Yes they are! But they are limited to 750w and can't ride on some major trails (PCT) and can't ride in the Wilderness. I use mine to put in cameras, tree stands, and haul the meet out.
@@BranDon-zt7bmI live in South Carolina and it depends on where you are and what rules apply to a given county . It would be nice if everyone was on the same page . As we all know , most e-bikes are easily programmed for class 1 with a push of the button . However , because they are capable of class three they are not considered legal .
No, everywhere motorized vehicles are not allowed, ebikes are not either...around me. This makes sense to me because the goal of the closure is for habitat. They are trying to limit access to these areas. I'm glad they do. I want to hunt without a bunch of people ruining it. If you want to go, hike in or bicycle in like we do.
Finishing off my hunt for 23. I have the Apex Pro and here are my tips. I bought it mainly for hunting Elk in the Big Horn Mts. I will say without a doubt that it tripled my hunting area. Where I used to spend hours stalking in on dirt track to reach hunting areas, I was able to all but minimize that time and maximizes actual hunting hours. I am a semi fit 64 year old with bad feet. I don't like giving Elk the advantage of hearing me come a mile away in a vehicle / side x side / atv. The bike is very quiet but not silent. Save your spine and invest in some sort of shock for the seat. if you don't have a solar option. buy the portable kit and a spare battery. BAR mitts are a very good add as well. Oh yeah, darkness in the mts is a reality. Better get a light or suffer the pain. I also used it for extending my whitetail range in the Wisconsin homestead and plan on using it for spring Turkey. In the end, well worth it and I love the fact I actually am getting that slight leg workout on the bike. yes, you do have to pedal.
Fantastic summary and great tips! Thanks for sharing. That aligns quite well with my experience in areas where I've been able to use a bike. You can cover a lot more ground than without it and you don't make all the racket of an OHV.
What’s Wyoming laws to drive a e bike down closed oFS roads that say no motorized vehicles? There are a lot in the bighorns I always hike them but was wondering a bout a bike
As for rule one, we hunt government land, not national forest. I asked the game warden about using my ebike. After me answering where I'll be at and stuff, he said it'll be ok. Got smart and made a slide for hauling deer out, it's all down hill from my deer stand so it'll do 18 mph with a deer. Kinda funny how ppl talked smack at the start of season, now they all talking about getting on.
@@theoutdoorempire just a triangle piece, 2 short pieces of pipe as big wide as a deer, and two longer pipes, just hang it off befind the seat pole. I go up hill to my hunting grounds so it's mostly down hill when I leave. Fat tire bike pulls it nicely since not but one or two small mud puddles there.
It's so much better to do your own build the new cyc x1 pro gen four will rip around just like a motorcycle. It's 5000w Mid-Drive I have the gen 3 and it's will get up to 57mph and go from zero to 40 in about 4 seconds. And that's the 3000w the 5000w will be way faster off the line and tip speed. When you buld your own You can put it on a much nicer frame then most of these ready made ebikes. And it will be lighter with a bigger better battery And you get much more power if you go with the cyc. Just something to always consider when buying an ebike.
I have a QuietKat Ranger. In the ECO mode using the PAS I get 15-20 miles when trail riding and not getting too crazy. Every now and then I’ll switch to BOOST or TRAIL mode when going up steeper hills. I bought an extra battery for just in case scenarios. I have yet to use it on any of my fishing excursions. I am 6’ 2” and weigh 200. I usually carry another 40 lbs of fishing, camping gear, and food. Would I use it for hunting? Not sure.
Missed one huge point, loaded down with gear: will you survive in the terrain you hunt. Answer for us: NO. We access our terrain via a super steep trail and dirt bikes also use that trail, only the craziest dirt bikers use it and they wear full body armor and light packs with essentially water only. If the area is old logging trails clean of deadfall this bike would be awesome
Very good point! I mainly day hunted turkey with it so I was relatively light on gear, but if you have a lot of gear or are in some gnarly terrain, it's not going to be as smooth of a ride as you might imagine.
I'm from Pennsylvania and my camp is in north Central Pa. surrounded by thousands of acres of game lands. I'm 70 now and will be 71by this archery season. I have neuropathy and plantars fasciitis keeps me from walking as I did several years ago in my younger days. You see that my mind is like I'm 30 but my body 70 going on 80. Lol . But because of the E bikes I can ride to most if not all the areas that I hunted as a young lad. So I applied for a special permit through the Pennsylvania game commission that alarm me on specified roads that I picked and was okayed by The game commission.
1.) In Nevada the BLM permits ATVs and EMTBs 2.) my 1UP bike rack easily holds my E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown e-bike (75 lbs. W/O batteries, 95 lbs with both batteries. 3.) I have a BLUETTI AC200 MAX lithium iron-phosphate battery CHARGED by an Off Grid TREL 220 watt electric blanket 4.) my bike has a 60 mile pavement range and 30 mile on trail range by my experience W/ mild pedaling) 5.) Of COURSE it isn't an e-motorcycle!
