You can absolutely grow citrus fruit from seed and they will definitely produce fruit, but the fruit will always be genetically different to the parent plant. What you end up with can vary widely depending on what the parent plants were.
@@lolcatz88 this dude doesn't have a clue what his talking about. the reason they are grafted is because in some cases the type of tree that produces fruit that is better to eat isn't as hardy as other types. so they graft it onto stronger root stock
@@lolcatz88 Sometimes they're close to the parent, sometimes the fruit sucks. Taste, size or amount could be all wrong and so on. I have seen plenty of youtubers plant avocados from seeds and claim that the fruit is really good. It's a risk but it can also work out just fine if you're doing it more for the decoration and getting a 90% (or whatever) chance on top of that of getting tens of kilograms of edible avocados is all a bonus. My parents have an apricot tree that sustained weather damage and the grafted part died. The rootstock pushed up a new stem and now ~5 years later there are apricots on the tree. They're sorta tiny and a little bit on the not-so-sweet and slightly-astringent side but they're perfectly fine for making jam. Even the hardier rootstock produced quite passable apricots. I'm sure the "noble" graft would have produced better apricots but meh, whatever if it's a single tree in a backyard.
@@lolcatz88 Not always. True Mandarin oranges (the species Citrus reticulata, but not hybrids sold as tangerines, Clementines, Sweeties, etc) produce ONLY genetically maternal fruits - the seed of any fruit on the tree produces only seedlings that are exactly like the mother tree (It's a characteristic of the reticulata species). The pollen of C. reticulata varieties (luckily) will pollinate other citrus species; produce hybrids. But I don't think it is possible (outside of a lab) to cross two C. reticulata varieties ( there are about three or four I know of).
I've grown dragon fruit, guava, grapefruit, mango etc. from seed. Sometimes you get good fruiting trees and sometimes you don't. No matter what the outcome, it's always enjoyable. If I ended up with a good fruiting tree, then it's a bonus.
One thing everybody gets wrong when talking about seedling trees is saying, "The fruit will be unedible." This is very rarely the case. The fruit is edible. you're just more likely not to enjoy the flavor or texture. I know it sounds like a small nit pick, but I'm so tired of people freaking out over wild or homegrown apples, paires, and avocados thinking they're poisonous. There's a difference between low quality fruit and inedible fruit. Also, avocados need a pollination partner.
True! This is why apple butter and cider got popular. Directly edible apples were a later innovation. The apples Johnny appleseed planted were most likely inedible.
If nobody started fruiting trees from seed, they would no longer discover the GOOD different varieties varieties that can improve the gene pool of a species and make it more resistant. Remember the banana disease that has sent growers scrambling to find resistent varieties that are also tasty. This could happen with any fruit varieties because there are millions of clones and grafts of only a few individual plants. I have started trees from seed and my only regret is that I may not live long enough to try all their fruits. I realize that space may be an issue when devoting a big chunk of a small garden to a tree that might never feed you but it is possible to get lucky too and the satisfaction and gratitude one feels is worth having had a few misses.
he's completely wrong about avocado too. They aren't true to seed, but 95% of them taste good when grown. Apples on the other hand have much worse chance because they have crab apples.
I agree. If you want to know what bananas used to taste like before they were completely wiped out then get artificial banana flavor. That's what they used to taste
@@arloalps6215 you can still buy those variety. They aren't completely gone. The fungus killing bananas is still all over we just need to mass produce more resistant varieties. We lost about 80% of Orange production in the last 10 years as well, so expect those to be gone in next 10 years.
@@gg-gn3re Apples grown from seed are still fine if you don't intend to eat them fresh (IE: if you're making cider, dehydrated fruit, or a conserve). I have 2 apple trees grown from seed.
@@Samu2010lolcats heck, a lot of them are perfectly acceptable fresh, as long as you're not expecting a Fuji or Gala or whatnot. But I've never met an apple that wasn't good for sauce, jelly, or apple butter.
he's completely wrong about avocado too. They aren't true to seed, but 95% of them taste good when grown. Apples on the other hand have much worse chance because they have crab apples.
