I do Muay Thai but Im very heavy handed and punch like a boxer...almost every sparring partner has issues with me because the way I move and through my punches just doesnt make sense to them. Its a great advantage.
4:39 I was saying that for years. Kickboxers (probably not in the highest leagues ofc) fight like turn-based RPG combats. I have trained in 3 different kickboxing gyms (in Turkey) they all burst out their combinations and then step back for defense. No feints, no parries, nobody punches, no roll and counters.
A real good counter to the pull back right hand is quickly rolling back and throwing a left hook on them as they try to throw the right hand. When practicing the pull back it's also good to practice slipping down to your right just after pulling back in case you need additional evasion. Sometimes a full duck is needed and if you're facing a southpaw and they step outside your left and come with a one-two you can duck their right hand and pivot inside (right foot wheels to the right) and you can throw a left hook when your right foot plants again and they haven't re-aligned toward you yet.
I've been focusing hard on the defense during combos, i think I'm getting pretty good at it but the thing i noticed is like you say, i throw one or two punches instead of combos. So i know what i need to do now, thanks man
Not taking the step with the jab and quick clenches with shoves world pretty well against boxers. They watch for familiar movements to anticipate your strike. Move differently.
I feel like you stated my experience word for word. I trained fir Muay Thai for about 9 months but never really sparred like that and no boxing sparring and I was getting starched by people with boxing experience who didn’t train it made no sense until I got used to all ode these factors he’s talking about, boxing sparring not being pretty much turn based and the fact that pressure and dirty fighting works are both things I learned through real hand experience and it’s so cool to see @gabriel varga had the same expiriences
Question! Would you adapt your stance when sparring boxers, or would you stay in your kickboxing/muaythai stance? I plan to train at a boxing gym before my next fight, and I figured I’d wanna stay in my Muay Thai stance - cause practice builds habits
Ik you’re asking Varga but I’ll give my two cents. Change your stance when boxing. If you stay too tall like you’re Thai boxing and you keep your body square, you’re going to get eaten up, especially at the body, and with your knees being less bent you’ll have difficulty adjusting to the footwork, angles, and constant pressure that is just a given when you’re boxing. You also won’t have as much power in your punches. I think staying in your Thai stance would ultimately undermine the point of training boxing to begin with. It’d be like a boxer training Muay Thai and keeping their stance and not throwing any kicks, not clinching, not throwing any knees, and not looking for any dumps. It just won’t work. Just train boxing as though you’re training boxing, then see what you can apply from it to Muay Thai and kickboxing. Think critically about it, and also some things will naturally carry over and be beneficial for you. After training boxing I always found I was better able to gauge the distance between my opponents punches, especially their jab. You can also apply making more angles to your style for Muay Thai too.
anything below the size of a medium sized dog, although with the dog it depends how determined it is to rip you apart. if the dog is not about serious business, a very hard kick could make it tuck tail and back off.
Although I’m a huge fan of K-1 I did both boxing and muay-thai training. Boxing immensely helped to improve my punching, defense, feeling of punching distance so when I sparred in muay-thai I easily outpunched my partners: muay-thai punching is very poor. For me the problem was to combine punches and kicks and learn to defend against kicks so when I became good at boxing I concentrated solely on muay-thai. P.S. boxing sparring is harsh - always had a headache after rough punches so for me it’s a big con.
Some muay thai gyms go pretty rough with the sparring as well but you're right boxing gyms usually go way harder which leads to cte, neck and retina issues down the line
I can vouch for this too. I started training kickboxing first, so I was used to sparring at a certain intensity. However I started going to a boxing gym with the same intensity, and all the coaches and training partners would get mad at me if I didn’t treat it like a fight 😂.
Because of boxing being refined down to just two weapons your forced to develop many overlooked skills that other martial arts dont focus on, head movement, advanced footwork, angles, pattern recognition etc. All these things are present in other styles but not to the extent boxing is. It would do anyone good to learn atleast a little bit of western boxing
Good to learn but bad for picking up habits. I done boxing before MT and I'd constantly get eaten by legs kicks because I was trying to use footwork too much and in sparring as soon as people noticed by head moving habits I'd slip into kicks and knees. Even know I knew I shouldn't be slipping straight punches the training I done in boxing made it my instant reaction. Took me a best part of a year to relearn my defence.
