filmed circa 2005. camera: brian scully. interviewer: gearóid fitzgibbon. edited by gearóid fitzgibbon. In this clip, Ronnie reflects on the decline of localised Irish culture, and the move to a more homogenized society.
Its very sad but I think many smaller countries and communities are having similar problems.Globalisation and Macdonaldisation takes a huge toll on localised cultures. I grew up in County Meath in the 70s and 80s, going to Dublin shopping was like going to a different planet. RIP Ronnie you were a great character and genuine human being.
Imagine living 100 years ago. If you wanted to travel you had to use a horse and when the horse got tired you’d go and rest and drink ale at the local inn. You would hear amazing stories from people with different lives than you. Nowaday almost everyone has the same life and has had the same experiences.
He'd be ashamed of Ireland now. Pay attention. He's talking about globalization and it's happening everywhere now. These rootless types just want the whole world to be one big depthless cosmopolitan monoculture. I can relate on some level, I'm from the rural Mid-Atlantic, the Delmarva region of the US. The local culture and accents are all long gone there now. 😞 Many younger people probably have no idea it even existed, once upon a time. Now I live in Boston, and it's the same exact thing here. The old romantic Boston is no more, all gone. Long gone. Ronnie Drew may be Ireland's own, but he was loved all over the world. There will be never be another like him, Luke, Ciaran, and the fellas in the Dubliners! God bless and keep them all.
@@alpirl2921 By "native" what exactly do you mean? Certainly not the aboriginal tribal nations, as they were literal nations unto themselves. The US was initially a protestant Whig republic, very Anglo in it's origins and traditions, yes (Christmas wasn't even widely recognised or celebrated there until the late nineteenth century). And yes, that has all but disappeared. The original idea though was intended to be a series of mini nations, hence "united states". People always forget that.
no he's talking about culture change, if you think we're the same as we where back when the vikings landed in dublin your being more than a bit silly. culture evolves, it's the very nature of it to change. not saying it was for the better, just saying cultures change and grow and evolve, it's just what they do, best of luck to ya.
The stories carry on through the struggles of all people. Hold close to your soul and keep well with your friends and family down the line. Irish language and music will carry on for as long as folks struggle to live.
Ronnie is 100% right , 2 thirds of the young people speak with a twisted English/American celebrity type accent and they have never being outside Ireland, the Kardashian generation
culture is a creature in itself, ever changing, like language, it's sad in a way but an unavoidable reality, we grow and change, not always for the better, but change is inevitable. Ronnie RIP, a very wise man indeed.
@@paul479 yet here we are. not wiped out and still irish and not living on reservations, really can't believe you compared the irish with the native americans, that's just piss poor and really bad taste. we've had it bad in the past but nothing like they did. btw some of our own took part in that north american change. the only thing radical here is yourself young man. but seeing as you chose the word radical, immigrants in ireland make up 13% of our population, f**king radical hahahahaha get a grip.
@@paul479 what is it ya want paul ? a xenophobic inbreed society that looks backwards and inwards, we are who we are, if you live here and hold an irish passport you're irish, what more do ya want? ffs the vikings came here and gave us a lot of who and what we are, should we reject that too? how far back do we go before you're a f**king invader? look in 500 years we'll probably be all cyborgs and live in a virtual reality and look back at our flag waving idiot monkey relations called humans and laugh at how small we thought.
@@paul479 you and i my confused friend will not get to see it out, we'll be long gone and others will inherit the country/planet and i hope they do a better job than we have.
@@paul479 ah stop, go watch a comedy, people like you are radicalized so easy. you're already hating people you don't even know. i'll bet if we go back a few generations your an outsider yourself.