@@nowannabeonthis8522 yes they're edible. he's full of it. The worst trees "from seed" are apples, which almost always produce "crab apples" which people consider "inedible" however you can still eat them even though they taste terrible and might give you a stomach ache lol
I also didn't understand the avocado one. When my family bought a house, we planted 2 avocado trees. It took a couple of years to grow, but now every year we get a lot of avocados. Not the best avocado you will eat, but definetely edible.
There's 2 types when faced with the same issue. "That will take years to make anything and you'll never know if it's good" A. " It's not worth it" B. " Then I've got no time to waste"
My sister in CA planted an avocado seed in-ground more than 10 years ago and the tree has been a proliferous producer of good-tasting avocados for so many yrs now. It must have been luck. I have two little avocado trees growing fr my old compost corner now and it's just fun to see them grow. I guess I will have to kill them soon bc I don't want to invest in anything with no guarantee of reward. PS. lol, I changed my mind. I am in the Sonoran Desert and it is a challenge to grow avocados here. I think I will let the little trees grow to see if they will make it to maturity. They are growing under the protection of a mesquite tree so I want to see how they can get acclimated and develop into mature trees.
@@Samu2010lolcats Thanks! :) I have easily grown plenty of avocado trees in Northern and Southern CA but it's a challenge here in the desert. You're right about the water bc they are tropical trees but it's also important to build a microclimate for it to flourish in the desert.
My grampa planted avocado from seed years ago and we still enjoy avocados from that same seed. Its edible, its just it takes years for it to fruit. Just start planting and youll enjoy the fruit of your labor❤
I got one beautiful avocado tree from seed. Then I found out that flowers male and female blooms at the different time of the day, so I polinated them manually. Then fruits came, very small though. But unfortunately this year it was very hot and the tree couldn't survive.
Always gets me about these naysayers who claim you won’t get edible fruit from a seed you start. Given you don’t know how close the fruit be to the parent tree but you might get a good surprise.
He is lying that most avocado trees produced inedible fruit. I am from Jamaica, and 90% of avocado trees on the island are grown from seeds. All the avocados that i have eaten in Jamaica, are way more tastier than hass. So they may take a lot longer to give fruit, and you may not get hass from planting hass seeds, but you could plant other avocado seeds and get very good avocados.
Yes, it is almost certain that a tree will produce fruit that is different from the one that surrounded the seed. But there is a good chance that difference isn't worse. There is way to many people who are only interested in mass propagating a single variety, which is an oxymoron btw.
@@patrickkeller2193 Exactly. If you plant these random seeds, you can get random results. However a lime will still most likely be a lime for example and most likely it won't be all that different from the parent trees if the parent trees were both similar. And yes, sometimes you can hit the jackpot and get really good odd-ball varieties with new slightly unusual but pleasant flavor combinations. The avocados grown from a seed might no longer be optimized for commercial orchards or transport to the other side of the planet but they might be very good and tasty in your home kitchen!
@@iloveprivacy8167 Hass avacados are a hybrid, a cross between two true cultivars. It may be better tasting than either of its parents, but its offspring will have a huge, chaotic variety of traits, many of which will not be desirable. The people who made the hybrid simply clone it when they want more plants. The same is generally true for all modern hybrids, from citrus and apple trees, to tomatoes and pumpkins. If you want to reliably grow something from seed, make sure the seed is from a true line of cultivars.
Pandas right, avocados for example can be grown from seed, and the fruit will be edible, it's just that the odds of them being edible and the way people like them are low, but still, never zero...
@@WhiteJadeTiger98 And grafted root stock for hardiness doesn't affect the flavor of anything. Seeds come from the top of the plant. So you are getting the high flavor genetics. Just needs a proper climate and nematode control to make up for the lack of root graft. Note: F1 hybrids are a different matter. But the video never mentions them.
@@andypanda4756 True, dude talks like selective breeding hasn't been thought of by anyone, anywhere, or at any time ever. He literally admits after saying over and over again that if an avocado seed is germinated that the tree won't produce avocados, but that it will produce fruit, and that they just simply wouldn't be edible (Honestly, what's it gonna produce, choke cherries?...) as though he thinks avocados that aren't specifically how he's used to them being aren't even fruit let alone avocados... Then he admits that a germinated avocado seed has approximately a 1/10,000 chance of growing into a tree that would produce edible fruit that's of decent quality. My maternal aunt (maternal uncle's wife) actually grew two avocados trees from seed, both produced fruit, and the fruits of both trees were in fact edible... Another thing worth mentioning... If you were to take two avocado trees that produce high quality avocados, cross pollinate them, and grow out the seeds, then continue only breeding the best trees with the best trees, sibling to sibling each generation, eventually that 1/10,000 would become more like 1/1,000; 1/100; 1/10, until eventually everything will breed true.
