I'm a compositor with 10 years experience working on films like First Man, which won the VFX Oscar this year. The "secret" to Hollywood's green screen work is an extensive roto/paint team. But in terms of keying here's some tips: 1 - denoise the footage so there's no dancing noise 2 - key what's called a "core" matte. This is a matte just for the inside of the object/actor to fill in all the holes 3 - key an "edge" matte. This is a soft matte to capture all the detail 4 - key sections of your footage, isolating them with roto mattes. You generally don't one-click key, you'd key the head/hair with one keyer then additional ones & build up layers of your alpha that you can merge together later 5 - paint your edges back to retain motion blur. This part sucks, but it's neccessary 6 - only focus on the greens near your subject, select an area of hues instead of individual pixels 7 - despill your footage separately to your keying. make your keys on the denoised footage, then mask the despilled footage by the alpha. This helps with better edges and more precise colour management 8 - don't be afraid to use roto masks to fill in gaps of your mask. Seriously, good roto is the key (pun intended) to good compositing If you guys have questions on how we do all this stuff for real, let me know!
@@maximilianullrich2829 Light wrap has no effect on keying an image, only to help integrate a foreground with a background. Re: light wrap - less is more.
Great tips! It’s hard to find good, advanced techniques taught so clearly. I would love to see a part two where you guys try to key those “wrinkled, uneven” green screens you showed us at the beginning. Keep up the good work!
Can you please make a Copycat Friday of Chop Suey? :) I would love to learn to make those transitions....... Keep up your good work, Thanks! Oh, I forgot...... *COOL VIDEO, DUDE*
Wow! Amazing tips, thank you so much guys! BTW can you please do a #CopycatFriday of Dj Snake's "Taki Taki"? It'd be amazing, specially the laser from the eyes, the color grading or the laser whips 🙏
Some green screens melt with iron. The best thing to use is a steamer. If you don't have one rent one for like 20 bucks. Get a nice green screen and wrinkles won't be too big of a problem
Major Hollywood production films use rotoscoping that's why they don't care about green screen so much. In Avengers the production instructed the vfx companies not to use keying, just rotoscoping... even for the shots filmed against green screen. They use green screen keying just for the basic core separation and then rotoscoping is taking over. But whenever they do use keying, they apply multiple passes and complex masking...
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All those imperfections are absolutely annoying and make the job so much harder, but they have to shoot these huge scenes fast. It's a combination of many rotos and combining a bunch of keys. Also "making up" edges as last resort. Different keyers and methods of keying are used such as different chromas keyers, luminance keyers, red, blue, or green channel keying individually all Frankensteined together if needed. There are tricks but not really secrets to how it's done besides a lot of work, but hey you get paid for it! Love your channel and hopefully that helps a little? Oh also red is opposite of green so it's far easier to track opposite color markers. You have to paint or roto those out
That was actually some very good tips Jordy! Yeah, I don't get it either, why Hollywood doesn't care about getting the green screen perfect. Well they are masters at what they do, so I guess they know how it works... for the clips they have green clothes etc. wouldn't it be much easier to just go for a blue screen? Thanks for reccomending KINETEK, that channel looks really good :-)
As backlight I sometimes use a faint magenta colored light filter. That suppresses the green also. Also, some guys have a monitor facing the talent. Most often the one-man-bands do so. Remember to dial down the saturation of that monitor. Especially when the talent is wearing glasses. The green of the monitor will affect the lighting of the talent. So, having it black and white will help big time. These two things saved my life quite a few times.
@@CinecomCrew It kind of makes a lot of sense... Magenta is at the opposite site of the spectrum. that was my idea years ago. The magenta needs to be slightly pink... or faint magenta. A bit subtle... otherwise it would be too obvious. The funny thing is that I have seen others doing this as well. Makes sense, Toch? Of niet? 😉
The reason why they don't really care about wrinkles is that keying is not a one key process they have different keys for each shade or if its a body they would have a different one for the head and one for the body than one for the legs. And remember the green bazooka in Godzilla? Well, they probably would have rotoed that. Keying is not as easy as a one-click process you also roto in keying people don't know that they just think "Oh its a green screen that means no roto' well their wrong. Also, the reason they have red markers on the green screen is that it puts out contrast from the green screen. Green markers would get lost in the screen due to motion blur. And they would just roto out the red markers remember keying also includes roto.
