Absolutely agreed! Back when I was still in school (90s), took it upon myself to learn holistic medicine. Ayervedic and chinese as well as Western. Natural medicine is in my personal opinion, much cleaner and safer. Not just extracted chemical, from plants and minerals, which is like strip mining. One of my favorites is wintergreen, because it has asperin and tastes better too.
@@cadreops6067 Wintergreen is liquid aspirin, Methyl salicylate, very strong scent and hot! It's synergistic with peppermint, that's the magic sauce for pain relief. Comfrey salve, yarrow, elderberry syrup, iodine and essential oils will cover most of the needs.
I love the look on his face when he's talking about the "mediator"! Every group needs a referee. Luckily, in our group the mediator is also the one with the chocolate chip cookie recipe.
and this is a Good time to have some education time... Plus start to teach the kids some basic skills some can learn to help in the garden....some of the kids can learn to fish...Collect firewood.
There should also be another person that is the Guard assigned to the children, not to normally help with them. This person needs to have the ability to get immediate compliance with the children. When he says go to cover, it is done without question every time. He might thought of as the dean or disciplinarian. Last thing you need is an emergency happen and the kids don't listen to them to go to cover. This might seem a little harsh, but a loose kid can seriously endanger the group.
I am a member of the UKSN (United Kingdom Survival Network), and as the title implies, it is a network of groups linked across the UK who work together in order to achieve a better result for all concerned. As this network is sometimes across large distances, the communications between groups, and withing a group is important and every area has its comms representative. Their job is to maintain local, national and international radio comms and ensure that there is a knowledge base to run the radios, build simple repeaters or antennas from junk, maintain the power supply required to charge and operate the systems and train nominated people on how to use the different radios within a group. When the mobile telephone network goes down, a secure radio network will be vital to the security of your group and that of others you communicate with.
@@Froddofromtheshire you are half correct there are plenty of prior service that don't know how to run logistics. They have 5 rifles, 1000 rounds, and expect to forage. On the other hand; _most_ civilians can be just as bad in other ways. They have all of the skills, but give off liability vibes. Take the corona virus. I'm hearing people say stuff about people being quarantined because "my rights" rugged individualism is great, but when SHTF we sacrifice for the greater good, and prior service has a higher probability of understanding that. If you got 6 months worth of food come on, just stay out of my waym
@@JohnMiller-iu2sx I think someone willing to join a group prior to "shtf" already understands the importance of the "greater good". Jumping to conclusions about folks is short sighted.
Military usually sticks with military. I don’t understand the mindset. Some have the attitude I have been in the military so I know better than you. Not many but some. Those are the groups you need to steer clear of
I have been a new construction Plumber my whole life. That made me learn a decent amount of knowledge and skills in ALL the trades. Being mechanically inclined naturally, helps. I'm retired now. That's my hobby. Improvising and building just about anything I can. I've made wood fired boilers for heating a backyard pool. Solar powered 12v RV waterpumps made it an entirely free system. I can't fight offensively anymore. Too worn out! But I can fabricate just about anything with a variety of materials.
Did rough plumbing for a few years after the seabees. Now I'm back in school to be a machinist. I think the skills as a builder are far more valuable than the skills as a fighter.
@@revolvertaco7493 Being able to skilfully operate a back hoe is pretty impressive to me. Especially when I was the guy in the trench with just a shovel and a tape.
My advice. When it comes to your role in a survival group you are who you are. For example I’m a jack of all trades and problem solver. If a group I’m interested in needs a medic then i won’t try and fill that role because I’m not great at it so it’s in everyone’s best interest that I don’t.
