@@ZeldaCDI99 In the part where he tells the player about how his personality and false memories came from a real person who wasn't a synth like him, his exposed wires spark just a little too precisely. Mine don't do that.
Not the current, obvious Nick Valentine. The original 'human' Nick Valentine from before the bombs fell. Why would the institute install the perfect brain scan of a random pre-war cop? And how would a brain scan for a pre war medical procedure perfectly integrate into a supposedly brand new post war tech? OG Nick was also a synth.
There’s a theory that Nate could be the Hero of Anchorage. Which would explain his visit to the Veterans Hall(possibly receiving the Medal of Honor). Love that fan theory. Actually I think it’s true. It would explain why he’s so skilled on the battlefield. Plus, his experience fighting the stealth dragoon soldiers, would give him an edge against the Coursers.
The Dogmeat theory is extremely likely, if for no other reason than the fact that there is only one known dog breeder in the commonwealth. Dogmeat is in great health, has no scars, is the only know dog of his breed, and the dog breeder does not immediately recognize him when you meet him out in the wastes. You know that clingy s.o.b. remembers every dog he's ever had sired.
@@lostbutfreesoulI always feel like Somebody's watching me And I have no privacy I always feel like somebody's watching me, Tell me, is it just a dream?
Much like Deacon’s little shack by 111, there’s a chair next to a tire that has an ashtray with a cigar in it overlooking the Red Rocket and the radio has the classic station on it. My head canon has Kellogg watching you meet Dogmeat 2:17
Joel Burgess, one of the devs for FO4, has said Dogmeat is "trapped out of time" and "does not belong in 2287” so I always assumed he had been frozen or something like the sole survivor. But idk
Would have been handy if 111 had some terminal entry with a throwaway reference to animal subjects. That'd explain why he looks like Pre-War Dog. And no doubt a Vault-Tec animal being so intelligent and trained wouldn't he the weirdest thing.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel Tbf, in the tv show *(spoilers)* ...cryo sleep seem to be a completely safe procedure/tool/whatever youd call it, lol, which further strengthens this theory that animals, especially *Fo4 dogmeat,* couldve been prewar test subjects etc.
@@The_Lucent_Archangelno dogs were in vault 111. I recently played through the beginning again and in a terminal in vault 111 they do have entries of the residents supposed to be entered into cryo chambers. One entry mentions a family with a dog and it says something like Spike (Do Not Allow)
You forgot with Dogmeat, another factor is how he looks. No other canine looks good and healthy yet Dogmeat looks like he was cryofroze too in comparrison to all orher dogs. NV had cyberdogs. The institute was known for entering other regions so there's little doubt they wouldn't have found them. Plus the gorillas in the institute kind of play into messing with nature.
I mean, cats and birds (minus seagulls) seem to be pretty healthy. And they appear in places like Appalachia and New Vegas (the birds), so you can't just say "those creatures were synths too".
I think both Dogmeat and the Sole Survivor are synths. I also don't think Father is actually Shaun, he's just some guy. Mainly because this would make the game more interesting, not because it's actually likely.
My theory is that Dogmeat has psyker abilities. Perhaps a type of precog ability like Mama Murphy. Someone does hint that Dogmeat appear at the right time, right place when needed.
I believe a former Bethesda employee has come out and said that Fallout 3 was supposed to take place 50 years after the bombs fell. But they changed it to 200 years. That’s why there isn’t much work to get DC back on its feet.
There's a few things that don't track there. If aspects like Harold and such were always planned, 50 years would have put him still being out West and getting mutated at Mariposa. If he just up and went East then he wouldn't be there to meet the Vault Dweller and Chosen One in Fallouts 1 and 2. I think it just makes more sense to ascribe the lack of something akin to the NCR out East to other factors not explained yet. In light of 76, maybe something yet to occur in that game will help explain why the Capital Wasteland is behind by the time 3 takes place. It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility, especially considering the entry on Vault 76 that you can find in 3 is redacted.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel”if aspects like Harold and such were always planned…” That’s a big if. Let’s be honest, Harold is pretty much an Easter Egg in 3.
In my own personal opinion, 3 is intended to take place no more than thirty years after the Great War, with “Dad” being a student/graduate of a prewar university… Maybe even the CIT…
@@The_Lucent_Archangel Maybe so. But what if Harold started as an Easter Egg, and then the developers decided to go all in with him. It would mess with their original timeline, so the devs pushed it back 150 more years to make it make sense. A few quick adaptations and changing of a few words of dialect, and it’s covered. DC would still be in ruins, since there isn’t any heavy machinery to move the rubble.
