5 Reasons Why Grand Seiko is Better than Rolex 

Steady on, there are some very tasty watch makers out their that blast GS out of the water…just not at this price 😉

@@mell3109 u can get anything u want as long as u pay the price, that’s why comparisons are only fair in the same price range.

@@my2l Exactly. An A lange Sohne beats GS everywhere but it’s no where near the same price

Absolutely nothing can beat GS at the price point. I've been a GS fan for the past ten years. I also love being able to wear my watch without the risk of being robbed for it or having the stigma of attention-seeking, label whore shit.

Ok dude…

I think Rolex focus a lot on both and that’s why they are on top

I'd agree, but the quality of Grand Seiko's bracelets is far below that of an Oyster bracelet. I just don't understand it, as it's literally what's binding you to the watch and so it's one of the most important parts.

Jeff you talk rubbish

@@Orbbman My statement was not about the quality of either watch, it was about marketing and hype.

@@jeffhudson2346 I get your point, really. But imho Grand Seiko is not prioritizing quality and finishing unless they’re improving what many people criticize since years. Never wondered why you see so many Snowflakes on leather straps?

I bought a 60x loupe just so I can sit and stare at my Grand Seikos lol.

I've travelled the same path. And although my collection incudes 2 vintage Rolex watches, I have absolutely no interest in anything they're currently offering. In fact, I can't remember the last time I even visited their website. GS on the other hand, sees me frequently.

The very last thing a Submariner is Breathtaking

YES:) Thanks so much for your comment. Ten years ago I probably would have bought a Rolex, but now for me, it's Grand Seiko all the way, and incidentally also planning on acquiring a Reverso at some point.

Rolex = Analog bitcoin

Save up and get one man. Every watch enthusiast should have atleast 1 spring drive movement

Great story! 😀

great story which model is it or what was the value???

@@christopherlopez2729 probably $500

Did u fix it

It was probably considered too valuable to wear by your grandfather... Seiko also divided itself into two factories and had them compete with each other to improve their watches hence the Grand Seiko and the King Seiko. I believe the Grand Seiko was the Daini factory while the King Seiko was the Suwa factory which was the only Seiko factory to survive the second world war. Both put Rolex to shame.

I want to be adopted into your family member's family

That's a great gift right there

I get 25 dollar gift card to Starbucks

@@WatchUnwind Like Rolex, Starbucks coffee is overpriced! For $25USD, You can get a lot more decent tasting coffee at Cumberland Farms. 🌝

@@krokodyl1927 haha very true 😂

My grail was the SBGA211. Saved for over four years to buy it. Since then I've owned three Grand Seikos.

Buddy GS has been hailed from the 90s just depends which channel you are tuned into...

@@WeeSmokey I'm not even sure what you're attempting to say here. GS has been around since the 60s. I'm not sure what you mean by "hails from the 90s"

I kinda like the fact that Grand Seiko doesn't get the attention it deserves. I don't want everyone to suddenly start flocking over to the watch that I love because you get the pretentious, insecure, attention seeking, trend followers who know nothing about watches but buy a watch because it's the expensive watch to have then act like they're a watch person because they can afford one. All in vain. These types of show offs are the type that buy a rolex. Let them stay over there.

When I first got interested in watches and made the decision to choose mechanical timepieces over the electronic distraction strapped to my hip, the SGBA413 was the first one to set my heart alight. Can I afford it? No, it's as out of reach as a broken Rolex, as I'm poor. But that watch is absolutely my grail.

Exactly. I don’t want thousands of dollars of my money supporting a sport I have nothing to do with.

It's a quartz regulated servo regulated movement using mechanical power to drive its own electrical generator that operates the servo loop. I say it's much closer to a mechanical movement than it is to a battery operated quartz movement.

​@@Turboy65I think they use piezo electric crystals to accumulate electrical energy from mechanical movements of the wrist or arm.

Watching that seconds hand sweep is really something quite special and that's coming from a Pepsi GMT holder. I always say, at least when you buy a GS Spring drive you know its real or not immediately. You can't fake that sweep.

Recently bought the snowflake on a trip to Japan as it had always been a bit of a bucket list purchase. As with you I think there will definitely be more on the horizon, they truly are mesmerising in more ways than one!

Contrast this with their 9F85. Which is a perfect tick with no back bounce. And, more impressive hasn't lost a second in three years of daily wear!!1! But, a Spring Drive is on the horizon.

You can buy the Seiko any time you want.

Yes! Tudor here as well. And I’m perfectly happy with it (mine is the GMT). I just don’t respect the Rolex game.