Eggs in jars of lime water fills in all the pores of the egg and encases them in a shell of "glass". Water glassed eggs can last stored at room temperature like this for up to 2 years. This method of preserving raw eggs has been used since the 1800s and was common even into the 1940s and 50s. When refrigerators became a standard kitchen appliance, water glassing almost became a lost art. You must use clean, but unwashed eggs. You cannot use commercial eggs for this because they have all had the protective coating (bloom) washed off the shell and will quickly go bad. I recently scrambled up 18 eggs that had been stored in lime water for 7 months on an unrefrigerated cupboard shelf. They tasted perfectly fresh (although the yoke seemed a bit thinner than fresh eggs). Anyhow, if you have an abundance of fresh, unwashed eggs, you might want to try putting some away for later. The ratio is one ounce (by weight) of lime (calcium hydroxide) to one quart of water. Calcium hydroxide is a completely natural, organic ingredient and harmless, although the powder is very fine and may irritate your lungs if you breathe it in. The lime water also quickly dried out the skin on my hands and I had to apply lotion to get them back to normal. The jars do not need to be sealed in any way, other than to keep the water clean. If you can't drink your culinary tap water, use filtered water. When you do use the eggs, be sure to rinse them thoroughly before you crack them or they will taste like lime. FYI: a gallon size container will store about 40 eggs. It can be plastic or glass and should be covered with some sort of lid to keep out dust and bugs. Lime is also known as calcium hydroxide or hydrated lime. You can buy it in 50 pound bags in the masonry section of the hardware store, or in 1 pound bags in the canning section of the grocery store....often labeled as "pickling lime". BTW thanks Lisa Timpson and your hens for gifting me 6 dozen eggs and Jennifer Johnson for giving me the pickle bottles, they are the perfect container for this. If you'd like to see more homebody brews follow my page facebook.com/happinesswalksonbusyfeet
Thank you, this can be the difference between protein all year or and imbalance of nutrients! Not too big a deal for us adults but can be life and death for kids who are still growing and developing
Mine is a little different. I have multiple people assigned to different groups depending on background and skills. 1.Food and water 2. Medical 3. Comms/ communication/ solar 4. Mechanics / bio diesel 5. Security/ resource acquisition There should be cross training and cooperation between all parties. This will give way to smaller more specific groups. For example members of food and water may work with some members of medical for herbal medicine such as elderberry or aloe vera. Obviously older members and less mobile men will make up the home guard while the younger more mobile security is out on missions.
*FARMER: without knowledge of how to germinate & sprout seeds or cuttings, plant & harvest, store food for long term & regather seeds, no group will ever truly be free from threat of others.* *Liberty = Peace & I pray we always enjoy both!*
For a good novel that outines how these leaders emerge in an emergency, read One Second After (A John Matherson Novel), by William R Forstchen. The premise is that all electronics in the United States suddenly become inoperable (the fact is unexpected; the explanation, at last, is not). The first novel was promoted by Newt Gingrich as the kinds of things that the U.S. should be thinking about; there are two sequels, "One year after," and the third is called "The final day." They are thought provoking for any "survival" minded citizens. Many don't.
Doctor or Dentist would be high on my list. Building your community around a country doctor. Many people have this belief that a firearm is going to solve all their problems. That they will hunt for or take by force all they need. A organized community of like minded people who have families to think about will rally around their core values. Many people think that old people are just not needed. Yet how many valuable skills does your grandmother or grandfather have? Cooking, canning, gardening, food storage, repair, woodworking , ranching, farming or teaching to just name a few. In addition older people can be used for watching children when mom or dad have other more critical skills to do. My grandparents are all passed away now but they survived the Great Depression and WW2. How many of you have older neighbors that you write off in ths SHTF scenario that you envision that have skill sets you do not even know about. And the last thing I almost never hear about on any channel. I hear it mentioned in passing but more attention is paid to Black rifles and tacticool knives is Sanitation and hygeine. We all know we have to keep ourselves and our AO clean but do you have a plan? Can you scale that plan up to 20 or 30 people. How are you going to get rid of your wsste while protecting your food, water and health? We see what is happening in China with CoronaVirus. What is your plan to prevent the spresd of infectious diseases? Do you have a quarantine area planned? To separate the sick? Good luck. If all you spent your money on was an AR15 and some ammo.
Shawn R...Good points to consider. Thank you for your input. Maybe also something to consider, if your group is so inclined, is a Spiritual Leader. One who can provide Spiritual comfort for the coming bad times.
Personally I think that the biggest and cheapest bang for your buck is going to be liquid and powdered bleach. 8 drop per gallon to sanitize clear water 16 for cloudy. Up it a little more in order to have a cheap and extremely effective disinfecting solution. Bleach is extremely important...