💯 agreed. Growing avocado from seed can grow nice and delicious fruit but the main reason people especially farmers dont grow them from seed is simple. Tree's usually take longer and grow much larger. The chances of having the same type,shape and variety is super slim too. Wait up to 3 to five years to get the fruit tree that is wanted is a big gamble.
@@surfninjafishing8297 it may be a downside to some but ive always loved the mystery, its definitely something you should know if you want to grow them though, its just that the video flat out lies.
@@DanBeech-ht7sw The misinformation is that you'll get inedible fruits from seed grown trees. Even if the tree is not 100% true to the store bought fruit it'll still be edible and delicious most of the time.
@@Samu2010lolcats he's perhaps used a bit of hyperbole in saying "inedible " In the same way, the vast majority of apples grown from seed are not of a quality you would compare with any commercial variety. That's the point he was trying to get across, and it's a pity people are being over literal and pedantic.
I totally understand the thing with time but it is so fun to see the little tiny bits of leaves coming out of the seeds!!! They are just like babies!!! They are sooooo cute!!! 😍
i did. thumbnail lied about seeds not producing trees, he also lied about them not producing edible fruits most of the time. whats up with defending misinformation?
Actually a few of the popular varieties of Avocado were taken from trees started in peoples back yards in San Diego County. When the Panama Canal opened people taking cruises through the canal ate guacamole, fell in love with it and brought seeds home to plant out. Not only did that bring in a lot of genetic diversity for flavor, it also produced some trees that had more cold tolerance. Some crossed with seedlings of the Mexican types bringing in even more cold tolerance into the gene pool. Don’t be a Debbie Downer. There is nothing wrong with people enjoying the process of growing trees from seeds. If the fruit doesn’t turn out to be a winner you can always top work them with whatever varieties you want. I have a very productive Pinkerton Avocado that originated as a seedling in a Hass grove in Oxnard Ca. If your point is only that a Hass seed will give a tree with different genetics than its mother tree than yes you are correct.
he's completely wrong about avocado too. They aren't true to seed, but 95% of them taste good when grown. Apples on the other hand have much worse chance because they have crab apples.
All solid advice, I'd like to add my 2c tho. Having grown up on a subsistence farm and still actively garden now. Almost 2/3rds of my crops are heritage seeds. As in, passed down from my Gparents, thru my parents, and now onto me. Some of the crops we have have drifted from original source, both good and bad ways. The key is to have many sources of seed banks, in our case our whole family. If i have a bad tasting garlic harvest, i send out notice and my brother sends seeds. We mix the blood so to say, to keep the genetics strong. Every year I eat my crops i love the idea that this exact same plant (tho grandchild of x amount of times) kept my gparents alive during the first great depression, my parents during the Regan years, and myself now. I intend to pass this down to my kids and hope to see these seeds feed my grandkids one day. Ofc each house seed bank has some changes in it too. I got alot of cool newer style tomato's and stuff that my brothers dont and vice versa. The original bank my gparents had was some odd 25 different plants. I got over 75 in my vault at this time.. i may or may not be a homesteading nut :p
@@christopherrenn8137 First, congratulations on saving heirloom seeds from your family. People like you are responsible for food and genetic resilience for the planets future. The trick with heirloom seeds is that they also evolve from domestication. Your ancestors had different conditions and tastes so they picked and chose what they thought was best. It is your choice now and what is important is that when you choose your next crops seeds you have to choose as many as you can to keep the seeds from inbreeding. Choose as many qualities from as many plants you can and this will broaden your gene bank even if they all came from the same original parents. Through micro organisms and by climate you will get mutations. Mutations are very important because they are the reason we can get new genes in a closed planet. Without them we would be inbreeding ourselves. If a plant shows signs of mutation and the mutation is positive add it to the pool. Don’t be afraid of new traits just continue growing and choosing what is best and make sure to choose from as many plants as possible to minimize inbreeding.