One funny thing about the Dogmeat theory: some people accidentally let slip that they’ve never heard of a dog whistle before, because when Nick uses one they assume it’s some kind of special Synth radio device
@@helmutkok7833 He's supposed to imitate a human in all aspects. Obviously, the design has a number of flaws in terms of passability, but mechanically, they nailed it. Installing a couple of airbags as lungs would be a lot easier than functioning fingers
The range of most, if not all, dog whistles barely hits a mile. It's certainly less of a stretch to say dog meat is a synth than it is that the same dog perched up at red rocket near sanctuary was wandering the mutant infested streets of downtown Boston And that's ignoring the fact that Nick, you know, summons him in a house in the middle of a bustling town
Rip the ghoul serum lore. Rip to the nuka dlc, The show rewrites continuity and the fallout 4 "free content" that we recently got fixed the continuity from the show and the game. Lazy, and disrespectful to the current lore. All those ghouls that we talked to that knew there was no cure, no longer hold there weight anymore.
"That's only a local thing" I'll bet that's gonna be the excuse for it, so those moments still hold weight. They'll just say "oh, well the cure isn't known on that side of USA" or "it's only in New California territory" something to that effect, so they don't have to rewrite anymore than they already decided to. Or need to, for that matter
About Liberty Prime. Keep in mind the same people that ignored LP for almost 200 years are the same people that completely ignored Metro Men. How can something that has appeared in just about every Fallout game in way or another be completely ignored by both prewar civilization(there are ZERO references to them in any magazine or computer) and by post war people who are very curious about the past(Piper and especially Brotherhood of Steel).
The Dogmeat theory has one other clue that cements it as true in my head. You find him at the Red Rocket Gas Station just outside Sanctuary. Inside that very station, is the only radio in the entire commonwealth, naturally tuned to the classical radio station. The very same station that the Institute uses for the molecular relay and sending coded messages to their agents in the field.
In the pre-war opening you can find a dog dish on the floor. When activating it the MC says something about their dog having gone missing. What's the first thing you find outside of Sanctuary? A dog. What was the point of adding the pre-war dog dish and story about a missing dog?
maybe to subtly say how the main character is used to a dog and why dogmeat would come up to him/her instead of any other person, in FO 3 you found dogmeat after the his master is killed which makes it reasonable why he will follow him, but in FO 4 he is just there after who know how long
Another note regarding Lanius not being a real, single person: his last legate failed him and he had to make a statement of him. I don't know that Caesar would want to actually share power again with a new legate, but would definitely still want a potential scapegoat if their Mojave campaign continues to undersucceed.
When some one can say that horrific violent tendancies due to prolonged lead exposure is mundane, and not be incorrect, you know the world has gone to hell
Another piece of evidence for the FO3 theory is that Moira Brown asks you to help with her survival guide. Why is someone just now deciding to make a survival book? Why on Earth would she think a place like the super duper mart would still have supplies after 200 yrs of scavenging? At least in FO4 they can blame the lack of regional progress on deliberate sabotaging by the institute. Imo, the FO3 timeline theory is just a fact
Moira is a bit out of it in a lot of ways, but her assumption that some areas may be unlooted due to nearby danger is kinda a core element of the games lol. I'm sure other people have pitched making survival guides, but few would be in the position to write it, pay someone to do the exploration for it, and then be able to actually produce copies (even an old timey printing press could be a hard bit of tech to put together and maintain, and having someone copying it by hand isn't exactly ideal). Most of the timeline stuff for 3 ends up making sense. I'm pretty sure the Pentagon had automated defences before the BOS arrived, and I always imagined that Lamplight gets food and meds donated by those who grew up there or who left their kids there. The Super Mutants made rebuilding hard, and not only did the Capitol not have the key heroes earlier in the timeline that California did (VD and Chosen One), but the only GECK in the region was in the very Vault that was the source of the overrunning super mutants.
Synth dog eat always made sense to me. You mean to tell me out of nowhere, hundreds of years after nuclear Armageddon, a rad free, pure bred German Shephard just suddenly pops up?
The lead theory is probable, but I think it’s much simpler than that… I have cancer and nerve damage and I know for a fact pain and sickness makes you cranky. Basically everyone in the wasteland has cancer and various illnesses and infections at all times, they’re uneducated, malnourished, and probably high on whatever they can get to dull the pain and try to feel better. You’d expect those kinds of people to be violent, unpredictable, selfish and stupid. Lead probably plays a very small role in how those bandits and raiders act, it’s just miserable people having a horrible life and taking it out on anyone and everyone they see.