Jordy, love your videos and all but pleeeeeeease if you say "did", you cannot follow with past tense. "How did they pulled off..." etc. I noticed that you say it in almost every video, so just take a note ;). Anyway I still do love your videos and it certainly helped me to take filmmaking to another level, so keep it up. :D
I don’t have after affects or anything by a adobe and I have canon powershot sx420 IS and still just barely learning how to use it what should I do also I don’t have a green screen I don’t have a lot or money
Use Davinci Resolve, is free and you can do anything with it. From Fast-Editing to Color Grading, Compositing like After Effects and Audio Work. You don't need a green screen to do stuff with filming, there is plenty of stuff to do without it. First learn basic Editing with Davinci Redolve. Then how to make better videos with Audio, Framing your Subject, Color Grading and just continue from there.
Today , i just bought a 10/20 feet greenscreen,so this video is just what i need😀 Thanks a lot guys!!! I'm a student of your Adobe class,and i wanted to thank you for all the knowledge out there that is shared with us!❤
@@CinecomCrew Thanks for the answer :) Well, they have the big bucks, so it's understandable. At least we have something pretty good available for us on a "home" budget :)
Hey that was some good tips. I'm gonna try to shoot a green screen video tomorrow. I'm having problems with....everything. Also my editor don't have all that fancy stuff so that sucks. I'm still trying though. Thanks 👍
@@TiktikiMusic no they don't...sometimes yes but not everytime...just look it up..but another question for you how did they key Gomorrha and Nebula when they're in the same scene?
I HAVE A VIDEO IDEA. How to re-apply REALISTIC motion blur to footage shot with high shutter speeds! Could be useful in green screen applications. If you could work the math out when it's about footage shot in a variety of shutter speeds and frame rates, that would be a KILLER video!
Waaaaayyyyyyyyyyy much better than Xmen Dark Phoenix!!! We can see in that movie the green screens around actors almost all the time VFX were used.... Great Job Cinecom.net
I'm nuts about your modesty man! After more than ten years you say "I get amazed from Holywood scene". But some people I see claim edit black belt only after two or three months getting familiar with Premiere pro environment! 😅🤷♂️🤦♂️
I think Hollywood productions spend more time Rotoscoping, so they are not doing it in one click. Great tips though. I LOVE the color picker tip, and will now use that EVERY time!!
I think I know their secret. Making of is filmed with another camera. The camera used in the film is a professional one that separates the subject from the background very well. This creates a bokeh effect. This makes the green background that has many shadows to be a single shade. That's why red traking points are used because they are more visible in the blurry background. Am I right Cinecom.net?
Would you like to teach me Ghost Rider burning skull effect. I easily did it in photoshop but but i have no idea how to do it in after effect looking realistic better than ghost Rider Movie. Also I have only used AE for logo animation only so I dont have any other idea. :(
I'm new to this. Why and how are multiple tracking points used on the green screen? I'm having trouble with the concept. I get about as far as this video where the markers are used but how does it work with moving action? I take it you film what will become the background separately as if the subject was in it. Then combine it with the green screened subject you shot?
I'm no expert by any means but most of the time you would do a garbage matte. So would just start off masking an area close to the subject and roto if needed then select a shade of green within that masked area. This way you don't include any parts of the green screen that are creased or a different shade of green. Also same thing would be done with tracking markers, they'd just be manually masked out if needed but they probably place them in a spot where the actors don't cover them so masking is easy. Manual rotoscoping is probably done quite a lot too and they just use the green screen to help as a head start.
The red tape used by filmmaker is to make sure that the actor be in the right spot. And maybe they just removed it with the same technique that we use tu remove unwanted object from the video we create. This is just my opinion, maybe I could be wrong.
not sure why the Red tracking points but if i was to guess I would say it has something to do with the way red and green are tied to gather in the eye. like how people can suffer from Red/Green color blindness.
I’ve been studying professional vfx and I can tell you right out of the start that to get a Hollywood perfect key you’re not using after effects. It takes normally multiple keyers and adjustments to get a “perfect” key
1:15 seriously me forcing my friend to do weird stuff in front of my new green screen. Wig, airsoft gun and all. lol Love the channel and accent. Subscribed.
Its there high quality camera bro that's why they are able to pull off green screen so easy. they got great sensor that are easy to be red by ur computer.