In a true long term, grid down scenario, you will not be "getting rid of your waste." It will be worth more than gold and like it or not, you're going to have to use it to fertilize your crops. If you don't close the loop, you will eventually deplete your soil of micronutrients if nothing else. There are safe ways of doing it and unsafe ways of doing it. It would be best to familiarize yourself with those ways now; even if you don't use them in practice just yet.
In a SHTF scenario EVERYONE helps keep the community going. This includes speaking aged children and the elderly. Babies and toddlers aside; everyone must pull their own weight to keep everything going. Not saying a six year old should be in charge of food and water or guarding the livestock from predators; but the kid can do other things to free adults for harder big person work.
Gotta say at the end of the day keeping a kid alive can be anyone's job. There can be someone who's better at it but don't necessarily need a specialist unless they're specifically a OBGYN or Pediatrician but they would fit general medical role as well. The basic Food, poop and care can be anyone's job.
A good chemist. Every high school and university has a chemical stockroom. Hardware stores, grocery stores…pretty much anywhere you end up scavenging…better with a chemist. You can treat water with iodine. How much crystalline elemental iodine is the equivalent of a tab, once you run out of those? Did you remember to bring the vitamin C to reduce the iodine and make the water palatable again? Do you know that it’s called ascorbic acid, and under A, not under C? Do you know how to make aspirin? Painkillers make a difference. The reagents in one school are usually enough for several hundred grams. When Wikipedia doesn’t work anymore, simply being able to read the labels on bottles you might scavenge, know what they mean and what that stuff is good for, that’s a big help. You might leave behind 500 grams of research grade naproxen because you don’t realize that it is Aleve. You can’t run an internal combustion engine on octane, despite the name. But, you can use tert-Butyl methyl ether or ethyl acetate. You can make gunpowder with potassium nitrate, but it’s probably more useful as fertilizer. If you mix hydrogen peroxide and vinegar, you generate peracetic acid, which is a much more powerful sterilization wash than either alone. But, it needs to sit in cool dark place for ~48hrs to form. A lot of preppers are homesteaders. Those kinds of people have huge advantage in knowledge about fundamental tasks of agriculture, animal husbandry, and home crafts. But, they’re often somewhat suspicious about scientists. Thing is, scientists have social clout because their theories lead to productive and useful outcomes. When SHTF, you’re not going to have spare time or energy to be politically anything. Politics is a luxury of civilization. If you’re injured, or delivering a child, or feverish and dying…you’re going to want the aspirin, naproxen…anything. You’re going to eat the GMO corn, because otherwise you will starve. You’re going to get vaccinated and you’re going to wear a mask. Not because it is one kind of political or not, but because SHTF, nobody is political. You don’t want to die or be crucified with pain? Do what the scientist says. That is why scientists got social clout in the first place. People got tired of living in pain, outliving their children, and dying young, anyway. So, we fixed part of that. And, it would help a lot if you listened to scientists before SHTF. You will afterwards. Or, you’ll be dead. But, it would help if that wasn’t a choice people had to make.
You have a few good points, but it turns out this is just a long winded vax push and political rant. Nice. Scientists are losing clout because they have gone political. Can't trust too much anymore. Shtf, you have to prove yourself an asset and earn trust. Otherwise you are just a threat.