Fallout 3 being originally set earlier in the timeline would have been very interesting. We get that in Fallout 76, but having a more desolate wasteland with barely any civilization or resources would have been great to really sell the post apocalypse feel of the series.
one of the worst aspects of Fallout is the timeframes presented. Even with a suspension of disbelief and post apocalypse population decline, there shouldn't be a single can of Scram left and the countryside would be exploding with plant life. That level of desolation yet availability of materials and wooden structures still standing in comparatively good state lends itself to 10-20 years, not 200 years. The big hurdle for Bethesda that they copped out of by setting the timeline so far ahead, is having to spend more time writing the thoughts and behaviors of people that can still remember where everything is, what every appliance does, the phone numbers of their neighbors, still having all of their ingrained social behaviors and government propaganda etc etc. Fallout is a post-post apocalypse story with a world that somehow cant manage to get to the post-part.
@@Nope_handlesaretrash Yeah, Bethesda seemed to have completely missed that the country is supposed to have mostly recovered by the time the games take place. The Interplay games usually took place at a time when people had managed to solve their problems of basic subsistence, created organized societies, and were just starting to poke around in the ruins of the old world to find out what was there. If you look at every other major tragedy in human history, that's what happens. The tragedy happens, the survivors solve their immediate problems, and then the curiosity takes over and they start asking questions about what happened before. Medieval scholars, for example, were obsessed with the Roman empire, and finding out if there was anything they could learn from the Romans. Fallout was about the last step in that process. Then Bethesda came along and completely forgot about that
@@Nope_handlesaretrash My retcon theory (i do think the F3 map was made for 10 to 50 year setting) is that DC keeps getting nuked every now and then like how we can launch an ICBM what if per-war weapons in other parts of the world are being set off at random a computer resets; a scaver throws a switch; a repair bot powers on; and the old world reminds us it still is not fully dead.
@@filmandfirearms Sometimes recover. The Mayans for example didn't. There's also a little known theory that the areas that would become North and South America there were giant kingdoms like one would find in medieval Europe and Asia. However something bad happened like a pandemic or regional war or whatever that caused the whole thing to collapse. The survivors eventually become what are known as the Native Americans/Indians and their individual tribes. The closest European explorers got to finding anything remotely looking like a traditional empire or country were the Aztecs and Incas.
@@chadharger9323 If they don't recover, it's because they were replaced by another group. The Bethesda Fallout world is one where humanity doesn't even try to build back
@@theotheyoutubewatcherista Doesn't matter what they call themselves or what cliques they create. At the end of the day they are free XP that all die the same way.
What if Francine didn't really die, but became Miss Fortune, with Mark as the Mysterious Stranger? I still lean towards the Stranger being either a lightly ghoulified version of the human Nick Valentine, or, possibly, Gandalf.
I think Hank Maclean may be courier six, they both nuke the ncr. with the end of lonesome road you get to nuke the ncr which is similar to Hank Maclean. If this is true than that would give him going to new Vegas at the end of the tv show a whole different meaning
I’m usually not a fan theory backer but, the Legate Lanius one is something I’ve always wanted to be true. The idea that Lanius’ reputation is fueled by multiple tall tales works well for a group like the Legion.
One origin story has Lanius' face being disfigured. In game if you kill him and take his helmet his face doesn't even have a single scar but does have a bitchin handle bar moustache.
Bethesda games Timelines have always bugged me, it's like their world can't move forward, the TV show makes it worse by pulling the West Coast back into these scrappy towns instead of the High tech citys from Fallout 2
My problem is that the timeline is too thick with too much information after the Great War. There's actually too much information to make self-contained main plots for the games. Also Bethesda not only won't use the rest of the planet(like London), they won't bother with other locations that can be used at the same time other major events are happening. For example the Chosen One is starting the final assault against the Enclave. At the same time another Main Character in Dallas, TX just discovered a plot to completely nuke the planet again with the thought to completely wiping out humanity or whatever.
I think the Season 2 reveal will be that there was another war after Fallout NV. It's an annoying reset I've got to say but they needed something to keep the post apocalyptic aesthetic and it would make sense with the plot of New Vegas where the second battle of Hoover Dam was just a prelude to something bigger.
Dogmeat was Genetically Created by The Enclave. The Lead Theory makes Sense, cause I dont remember who says it, it might be Cait, but She said, “Whats up with the Raiders and Kids Toys?”