Nice! Great info, thanks for sharing the specifics. And that's pretty great range. That is one area that I was a bit disappointed on the fat tire ebikes I've tried so far, the real world range was significantly less than advertised. Cheers.
you can charge your ebike anywhere ,with a power pack often wrongly call " power generator" 12 volts 1000 ah with a converter 110 volts you can charge easily in camping where there is no power
Howabout dual 500 watt e-bikes? I have an AWD with two 500 watt hub motors with one on each wheel with the options to switch between AWD, RWD, and FWD while riding.
I've seen those and they look pretty awesome. How do you like it? I'm not sure how the rules would look at that. It probably depends on the place or the person checking at this juncture.
@@theoutdoorempire I use it a lot on rolling hills and section lines in the rural rancher areas of the upper Great Plains. I like it a lot! It’s built for snow, mud, sand, and climbing. I plan on traveling around the country to use it on different types of terrain. I did a 46 mile ride a few weekends ago with little weight other than the 3 liter bladder on my back. I still had a quarter battery left. I rarely use the throttle. I’ll use power assist and I don’t mind dipping into the pain zone to save battery.
Red flag on your range analysis is you said you kept it in mid gear. That's going to stress the drive train and run the battery which is probably why you weren't getting the range you wanted. Treat bicycles (electric or not) like anything with a gearbox. Start in 1st or 2nd and run up the gears as you pick up speed. Shift smart and you can leave assist in low and be fine for hours of riding, sipping power and calories.
Ya I tried that too quite a bit on those QuietKat bikes and when it was me and my gear weighing it down, 1st gear (mechanical or electric) didn't provide enough momentum to even maintain balance. Up hills where I was hunting, the lowest assist level had no effect whatsoever. The second assist level did a tiny bit, but barely enough to keep upright. The third assist level was the sweet spot where it didn't consume battery as fast as fourth or fifth, but it certainly helped when I needed it. I'm sure I could have ridden it more efficiently, but after trying it so many ways in so many environments, I'm not convinced that I could get to the middle of the advertised range even if I'm sweating my butt off the whole time with minimal assist. And if I do that, it sorta defeats the purpose of having an e-bike and I may as well ride my regular bike.
Couldn't you just buy a dual bike rack that is made to hold 2 50lb bikes but just use it to carry 1 ebike? Then you could still use it for the family's regular bikes when not hunting.
Thanks for the comment! I actually looked into that but the racks I looked at specified something around 60 pounds max PER bike, so I figured each rack may not be solid enough to tote 75 pounds around, especially bouncing down logging roads. But, if you removed the battery and crossed your fingers it may be just fine.
I look at an e-bike with a number of different purposes ! For hunting or utility on a farm requires a different setup ! Mountain biking or recreational biking requires other needs . You need a followup to this video !
Good info here. Thinking of getting electric bikes for the grankdids... They're teenagers, so peddling will not bother them a bit... Was thinking Hunting Bike because, you know... Bigger, Badder, Better... But when I was young, and even into my 50's 100 miles at a time was a common weekend. So that question about range knocked some sense into me... Glad I stopped by to watch your video. Have you done one on electric assist dirt bikes?
No electric dirt bikes yet, but I'd love to. And ya, 100 miles in a day is not a thing with these fat tire hunting ebikes to my knowledge. I think we might be a ways out from that still. Even with multiple batteries that's unlikely. But for getting to and from a stand, setting cameras, scouting, hauling meat out, they're pretty handy.
@@theoutdoorempire Maybe a mini turbine generator... They're making them so small nowaday's... The RC Model Airplane crowd are flying jets around with them now... A gallon of something, and get that extra mileage... What a time to be alive.
So! I got in a fight with the Forest Service over my ebike. Boiled down to brass tacks? The Park Service considers 750 watt or below non motorized. The Forest Service does not. So I could go to Yellowstone and ride my bike on a bike path no problem. But if I ride behind a forest service gate into a logging job with dozers and skidders? I am breaking the law….🙄
Indeed, all the different rules and regs from different jurisdictions is convoluted and frustrating at times. On the one hand it'd be nice if there was a federal rule that made it clear when and where you can use what type of ebikes anywhere. On the other hand, having individual agencies (plus states, cities, etc.) decide what to do on their own makes it more likely to have access to some places. But then it's super confusing and even conflicting at times. Not sure what the solution is. Thanks for sharing your experience!