@@Ckawauchi35 The earth was a mess before and after Industriation (spelling?) of crop growing. It's we the people that need to take small steps to change the over all picture of how we live as a whole. :D Personally i would like to see libraries be charged with also indexing public access of seeds. That would be cool.
@@christopherrenn8137 That is a great idea! I think the functions of libraries should be expanded would do a lot of good for the communities around the libraries (not that they aren't already a great boon to their local communities).
No, its not "propaganda". avocados are like apples, they don't breed true. You'll get something, like apples grown from seed, it may or may not be enjoyable to eat.
While hass avocado trees grown from seed won't produce avocados that are identical to hass, they will be very similar and will be edible. I grew a hass avocado tree from seed and it is very similar to hass, but the fruit has a little bigger pits, and it is not quite as good as a hass, but definitely edible, and if making guacamole can't even tell the difference between it and a hass.
for strawberries, get a variety of everberrying plant (just one) and throw it in a large pot. it'll throw out runners that you can either individually pot or just firmly push into the soil in the pot and you'll end up with 10+ plants at the end of the season. its how i started a large strawberry patch.
I knew a lady who grew quite a few avocados from seed and seemed happy with the harvest. The result weren't Haas(sp?) but I think it is a safe assumption that people liked avocados for thousands of years before anyone ever heard of that brand. (Perhaps Mayans(??) did graft their favorite trees, I don't know.) She also grew from supermarket hybrid tomatoes. They also weren't true to type but in a few generations she had tomato plants that did grow true to type, her type, meaning she liked the taste and they were well suited to the local environment. I'll admit they were a little different as you almost had to crack them like eggs the skin was so thick and tough, but that is because she successfully selected for insect resistance in an area with severe insect problems. I don't have a major issue with hybrids or clones, but as far as I can tell "not true to type" doesn't mean a citrus tree that grows potatoes, they just won't have exactly the same taste and other characteristics as the mother plant. If you have time and room for a few duds, it is fun to see what you get. Just think how boring it would be if all your children were the same. Some are better slow roasted and others grilled on the barbie so family mealtime doesn't get repetitive. j/k.
the reson they graft is because other type of citrus or avo are hardier. if you grow it from seed you will get the avocado. it just may not produce as many fruit. so from a industrial farm point of view its best to graft.
My first asparagus is 15 years from seed just time and effort no money spent and now I have a free supply ❤❤❤ I've also bought seedlings from nursery all died except only just managed to get one to survive to 3 years as it's a purple variety I have learnt so much knowledge over years so I keep my asparagus from nursery potted up first few years then plant in garden once strong so it can be protected in summer and winter while smaller 😊 it's the satisfying feeling when you grow from seed so if you have patience you can definitely do asparagus from seeds
I started two Avocado trees from seed. Both produced good fruit, but only one produces fruit reliably. That one is enough to take care of the avocado needs for not only my family, but also a family of (we think) opossums for for about 5 months out of every year. It took nearly ten years for the trees to produce fruit.
I for the first time got a "Potato Tomato" (aka berry) and intend to plant the seeds. The most astonishing thing I learned while researching how to grow potatoes from seed is that they will not be the same as the plant they came from, which is a bit of a let down because it came from a fancy purple variety of waxy potato. But I am looking forward to seeing what grows from these seeds, if anything.
Do you mean a pomato? Because those can only be made via splicing. Seeds from the tomato will only make tomatoes (and if hybridized, may not grow true to its parent plant)
@@Drosenv so I just googled what a Pomato is. I'm absolutely not talking about one of those. I'm talking about an actual potato berry. Do not eat, it will delete you in a very unpleasant way. Not every plant will produce one so it's a bit of an occasion for the grower when one does appear. Out of my 40 potato plants I got only one berry. That should put into context the level of excitement for one.