1. Attack the body, but not exclusively 2. Pull the head back then forward with counter cross over their jab 3. Think defense even on offense as can be countered 4. If you you throw combinations, something will land, build confidence in the hands and not just single shots 5. People dont like pressure, make life uncomfortable, push them to the ropes
"Boxers don't like pressure." .....That all depends on the boxer you spar with or fight. Down here in Texas, if you go forward, the Mexican fighters will go forward, too. They don't care, because they believe that they can out brawl you. Many times they can, because that is their specialty. They love it tight and nasty, and they will literally be laying on you will battering your kidney and stomach area followed up with a hook to the head or an uppercut. I fought this way during All Armed Forces. It helped me get to the finals. However, I still lost to Army in the finals. He was good at fighting this way, too. I "European boxed" more when I fought in Nationals in Colorado. I was stationed in Germany, and I trained with the German boxers. They fight that European style. The boxers who fight this style tend to like to keep their distance and use their legs more. They like to go "in out" more when striking. Don't get me wrong, they do love their flurries. They just don't like to set camp like the Mexican style boxers do. My German coach used to call it long boxing. I will admit that they were slick, and I had to watch myself. However, these boxers did not like fighting up really close. So, they did their best to get off the ropes or out of the corner. If I fought/spared a Mexican style fighter, it would be different. They would be like, "Come closer! Lets keep sparing/fighting this way!" They do this because they believe that they can outlast you in the flurry of punches and in the fight or sparing session. However, their weak point (as in general-there are exceptions), is that they do not like boxing. They want to brawl. They don't like thinking too much. They just want to set camp, lay on your shoulders, and brawl. So, it is easy to pick them apart IF you can keep them from you. You need to have strong legs and great endurance for that. Because, in the first round, it's easy to box these fighter, but if you are not in AWESOME shape, you'll tire out in the 2nd round. I'm just talking about my time in amateur boxing, because I never went pro in boxing. However, I believe that it works the same in the pros, too. Look at Julio César Chávez Sr. in his prime. He would keep brawling and tire out most of his opponents. If a boxer gave him pressure, he wouldn't have considered it pressure "on him". Because, he knew they would fold...This is just one of many examples.
I fought professionally in Muay Thai and switched to boxing. The biggest change is no doubt head movement. The Thais will always scold you for too much head movement because it's easy to slip straight into a knee or kick and get KO'd. Boxing is constant head movement all the time
@@dannystalford5029 I wonder what made you change to boxing, most muay thai fighters I've met only ever go in a straight line forwards or backwards, have zero footwork and awful boxing technique, speed and power. Seems like only the elite muay thai fighters dont lack those qualities but anyrhing from amateur to decent pro do
@@user-qn6fw8fg4b most Thai fighters u met aren't good boxers? I mean no shit lol. They aren't boxers. You don't need fancy footwork or huge punching power to break an eye socket or cheekbone with an elbow or knee. Its a totally different skillset. One hard low kick would put most boxers on the floor for an hour. Why did I switch to boxing? Mostly because of long term health. All the pro Thais I trained with were retiring at 22-25 years old with injuries. I had a string of fights where I received very deep cuts. Also saw some horrific injuries on other fighters (nose basically separated from the face by an elbow). I grew up in taekwondo karate and boxing, so switching to boxing was a natural choice. I started muay Thai because I believe its the toughest combat sport on the planet bar MMA, and I wanted to prove I could fight at a decent level
@@dannystalford5029 have you noticed all the best muay thai fighters from Thailand are getting their belts taken by western fighters with sharp boxing skills? Clearly they do need to improve their boxing
Our boxing coach puts a lot of emphasis on defense during offense. If the non striking hand is screwing around it’s an invitation to get countered. Good boxers are always looking for exactly those openings.