The FO3 theory is even more bolstered accidentally by FO76, which has East Coast BOS and Enclave already just a few decades after the big kaboom (which of course has been criticized for putting yet more BOS content in every FO when they dont necessarily need to be there logically).
I 100% believe the Fallout 3 timeline theory. It makes so much sense. I think 76 was them going back and giving that idea another shot after it didn't pan out in 3.
Red rocket that radio in the garage always stuck out to me because we learn in the story that the institute relay through the classical radio station and what’s playing on the radio
I think the Drivestation of the capital wasteland makes sense even 200 years later because Washington dc would have been a prime Target, to be honest im suprised it isnt more devestated , considering how many bombs would have targeted the city ...
Awesome video. I say no to lanius not being real for the simple fact that if you speechcraft him, he has the authority to call off the attack, and a mascot wouldn't have that kind of power.
I think the thing is, not even people in the Legion know about it not being true, some powerful people do sit on Lanius chair, one of them being the one we fight in NV, and he has all the authority that the legendary Legate would have because everyone believes in the tales and is not going to go against him.
One other hole I can see with Fallout 3 falling in the wrong place of the timeline is that we meet MacCready again in Fallout 4 as an adult. He's even a companion.
> _Liberty Prime would not have survived 200 in the Pentagon without being scavenged_ Then the Brotherhood Of Steel would never have discovered Liberty Prime. By the time BoS formed, Liberty Prime would have been found and taken (or taken apart).
Fingers crossed that after all these years, these theory’s are something new. And while writing this, I hear “dog meat is a synth”, instant like lol As soon as you leave the vault, you’re watched by Deacon. Dog meat is the perfect inversion of a spy, especially with crows being synths
On the fallout 3 theory, your dad being from outside the vault, being able to get you in, because he is a doctor (something you would maybe think the vault would want to train themselves and not some wastelander? An unexploded nuke that a rich person wants blown up (waits for you to show up) also wouldnt the tower be similar to lamp light? Like a retirement home for the rich, but in an apocolypse? Also couldnt that mean you could have been born before the war as well? Like you were born the day of or right after. Maybe your dad and mom had a spot but didnt make it cause of your birth? And thats why they needed the doctor (he was the doctor) which im sure the vault lore says overseer is whatever number (not the OG) but how long would someone keep that lie up, especially if you talked to someone who was outside?
I just think Dogmeat is meant to be your first, main or only companion so like other games, he's tough enough to stay with you, smart enough to actually help and dedicated to you and keeping you going and helping to guide your way (Lydia on 4 legs). I can do an entire playthrough with only Buddy (Dogmeat) :).
I like to think Lanius was real, but was an overhyped figure, who's deeds were greatly exaggerated in order to create the intimidating character you mentioned; one who could inspire the troops while making the enemy tremble in fear. Think Vasily Zaitsev and the battle of Stalingrad, or any Klingon telling the tale of his/her glorious battles. We know how his mask is supposed to cover a horribly disfigured face, but if you can get his mask off (depending on either glitches or console commands), his face is perfectly normal. (Or maybe the reason it's so difficult to remove the mask from his carcass is because the developer didn't bother to create a disfigured face, but I like to ignore that tiny detail)
The idea that Mark is the Mysterious Stranger is kind of impossible, considering the fact that the Mysterious Stranger appears in Fallout 76, well before he should have been alive.
Mine is that the Railroad does the memory wipes to protect themselves and no other reason. While they think this is helping the synth too it is erasing who they are. Many would think this is the same as death. I think there was a movie that had criminals memory wiped instead of executed for high crimes. Big also the Dogmeat one... the Amazon series already shows that dogmeat was part of an Enclave program and is is only what 5-10 years after Fallout 4. The program might have been going on for much longer and a few might have escaped over the years. They might have been sending them out with agents for a long time as they protected the... formula.
While lead could definitely be responsible, I think it comes down to human nature. You see it in mob situations. And, there is no true governing body in Fallout. Or legal system. So, unchecked and in a really bad situation, I think most people, regardless of how they feel now, would turn to violence to ensure their own survival. As far as 3s time-line goes, it makes sense that is off. Even if you factored in radiation causing lower intelligence, the wasteland should looked far better after 200 years. Even if progress moved half as slow as prewar, that's still the equivalent of 100 years of progress.
The Mark Theory could be true making him the First Succeful Super Human using the FEV, its like he became Cpt. America by surviving the Super Serum and the Others became the Master= the Leader and Harold a weak Hulk=failed Super Mutant.