As someone with a lot of avocados on their own roots, only one produces fruits as disappointing as Haas, so I'm having to disagree on point 1; even if your tree doesn't produce good fruits (and the first couple of years of fruiting are not always indicative), you can always bud a better variety onto your established tree once you've found that out. But if you are short of space or time, and very committed to a particular variety (e.g. you like to cook your avo, so Haas is the most reliable), then I would agree that buying a grafted sapling is a quicker way to get a reliable product. Just not always so interesting. Rough lemon (Citrus x jambhiri) are a stable form and usually true to seed; you will also usually get a mandarin-type fruit from a mandarin seed, a cumquat from a cumquat, a lime from a lime, calamondin from calamondin, a pomelo-type from a pomelo, and so on. They will not usually be the exact cultivar (e.g. - you would probably get a navel orange, but not a caracara, from a caracara seed), but the last time someone got a truly inedible citrus cultivar from planting a seed, the grapefruit was invented (hybrid between Pomelo and sweet orange). Edit to add - additionally, mexican lime, citron and pomelo are at least occasionally grown from rooted cuttings; trifoliate orange and rough lemon are usually grown from seed, not grafted. Grafted trees will usually fruit sooner, though.
You can grow onion from seed in one season, in fact, you want harvest it because next year it will just flower. You've never grown an onion and are giving bad advice about it. Don't do that.
I’ve grown avocados from pits multiple times. It takes a crazy amount of patience (sometimes 3 months before you even know if it’s going to grow or if it’s dead). I can’t say it produces anything, but it makes an interesting houseplant.
I grew my first lemon tree from seed and I was so excited! It already grew four sets of leaves and all I am honestly thinking…. How do I fail at carrots but can grew a freaking tree?
Came to say this about avocado seedlings. I have personally grown many to fruit and have never had a bad tasting fruit. Usually they have a larger seed but are sometimes tastier than comerical verities
Artichoke, assume you mean globe, not root (Jerusalem) artichokes? I'm at 45°N, allow plants to seed after 3rd year, usually get 1-5 plants pop up as "weeds", choosing a couple to keep. Not reliable, no new seedlings this year, as far as I can see in the mini-jungle of my backyard.
My grandmother and myself have both grown full on avocado trees that have all become real trees with real full blown super tasty avocados better than from the store. You just have to start it with decent water, not chemical filled tap water.
I started an avocado seed I removed from an avocado 20 something years ago. I've been eating the avocados for many years. The tree produces well and the fruit is good. Not sure why my experience is different from what you describe.
It's the same problem as with apples. You can grow apple trees from seeds, but you won't get the SAME kind of apple, because it's a mix from two different trees, and you have no clue what you'll get. BUT, you still get a tree. So, if you just want the tree, that's perfectly fine. If you want the fruit, you gotta be really lucky. :P
Growing an avocado from seed is an adventure, an experiment in growing for so many and delightful when you have your own little tree in a pot. I have a 9 year old avocado seedling 15 ft tall , planted in the ground and is a beautiful shade tree that I really treasure. Fruit isn't the only goal for a tree.
I'm thinking someone doesn't know the difference between fruit and veg. Also, bought asparagus crowns are 1yr old, so the difference to sown seed ones is a year. You can buy a packet of 150 seeds for £$2.50, you couldn't buy one crown for that.
Just because its not true to seed dosnt mean you cant grow it , every strain started from seed at some point the easiest method is start from seed and graft onto a mature tree and see the fruit it produces
Well I wonder what I have been feeding the family the last few years from my avocado ,haha ( trees sprouted from where I put household compost ) .The largest tree gave me ( and the neighbours ) about 200 last season .Currently I have about 5 trees happily producing from my old compost heaps .
In many climates an Avocado tree won't last the winter and it won't grow fruit for many years. BUT the leaves are very beneficial. Avocado leaves just so happen to be high in quercetin. These incredible leaves are full of minerals like immune-boosting zinc, bone-strengthening calcium, and magnesium and potassium. This helps promote a healthy heart by enhancing blood circulation, lowering blood pressure, and reducing hypertension. So now I grow it for the leaves alone as I have not seen Avocado Tea in the shops.
@@jevans1805 I think you just make a Tea from them. I must admit, I have a 1 meter tree growing but have not tried it yet. Not sure if you use the young leaves or old leaves or if it even matters.
Thx for this. I accidentally started growing an avocado seed from some compost in my greenhouse. That was 2 years ago and it's continued to grow. I appreciate the info you shared here so now I know not to get my expectations on the resulting fruit too high (unless I win that avocado lottery!)
I don't eat asparagus, but I didn't realize you need to be SUPER patient with it for best result. Also, I just planted strawberry seeds a few days ago, it's nice to know they're going to take over my garden slowly 😂
You can grow a lime tree from lime seeds. It just takes 10years+ before the tree bears fruit. I found this out the hard way. 😅. Took 12 years but now my lime tree produces about 300 limes each year.