Yes, I hate the current market as well and refuse to buy anything from them. The idea that you have to befriend AD or buy something else before you can be put on a waitlist to get the watch you want is just disgusting. I have better things to do with my time/money. I can't blame them though, it's in their best interest not to increase production to meet temporary demand. Having said that, this doesn't take away from the fact that their watches are excellent for what they are. You're not going to get hand-finishing or high complications from Rolex, it's not what the brand is about. But if you're looking for a robust, reliable, and versatile watch that you can wear pretty much anywhere, then in my opinion, Rolex is second to none.

SGBA211 is my dream watch.

Isn’t that ridiculous that it’s so difficult to give a brand your money?

I have a big hope for JWST 🙏 cant wait the first photo 🙂

I mentioned the JWST in another recent video and thought people might get annoyed if I mentioned it again 😄

@@watchfinder 😂 I think more people will be annoyed by the praises of Rolex than the reference of the James Webb Space Telescope 🔭

Never settle!

While I don’t consider any of the GS dive watches or GMTs to be as outright handsome as the GMT II, they have there own appeal. If anything, the only real complaint is there a tad thick for my taste. Regardless, no matter what GS you end up with, you will certainly be happy!

And that 39mm Astron 🙌

Do you know the SBGR253?

@@PEDOCACACULOPEDOPIS Yeah, great reference! Maybe a little too thick for the 37mm, but all in all a great piece.

exactly this, these brands need to make a quality 36/37mm with a bracelet!

36mm Spring Drive GS with good bracelet. Instant buy for me

I just took a look at that watch........wow! that dial!! Great choice.

To the narrator/present or if this watchfinder video, sometimes you are a good philosopher, but on this occasion you are talking utter nonsense! You really do talk crap sometimes dude! Bloody whatchfinder, Richmont group employee, what can one accept after all!

What a great choice, the contrast between the hands and the dial on that watch really make it pop.

@@alimuzhussain8394 calm down

Wonderfully written with that part about the visual crescendo. What a joy giving piece you have bought yourself, congratulations.

Well said. Ive seen many rich people at youtube really comparing Grand Seiko to Patek quallity wise so i bet its true.

Ive owned two Grand Seikos, one I kept and the other I had to return for what seems like QC issues. There were scratches all over the dial and the case. The damage on the outside may have an easy explanation, but the dial was a completely different story. The bracelet also felt quite cheap even compared to the GS quartz I still own, which is without any imperfections even under a loupe.

@@ralex3531 I will agree that the bracelet on all of the GS is not as good as it could be but it's only in the last 7-10 years that Rolex have got their act together in respect of their bracelet. I still remember the days of bracelet stretch and the pressed clasp and when I say that they were bad I'm understating how bad they were. The head of the watch was always well made but Rolex possibly had the worst bracelet of any mid to high level watch brand. I still firmly believe that it would not have improved if not for Omega, in the 90's Omega started to make solid links and end links on their bracelets and Rolex always compared themselves to Omega. When Omega started to use a milled clasp was when Rolex knew that they had to improve their bracelets and funnily enough that was when they started to radically increase in price. I believe up until the point that Rolex had to increase quality of the bracelets the watches were made to a price and not to the best quality of all parts of the watch. I say this as a long time owner and buyer of Rolex watches, I still have the first one I got ,well technically I don't have it I gave it to my grandson so it's still in the family but that watch has had 3 bracelets in 49 years and I still have all the bracelets and genuinely they didn't improve until my grandson had it serviced 2 years ago and got the bracelet replaced.

@@Visitor555 Not even close to true. They're talking out of their asses.

@@rava2107 Yeah, from what I understand, the Seamaster bracelet was ahead of many watch companies at the time. I do think the quartz bracelet is pretty good though on GS, they just need to improve the clasp and allow it to integrate better.

And nobody cares.

The newer movements did this. Look at the Omiwatari

@@LawryBoyer Thank you for that info. Best regards to you.

Also, they just recently announced the White Birch w/ Spring Drive

@@xx1j Yup; announced just four days ago-the SLGA009. Automatic, 5 day power reserve, and with the power reserve indicator on the back.

See the limited edition SBGY003. Clean, 3 hands dial, with power reserve at the back. Perfect!

You do know that Tudor is Rolex ?

@@WhoCares69 A Rolls Royce is a BMW. Same company. Your point?

Agreed. Obviously this guy never mentions these things because they’re too busy showing us slow motion second hands and balance wheels. No proper reviews.

@@ThisIsMTH perhaps you should do a better, proper review. didn't think so...

GS focused on the watch and the movement to keep the cost down. A good bracelet can cost up to $2000 or more.