The grizzly by arielrider goes up the steepest hills you can ride thought deep sand in the snow its 2-wheel drive it has 2 1000w motors 2 52v batteries I'm 170lbs and I'm towing over 100lbs for 20 miles at a speed of 20 miles a hour and the batteries are still 65% when I get home I'm sure it can probably tow more weight this bike is solid its 105lbs I'm going to test it and see if it can pull 160lbs thats the total weight of 2 trailers + all the camping gear
Here says no tires bigger than 21" on public hunting areas. Gane warden that knows me laughed when I should up with my normal 29 inch bike body and had 20"tires on it, fat tires. Like I told him, 10 mph shouldn't be to fast, he laughed and said ok, but don't come out with bigger tires.
My question to you, if you can afford Ebike why didn't you buy an extra battery ? Or at least have a solar charger ... Harbor Fright has solar chargers
I hear what you're saying, but an extra battery from some of these companies can cost an extra $1000, then you've got extra weight to cart around if you want it with you when you need it. Honestly, I don't find that a very enticing proposition. It would be nice to have one at base camp though.
Will your electric forest service is wrong because federal law states that if it is a 750 watt motor or less it is not classified as a motorized vehicle It is classified as a bicycle
I've never heard of something so ridiculous If you have a 750 w e-bike it's equal to 1hp I have one I can't even rip out with the bike And by the way what state was this
I'm in Idaho, but these same rules (absence of specific rules) apply to federal U.S. Forest Service lands. I wasn't really bothered by it though, there are still plenty of places to ride.
Yea these things migjt work for flat-landers. I live in western nc and the mountains are only avout 5500ft but theyre straight up and down...this would be $6000+ waste of money
I hear ya, they aren't as effective in steep terrain. It isn't exactly flat out here in Idaho either and I've found that even a 750W motor can help up a steep logging road, but not without effort.
@@jasonhong2512 not sure about other places but Arkansas just says they follow Federal guidelines. Game warden here told me my bike is legal on all public land in the state.
You can buy a trailer for that from some ebike companies. And at SHOT Show I actually saw a unicycle e-bike wheel barrow thing that you walk behind but it can carry a ton of gear or a harvested deer. It's called the Pack Wheel.
Rather, I could and did, but was surprised to encounter so many restrictions and limitations. I wanted others to have that information because ebike companies don't like to talk about those not-so-fun facts.
Hub drive bikes have NOTHING to do with sprockets and chains. Therefore gears have NO affect on torque unless pedaling. take chain off hub motor and it still goes! Mid drive have everything to do with chains and sprockets aka gears. Put the correct front and rear sprocket on the bike and you can get one to climb a tree! with ANY watt motor!
True, if they're classified (class 1 or 2). But many of the hunting e-bikes from QuietKat, Rambo, or Bakcou, for example, are not classified or governed, particularly if they have a 1000W motor or better.
@@lesteryarbrough2403 Sure, I maybe should have worded my comment differently. I apologize for that. My reasons for not mounting the gun horizontally are 1) my primary use for my bike/gun combo is on shooting ranges where it is not allowed by course rules for safety. And 2) I also don't like it horizontally in hunting situations for the same reason (but all situations are different and if it works for you then don't listen to me). Also I personally just don't like the gun horizontally across the handlebars because I feel like it it not very well protected from branches, etc... And it can also make the bike wider than it needs to be with regards to going down narrow trails and near obstacles etc... At the end of the day I really can only speak to my experience with my shotguns mounted vertically on the front of the bike on the sporting clays course and I like how it works. To each his own though...
I hear ya on the classified part, but even that depends on the jurisdiction. In my town any ebike is regarded differently than a bicycle and therefore can't use all the same trails, class 1 or not.
Those things look horrible! Put some tassels on the handlebars and slap on a rainbow sticker on the side why don't you! What the heck? Get yourself an actual Electric bike like the Sur Ron Ultra or Storm Bee.
Far too many rules nowadays I live in England and are government wants to control every aspect of are life's its gotten to the point where its ridiculous I always use my ebike to go hunting I have heart disease and wouldn't be able to go hunting if it wasn't for the ebike ✌️👍👊
Just depends on where. There are places you can, but often they're the same places you can drive cars or motorcycles. But yes, we have a weird country. I like it all the same!
There's usually around my house. I even had one run into my house for the door was open. Some people are having to go find them and I have them running into my house 🤣
lol you can’t have all the fun ! the more research then I think I’m going to buy an electric dirt bike style seem more comfortable seat wise , plus I’ll be sticking to 2 tracks / FS roads . Gets me in to shed / turkey country when roads are drifted in with snow .
Sounds like ignorant officers for number 1. There is no law that make an ebike a motorcycle. If it’s not explicitly listed as illegal, it’s legal. Don’t ask permission from people who don’t know better
@@yo9758 not true. Every motorcycle law has a displacement stipulation. It dictates what license is needed. They’ve had to go back and add watt output limits of electric bikes.