My parents have an avocado tree grown from a seed. It has been giving avocado's the last 2 years. The thing people don't know is, if it's grown from seed, it's not self pollinating, that's why often you don't see fruit, if there isn't another avocado tree nearby.
I used to have problems starting strawberries. What I do is soak the soil, have a heat mat and grow light. Sprinkle the seeds on the surface of the soil and then cover with an opaque plastic until they start sprouting. Make sure they don't dry out
While I agree with most of these, growing citrus from seed is very common, just often used to create root stock. Many citrus will produce nearly true to type fruits if not cross polinated and who doesn't love to try a new variety.
Here in Northern climates, everyone knows that you don't get apples from trees grown from seed. We still let them grow because animals eat them, but for the garden you need to graft a good variety onto the root stock.
The issue with avocado and the complex genetics that make them taste good, also applies with apples. Apples almost never produce good fruit from seed, almost all apple trees that make good fruit are grafts.
For fruit trees, commercial fruit is generally grown from grafts. The root stock that it is grafted to is selected for hardiness rather than the fruit. So if you plant the seeds you don’t know what the fruit will be like. It may be small, or tough, or have strange flavors. But it may be edible it might even be good, just not up to commercial standards for some reason.
The title isn't about gardening, It's dont do this if you want fast and good veggies/fruits.. I let garlic/unions seed just plant so much you just harvest part and let some get mature, more seeds / beter seeds and strong veggies than if buy. The lemon is one most people dont dare from seed only with enough space to forget
So I was missing the suburbs life, and there's a lawn nearby with (presumably decorative) strawberries, and some runners extend into the pavement. Small trampled leaves, rootless, looking horrible. But they were free. So I tore away a bunch of those and soaked in water and planted them and like a third of them survived. Going to plant them on the bare lawn outside my apartment complex.
I disagree that you cant grow good food producing fruits/veg from saved seed,i live in London,and have seen a 20+ year avacado tree in south london growing happily in a sheltered sunny spot,with fruit on it,i cant vouch for its taste,but my point is dont put people off from enjoying growing plants from pips/seeds,its all about the pleasure it gives adults and children wtching things grow;🤔😺
Total bs. About avocado. I have grown avocado from seed most of my life and the fruit has been better than most store bought avocados. Never tried Hass because it’s too small and I am in the tropics. We have better bigger avocados here. Have grown many varieties of citrus too. What he says about seeds from grafted trees and hybrids not growing the same fruit is true. The probability that they are inedible is not so high. I have never come across an inedible avocado.
For the first example, apples are actually the same way. You will get edible fruit, but apple trees don't do inbreeding, so the one thing you know you can't possibly get from the tree you grow will be the same kind of apple as the seed you planted. Also, a lot of newer orchards are starting to use dedicated pollinating trees. They're scrawny little things that don't take up much space and produce a bajillion flowers and sad, mealy little apples, so if you try planting grocery store apples you'll probably be disappointed by the results.
It's not that hass seeds will produce inedible fruits, it's that 90% of them produce unmarketable fruit. The seeds are too large, or they take too long to ripen, or their ripeness window is too short. These are still perfectly edible.
2:42 I am currently staying on a property North of Brisbane. There are 4 Avocado trees amongst other fruit trees here. Anyway, two were plantstock according to the original owner. The other two grew from random, missed dropped fruit. The oldest seed tree produces abundant fruit. However, the younger one has just put on its first flush of blooms. It'll be interesting to see what it produces. Oh, we also have a serious guava issue here, so I've been selectively cutting them and use the timber for walking/hiking sticks and other woodworking stuff. Subbed. Cheers mate.
7:15 We've got plenty of wild raspberries up here if you want some. Nasty thorny buggers they are. But taste great of the vine/runner, or in fruit salads.
Ahh! Ok, you mean the avocado seed will not produce true to type. I had my rant fingers ready to type.😊 I managed to grow a decent avocado that fruited well from a seed. Small but tasty fruit. I guess I won the plant lottery. All the rest, I agree with you 100% Nice video. Cheers! Oh, and subscribed.