5 gallons seems excessive, I think you are spot on regarding the security to obtain the water. Any water source will be a choke point (like the river crossings}. Finding laypersons able to take care go gun shots will be rare. I would think you would need to find a paramedic or an ER nurse (RN), ER doctors or surgeons will be in very shout supply . Medical supplies IE: antibiotics, suture kits, dressings, splint's along with other medications which will be needed. Great Video, needed information
AFAIAC if your water source is outside your perimeter, you need to be digging a well central to the perimeter. As a second priority *after* the well, *possibly* consider placing a buried underground stealth pipe from the water source. God Bless us all
Great video. Excellent points. So my fellow viewers, what specialty old fashioned skills can you bring to a village? What piece of equipment can you supply? So many don't understand these needs of a small community. It is one thing to prepare for a couple weeks of no electricity, gas, etc, but to survive a year or longer, you need some other skills in a group. But in a long term collapse if you want to keep a town alive you need a lot of skills. Utilities, kitchens, medic/nursing/doctor/,farming, scavenging, construction, clothing and footwear, farrier, fletcher, butcher, veterinarian, dentist, manufacturing of needed chemicals such as soaps/painkillers/explosives/lubricants, engineers and mechanics, childcare, weavers, teachers, blacksmith, armorer, hygiene engineer, storeroom and supplies, scribe, librarian, undertaker, police, even musicians entertainers and artists will be necessary for long term. It will look like a medieval village. There will be apprenticeships and as things stabilize guilds connecting various workmen in separate towns. Last Comment, I want to throw knives and axes at the wall behind you, all that end grain looks like fun!
Great video. Thank you. With almost 30 year in the armed forces I would organize mye Team as a command structure on a batalion level it would be. S-1 Personell, S-2 Security and inteligence, S-3 Operation/planning, S-4 Logistic, S-5 Civil-Military cooperation (there is your negotiator) and S-6 Communication or all aspect around C4IS, S-7 Resource management. All of these would have sub groups, so as a exampel maintence would be under the S-4. I agree totally on all of your 5 overlooked roles, and have seen the lack of som of these capacities in operations. Like in security. You need womens to interact with womens who aproach your position, if they have to be searched and/or something similar.
Charlie, I believe that these should be part of the base skills that should be developed within any sized community, from 1 to 2 people upwards. I many cases these skills will be found in the older people through their lifes experience, and who may not be able to add as much from the physical level, but their great knowledge and wizdom, will always be an asset.
People are chosen for their role for the group. I don’t choose folks then try and figure it out. It’s like the military. Everyone is a rifleman but everyone has a MOS. The only exceptions are those that come with someone. In other words the construction, sniper, teacher might come with a spouse who isn’t really skilled. They will be assigned a job. Almost everyone will also have additional jobs as well.
Tribal roles. The hierarchy is diminished. Each role is as important as the others when it is needed. The larger the tribe, the success rate increases. Have I got a support network that adequate to advance or just sustain is an assessment that needs to be regularly made.
I like building stuff. If you can't figure out how to build or create then it'll be a hard road for you. In a SHTF scenario you can't call a handyman or go pick it up at Walmart. Way I see it, and I might touch on what he was saying, with the skills to create or fix you really don't need others as much as the general person. In a necessity sense at least a tinkerer can create everything needed for survival and even if they get robbed as long as they're able to build they can just do it again. Water catchment and purification, weapons, 1st aid, transportation, shelter, food and food traps, tools, outside communication and surveillance or just creature comforts. All of those can be accomplished by the brain. I understand the logic of playing nice with others but at the end of the day with enough skill, time and resources a tinkerer can do whatever they want with or without a group and that's why social skills aren't our top priority, it's irrelevant. I'm a polymath, 28 with a few trade certs but basically taught myself and accomplished everything practical from alternative farming to electrical to off grid architecture. Now I'm not a hermit, I have a great fiance and good friends I just like the feeling of no matter what not being reliant on anyone, in fact with enough ability ppl become reliant on you making you valuable. Sounds conceded but I'd rather the latter than the former. Also you'd want to say "until you get kidnapped and forced to work" which is part of every apocalypse movie. To that I say, I'm 5'9" 250lbs of former college wrestler and BJJ coach. They might get me but they'd have to put in work.
Mostly people just need something to do. Some people just aren’t any good in a crisis situation. You’re probably gonna need some coloring books and crayons.
Excellent! A "resource aquisition specialist" (aka: scrounger) would be invaluable! Should be your supply person. Being able to acquire what is needed is a special skill. I learned that from being in the military.
@@PatrickKQ4HBD I heard stories of USAF guys sneaking into Army motor pools in Vietnam. They spray painted over the Army markings and put USAF markings on them. They were able to drive out past the guard with no problem. He was only tracking Army vehicles! Also, in the Philipines, the locals stole a USAF flightline fire/crash truck (a big mother). They turned on the red lights and siren and drove it out the gate. I worked for the guy who was working the gate that day. He just waved them on. The truck ended up at the Angeles City airport where it stayed for the rest of its life.