I am the first person in my family born outside of Dublin, and I would hear all the stories about Dublin in the "rare auld times", but after going there quite a few times and living there for a while I came to the conclusion that Irish community's outside of Ireland like the community that I was raised, an Irish community In Birmingham, that was more like the Dublin of old than Dublin is itself now, as the pubs were always packed with characters and musicians playing and lots of lies being told, (that just means having the craic), But in Dublin now your not allowed to even sing in most of the pubs and the atmosphere is not there But that culture has also died in the Irish community's in England now aswel, I would say because most of the people born in Ireland have now died or are old men/women, plus most of these areas the pubs have gone and they are often now Muslim communities
Most, if not all, of the way people live is born of necessity. It's a reaction to the way things are. To give an example, Butlins holiday camps used to be a big thing for families. They were THE place to go on your holidays for most families of relatively small means. But then air travel became cheap enough that ordinary people could afford it, and many went to Spain instead. Butlins didn't completely die out, but no longer did people go in anything like the numbers they used to, and people probably never will unless circumstances change such that air travel is no longer affordable, and fat chance of that so long as Ryanair are in business. They're never going to go Butlins in as big of numbers as they did out of sentimentality for the old days. There has to be a necessity. And so it goes with anything that was traditional. The first step to killing a tradition is to remove the necessity that gave rise to it in the first place. The second step is to watch the rest unfold.
When I was growing up I was given a smack for using Dublin slang or calling my Mom "Ma". Self hating Irish women reading Hello magazine and obsessing over American culture are the reason for the downfall, truly a shame.
He makes a great point but with weak examples. The contrasts between Hiberno-English and Standardised English were that Hiberno-English retained both influences from the Irish language and errors in the English language. (E.g. Them is good vs they’re good). It was only natural that this would correct itself given how times have changed. The solution would either entail a conservation of the Irish language influence and regional errors or a promotion of the Irish language itself as a means of national expression. The latter seams more practical to me.
Most of the errors were in fact due to the Irish speaking English with the same structure as Gaelic. Eg. 'Give me that, will ya' hiberno Irish versus 'would/will you give me that'
I still love Dublin, but i get cross every time i see half the population staring at their phones, its bad enough doing it standing still i think, but then you have the ones who completely ignore everyone else and walk down the path and texting at the same time and i never get out of their way; its so ignorant. And peoples manners is just so shite and a lot of my generation which is 27 and some younger and slightly older are really low in character, they don't communicate with you properly its just prehistoric small mouth noises and everyone's wearing the same clothes and the same shoes with no socks, wheres that at?. I like talking to older Dubs, much more polite, way better sense of humor, they enjoy a chat, and they have manners and decency and appreciate a good conversation. Now its people wearin Hijabs and silly naive college girls with green hair and limp wristed lads with nothing interesting to say. One of the only old traditions still around is drinking, but if you think that's all you have to do, then you're missing the point.
I bet if you go out of the city you will get a different result.. But I can tell you I've seen this at bars and at work in the U.S. and without cell phones in hand.. The only thing anyone can really do is drop any expectations of how people want to live. At least that's how I look at it. No sense wasting my time with anyone who can't laugh at life or carry on a conversation
thanks for the comment. although, Im not sure why the slighting mention of hijabs and gays. Most of the artists we know and love are gay, past or present, so give that over! :-)
@@eyebrightirl Gays?, i said nothing about gays. Hijabs, well i stand by that, its Ireland, not the middle east, we're not allowed to do what we do in their countries so why are we so passive here?, okay, sometimes its better to be neutral and wu wei, but its our country and we don't cover our women up, suppressing the feminine is as old as time, its old caveman shit. Hijabs are okay, i think i meant Burkas. But i'm still no advocate of religion, we did just fine as a nation without it pre 6th to 7th century.
@@irishelk3 well ur just islamophobic? why mention women who choose to wear a hijab in this particular conversation? I always wonder why you people in western countries don’t realize that everyone accepts nuns for their choice to cover up and dress modestly and only discriminates against muslim women...
This is not true. Ireland has culture. I hope that Irish men take care of young girls and young men. Of course people have intergrated in Europe and Ireland has won, the whole of Ireland won and that is what it's all about.