The lottery meme is a joke, same for apples and to a large extent citrus. There is some truths buried in there but if only 1 in 10k were edible these plants would be extinct
Stop spreading misinformation, plenty of people have planted avocados from seed and have gotten perfectly delicious edible fruit. Now if you want to promote grafted varieties then sure there pros to that as well. But to say most avocados grown from seed is inedible is just wrong.
@@Xenofan20 Yes, but I don't believe his claim that only one in ten thousand seeds go on to produce edible fruit. It's either false, he has a totally different definition of edible than I do, or I have some extremely lucky friends and family.
it makes fruit, that are edible, they just will not taste like the origin fruit, it's going to be a unique, one of a kind flavor only your tree will make, and I also heard that the first time the fruits appear, it will not taste the best, better to wait for the second or third fruiting season for the tree, it can also take years to even get to the fruit stage, like as much as 7+ years, although if you get lucky it could happen like 5 years in, every tree is different when not from a graft and it is never 100% predictable, you can just get general assumptions, like it may grow to fruiting within 5-10 years but that's a maybe, ive heard stories of some taking EVEN longer... So it is really just a waiting game, and so just enjoy your little baby avocado tree and enjoy the journey, maybe someday you will get a unique little special treat. :)
People grow avocados from seed in the tropical region all the time, and the fruit is almost always edible. The challenge is what kind of avocado you get. If your seed comes from a tree in your yard, you have a good chance of getting fruit that tastes good. I can't guarantee you will get a Haas from a Haas seed, though 😂.
Reed avocados and many others come up true to type, they may take longer to produce fruit but they grow well and produce plenty of quality fruit, the big thing for avocados is you must have deep well draind soil, mind you hass produce weak seedlings, but you can germinate a reed seedling and graft hass on to it. We had plenty of Avos on the farm when I was a young fella and most were seedlings and were good producers
The thing with citrus is that they hydridise (or otherwise change) if you so much as look at them funny. Starting them from seed is fine, you just might not end up with fruit that looks and tastes precisely like the parent fruit.
I like crabapples. Apples don't breed true -if you plant seeds you'll get some that taste extra-tart or extra-bland, or have a funny texture, or are small and lumpy - but I like the variety, and once in every twenty or so you get a really good apple tree from seed.
Raspberries are the easiest to grow. Buy one cane and the birds eating the odd raspberry will seed them all over your garden when they poop the seeds out. I started with one cane and within 5 years had about 15 canes (now about 50!). I occasionally have to cut the entire jungle back in the autumn and just leave the new seedlings. And I have to pull up the ones seeded in the lawn. The seedlings only fruit in the second year but once they are etablished they grow like crazy. Definitely the easiest fruit to grow.
The reason they don’t sell avacado seeds is it takes years to grow, grafting is a way to greatly speed up the time to production and guarantees the outcome. Most apple varieties were discovered from wild trees. Modern garlic from the store doesn’t have seeds, wild garlic is different varieties.
I had the exact opposite problem at the house I just moved out of. The old avocado tree my mother grew from seed tasted good but the seed was huge and the avocado small so not that much actual meat to it.
You are very wrong about some Citrus in certain areas. Here in South Texas, I have found Mandarin oranges (C. reticulata) and grapefruit (C. paradise) to actually grow better on their own rootstocks than on Poncirus trifoliata (the usual graft stock), which also grows here. Oranges grow here about the same, grafted or not.The grapefruits and oranges, of course, do not come back "true to type" since varieties are grafted, but true Mandarin oranges produce only "selfs" (maternals) (though the pollen can cross with other species, any pollen applied to the fruit on a Mandarin orange tree will result in seed making seedlings genetically the same as the parent tree).
Funnily enough I struggle with getting most seeds to start, aside from the easy ones like peas and beans, but all my strawberry seeds are growing like wild.
Grown strawberries from seed twice, but it does take an extra year to get fruit. They can run in year one also. I’ve also grown asparagus from seed, means an extra year but huge savings for my pocket. I have a citrus from a ‘seedless’ clementine. It was more of a joke. It’s not flowered in four years so I am not sure how the final taste will be. Also started artichokes this year from seed. I just enjoy growing anything from seed 😂
I think we need to take the time to do the seeding for avocado and apples, as well as bananas. Ling term though. We need to get new strains going which people like. We have far too mane cloned/grafted tree crops. So, at home scale, do a bit of both. Grafted plant, and seeded experiment for the long term. We lost a strain of bananas in mid 1900's because of over grafting.