Can you please do a breakdown video of th Lhw champ Artem vahkitov he’s absolutely amazing his boxing and kicks are phenomenal please do a break down of him
I've been thinking about checking out the local boxing gym for a while, just to see how different it is from the boxing classes at my Muay Thai gym. Looking forward to your sparring footage!
I do muay thai. Whenever the opponent does the pullback i just clip them with a low kick or a body punch, usually with some venom. This stops them doing the pullback most of the time. Their legs and body are still within range despite their head movement so it leaves an opening. Thnx for this vid btw
This! Also, if they do that philly shell with the more sideways stance, the front leg is there to eat up. Look square in his eyes and deliver a vicious leg kick. Learned that from Omari Boyd.
I do Muay Thai but Im very heavy handed and punch like a boxer...almost every sparring partner has issues with me because the way I move and throw my punches just doesnt make sense to them. Its a great advantage.
The way I used my jab was a minimum of 3 strong jabs stepping forward quickly. From there a 3 punch combination. This kept them from pulling away and kept them from counters.
This channel is gold for people who train striking. Me and my friend had our first two amateur muay thai fights this past month and we watched a ton of these videos. I actually felt that it helped me a lot in dealing with the nerves. You’re doing a really good job Gabriel!
I really like your explanations. It shows the level of your experience. And yes I would really like to see videos when you spar, or do pads or heavybag.
I just started boxing about nine months ago and had my first boxing last week. I’m on the shorter side so it was a bit humbling. Would love to see some sparring footage of you boxing Gabriel. Really good tips!
A couple of years back I was dabbling in some boxing (I have trained a lot of kickboxing and mma, practically no boxing at that point) and I went in to spar a guy who the coach was telling to "do the Tyson" ie. staying very low and slipping side to side, using the side motion to set up hooks and the up and down to set up uppercuts and body shots. Up until that point I hadn't seen much in boxing that was outside of my comfort zone, all my sparring sessions had just felt like kickboxing without kicks I guess. Once this guy was in front of me just disappearing and reappearing it really messed with my head, I couldn't use feints to gage his reaction because he wasn't in front of me and when I would step back to reset even a little bit, he would gain ground on me until I was pushed up against the ropes. One of the experienced guys told me to plant my feet and fire hard shots in front of me without worrying as much about landing and that evened things up a bit. Everyone sees and thinks the understand that peak-a-boo style but until I had a very amateur imitation of it in front of me I had no idea how much it deconstructs your basic assumptions about striking. This in turn gave me a greater appreciation that martial arts techniques that look simple on the screen can be having all kinds of effects you're not aware of until you've experienced it up close
Not just hyperbole -- I profoundly agree with every example discussed in this video because they are all conclusions I've naturally arrived at myself. One I need to improved is integrating defense into everything, as he mentioned.
Think defense during offense, That's the key in boxing, to hit and not getting hit, that's the goal in boxing. Every time when you're on the offense, you have to be ready for your opponent countering you, always be alert, and anticipate when he's gonna strike, always be ready to roll, bob and weave or slip the punches and counter back with your own punches. Always have an exit strategy after you finished your combos. As for Combos? Take a look at Mike Tyson, the high volume combinations he fired at his opponents in the 80s, they were a beauty, from the body to the head, eventually, one or two will land and he hit them all with bad intentions.
How do you go about sparing with boxes or other fighters? Do you just call a local gym? Do you sign waivers? Do you need to pay them? Thanks I it will be nice to see some of your box only sparing videos.
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@@tstjohn777 jabs are not always meant to be hard or forward moving...in thai boxing, they can guage distance, slow an advancing fighter, or set up leg attacks
I love striking and as such I always eye the body amd for open doors to toss a liver shot in or a hard opponent side right hard hit to his ribs,,,, when they keel over or are bent over from that hit upper cut to the snot box
I do muay thai but Im a big boxing fan and fancied doing some boxing training just for fun but until now, never really thought that it would be valuable to my muay thai training - thanks for another useful vid, Gabriel - God bless
@@GabrielVargaOfficial sir i watch your video about eyesight and you say you talk with the highest level guy, who the highest level guy look at the chest?