@@aclogarta I’m totally down with spending $12k on a flagship Grand Seiko with a bracelet that meets Rolex’s standards.

@@ThisIsMTH he is a GS fan boy

Both are great brands, better is subjective. Rolex has great case finishing, timeless design, and very well engineered movements with solid construction. GS has great dials and case and movement finishing.

@@kronikinsomniak Both are great watches and I like them for different reasons. The Rolex for it's timeless design and simplicity. The Grand Seiko for the finishing and detail. Both are on my collection list. I am just saying though that the Rolex has a brand recognition that pretty much trumps any other brand regardless of any objectivity when it comes to quality or finishing. EVERYONE knows a Rolex and will give you the props / clout for having one. Rolex is 99% status symbol these days. The average Rolex wearer couldn't tell you anything about the watch or what makes it special. Every sales guy, doctor, or finance guy who ever had a good year has a Rolex because it is a Rolex and nothing more.

good thing watches are personal thing. u buy these things for urself, to look at it with pride. even if the mass has a different opinion, the only opinion worth considering is ur own.

Well, there used to be a time when rappers were flashing Acuras en Lexus', so who knows.

Rapper flashing iced out Rolex instead of GS is a good thing. It proves the point that Rolex is the brand for the (ignorant) masses, GS is the brand for the sophisticated

Do you know what the service cost is for GS springdrive?

@@widing19 how much is a GS spring-drive service? How often do they need to be serviced?

And learn English, too!

You can pick up a decent condition , full set , spring drive Grand Seiko around 2000 to 2500 usd. Just have to look a bit further than chrono24.

@@widing19 If I can afford the watch itself, I can afford the service it needs. :)

Funny that we have same watches! I've had my Bulova Precisionist brand new 10 years ago. It's accuracy was very good at that time. But 10 years in, and it is now at +129 seconds in 8 months, way worse than my Seiko Premier and Citizen EcoDrive (which is 6 years old and at +35 in 8 months). Grand Seiko's 9F caliber is a totally different story though. I have a special one adjusted to +/-5sec per year. It has been so accurate through this same 8 months testing period that at some point it started to seem to me that I am checking the accuracy of the reference time :)

@@taylantorin Very interesting that the Bulova lost accuracy after a certain time period. That watch is 16 jewels and is made of gears and pinions just like it’s spring wound cousins. The accuracy of spring wound watches will suffer as time goes on due to thickening oil and dirt. The same should be true for these watches as well. You might take it in to someone qualified to work on Pricisionist watches and have the movement cleaned, just like in a normal watch. I’m thinking that will solve your issue. Let me know how it goes.

What do you use your tool watch for. Rolex watches are jewellery not tool watches 😂

It is still a Seiko...... don't think it will go up as a Rolex!

@@ML-rn9gb Grand Seikos are made in a different factory from mainstream Seikos and to an entirely different set of standards. IMO, they're at least the equal of Rolex.

@@ML-rn9gb a Credor is still technically a Seiko and they're up there with the likes of AL&S, Vacheron and Patek.

check out the SBGT241 or SBGW235 with their beads of rice bracelet , gorgeous!

@@watchtherapy1068 it's not even close to Jubilee or Presidential

Exactly what I said😅

Or an Accuphase like I got ;)

Rolex just increased the retail prices by around 10%

Tudor fills that role in the market now. Proud owner of one here.

Of course it will be. The bubble will burst eventually, it's just the question of when. Until then, there are plenty other nice watches to choose from. A shame though, I do think Rolex makes the best tool watches, and it's a bit unfair to compare them to grand seiko as they are very different.

@@theLabradorite when you say "the bubble will burst" you mean the grey market premia might fall from 100%+ to 50%+ ?

@@ordoabchao4202 for the most sought after models, perhaps. But most will go down below retail, as it should be. Rolex watches aren't rare. They just choose to sell them to VIPs (aka flippers). Now, I don't know when that will happen, no one does. But a lot can change in a few years. When I bought my first Rolex about a decade ago, you could easily get a sub/gmt at retail or less.

Yeah lol

both is which :) as both are industrially made.

check Paul Thorpe Watch Dealer reaction video ... He is really hurt 🤣🤣🤣

Is that watch a GPS time synced watch ? If not, you won't get +/-0 seconds a year

@@JDDD33 incorrect

@PizzaPie well it must be radio controlled then, which means you will get +/-0 seconds a year ONLY when in a country that has the radio signals for the watch, else the quartz watch is rated at "Accuracy : Accuracy: ±15 seconds per month"

$60 replica in thailand. 😂👍

Lucky! my GS is 5 s/month

Great points - thanks!