Average avacado takes 7 years before they have fruit. we have some that will bear fruit when my little cuz turns 6. and the grafting is like many walnut farmers do, to give the plant better roots for strength and water collection in environments and handling the harvesting.
When you said and everyone knows you can't grow citrus from seeds I was like... ??? 😅 I am currently growing two lemon trees from seeds! Do you recommend grafting or propagating? I also have a meyer lemon that I got from bunnings that I could take a cutting from and put in the ground. Where do you get a root stock from or can I use the little lemon tree I grew from seed and graft onto it?
@@MaddieLullaby I'm so glad my video actually helped someone! In Australia the citrus rootstock we use is called Flying Dragon... And you can't really buy it from anywhere. They're also notoriously fiddley to germinate. Once I find a place to buy them cheap I'm going to make & give away so many citrus trees though 🍋 I'm really sorry but those citrus you've started from seed are pretty much useless in terms of getting fruit from them 😞 You ~can~ graft onto them but you'll have lots of issues with them once growing. It won't be worth it Unlike herbs you can't take a cutting from the meyer lemon and have it sprout root, you'll run into issues with how the tree grows, you'd need to graft that cutting onto a Flying Dragon rootstock... So for citrus you're better off just buying nursery stock. For citrus in particular I advise going to a local nursery and buying advanced (already fruiting) stock. The price difference is about $50, but it saves you about 3 years compared to the tiny ones you get from Bunnings. (And advanced stock form Bunnings is criminally expensive)
@@CulinaryGarden1 what kind of issues you would have when using a citrus tree grown from seeds if you graft onto them? Are they weaker? I thought when using a graft from a fruiting tree I should have no problem… 😐
@@CulinaryGarden1 Thanks so much for taking the time to respond with so much info! Damnnnn that sucks but it’s better I know now 😅 I blame those viral tiktok videos on growing lemon seeds! That’s right Bunnings is a bit expensive so I wanted a cheaper option but I’ll look into my local nurseries. I’ve recently gotten into gardening and your videos have been super helpful! Gardening has been a great way to occupy my time outside with my toddler haha. Thanks to you I have a bucket filled with weeds and water for some fertiliser ready to go 😂 and I’m going to be following along with the garden project! Looking forward to your future vids!!
What are You talking about i'm Nicaragua we always plant the speed and get good avocado especially i'm cost SIDE i'm Bluefields and Corn Island we get some good Butter avocado
Only two of those were vegetables. Garlic and asparagus. I started asparagus from seed easy enough. My list would be: Potatoes Garlic Rhubarb Yams Sunchokes
I laughed when you talked about your impatience with vegetable growth being so slow. Yeah, I hear ya. I used to plant radishes around the garden so I had a quick harvest of something while I waited for tomatoes etc to get their acts together.
Just one issue since you talked about onions and the class of plant they belong too. Yes, they have a two year life cycle. No, it doesn't take two years to harvest all the types of plants in this category because bunching (Spring) onions aren't grown for the bulbs, they're grown for the green part of the plant. Just felt that should be thrown in since the statement can cause confusion.
about avocados, in my city of origin many people have trees that are started from seed, but all of them are edible, just that they very a lot from size of seed to amount of flesh, os some of the trees produce a lot of fles, and some have giant seeds that are almost the size of the fruit, but you can eat all of em
Apples are another one you shouldn't start from seeds, for the same reason as avocado and citrus fruits. Also, I actually *do* recommend you start strawberries from seeds, if you want decently-sized berries. Those great, big berries you find in the stores actually aren't that much bigger because of genetic engineering. They're that much bigger because they have both male plants, and female plants. If all the plants you have are female, they'll grow berries just fine, but they'll be tiny, and the seeds on them will be non-viable, unable to start new plants due to essentially being the same as unfertilized eggs. This means that if you start a strawberry patch from fruit-bearing plants, you'll only ever have female plants. But if you start them from seeds, you have a chance of getting male plants. Sure, a garden patch with both male plants and female ones will take up twice the space for the same number of fruit-bearing plants, but with how much bigger the fruits will be, I'd say it's worth it.
