louis and Disney bought the Angels.
I have an idea that ugly additional translucent wall thingy at the White Sox' stadium was put there for only one reason, helping keep the sun out of players' eyes.
The white Sox stadium is like that because the seats would go on even longer but they got rid of about 8 rows and put those translucent windows because the sun glare was bad but you wouldn't even see the city at all. - a Chicagoan
"Guaranteed Rate Field"--also is the worst name for a baseball stadium. Olympic Stadium--I went there once to see the Expos play. It was like watching baseball in a shopping mall.
Ah yes, "The Big Owe" in Montreal...and people are *still* waiting for that man to have a baby. (At the time Montreal's mayor claimed that the Montreal Games could not possibly have a cost overrun as a man could not have a baby.) The roof wasn't completed for the games in '76, so the stadium was partially open-air. At one point, it rained so heavily that the flame was put out. Legend has it that some guy offered to relight it with his Bic lighter, but they used the flame from one of the lanterns that was still lit to relight it. But hey, at least you can enter the stadium right from the Montreal Metro.
The seats that the now-Commanders should've removed first to remove first from Fedex Field were the lower bowl seats underneath the second decks' overhang as well as the first few rows of the lower bowl.
I'm not sure if you've done a vid on this but awhile back the Orange bowl got upgraded and turned into camping world stadium but honestly I'm not sure if I like as much as I like the orange bowl. I feel like the orange bowl even though it looks much nicer it kinda got done dirty.
I took my kids to the top of the Jake( I refuse to call it progressive field) and I couldn't believe that shit! My kids asked me what they were, and I had no idea. Got some cool pics though
I had no idea the file cabinets in Cleveland had nothing to them. So many other stadiums did similar things well, like the Rockies did with the Rooftop.
The modified roof at G-Rate Field does not wrap all around the stadium. It was done to remove the rows high in the back and extend the roof further over the stands.
Regarding the renovations made to the right field upper deck at the Jake, the team could have used the blueprint set up by the Cardinals in the mid 90’s when they converted the center field upper deck at old Busch Stadium into an area showcasing their pennants and retired numbers. IIRC, the conversion was made so the displays did not require the removal of seats. Aesthetically, the upper deck looked great and it was probably the best of all cookie cutter stadiums.
Jack Murphy Stadium/Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego should be on here. It was a beautiful stadium until it was enclosed in 1997. The view of the hills on the east side was lost, and it was just way too big. Some of those upper deck seats were never used, and you couldn't even really see the endzones or the scoreboard from the upper east deck.