What you are saying is a military group is the only answer you must have trust and discipline veterans are a must leader ship is the key my military training was 50 years ago and i still remember it last but not least be careful who you trust
Strategic planner is good. They or another needs to also be record keeper. When are kids born, crops planted, what day of the year it is. Another person that may be one of the tinkerers is a clothing person or team even. Clothes and shoes wear out. Who works leather and who patches clothes or makes new cloth?
I would say the enforcer/lieutenant (maybe sergeant for you Americans) of the group is important to. The person that make sure rules are followed and commands carried out. This person doesn't make the big decisions but make sure everything is moving along and gets information back to those that make the big decisions.
I would add a mental health specialist for a real SHTF situation. For routine emergencues like hurricanes, there is mental trauma but the rest of society is functioning and can fulfill that role. Where society has broken down, you need someone in your group who can deal with intermittent and long-term mental health issues. Even in the last recession, child and spousal and animal abuse increased. Mediator/negotiator works with mentally healthy people but don't usually have the skills for mental health issues.
I guess I need to try and start a group. Non where I live at. Will set it up as a republic. Each individual family is in control of their own preps and we don’t tell eachother what to do and when to do it. But a network of families we can barter with, help eachother out support one another. When one lacks certain things the others can help provide and vise versa. Don’t need a bunch of rules that have to be followed because each family will rule their own. Don’t need some prick standing up and screaming I’m the leader and this group will do as I say. That will only bring strife.
Another person to have in a survival group is a Green Thumb 👍. Sure your group may have seeds and seed packets but someone must have knowledge to actually grow the stuff. Plus if you can a Dentist to take care of those teeth.
Good list...i especially like the last role on your list....I would add others seen in the comments below as necessary for the group´s needs. All in all, useful ideas for my work scriptwriting for a post-SHTF adventure-horror story (that could be developed in a series for internet TV) set 6 months post-collapse revolving around the saga of a young professional woman who bugs-out to a rumored peaceful sanctuary community, set in modern-day Venezuela, where I on location participating with local pros all set for the series initial production phase.
@@PatrickKQ4HBD Yep! Venezuela! Been a resident here many years....even operated (still do, but seldom lead a tour due to the pandemic) an adventure tour company...The severe deterioration here over the last 2 decades makes this country an almost perfect place to shoot a tropical post-apocalyptic TV series or movie!
What about the ant organization: each one does what there is to do. Not all ants are soldiers, but all fight when needed, for example. What a human being does, another can do. Maybe not so well, or so quickly, but I'm sure that the first suture of any surgeon was not that great. Of course, you can train yourself using a piece of meat.
Join NASAR,, they will train you in everything from survival to medical. They teach you how to pack and use a 72 hour backpack.. How to make a fire in under 5 minutes, have water boiling in under 5 minutes, & set up a shelter under 5 minutes, They teach you to rescue yourself so you can rescue others..
Is this realistic? The only one I can depend on as a prepper, is my wife. My children know I'm a prepper, but they have their own lives and are very busy raising their children and paying their mortgage. Next, virtually all people I know think that prepping is silly, even now we face a global climate crisis. When SHTF, most likely several people show up with an empty belly and little children - with a mindset that fits a loving, caring environment. I can feed six people at most. When I am lucky a few of them will be able to hold a weapon and be able to kill out of self defense.
Strategic planner should be a Sigma, but leader should be an Alpha. Sigmas can leader, of course, but they derive no joy from it as Alpha’s do. Sigma’s are architects and thinkers. Alpha’s are extroverted action people, who trive on the attention. Sigma’s do not, but both are essential. Sigma has the ultimate say so if a dispute erupts between him and the Alpha, if the group wants to continue existing, but the Alpha does the extraverted activities that Sigma’s generally care little about.
I was really looking forward to hearing the information that you wanted to convey to us. however you are so freaking long-winded, you totally lost my attention. Tighten up brother!