With the Dogmeat theory about watching powerful players could he been trained by Decon? I would assume Decon keeps his connections to Dogmeat a secret thats why the Railroad doesn't say anything about the dog
The BoS and Enclave conflict in Fallout 3 would actually make *more* sense if it was a decade or less after the Great War, because that would imply that the newly formed Brotherhood would've gone on a rampage after the Enclave, which is the surviving remnants of the rat-king of elites that makes up the US shadow government. It would've been a much better game, and it would've prevented a few huge plot holes in Fallout 4 - namely, what the hell happened to the Brotherhood of Steel in only ten years?
Ohh, yeah id definitely buy any "substance poisoning" etc as a valid explanation for, well, most things tbh, lol. And definitely combined with radiation poisoning. Mysterious Mark is also an awesome theory tbh! However, is the Lanius really that much different from the player character and their accomplishments? He sounds like some sort of nemesis tbh. (edit: yeah, obv he *is* the nemesis, but only speaking of the feats here.)
Not to mention with the lead poisoning causing aggression and lowered iq, that could then be reflected in their children, cause children tend to mirror the behaviour of their parents
Another two big pieces of evidence for the Fallout 3 theory are Pinkerton's story about the Naval Research Institute remnants and the lady in Arefu who thinks she is living in a pre-war town
As much as I like the "Legate myth" theory, Fallout is not stranger to superhuman characters and scaryingly nuts characters. And the Fallout 3 timeline makes absolute sense to me.
lead idea i get but more like joker says when the chips are down these civilized people theyll eat each other. the apocalypse lets people show their true character
The Legate Lanius one makes no sense in my opinion when fallout is full of extraordinarily people like Frank Horrigan,Harrold the courier,Kellog and the ghoul and brain dude from point lookout or Oswald from nuka world with his magic teleporting. Why can Cesare and Joshua's stories of Lanius not be true? If Cesare found Lanius after throwing Joshua off the grand canyon it explains why Joshua has never heard of him. Also we fight him at the end of the 2nd battle for hoover dame and he's as brutal and tough as the legends make him out to be. What is that just a random legion centurion acting out a character? If so how is he able to put up such a fight against at that point a walking apocalypse known as courier 6?
The mysterious stranger theory is unfortunately entirely debunked by the fact that the mysterious stranger is in fallout: 76, unless he also somehow gained time travel powers as well
My personal one I developed after Dragon Ball Z. The Master isn't dead, just regaining biomass and technological mass. This is thanks to Cell, from Dragon Ball Z. Cell's ability to regenerate off of just one cell. But also hinges on the consumption of others. It's also the same power set and MO as the Master.
Dogmeat: Debunked. However, not fully, Dogmeat is special. What is it? We just dont know, but Dogmeat isnt a Synth. We know this for a couple reasons, Institute is set as an enemy and they dont have any files. This is important because this is where we learn crows, and many NPC are "spies". They dont know of Dogmeat... Lead: Yes, I agree it could have played a part, however, watch movie about what happened to NYC when they lost power for a long period of time. People started turning on each other. Same is happening in Fallout. Survival took over. Marc: Possible and Bethesda could make it so. If I go logically though. Unlikely. Legate Lanis isnt real: Debunked, Fallout: New Vegas debunks it in lore. You even fight him. Fallout 3 was suppose to happen earlier: Possible, because Bethesda decided to use some ideas from Fallout 3 that was never released. However, a more likely idea is Bethesda decided to make Fallout 3 like it should be. A post-nuke world. Remember, the reason they havent managed to rebuild is because the Mutants overrun DC. It wasnt until BOS came that anyone has any hope of survival there. They made survival more possible. Now, to be fair, Fallout 3 is the last true Fallout to the plot of Fallout. New Vegas is to empty, Fallout 4 is to settled and green, and Fallout 76 is all of Fallout 4 plus more. It was a change of how Bethesda saw Fallout. I admit, I never liked New Vegas and Fallout 76 because of all this. I shant give my opinion on Fallout 4, it just isnt a true Fallout plot-wise
See the part with Liberty Prime, i don't think it makes sense it would be easily accessed. A weapon like that i would keep under a lot of secuity lockdowns, not to mention physical lock downs... it could have taken 200 years worth of systems and structure degregation for anyone to even attempt to get at it.
Can you read? That article pictured tell you right there that the stats come from a university study published in an economic journal. The numbers literally *don't* come from internal company sources.
